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Marques Brownlee

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“Yeah, well, I did a similar video 24 hours in the metaverse wearing, it was the Quest II. I did that at that point where because everyone was like, What are we going to do in the metaverse? So, okay, I'm going to try all these things in the metaverse. I think it goes back to you are more grounded in the real world in this. So, sure, it's kind of more similar to a Snapchat spectacles or a Rayband, but not really because, as Neil points out so clearly in the review, you're looking through a display. You're looking at this display for so many hours that your eyes start to burn. truly the cucumbers felt so good.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Anyway, Joanna, you said for your review, you wore it for an entire day. Now, again, people will not be doing this, but how do you, because it's meant for a couple hours, right? Working or something or watching a movie or we're looking at pictures, et cetera, especially the immersion stuff is pretty cool. How do you compare with other devices you've reviewed? You've tried the Snapchat ones, the meta Facebook Ray bands, obviously the Oculus. How do you compare?”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's what I think the transformations going to end up looking like with personas. But I thought I was a little surprised they went with the personas versus the emojis thing. Like I thought they rolled out mimojis five years ago to get people prepared for this. So I was surprised they shifted from there. The other thing that I know they considered is a mirror accessory attachment. You put on the headset, you have a mirror with a camera. I'm just joking.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, it looks like you're like an NBA 2K7, right? From 15 years ago, right? Have you ever seen those comparisons about how long the Bronze been in the league? You have his original NBA 2K character then and then what it looks like now on the PS5”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But if you ship that, you get that, and you get that reaction, and then you get, oh, you're just doing what Meta is doing with these avatars with no legs. So let's do these uncanny PS3 characters. At least everyone will talk about them.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But also it's very convenient for them to slap the beta term on, right? Like they obviously slap the beta term on. They were like, I just imagine, Mark, you probably ever maybe some reporting on this that internally they were like, we have to ship this. We can't ship this without a way to do a video call. It's not really our standards. Beta it.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, you know, first of all, in the persona thing, this is going to be interesting coming from me. I actually don't think it looked that bad. I think that, first of all, I agree with Neil that the idea that it might be rude to show up in a meeting or awkward to show up in a meeting that way, I completely agree with that. But I don't think it looked that terrible. Like I saw all of your personas, I mean, I could see it was Joanna, it was Nila, it was Marquez MKBHD. You could really tell it's them. And if you think about it that it's replacing the ability to have a, you know, a front facing camera, I think it's a pretty cool technology. They've shown that it's going to get better, but the little issue with that is their definition a better seems to be removing sort of that glass box around you to make you look like you're just floating. What I want to see to get better is I want to see it look more realistic. I want to see less of a delay. Well, Joanna's talking.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that would be great. But the thing is so the problem they need to solve is there's no front facing camera, so you can't go to a meeting wearing a headset. So they need, so this thing just replaces that front camera in every app that calls for the camera. It's just not good enough. Like, I think it would be rude to call another person with this. Like, it is, it's about just turn your camera off. Have a normal conversation like a normal person.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it has a real problem with hair. I mean, all it's doing is it's scanning your face in 3D and then wrapping it around to 3D model. So you can see that's where the PS3ness of it comes from. You can see how kind of fundamentally simplistic it is. There's no texture there. I think it's rude to show up in a meeting in a persona. There's only one situation that I think this really works out in is if you don't have the optic ID, so when you put it on, it scans your eyes and unlocks. If you don't have that and you just have a passcode, you can put it on someone else and they can show up in meetings in your persona. And I was like, I need to get an intern. Just send him to all my meetings Just nodding along.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I said this in the video, I was like, maybe this is me. Maybe this is just I don't look, you know, you're looking in the mirror is tough and that's what happens when you get older. When you get older looking in the mirror is”
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“Many people have said I look like Mona Lisa. I just look like a deformed. Terrible Botox person. Right. And every time I call someone now with this, if I call my mom, my dad, my sister, my wife, they are. Petrified, and I cannot have a real conversation. All they say is you look terrifying. Please call me back on the phone.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When I call people with my persona and for people listening who don't know, this is basically because there's no webcam pointed at you, they create this 3D rendering of you that Neil says, I look like a PSP, what character are you? P3. PS3”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it was terrible. And also, they didn't get it quite right. And Sergei Brin would walk around wearing it at Oscar parties and stuff and put it on supermodels and things like that. But let's talk about that idea of meta and also looks and things like that. And one clear Beta Bomb, you talked about Joanna was the personas feature. Explain why Neil said they did you so dirty. It's much better than the metaverse at Facebook, but that is extraordinarily low bar. So Joanna, first talk about that idea and then the comparison to the meta effort, which is now gone essentially it looks like.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, it just didn't work. It just, Mark, it didn't work. I actually have a scene in my upcoming book where I'm on a boat with all Google people wearing them, and it was like dystopian nightmare. Right.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes. But the point is that, you know, funny enough, Google nailed the form factor a decade ago. They nailed the use cases a decade ago. And we've gone completely in reverse. So it's so funny. 10 years ago, Google made fun of actually getting it right in so many ways, not the execution, but the vision. And in 10 years from now, we'll be probably exactly where Google was 10 years ago. And people are going to love it.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A flag in the ground and saying, we don't want to risk Google or Meta or Amazon or whatever in the next few years coming out with a headset that creates this market. We might as well be there too. And by creating the Vision Pro, they've started creating the technologies and the work that will eventually allow them to get to the glasses form factor. You know, so many people made fun of Google Glass when that launched. I think it was almost a decade ago now. They made fun of the form factor. They made fun of people using it in the shower. They made fun of the price. But there was only one person.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is some risk there with Apple coming out with a product spending eight years of development time and several billion dollars and it being a flop. But then again, the amount of money they generate with the amount of resources and people they have, you have to sometimes make a bet. And what they've done here is they've decided that the bigger risk is not doing something. The bigger risk is not planting.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, first on the term spatial computing, I think it's a pure marketing play, right? Apple needed to sort of take a headset that has existed, an idea that has existed for a decade, put a new spin on it to make it seem like an entirely new category, right? That's what their marketing people do. And it's interesting because it seemed like up until about a year ago that they were going to sort of own the idea that this is a mixed reality headset, that this is a reality product, right? They changed the name of the product from the reality pro to the vision pro fairly late in the game. They changed the name of the operating system at the last minute from XROS to VisionOS, XR standing for mixed reality, right? So there was probably this epiphany that if we're really going to sell these things, we need to market it as a computer instead of a VR or AR headset. And in terms of the device,”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, that's a lot of words, but I like them all. Anyway, so let's get into this. Mark, this idea of spatial computing, talk a little bit about it because it is sort of a new idea, but it's not. Again, I wrote a story back in 1993 about this, like this idea. And in Tim Cook's case, he has been talking about this for a while. We had a lunch where he, the only two topics he'd talk about was AR and glasses and Auburn football. So I ended up talking because I'm not interested in Auburn football. Was AR? He seemed obsessed with it. Mark, talk a little bit about the idea of how it's excited him. It really has in a lot of ways.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think mine is six words, it's going to take a while. It's going to take a while if it indeed ever takes off the Apple Watch took maybe three or four years to really take off the iPhone probably took two, three years. The iPad actually took off like a rocket out of the gate and then sort of after five, six years sort of fell off. But, you know, the Vision Pro is going to take longer than all of those to take off if it does.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Everyone, excited to chat. So, the reason I've gathered you all here with me today, of course, is the Vision Pro, and we're going to talk about other things. But before we begin, just a reminder that this will air on Monday, February 5th. So after the official launch on Friday, and after the Q1 earnings reports come out, to start out, can each of me give me your five word story of the Vision Pro? Here's mine. I really like it. I think it's the future of computing. I know that sounds crazy for me, but Joanna, let's start with you.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hey guys, it's Scott Galloway here to ask you a question about the mixed reality headset. So my question Apple has always been successful as the second mouse. It comes into categories that are already established, laptops, MV3 players. Phone, smartphones. It has never been successful as far as I can tell in an entirely new hardware. And wasn't this just an ego-driven call option that Tim Cook wanted to make sure when he greenlit this two or three years ago that the Zuck didn't establish a means of distribution and hardware that Apple would then be two or three years behind? And now that this is a giant thud specifically the category of headsets, isn't this just a more elegant?”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Welcome to the Single Life, I guess. A lot of people are talking about this nearly 20 years later, it's also worth asking the question if the Vision Pro is the exact compromise that Steve Jobs was worried it would be. I had a chance to demo the Vision Pro actually twice, as did two of my guests today. Wall Street Journal Senior Personal Tech Columnist Joanna Stern did a full immersion program. Fox's Neil Patel, editor in chief of the Verge and host of the Dakota podcast, reviewed it as well. We're also joined by Mark German, chief correspondent on Apple and other tech for Bloomberg who's been reporting on this market and especially Apple about what it means for its business. We'll discuss how the Vision Pro fits into Apple's vision of the future of its huge ecosystem and will talk about some of the blowback the company has been facing because of its dominance in the mobile sector, such as the App Store and, of course, the Antitrust actions that might be taken against it.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fundamental problem here is that headphones are miraculous things. You put a pair of headphones and you get the same experience you get with a great pair of speakers. There's no such thing as headphones for video. There's not something I can carry with me that I can put on, and it gives me the same experience I get when I'm watching my 50 inch plasma display at home. And until somebody invents that, you're going to have these opposing constraints. Well, they have those huge goggles you can wear, but they're lousy. But you never get a date if you ever wear.”
2024-02-22 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Is the Apple Vision Pro All That? · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Hi everyone from New York Magazine and the Vox Media Podcast Network. This is on with Kara Swisher and I'm Kara Swisher. And today because I am at Heart a Geek, we're going to talk about Apple and its new vision, specifically the Vision Pro, the company's much anticipated venture into AR, VR, Mixed Reality Space, or Spatial Computing as the company is calling it. That's exactly what it is. I have actually had two demos of it. And I've been reporting on these VRAR launches for more than, I think it's three decades now. I just unearthed a post Washington Post article on touchable computing where I tried to get the person at Best Buy demoing it for me to mention porn, which they did not. In any case, I know a lot about this topic and I've been anticipating someone getting it right. And we're going to talk about whether Apple has done that. And in fact, back at the 2005 conference that Walt Mosberg and I did, we interviewed Apple's”
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