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  1. You need to learn. You see, I do more tabloid telly than you. Rack management is a lot funnier term than manage management.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. No, no, because I don't remember well enough to do it for her. But I think what happened to me is part of the drive, but it's not a logical causal thing. I think that's part of my personality trait that I'm very driven and don't know what to do if I stop. But it's not causal

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. I'm not sure they would be another breakout personing money or consumer finance for quite a long time. Breakout is the keyword.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. I'm a great believer that I have had, and I can think of sliding doors moments in my life when the success I've had would not have happened. And anybody who's super successful, I don't care whether it was Steve Jobs or Mark Zuckerberg's, they will have had luck at some point, something that could have changed it all. Now, because I have had that luck and because of what that luck has given me, that means you have to do payback. You have to do payback because you got the luck. And you have to recognize my success is not because I'm innately brilliant. It's because there were lots of people who could have been successful. I was the one. I was the one who got that luck. And that brings a responsibility. And so I feel that burden of responsibility, particularly in my case, because I'm not sure. Certainly, if I think if I stop tomorrow.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. I feel when I do talks to university students and I say there are four things that you need to be successful. Talent, but a lot of people have talent. Hard work, and I mean real hard work. And anyone who says you don't need to work hard to be successful is lying. Focus, I think, is really important. You can't be best at everything. So find the thing that you're really good at. And then the last one and the most important one and the one that decides everything else is luck.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Yeah, and actually at the moment I want to go a bit slower for the next couple of months before my TV show comes back and things like that because I think we all need to look after ourselves and it's an important lesson. Why? Because I'm all those successful things in whatever that means that you just said. I mean what my job has done is given me an amazing life and wealth and influence and

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. I don't know if he listened to me, he spoke to me, but I don't know that he listened to me. I think the cost of living remedies that the Chancellor came up with for most people will cover, well, for the poorest, will cover the one-year hike in energy bills only, not the issues with food, not the issues with petrol, not the issues with transport, not the issues with rent, not the issues with mortgages, not the issues with the national insurance rise. But it was a lot better than I was expecting. I think we are looking for a very, very difficult winter for many people. And there are lots of people in poverty. I'm worried about the summer too. I think the lack of free school meals this year for children over the summer holidays is going to become a big contentious issue and is a real problem for some of the poorest. And I would really like to see us providing free school meals over the summer holidays. I think that's very important. But I think that the Chancellor and the government are going to have to be open to more action if things...

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. If I were a party politician, my aim would not be to be to tell the government what it should do, it would be to expose the government for what it isn't doing. My job when calling the government out was to do it to extol them to act, not to expose them for their lack of action. And actually, that's what I'd like to see more in politics. I'd like to see that when one party takes another suggestion, why not credit them for it? Why would it be so bad to do that? When they do what you've been asking them to do, why not say we're grateful and we'll happily work with you? I mean, we are in, our country has a real problem with the cost of living crisis at the moment on the back of the pandemic. We've got 650 people in the House of Commons. I would like to see those collective brains working together for the betterment of the country rather than to not backs at each other in the commons.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. As a campaigner, if you want to have influence, when you get a win, you have to say thank you to the other side or you don't get a win again. And it would be churlish to have your wish list given to you and not to say, well done. And it is not wrong. And that goes back to that whole political problem and that polemica argument before.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. I would call it around 85. Now, I had written about it previously and other people have been saying similar things, but it happened that what I was asking him to do, convert the loan not loan into a payment, you know, make sure you prioritize substantially prioritize those on the lowest incomes. Make sure you don't miss out anything for people on disabilities. I don't know how much of that was because I'd suggested it or how much of that was a sense check, but I know in the few days before, I think they were speeding the plans along and got it quicker. And let me be really straight. For everyone who is party polemic and doesn't like the fact that I said well done, what I said was for a conservative government this is far better than we could have expected. And I'm very grateful.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. Well, it's not wanting influence. It's actually feeling that somebody has to do something and being the person in the place to do it. There's a really interesting thing as a campaigner, right? As a campaigner, many people who do single campaigns, when they win, find it really difficult because they don't know what to do next. As a serial campaign, you know, I've got another five or six on the go at the moment. The first one, I won the scam ads where I was pressurizing the government to put scam adverts into the online safety bill. We got them to turn around on that. And now I'm working with the government on it. The thing with the Chancellor, I spoke to him a few days before he made his announcement. I think he was doing two things. One, checking what I wanted and two, doing a sense check of how it would be received. Because on this issue, I had been very vocal, as you say, saying that people would freeze or starve. I still think there's a danger of that. I still think we're going to have a very difficult winter. And the help that we had was not even close to what was needed. And then the Chancellor made a statement that was staggering.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. People might say to you. I know, but it is important. I don't judge on party, I judge on policy. Sure. And the same, and I've done the same, and there's enough of me attacking both sides or critiquing, if you like.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. It's still the same. It's still a polemic job. Crossbench in the House of Lords is a part-time, secondary political job that is important, but it's the frontline politics. It's hard enough being in the media. I mean, to be in frontline politics where people are opposing you is just not something I would want to do.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. Luck to him. I will never take a polemic party job. I'll be straight. My mental health is not robust enough to deal with it and I wouldn't put my family through it.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. No, for a couple of reasons. One, because when I'll be honest, when I got the letter, I breathed the sigh of relief because there's a lot of pressure on at the moment. And I thought maybe a couple of years is probably more sensible. And two, because I don't know who they will appoint, but my hope is that they have some good people who are willing to give more time than I can give at the moment. Because I think it needs to be done properly. And if I'd done it and not given the time, then I would have been slated for it everywhere. So I had my plan, my media plan in my head, to be honest with you, was if I had got it, what I've just said to you, I would have gone very, very public on very, very early. So that people knew. So that people knew I'm planning a gradual transition.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Because I don't think I was willing to give them the time that they felt was necessary to be in the Lord. You made very legitimate calls.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. That's what I told them. And they were very, the interview, I think, went very well. I got very good feedback. But I think that was a stumbling block, although they have invited me to apply again in future.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. Yes, I do. And I was much more annoyed the last time because I did this really silly thing and I was honest in the interview. I had an interview and they talked about timings, and I said, because I'm always want to be open and transparent, gosh, you've got this out of me. I haven't spoken about it before. I said, we talked about most of the time that the Lord sits is about 3 till 10 on a Monday, Tuesday, Wednesday. And I said to them, look, I need to be straight with you in terms of the hours I can give. I'm very busy with my job, but most importantly, I have a nine-year-old daughter. And until she's 13, my most important job from 6.30 until 8 at night is to be with her and to put her to bed. Maybe until she's 12, whatever. I don't know. She's not got to that age yet. And so I would see my role as being learning for three to five years with limited input and then gradually over the next five to ten years committing more and more time to the House of Lords if I became a crochet peer and less time to everything else.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. But why but why? Why should it work that way? Why don't we actually have the, and I listen, I understand the party system and I understand we're never going to break this, but I would prefer the actual more consensual cooperative politics where we work together. I think the problem we have on social care is because everything is so polemic and we know social care has to be a 30-year solution. It needs to be all the parties agreeing on something that they're going to stick to over the next 30 years. But our system does not allow that to happen.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. My biggest problem with politics isn't the individuals, is that we have the most abominable as the most Western democracies, abominable, destructive, horrendous system. We have, let's just, if you imagine, can you imagine any other institution that has its leading executive team split into two or more and are made to face off, shout at each other and oppose? I mean, we have an opposition. We have a party whose job is to oppose. How would you run any form of organization with an if you had one group of managers to do and one group of managers to oppose?

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. Well, surprisingly, the first things I say is I defend the individual politicians I meet. The vast majority of politicians of all parties tend to be, and people are always surprised when I say this, well-meaning people who tend to want to do good. I'm not saying everybody, but the vast majority of them, I think, are in it for the right reasons, even those whom I fundamentally disagree with what they're trying to do, you tend to find there is a cohesive logic for why they're doing it within the parameters of the way that they see the world. And it tends to be for the right reasons. I think we have a mixed bag of caliber in politics. I worry that it has got worse over recent years.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. But not in the mainstream. And I did it on the week, but not in the mainstream because every time then it was done in a polemic way. And I was asked to be in debates and I was asked if I wanted to be involved in a Brexit debate. And I said, I would love to. And they said, well, you'll be a remainer because you've been renewed without permission in the Remain literature, without permission. And I said, well, I won't do it if you're going to put me as a Remainer because that's not what I want to do. And that's not where I sit. Funny enough, I dug out.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. So I had the issue that I wrote a guide on how to decide how to vote on Brexit. I tried to do it as impartially as I can. I got external fact-checkers to come in. I did everything as good as you can do. And I mean, there's no such thing as neutrality, but you do your best. And lots of people who read that told me it was helpful. But we never had that anywhere else in the media because broadcast media felt they had to balance. And then I was asked to be involved in...

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. And we did a study, and it came out about 6040 won't remain, and 40 went Brexit. And I had lots of Brexiteers who said, thank you, you've really helped me make up my mind. And I wrote at the bottom, because it was public, that I was my choice based on my risk assessment was remain, but it was only 64 to remain. And just like you should go on holiday where I go because you might have different tastes, nor should you vote that. But just on this, because I think this is really important. I think the media and the BBC were very destructive in Brexit and I hope that there has been good naval gazing on this.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. What I was called What are the facts? They said, and look, what you have to do, there is a paradox of neutrality. So if you are not party political, people will listen. As soon as you align to one side or the other, you are instantly written off by everybody on the other side. Ah, you're only saying that because you're Labour. You're only saying that because you're Tory. You're only saying that because you're a remainer. You're only saying that as Brexiteer. You are not neutral. So everybody, it was really interesting. People say to me, you know, people who are Remainers, don't you think you could have swung the vote? No, right? Because if I came out one way or the other, if I came out and said, vote remain or vote leave, everybody who was on the other side would have instantly discounted what I said as a campaigner.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. It doesn't look it's really interesting on the party political side. I have for a long time now and as I've grown in influence in your terms been rigidly and strictly a party political. Not apolitical, my job is political, money is political, consumer issues are political, but not party political. And I had this in Brexit. You know, if we're doing the stats, the most trusted person in Brexit, I'm sure you got that in your research document, in all those things.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. Look, you can look at this from a great macroeconomic level, and I've had recently some criticisms from people strongly on the left who are saying actually, you know, their criticism of me is you put a sticking plaster over the system and therefore you in your people to the problems of the capitalist system. Well, if that's your philosophy, it is. But, you know, I'm a pragmatist and live in a practical world. And frankly, if you can help some of the poorest in society get a billion pounds back from the banks with template letters on bank charges, I'm pretty proud I did that and I'm not going to have anybody tell me that actually I shouldn't have helped those people get the money back because that would have exposed the problems in the system.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. Who would just print the letter and not personalize it? And, you know, you can look at it in a smiley way, but I didn't then and I don't now. I still find it. Desperate and depressing That the biggest and most profitable sector that the banks had, which was bank overdraft charging for going beyond your overdraft limit, many people had thousands of pounds worth of charges. And it was a cross subsidy of the poorest to the richest. Five percent of the people who were paying these hideous, unfair, disgraceful charges. And I found that made me angry then, and it makes me angry now.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. That was someone who thought, and I hadn't really thought about how many people were not capable of that adversarial relationship. And bank charges was a thing that really opened my eyes to that. Now, the percentage I'm going to give you aren't strictly accurate, but this is the bit that I learned. So I spoke to someone who had worked at the bank but later worked at Citizens Advice who told me that somewhere around, I don't know, was it, 15 or 20% of my bank charge template letter, and there were six million of them done. Where it says your name, your address, they would not delete your name, your address. And where it says my case. So they would keep in all the bits that were the template and not delete them.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. But it was a great campaign. We got people a billion pounds back and later went on to get people around £12 billion back on PPI, which was similar. The epiphany from bank charges was a mental health epiphany. So when I started this, if you were interviewing me in 2003 when I set up the website, I would have said company's job is to screw you, our job is to screw them back. We live in an adversarial consumer society. I can almost remember it's like a script. We live in an adversarial adversarial consumer society. I'm not anti-company, but just like when CityPlay United, I want City to score. I don't want United to score, but I don't think they're wrong for trying to do so. That encapsulated my philosophy at the time.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. Okay, but to actually be avert in a public forum and say you're the money saving expert and you're Jewish, as I always say, I'm the money-saving expert and I'm Jewish. I'm not the money-saving expert because I'm Jewish. But the two, I have had over my career and I remember a well-known broadcaster making a couple of really inappropriate gags, which I then never did that program again afterwards. I didn't call them out. This is, again, this is early on in my career. I don't think anyone would be stupid enough to try it now. I get on social media sometimes, ah, no wonder you're so good with money. You're Jewish. And I call back and say, you do realize that's anti-Semitism. And actually, am I the stereotype of the old-fashioned stereotype? Because should I not, you know, what I do is about how to take on companies, how to empower the consumer. It's a very difficult one. And it's actually braver view to bring it up. And I think we just need to say.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. I didn't feel that. I mean, I think what it was is certainly unacceptable with my 50-year-old eyes now. And if my child went through that, I would be going in to complain to the school and it would be outrageous. But this was the 1980s. And we were not the same on race and religion and diversity that we are now.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. The word taunted My nickname at school was Jew. There were two Jews in the year, and my nickname was Jew. And it had originally, I think, been something like Jewie Louie or something a bit warmer. And then just in the way that it works, it was shortened. And of course, this is the 1980s. And it was just something I accepted. I didn't see it as pejorative. I didn't see it as anti-Semitic. I look back at it and think it was, but I don't think it was deliberately or prescriptively. That was just how people did things in those days. The only bit I remember I didn't like was there was one boy who would occasionally throw sweets in the, I call it a Jewie and look to see if I would run to grab the sweets, which of course I never did. But barring that at school.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. We just started talking, and I burst into tears after about 30 seconds. It still makes me want to cry now. And I spoke about it the one and only time. And it was one of the best things I've ever done and one of the worst things I've ever done. I had without exaggeration tens of thousands of messages from people in the same boat who had never spoken about it on social media so much so that I couldn't cope with them all. It was too much to be the portal sharing everybody's childhood grief when I was struggling and I'm not spoken about my own. And I have a rule now that I will never go through that again. No, I won't. But I'm happy that it's out there and it's still available if people want to go and watch it. But it took me a good few weeks to recover.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. Going to back this off was what was in my head. How am I, how am I going to stall like a politician, if you like? And I got there, and the brilliant Tony Livsy, who was presented, who also lost his mother young

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. And a friend had suggested me, and I wrestled very hard because I'd never spoken about it to my family, never mind publicly. And in the end, I think I wrote something first that said something on the basis of I've thought long and hard about whether I should be a patron of this charity because it means admitting that I went through this, but I'm going to be a patron in the hopes that a child in future will find it more comfortable to do what I'm doing. And they asked me to do an interview on Mother's Day with Radio 5 Live. Because I'm so busy and I get so many requests. I basically accidentally said yes. And so I got to the day and my day, and it still operates now, I have a list printed out by my PA of what the next day is and it's by the half hour. And you go here and you do this. And here's what you're doing the next day. And I got to 2.30 in the afternoon and I saw that I had to go to 5 live and do this interview. And I suddenly got this, oh my God, what am I doing? And on the walk there, I was like, what on earth am I going to say? How am I...

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. Yeah, I've spoken about it once publicly, and that was a shock. If I'm really honest, I was asked about eight years ago, seven years ago to be a patron of a charity called Grief Encounter that looks after children who've been through grief

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. At that point, I was suddenly exploding with just the opportunity of things people take for normal of having friends and going out and having a fun time and talking and meeting people were things that I had not had since from 12 to 18, which are the formative years for pretty much anyone. And I was like, this is amazing. It was a pancake flip, just everything was exciting and wonderful and just something to grasp hold of.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. Was after Uni, but yeah. I think what happened to me and being locked away was part of the trauma that I went through. It wasn't who I was, it was what had happened. And of course, when you get trapped into a narrative, both an internal and an external narrative, so I had lots of excuses why I didn't go out to my friends at school and that I was really going out, which was a lie. Of course, I wasn't. But to myself as well, and until school ended, I had no way to break that pattern. So when school ended, I took a year out, which was the best thing I've ever done because I was a very, very young 18-year-old. And I did lots of, you know, I went and worked on Camp America and I was a VDU operator and worked behind a bar and just learnt a bit more about life so that by the time I started university, I'd flipped like a pancake.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. Yeah, I found it very difficult to leave the house because I hadn't been there when my mother was killed. So I found it very difficult. And yes, until 18, I really didn't go out. I mean, I just didn't go out. I mean, I would go to my grandma's, but I would stay in the house or I'd do things with family and I wouldn't go anywhere. I never went to the pub, never went to a party, never did any of that. And it was a very, very tough time.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. So, no, look, I was one of the leaders of the Lib Dem Caucus within the NUS. I gave up my party membership of the Lib Dems, I think, when I was 24. So I stopped being a party member after 24. And I genuinely since then have not always voted for the same party at elections. I am a floating voter.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  42. Do you know? What is it that you genuinely didn't know? I know who I would have wanted to be when I was 21. That doesn't read across to now

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. You know, I'm not sure. I think in the early days, it could have been one of a couple. I'm not even going to go there because it's so long ago. It doesn't matter.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. That was the obvious thing. You know, I was a pretty decent political speaker. I really enjoyed politics. My degrees in government and law, you know, LSE is a very political university and is a fight to get the roles in there. And there's lots of stories involved in that, which we don't have time for. So I think until my early 30s, that was what I wanted.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. Channels, traffic, and I had about 15,000 people on this email list that I used to email about my deals of the week. And I went to them and I said, you know, I know it's a TV channel, but I really think we've got something. And they were like, no, no, no, we're too busy. We're too busy. And I said, okay, fair enough. And then the channel went bust. And I look back and think, thank Heavens, they didn't say, yeah. Thank Heavens.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. No, not a clue although the thing I'd been most passionate about was when I was General Secretary or President of LSE Students Union, I loved it and I was obsessed and I worked incredibly hard. From that time onwards until I got to simply money and came up with the money saving expert and the deal of the day stuff, which as I was doing, I didn't have the oomph in my work. I worked hard because I'm a hard worker, but I didn't have the passion. That was the first moment when bang, you know, I was desperate to get out of bed and do my job and excited about what I was creating. And the first time I felt I was doing something really creative. So I didn't know when I started, but within six months, I knew I had something. And there's actually a story after about a year on the channel because I did, it was all on this deal of the day program that I did where I did all my research as the money saving expert, me changed my title. And my bit of their website was the only bit you had to log into. But it had 96% of the...

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  47. So I, after I left university, I was very involved in student politics. I was very political then. And I left uni, I went to work in the city and financial PR. And then I did a postgraduate broadcast journalism. After that, I came to the BBC as a producer reporter. And except my contract was producer reporter, I was never allowed to report because classically the BBC put you where it wanted you to be. Let's just say I don't think they were a particularly good employer at the time or very good at talent management. We'll save those, but it was very tough to progress and you were not, you know, I hope when I, in my years of being an employer, which I have been, I have a little more respect for my staff's wishes than were given to the staff there at the time. Shall we say it like that? Is that subtle?

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. I mean, he was the headmaster of a special ed school, so it was a very different way of doing it. My uncle, my uncle, who has been my accountant for a very long time, Uncle Tony, he was very messy and he went to the same union as me and he did economics. And he would be the one we'd sit there and he'd do, what's 12 times 14 and stuff when I'm seven or eight. And I loved it. That was a fun game.

    2022-06-22 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Martin Lewis One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  49. No, no, my wife is interested in the score. I will sacrifice a score to leave better letters in my rack for the next go. So I'm better at preparing my rack for the next go so that I have a better choice of letters to school and better on the next go.

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  50. But that's because that's not because I'm better at making words in it, it's because my rack management is better. If you're a scrabble player.

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