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Matt Goodwin

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  1. Remember Black Lives Matter? Well, Kiers Talmer took the knee after 30 police officers had already been injured and after BLM protests had gone on a rampage across America destroying cities like Portland. I don't really actually buy into that narrative that you suggested. And also there was prejudice and discrimination against British Muslims and that should always be condemned. There was also prejudice and discrimination going the other way, Nick. And what annoyed a lot of people in this country, and this is an important point, I just want to make it, is Keir Starmer has only ever spoken to one side of that debate. And that is why so many people in this country are frustrated. There are lots of cases in this country of white British people being discriminated against or being targeted because of their race and ethnicity.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. Where you and I depart, I think, is I do not think that the anger and alienation in this country was simply caused by a tweet, a misinformed, misleading tweet that was going viral. I actually think the problem facing this country is way bigger than that. I don't think misinformation is so, and I don't think social media is. The other thing I would just say about the police, because

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Oh, I think there was a lot of misinformation going on online, but where I depart from much of the commentary is that what is going on in this country is much bigger than a single tweet or a single piece of so-called misinformation disinformation. I think we saw this after Brexit. We saw it pretty much, we see it every time basically something happens in this country which the liberal class don't like. It just, we're told it's fake news. We're told it's misinformation. We're told it's social media. The reality is for lots of people, this merely became a lightning rod, a symbol of how our social contract in this country is breaking down. Now, of course, lightning rolling rod.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. People coming into Britain, we don't know who they are, committing crimes, murder, rape, etc., and having a migration policy that doesn't reflect the views of a large majority of people in this country.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. I have absolutely no time for violence and criminality. I made that clear during the protests. But what struck many people in this country is the hypocrisy in how we responded to these events versus how we responded to the riots in 2011 or indeed the Black Lives Matter protests. In both of those cases, Nick, it was entirely acceptable for much of the political media class to turn around and say, well, gee, what caused this? What are the wider legitimate grievances that are going on here? In 2011, we were told endlessly it was about austerity. It was about public spending cuts. With the Black Lives Matter protest, we had Keir Steimer and others rushing to take the knees saying this was about decades of injustice. Why is it different this time around? Why can't we say, you know what, we reject violence and criminality among those people that should have gone to prison for some of the things they did? But there's clearly a wider legitimate grievance in this country about borders not being controlled.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Let's stick with the protests. Why are those far right groups present? Those far right groups are present because millions of people in this country, sixty six percent according to the latest UGOV data, say migration has been too high, two thirds want to see illegal migrants removed from the country. I don't think this is a controversial view. This is a majority view in this country. Okay.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. I think there were racists and there were violent criminals on the streets. We all saw that. And I think everybody in the country rejects that. But I think it is also true, Nick, that we also saw women and children at protest. We saw peaceful protesters. We saw people who were saying, hang on a minute, I'm not actually comfortable with what's happening in this country anymore. I'm not comfortable with losing control of our borders and paying six to seven billion pounds a year for the privilege of that. I don't feel safe in my own country. It's not just me saying this. If you look at the polling and the surveys that happened after the riots and the protests, two-thirds of all people in this country said that the disturbances had been caused by recent migration policy in this country. Now, they also blame people like Nigel Farage and Tommy Robinson and right-wing politicians. But I would argue those politicians themselves reflect this deeper unease and anger over

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Well, I think it was pretty obvious a lot of people in the country that what happened on the streets really was rooted in the simple fact that lots of people in Britain today don't feel safe in their own country. It wasn't just about the stabbings in Southport. It was an accumulation of events. Remember the police officers being assaulted at Manchester Airport. Remember the British Army officer almost being stabbed to death? The machete wielding gangs in South End, I think lots of people were looking at this and saying, well, hang on a minute, the whole social contract seems to be breaking down in this country and fundamentally they didn't feel safe because of illegal migration, legal migration, and I think the failure of the political class to integrate newcomers into our wider society.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. While I wouldn't describe myself as an advocate, I'd say instead perhaps that I'm giving voice to lots of people in this country who feel that they're not included or even respected in the national conversation.

    2024-10-18 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Matt Goodwin One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source