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Matt Rivitz

lines on the record: 117
first: 2018-09-03
most recent: 2018-09-03
sittings or episodes: 1
sources: podcast

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“No, and they're very hurt by your happiness with them. That's the worst part when you deal with them. I will get calls sometimes when I write something by any of them. And they're like very hurt by what you wrote. I'm like, oh my God.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Giants and it's a real it's really funny too. I've had some very funny interviews. Yeah, it's funny. You're very funny. I do like you slapping on Facebook a lot. I'm always enjoying that. I know it bugs them. That's good to know.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That dresser hadn't come out. That dresser had come out right away. We would not be sitting here. No, I think we might be. And I got to tell you, I recommended it. It's at Sleeping Giants, right? Yeah”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I did. It did with a dresser that I kid. That dresser hadn't come out. That dresser had come out right away. We would not be sitting here.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Starts with a discussion. And I think we'd like overall to be in the center of that discussion, at least organizing that and to have people talking about it. And we've been talking to other people about some digital solutions to things, which are really intriguing. But yeah, we'd like to be a source of...”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To talk about these issues and have a discussion. I mean, I don't know if any answers are going to come out. They're really hard answers to get to.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Automates. Yeah, if we can be start to become the conscience of the social media communities and of advertisers, that'd be a great place to be.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We've been whacking at the leaves for a long time, and it's time to work on the roots a little bit. Right, right. We need some corporate accountability for how ad dollars are spent and some responsibility on where the investments are going. And I think it's a story to just keep talking about because people don't hear about it a lot. It's everything so automated now that people don't think about it that much. And so if we can just be like the conscience of a lot of our greatest...”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I think the next step I'm in the early stages of thinking about doing a conference. And not showing up at one, but actually, because I think.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Broad guys did. Yeah, I mean, I think we've got a sizable community now, and they've all got good ideas, and they want to make their voices heard. And so we have more of a voice. You get more people and it's exponential. You get more people's opinions out there. And if they have a problem with something, then if you have 200,000 people, it's a lot better than having two people.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it sucks. And it's, again, it's all in bad faith. It's trying to scare someone from doing something. But ultimately, this thing is not about me. Right. It's about the community. If I stop running it tomorrow, it's still going to go on without me and without Nandini. And the other few people that are doing this.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so those are threats, clearly. And it took Breitbart. I went right at Joel Pollock, who runs Breitbart, one of the people who runs it. I said, if you're... If you're going to leave this up, why don't you put your kids' synagogue on there too? And it came down four days later, but they left it up for a good long time.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, look, you can either run. Yeah, you can run away from it and hide, or you can just run right at it. And for better or worse, I just like, all right, I'm going to run right at it and just see what happens.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're taking all this money from people that do, and we've got a political thing. And I think they were like, you ready for this? It's a guy that's concerned about hate. And that was it. How did you respond?”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Myth that had built up around that I think maybe they were, they thought, oh, we're going to nail this person. He's going to be connected to a global conspiracy and that, you know,”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it doesn't matter. It doesn't matter. I mean, maybe if they wanted to find out if I was being funded by someone, I think because of that whole, the sort of.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then he hid my wife up on Facebook. And yeah, no, he's a reporter. And, like, look, if. It was pretty interesting detective work, I'll say. I'll admit to that. But it was in bad faith, I think, overall to sort of expose me. And I think.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To be polite. And also kind of on the same track as Breitbart. They say a lot of things that are pretty bigoted. But again, we haven't, we weren't going after them or anything. We haven't contacted any advertisers on there or whatever. But yeah, and got a text from this reporter and I knew right away that something was going to come out. And then he sent two emails to personal emails that aren't.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Matters enough about you. No. I mean, it would be great if they did. I love to make a serious paycheck for this, but that's not happening.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, we don't have any. We have merch money. Merch money. If someone wants to buy a t shirt, we'll take your money. But that's it. Right.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and also there was some stories that had been built up. Of course, they're going to drop the George Soros thing on you. Oh, right, you're really a media matters person and all that stuff, which I always found comical because.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Kind of erased all evidence that But he's actually been good Right, right. Just in general terms, not in specific terms. It's good. Yeah. What are they scared of? And so you got unmasked. Explain that. So you weren't known who you were. You were this person.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Doesn't really kind of erase all evidence that we had talked before, but he's actually been good lately and we're trying to like meet at some point to discuss things. Right, right. Just in general terms, not in specific terms.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. Actually, one of our, I'm not going to mention his name, but one of our early sort of supporters, it was retweeting a lot of stuff we were doing, ended up going to work there.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know how to explain it. There's a football field. They will air list the billboard in next thing. No, because I'm sure they have machine guns somewhere. Okay, we're definitely not going to do that. No, don't do that. Don't drone them. Don't drone them. That'll be bad. No, no, no. No, he's got an arm, a drone armor. Everything hopefully is in Star Wars and the Death Garl.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's hard. I haven't been out there. They live in, it's like a terrarium. I don't know how to explain it. It's just a terrarium. There's actually, there's a roof of ground. There's a football field. Maybe we'll airlift the billboard in next day. No, because I'm sure they have machine guns somewhere. Okay, we're definitely not going to do that. No, don't do that. Don't drone them. Don't drone them. That'll be bad. No, no, no. No, he's got an armor drone armor. Everything hopefully is in Star Wars and the Death Star. All those little things will pop out.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we're sitting on a couple, we got like maybe 10 grand in merch money, but we're going to plug it into whatever we do next. We're not going to pay actions. These actions are checked.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then we did one outside of Facebook, and nothing happened with that either. But it was a try, and we took a big cut at it and spent.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It said Amazon, please stop supporting hate on Breitbart or something like that. And driving around Seattle. And they drove it around Seattle. It was awesome. It was cool. But nothing happened. Those guys are a locked box.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So we're all determined not to take any money for this. And so we've made a decent amount of money on merch, but we're going to pour it back into other things we've done. We did a billboard, a mobile billboard outside of Amazon, because Amazon's the last remaining big advertiser on Breitbart. So we asked them to do it. That didn't work, of course.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Someone opened the EU Sleeping Giants EU and we said, wait, you can't do that. And he said, well, I'm actually this guy that's been on your feed for a long time and I'd like to help out. And so we were like, oh, yeah, you've been here from the beginning. Okay, why don't you do it? And that's kind of the way it's been going. So yeah, EU's been great and has coordinated a lot of stuff.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Didn't think we'd have like an international network. So, how many do you have? So I think there are 11 countries and territories. We've got an EU. The EU is really the first big one.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You do it. We'll send you a logo and we'll get you going and we'll support you as you grow. And that's been wild. I mean, for sure, again, for someone that started this on a whim, right.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay. All right. So So it would be people would approach in the early days, they would approach like through DMs or through our Facebook account and say, hey, I'm really interested in taking on a similar thing in my country. And then we're pretty careful. I went through made sure they've been on our feed for a while and doing the right things and had the right tone and that kind of stuff. If someone had been doing it for a while and it made sense, we're not really adding any anymore right now unless it's really like.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They just have a similar thing to Breitbart or Australia. They're dealing with Sky News right now and there are people dropping the N-word over and over again on their network. And people don't feel like that's fair. And so there have made major inroads over in Australia.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It just kind of through happenstance people wanted to do sleeping giants feeds has become kind of a brand and people take that”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But so this again, this has more often changed. It started kind of on a whim, as a tactic. And it's something to inform advertisers. And all of a sudden there are a lot of people following it. And I care about what you say. And they, well, not about, I think what we all say. It's a very...”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, there might be some of that. I don't know. Some days I just want to hang out on the island of Instagram and see beautiful pictures of nature and friends and family.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Didn't plan on that being Yeah, I mean, I'm super surprised that it is where it is. I certainly didn't think it was going to be any more than a two-week project. Right. Here I am almost two weeks. Right. No, it's a yoke around”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sick of the vibe. Detracting from our site. Yeah, start your own site. Yeah, no doubt. I don't care. Like, I don't have to listen to you. Go to Twitter. Discuss. Discuss. I mean, we reserve a lot of vitriol for them. They have terms of service that they absolutely are supposed to prevent.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. In it to make money. It sounds good. We had people on our platform, we took out comments years ago because I was sick of the vial stuff because I didn't have people to monitor and I wasn't adding to the experience. It was detracting from our site. And I got so many emails. My free speech, you're violating my free speech. I said, get your own fucking website. Yeah, start your own site. Yeah, no doubt. I don't care. I don't have to listen to you. Go to Twitter. Discuss.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To be allowed on these platforms and what they think should be allowed on their platforms. And if free speech applies to them, which it doesn't, it's not a legit argument. They are a business. They're in it to make money. It sounds good. And it's also been pushed on them too.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Didn't get to be on Facebook. And I think, look, this is all part of a much bigger discussion on what's appropriate and what's not and”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, right, right. I was arguing this with someone last night where I said they were like, Alexander should be able to be on there. I said, is Alex Jones in the New York Times? And they're like, no. And I said, why? Well, they don't want him there. And I was like, yeah, they don't want him there. He doesn't get to be in the New York Times. He doesn't get to be on Facebook. Like, it's not the same. It's not a free speech argument. New York Times has made a decision as a product. We don't want him here. He's a nasty prick, essentially. And it was real. They're like, well, it's not the same. I'm like, why?”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We're ignoring the fact that they don't really need to be held to any of this stuff. If Alex Jones, who harasses Sandy Hook parents, is on their platform, just like if he was doing that in an Arby's, Arby's is going to call the cops and get him out of there.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What it is. It's so confusing. Tell us all what it is. Even when it was explained to me, I was like, that is confusing. Why don't you just like publicly say why you did? We took it down for this reason, let everybody see it.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think continuing to point out the fact that they have rules and they have terms of service that explicitly state that this kind of language should not be allowed on their site. And they've been doing backflips to avoid having to do anything. Yes, they have. My point and our whole point in this campaign is be responsible, be across the board. Don't make special commutations for people that do bad things because you don't feel like you want to look like you're slanting or cleaning it clean. Just have the rules. Give us all 10 strikes if you want so we know what to expect. But be really clear and enforce them very clearly. If someone flags something.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Business model to provide their stockholders with the maximum money they could possibly get, the highest stock price, is to get more eyeballs and more clicks and more people on their platforms and to do that outrage works and racism works and sexism works. It all works in their favor. So you have to call them out on that. You're making money on the backs of immigrants that are trying to do their best in this country and women that are trying to get ahead despite being kept down by the system and the black community that are just trying to survive in the streets sometimes and don't feel like they have their respect from the government. They're making money off that. And that feels really wrong to me.”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Without people bringing it up. Yeah, no, I agree. Printed that before. I don't know about that. I think shame is actually a useful tool. I use it a lot. Maybe I'll use that more. I've written a lot of columns about it saying, no, you can't do this. No, you can't do it. You're doing it, you can't do it. And I think they pay attention. So as long as they pay attention and they hear you, and they're slightly ashamed, I think it's, I don't mean, it's not a shame in the way that you would, oh, you're dressed like that. You're a slut or something like that. That's not the same thing. There's a role for...”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're starting to take some responsibility, but I don't think they would take responsibility without people bringing it up. Yeah, no, I agree. And I don't like to think of us as a shaming organization. People printed that before. And yeah, I'm not down with that. I just think, but you need to point it out or nothing's ever going to get done. I mean, they...”
2018-09-03 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sleeping Giants founder Matt Rivitz · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT