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Marques Brownlee

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“They go away. You can make them go away, but that's a user thing. I kept thinking about Walt when I was reviewing because I was thinking, maybe it's me. Maybe it's me. And of course, it's never the consumer. It's never you. It's actually the tech. And that's, you know,”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's funny. There's a lot of times where I'm wearing the headset, and if you don't wear it the right way, it stops tracking your eyes and your hands. And I kept wanting to lead the review with you're wearing it wrong. Which I realized was going to be two inside baseball and wasn't going to fly with my audience. But right, you were holding it wrong with the iPhone 4, right? When they had the antenna issues. And I think just thinking about that, I'm not sure Steve Jobs would have allowed these sort of small bugs to be there.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think you would think it was very cool, but I'm not sure it's a product that would ship under his watch. I think it would either have waited until the glass is form factor was ready or was a little bit less overengineered.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that he would believe that it is an overengineered product that Apple took too long developing without a particular I think he would think it's a bit all over the place And they waited too long to bring something to market.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so that creates an issue there as well. They have a pretty deep bench. You know, there's been a lot of talk about Deirdre O'Brien, who's held so many roles over three decades of the company, head of retail. So she's another good option as well. I think Apple's probably going to go in a different direction.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I don't think it's going to be Jeff unless something happens to Tim or Tim unexpectedly steps down in the next few years. I don't think Jeff is the long-term successor if he becomes CEO. He's not going to be in the role more than three to five years. So I think that Apple and the board are going to try to think a little bit broader.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, that's not going to happen on this podcast. But Jeff Williams has been a shoe-in for quite a while. He's Tim Cook's Tim Cook. He is now in charge of the design team. He's in charge of health. He's in charge of the car. He's in charge of pretty much all the big stuff. He also has the Wall Street credibility and he has sort of that global stuff.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, not to push him out the door. You know, if you ask me this question two years ago, I probably would have said he was going to retire sooner rather than later. But at this point, I think he's probably going to remain at Apple closer to the end of the decade. I think I have a pretty good idea of who the successor is going to be. It's not someone that you mentioned. Obviously,”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's a combination of both of those things, which is that to create those next big categories that Mark was talking about, they have to have the trust of the users and their developer ecosystem. That is the only way they continue to make home run products. And so if they can't do the innovation on one end and then also bring along the developer community and the consumers who have been buying their devices for so many years, then what happens?”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not so worried about that. Have you seen Google and how it operates and its ability to execute? Yeah. They're not worried about that. I think their biggest risk. Is a combination of regulatory and hubris. They're not going to sell more iPhones. They sold all the iPhones that they're going to sell, and they're just going to turn them over into upgrade cycles now. So their sales are flatlined. And they're making all of their money charging attacks on every button you push on your phone. They've turned your phone into a shopping mall. And if regulatory decisions across the world break open their ability to collect that tax or their own hubris pushes developers away or to the web, something really bad happens to the financials of the company that doesn't let it go innovate and make the next platform. Now they got a lot of cash in the bank and they're, you know, Tim Cook is an excellent operator of this company. I don't think he's going to stumble into that risk. But the financial engine of the company is under attack right now because it's not selling more stuff. It's collecting more rent from the users. And I think that's a real problem.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, I think it's automotive for sure. I think if Apple misses out on the car and then Waymo and Google's efforts or Amazon and Zook's efforts gets consumerized, people jump into the Amazon or Google ecosystems. And I think that would be very, very bad news for Apple. So I think even though the car would probably be a money loser or contribute very little in terms of profitability, I think it's something they'll have to do. And so I think missing on that would be a big long-term risk.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Apple's biggest risk is missing on the next big category, another company winning on that category, Amazon, Google Meta, and then people leaving the Apple ecosystem to whatever new ecosystem is built around that next category.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. You look at the AI products that exist right now. They're a canon of C content. And social media does a really good job of filtering out the A plus content and showing it to you. But day to day, it's like a bunch of C++. And I think Apple needs to consistently deliver A+. Like, win, and I think that's what they want to do, and then to what Joanna was saying, what they've delivered in the past is Siri. So there's a real gap between what people expect Apple's sort of assistant-like products to do and what they can do and where Apple's bar for what they should do will be. And I think that is why this is the year of AI for them. Yeah.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is no chat GPT app. They don't have an iPad app, so you can't do that. Maybe they're working on one. I think actually also another thing that, Mark, I don't know if you're ever reporting on this, but I just think they should be looking to team up with OpenAI to do some sort of integration. But of course, the Microsoft stuff there might make some waves.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's exactly what I was going to say. They have to do it. They absolutely have to do it. I find myself constantly tapping over to the ChatGPT app when I could easily do some of that stuff within the apps I'm in. And to Mark's point, I've been playing around with the Galaxy S24. What they've done there is integrate a lot of the Google AI and their own right through the operating system. So in the Notes app, you can summarize your notes in the text messaging app. You can have it rewrite your messages, which seems a little bit ridiculous to me. They've done that throughout the operating system and Apple, it just seems they have to do it. I'll even say in the Vision Pro.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is not the year of the Vision Pro. This is the year of generative AI at Apple. This is all about WWDC in June and September when the iPhone 16 comes out adding AI to every app you can imagine, AI generated music playlists, keynote being able to type in some information and build a presentation for you. So I think that's the big initiative from Apple. I definitely think that they are two years behind the competition, but I think their implementation that you're going to see in iOS is going to take generative AI mainstream. And so I think they're even more than a dark horse. I think they're going to be hugely successful in consumer implementations for generative AI. And I think it's going to look very similar to what Samsung rolled out for the S24 in January. AI everywhere throughout the device.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, in Amazon, if you go into Whole Foods now, they want to have your palm read so you could buy stuff. And I was like, no fucking way. But then I let Apple. Scan my hands. Right. I didn't feel quite as bad with Apple doing it, but then I probably should.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Had thought about it. I mean, I especially thought about it sort of with these processes where you're scanning your face, and they're very clear that that's all happening on the device, which is really amazing, but you are giving all of this data about your face. You're turning your face, you're moving, you know, you're doing all of this stuff to create a clone of yourself. I don't want that as much as my clone does not look like me one day. It may actually look like me. And I would like that not to be on Apple or any some other company's servers. I've actually done this. I did a piece or I did an AI clone of myself. And the company has a lot of stuff in their privacy policy that they have access to this. What if that were to get in the wrong hands? And somebody, I would be the deep fake that says everyone should go by the Vision Pro.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They are going to be in deep trouble if they don't fix the gaming situation on this product because, Kara, as you said 100 times, the most impressive thing about this device is its immersiveness. Want a game in a Vision Pro. You do.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't forget, this is from the company that famously threw away the silos when it launched the phone. And don't forget, 15 years ago, the stylus is the way you controlled phones. And I think they're doing something similar here. However, if they want this thing to take off as a gaming machine, which, as Nilai said, is a very core part of virtual reality and augmented reality, they're going to need to release their own optional first party gaming hand controllers or developers for games are not going to come on board. You need Metal Gear Solid on this thing. You need something like supernatural on this thing. You want it to compete with the PSVR. You want it to compete with gaming on gaming consoles if you really wanted to take off. These Apple Arcade games, the blown-up phone games, blown up iPad games. This is not going to get it done.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You scan your hands and that's it. Your hands are the controllers. They're your mouse. They're the way you get around. And so you just look at whatever you want and then you pinch. You pinch or you can scroll around. You can also tap. You can reach out and tap stuff.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm just saying, like, Apple doesn't have those either because the developers are pissed at them or because Meta was smart and bought them all before Apple had a headset. So they're in a really hard place.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We all, many people, not we, but have tons of apple products. We live in iMessage. We live in all of the other, the Mac and AirPods and all these things connect. Meta can't do that. No other company can really do that. Google eventually maybe. Definitely not Microsoft. And putting all those things together, like my wife said to me, what is there working out in there? Connect with my watch. I said, not right now, but definitely one day. Yeah.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, it's exactly as Mark and Neil have been saying, right? Look, there's two ends of the spectrum right now. There's at the bottom end, the Rayban glasses with cameras and microphones and some small chips that can do some processing that connect to your phone. At the high end, we've got VR headsets that can do a lot more powerful things. And that's what we want the future to be. Apple had to make a decision. They can't make the small dream right now on the bottom end of that with all the power and all the capabilities that we want in that form factor. So they went the top end. They went, hey, let's throw everything into this and try to make the experience the best experience we can today. And that's what we have now, 3,500. One thing I do want to bring up that I do think, like, you know, we've been talking about this market before and your question to Mark. I would not underestimate the power of the Apple ecosystem here.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's an AR headset has clear lenses. It has waveguides. You're actually seeing what's in front of you and the digital content is overlaid, similar to what Google Glass did. But all they've done is they've taken a VR headset. Not all they've done, but what they've essentially done is taken a VR headset and they've put cameras there to give you video pass-through, right? The real deal is when they have Rayban style weighted glasses with displays that could essentially do 75% of what the Vision Pro does, but with the weight of real glasses. That's the magical product. And that's five to ten years away at this point”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is the best version of this thing that has ever been made. It is closer, it is closer to what everybody wants. Just the caution I'm making. I think this thing is really fun. I've had a lot of fun using it. The people that I made our review video with, they kept reminding me, like, it's fun. Get out of your critical review on your own. We're having a good time. Great. It's really fun. I'm just what I keep coming back to is this product is not actually the next product”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Can I just say a positive thing on the spatial video? So I also have been taking spatial video of my kids last couple months. For the video review, I retreated to a Pokino's cabin. I did not see my kids for 24 hours. I really enjoyed watching the video of them. I wasn't there with them, right? Yeah, I don't think I will feel right, like watching a video of them in the room. I was gone 24 hours work trip. I really like the sort of immersive way of watching that memory.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I did find dystopian and weird was like one of their first demo videos, WWDC, was the father wearing the headset to a party to record his daughter blowing out her cake or hitting the pinata or whatnot. That's not going to happen. Perhaps the reason they had to do that was because they didn't want to reveal that iPhone 15 Pro functionality early, right? The real use case is recording it on your phone. And it's a bit of a gimmick to have it on the headset. I mean, people would complain if the headset didn't have that ability, right? But I think no one should use that feature. Maybe if you're working and you see something and you want to turn really quick.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, no, because I'm sure you have this experience all the time. My daughter plays Minecraft on her iPad. She's in there. I don't know what she's doing, but she's constantly being like, look at the thing I made and showing it to me. And if she was having that experience in a headset, she couldn't just do that.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Something about that that's like you're going to be alone having like truly emotional experiences that I think connects to the next thing, which is you can work in it. But no one else can see what you're doing. You can work in it, but you can't really have a conversation with someone else about what you're doing. So like two people wearing two vision pros can't look at the same window. All these enterprise applications that Mark was talking about. And by the way, it's for the enterprise is like the dying sound of a headset maker. Like that's what you say before you die. And they've done it before.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I felt was super bittersweet watching videos of my daughter in this thing that I take. I took a bunch of videos at Christmas because I knew I was going to eventually have to review this thing. And I'm sitting there reliving my daughter opening her presents and playing with the family. And I'm like, I'm. This feels like I'm dying.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Been to your parents' house. This is what it looks like. My mom doesn't even have that, but yeah, yeah. So one of the things was, you're right, for work thing, that's where I see the applications. Besides, I happen to like immersive the immersive videos a lot. I like them on rides when I go to Disneyland or Universal too. I like the immersiveness of some of the stuff, which is really remarkable, actually. One of the things I was thinking about was I dragged the new head of CNN there, so I wanted him to see it, is because you tape these things for people who don't know, if you have an iPhone 15, it has spatial video in it. So you could load it up to this thing and people could see it. And you do feel like you're in it. You really, it's a very different experience. War correspondent. You could see news being done that way. I just kept seeing all kinds of little things. I didn't focus on surgery or things like that. I was like, boy, people could feel like they're really in it.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm gonna bring this thing and I'm gonna say get more work done. I always get a lot of work done, but I think it's gonna be a more comfortable experience. Like I'm not gonna have to run around finding a dongle to hook up to my dad's, you know.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We should have known this in June when Apple did the original demos with the press and it was capped exactly at 30 minutes and you listened to people who've used it over the last six months and you know there's a reason for that. You kind of want to take it off.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's completely unappealing to the mass consumer for someone like me who's a mix of an Apple diehard, a tech fan, and someone who covers the company, you know, it's something you have to get. And I'm looking forward to really diving deep into the device. I believe in this spatial computing category, I want to be able to use a device like this all day instead of a laptop, believe it or not. And it was disappointing. I'm sure it was disappointing to hear how heavy this thing is, how difficult it would be able to be used all day, every day. To me, this seems like something that can only be used in short stints. And I think that”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“$3,500, I think, is an extremely, it's a difficult price point to swallow, right? I mean, you get the top-down model. You're talking over $4,000. They are charging $200 for every accessory. So you want to get.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that when you are looking at the world, you should be able to see more than 49% of the colors your eyes can see. Just like a huge philosophical trade off for me is like you have to look at the world through screens. It doesn't work as well in a dark room. It gets blurrier. The digital information stays crisp, but the world around you gets blurrier. I'll just say this for Scott. It's controlled by your hands. Do you want to use a computer that is always watching your hands, Scott Galloway?”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He has been saying this since 2013. I have all these quotes in my review Tim Cook in 2016. Few people are going to view that it's acceptable to be enclosed in something. Tim Cook 2017. Virtual reality closes the world out. AR allows individuals to be present in the world. 2017. I also like the fact that AR doesn't isolate. I've never been a fan of VR because I think it does the opposite. The technology to build what they want, glasses. That's what they want. That's where they're going. They can't build it. It doesn't exist. So they had to build the CVR headset and build like a simulation of what it might be like. And that is going to totally close this market down until they can build the technology that enables the product that everybody actually wants.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so the cooking demo, right? Trying to put a timer over a pot and then put a different timer over another pot. And she'd effectively labeled the timers. It's very cool. That's the thing you want. The compromises are insane to get there. You have to perceive reality all the time through screens to do that right now. You shouldn't do that. So I know I can look at this thing and say, this isn't it. And do you know who agrees with me to Scott's question about Tim Cook? Tim Cook agrees with me.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's how I feel, and I really feel like I had this wow moment when cooking when I said, wow, there's a really cool way of putting the digital information in my real world. There are going to be more of those examples. But right now, and Neil did an incredible job pointing out all of the compromises in his review, there are just too many compromises. And that's for tech people. Look at all of us. We are tech people.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We don't know. Right, right. In a lot of ways, let me interrupt. We didn't know if you started doing the iPhone, you wouldn't know that Uber was coming. You just don't know what's going to happen here in a lot of ways, correct?”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah. In my video, I was plugged in like all day. Like, I was literally attached to the wall I tried all these things, working. It's pretty cool in working. But as Neil and I have been discussing, we have pretty good work setups at home. Is it great for watching TV? Absolutely. But when I started to really push the thing and my cooking scene and the video has kind of gone viral here on this, that's when you start to see what the potential of this thing could be. And that's what the unknown is right now of this kind of form factor is we don't know. We just don't know.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But here's the reason I did. Yeah, but go ahead. The reason I did that was, and one of the reasons I actually liked doing that for my testing is to figure out where you're going to use this in your daily life. And it was still unclear to me after a lot of that time where someone is going to wear this in their daily life. Right now, by the way, it's way too big. It's way too bulky. The battery life sucks. You're not going to wear it in all of these parts of your daily life.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I agree with a lot of what Mark said. I think we knew at the phone what it was going to be used for, literally, phone. Texting, email. Those things have been proven by other smartphones. Same with tablets, laptops, watches. Here, and this is how I took this approach of this review, I do not tell anyone to buy this right now. I don't think most people are going to buy this right now. It's an Apple Die Hard product. What I did was I put this thing on. Yeah, I tried to wear it for 24 hours. That was the video. I will say I'm still a little bit in pain.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People already knew before the iPad came out that they wanted a form factor like a tablet. It was pretty obvious a tablet was something that would become pretty popular and useful in certain markets. And then lots of people have them now. I think the VR headset market was never really proven until now. I mean, I saw some data yesterday that only 8 million shipments happened across 2023 Apple sells 8 million iPhones when they first come out. So I certainly think there's some similar markets there. It's a small market. I think it's an unproven market.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, with all due respect, I don't necessarily completely agree with Scott. I think the iPad was a bit similar in that the idea of tablets was around. People had been toying with tablets. I think Microsoft launched what they called the slate a few weeks before the iPad was announced. I think the difference is that”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, let's give this Apple headset a try. Siri, UPorn. Korean ladyboy, freakishly large hands, wayward hitchhiker. Safe word is maybe okay. Oh. Hey guys, it's Sky Galloway here to ask you a question about the mixed reality headset. So my question, Apple has always been successful as the second mouse. It comes into categories that are already established, laptops, MV3 players. Phone, smartphones. It has never been successful as far as I can tell in an entirely new hardware. And wasn't this just an ego-driven call option that Tim Cook wanted to make sure when he greenlit this two or three years ago that the Zuck didn't establish a means of distribution and hardware that Apple would then be two or three years behind? And now that this is a giant thud specifically the category of headsets, isn't this just a more elegant thud?”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I did at the end of the review. Look, I went skiing in them because they look like ski goggles. You should go skiing in them, obviously. It's just obvious what you should do with these in the review One of the things I wanted to try in that was recording video and photos because one thing that has been really successful for Meta are the Raybands. I mean, I would not say really successful. They haven't sold a massive comparatively to... Phones and other types of markets, but people are getting used to wearing these. I take my meta-ray bands every time I go skiing with my kids because I don't want to use a phone.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't. You have to deliver a lot of value to someone to get something on their face. A lot. I don't think that this delivers that much value. There's hints of what might come. But you got to make that form factor look like the thing people will accept and then deliver a lot of value. And it's nowhere on that curve right now”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so you are more grounded, and that makes being in this much easier, right? You can see around your house better and you can get up and walk around and you're not going to feel tripping over something. Obviously the quest has that kind of feature too. They have pass-through. They have pass-through on the Quest 3 that's been improved. But that quality, like things get warped, it's terrible quality. This is far, far better than that. So just being able to be in your real world is, I think, the difference here. But look, I've tried the magic leap, and that obviously has actual lenses where you're seeing your world. And there's a lot of compromises there. But look, everything's got a compromise right now”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT