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Matt Ross

lines on the record: 136
first: 2017-04-24
most recent: 2017-04-24
sittings or episodes: 1
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“All right, okay. On that note, on that rug, I'm not joking when I say I don't remember. We said that's the problem. We consume way too much narratives. All right, okay. Far too many. All right, Matt. It was great. Something awesome.”
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“I told you, I smoked a great deal of marijuana. All right, okay. On that note, on that drug note, I'm not joking when I say I don't remember. We consume way too much narratives. All right, okay. Far too many.”
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“I'm excited to see where you're going. Tell us Luke was just given the lightsaber, and his hand was cut off, holding from the Death Star.”
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“I could, but it's in April. Super soon. Yeah, and I'll be appearing with some of the cast members at an event in San Francisco to see the first episode. I'm excited to see where you're going. Tell us where you left off so everybody knows what happened in the end of last season”
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“Yes. I think so too. And then I just wouldn't stress about money ever Can I have that, please? Yes. When does that happen? Never enough.”
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“I'm interested in, I guess, is it Biomed? Yeah, I mean, I think that there's some, I think I would invest a lot in that in healthcare.”
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“No, no, I played. I'm not a doctor. I play one on TV. The great tragedy of my life actually is that I'm not a tech billionaire. I only play one”
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“I use them all. Like what? Look at Apple Watch Yeah. I would say that I watch keynote speeches. I used to all the time, especially with Steve Jobs. I care about that. My friends and I text each other or email each other back and forth about all the stuff that's coming out. And I'm into it from a consumer point of view.”
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“And so much that I don't like is about performance. And I'm just, I don't know. I'm really not judging it. You just don't do it. I just don't do it. It's important.”
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“Yes, I am relatively speaking for a lay person who doesn't work in tech. I mean, I can use editing software. I've been playing around with After Effects. I mean, I can certainly play. I'm no expert. I like it a lot. I wish I'd spent more time. But social media, I just haven't engaged in mainly because I fundamentally, and I think it's just because I didn't grow up with it, so I would have embraced it older than obviously someone who's 10 or 15 or whatever. I think that I I really struggle to be present And my phone and my computer and the internet in general is enough distraction. And I even don't take pictures of my kids a lot of the time when they're doing things. I try and just. Live in the experience, be in the experience. And I think that so much of social media That's effective is about communication.”
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“You know what I mean? Like you could think of that, like, that you do feel part of it and part of the action in real life rather than just words on a page kind of thing. I'm going to finish up by, so you're not making YouTube videos then, Matt. I'm not. No.”
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“Or could it immerse you? I was just, oddly enough, I was somewhere where Bile Davis was with her husband. What's school with her? Amazing actress. She can go from total purple prose to great stuff to nostrom. Of course, I went up there. I said, you know, I loved, and she goes, I know Vences. I'm like, no, no, no. How you delivered that line, that horrible line on how to get away with murder? I was like, you just committed yourself to the worst line in history and killed it. But she and her husband were working on a VR version of Othello.”
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“Yes, exactly. And then really, in VR, I can go over there and interact with this monster or I can go away from it or whatever it is.”
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“There can be some degree of ambiguity, but I'm hoping to elicit certain responses. I think the same thing can apply to VR, but it's going to be utterly different.”
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“The way I think of cinema as a film or TV narrative storytelling is a little more complex. And essentially, I mean, fundamentally, film or TV, it's not choose your own adventure. Right, I'm making decisions. Hopefully, I've thought them out well so that you are having, it's an emotional and intellectual manipulation.”
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“I don't know that it's storytelling the way I think it's storytelling. I think that the most obvious application, and I'm sure they're all going this direction, is gaming. Because the game world is not narrative in the same way. There are certain action. Yes, it's action and it's immersive and there are certain guideposts like you get to here and then they show you a little clip which just changes the narrative. And then you have to, but essentially many video games are simply accomplishing something, right? You're getting to one place or another. Storytelling is...”
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“I don't know that the theatrical experience will ever disappear. I don't know that it's really in the danger of going in the direction of like the opera or the ballet. If you go to the opera or the ballet, you look around. Everyone is white. Largely, and they're wealthy, and they're 60 plus, right? I don't know that the theatrical experience will go that way entirely. I don't think we're going to be watching VR necessarily in a movie theater.”
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“Exactly. And so The phone, why not? There's nothing. But doesn't have to shift because, again, my fortune watches everything on his phone. He does. He plays games on the big screen, which is interesting, which is also a storytelling in a way.”
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“Tableau. Yes, exactly. And so why reduce it? But certainly a lot of television, which is talking heads, many TV shows are just talking heads. You can watch it on your phone. Why not? There's nothing in the background. There's nothing they're doing with the language of cinema that can't be seen on a phone.”
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“You just don't want to make. I wouldn't really, it depends on the film. It really depends on the film. Some of these things can be faddish or a fad. Like there's a new thing. I know that a lot of telecom companies were making short stuff for their phones. There's nothing wrong with that. I mean, I think that I don't want to watch Blade Runner or Lawrence of Arabia on my phone just because I think the filmmaker conceived of a much larger”
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“They attract more. So they have the problem of all these companies, these TV companies have the problem of having people on the couch, but how do you get them to watch your show? Right. And I don't know that anyone really has an answer for that. You know, scope. Existing properties, something like Game of Thrones. Those are block, that's blockbuster television, right? I mean, that's as”
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“70s cinemas on television. It is because televisions also making things for adults, for grown-ups. I mean, adult films, I'm not talking about pornography, but I'm talking about complicated narratives with nuanced characters. That aren't one dimensional. Jill Salways, Transparent is a perfect example. Transparent as a two-hour film may have a very limited audience in today's theatrical environment when you go to the mall, people just, and I think that that film coming out in 1976 would have a completely different audience than it does today. So I think that she was fortunate or she created that opportunity. I don't know.”
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“But it's not, you can't monetize that. I mean, yes, the only way you could monetize it, the best way you can monetize that is if Casavetes does a long-form television show. And in fact, I think that's what's happening, referencing what you said before, is that I think when you were saying that you're finding like the promise of...”
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“I think that's great because take someone like Casavettes There are probably some people that we can reference who are sort of modern casaveties or aspired to similar type film. That's largely not popular in any way, right? So where would that person?”
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“Created by the foreign pre-sales of the DVDs themselves, or they knew that with certain elements, certain actors attached, they could sell those DVDs and make their money back. Now you really have to think is this a theatrical film? I mean, that's the question. You know, is this because there are so many films that really deserve or should be, not deserve, should be a direct to streaming film, right? Or this is a film, this is a model that makes sense at a place like HBO. So I think the challenge is for whether you're working in television or film. I'm speaking specifically of film though, is what is the model? And that will determine where you go.”
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“I think it's going to become No one knows, but I think it's going to simply be form falls function. So it used to be that you would make a film and there was one model, right? Out to the theater. Out to the theaters, or you used to be direct to DVD, right? And then there was a business model.”
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“In an online or an internet-enabled television kind of thing. So does that change you as a creator when you're thinking about that? As much as you like the movies. People are trying to make movies more interesting, like the Alamou Draft House here, it's everywhere”
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“So is Netflix? They're just starting to. No, I'm saying in terms of film. Oh, film, no. No, not film. Not yet, but they may. They will. Right. It's all television.”
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“I don't know what kind of money they're making. I don't know if it's actually a business model that's supported within itself and its own ecosystem or if it's supported by the larger model, right? They're not now trying to compete with the studios, but they probably will. Oh, they are.”
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“To attract certain talent. That disappears, then where do those people go and what do they make? That's the scary part. I think it will...”
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“Yes, likely, like Ted Hopin. I think they, and I think Roy Price is. I mean, I think I have not met either of them. I met Ted Hope once, but I think they are all really”
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“Right? You're never getting it, but sure. Yeah, yeah. So that's unique, I think. I'm pretty sure that's there's no other company Netflix included that has that same business to sell.”
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“Well, I think some of them are owned by other corporations that have other, I mean, Amazon's, it seems to me, obviously it's a huge corporation. They have a lot of money. And it seems to me that their math is simply, they're creating content so that you might buy other things on their site. Yeah, no, I was talking to Jill.”
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“That's right. Yeah. Which she likes to say over and over again. So she was a pioneer in doing that and was a success. Same thing with the House of Cards people. What is it like for you? Do you go to Amazon? Do you go to Netflix or do you? I have been to Netflix. It's a studio system.”
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“Partially, I do like it. Partially, I do like it because it gives you something to look forward to. And as I said before, it keeps it in your life for a little bit longer. I think I like that. I have no problem with that ultimately, but I really don't.”
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“God forbid they don't answer immediately, right? We are all so exactly. What's wrong? Oh my God. Death, you know, immediately it's insanity. But would you like the Silicon Valley to be like the week-to-week thing?”
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“You're watching habit, it's like everything else in our lives, we're used to getting things immediately now. You call your loved one or you text them, and God forbid they don't answer immediately, right? We are all so exactly. What's wrong? Oh my God, death, you know, immediately it's insanity.”
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“You binge it over a weekend, which I really done once maybe, you know, and then you forget about it and you move on and then it doesn't gestate with you. More like when you're reading a novel, many of us read before we go to bed. So you read a chapter or two. And that stays with you for weeks on end. There's something really lovely about how long that lasts.”
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“I mean, on one hand, it extends that consuming process and allows for maybe more conversation. I think that the danger of being able to binge watch is that”
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“Yeah, I think it's fantastic. But I was somewhat irritated that I had to wait because I realized that it's the only place that I watch TV, meaning HBO, where I have to wait. I have to wait week. I have to wait. Everywhere else, either there for my consuming. I don't know.”
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“Now, there is with HBO That's an excellent question. I just went through this watching big little lies. Which I really like.”
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“There's a new one, you know. Yes, there's many new ones, but there is a new one coming out. But my point is that it's. You couldn't do that and translate that directly to television because you need people to come in week after week and be compelled in some way. And that tends to happen with a lot of col”
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“I'm developing something with a studio. I'm writing three films of my own I'm in the background. I'm also working on a couple TV ideas, meaning that I'm not being paid to do that. I just have, I'm trying to, I'm interested in television as long as I can try and keep it kind of cinematic experience. And there are many shows that do that. But television... I mean, I've said this before. I think it has sort of a voracious appetite for plot It's very dialogue based, so cinema can traffic in tone or mood. And some of my favorite films, if you actually analyze what happens narratively, very little happens narratively. I mean, take alien. I mean, that's basically a monster movie. But really what happens is they find this alien and they have to survive. That's the whole plot.”
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“To put in the search, the title, I wouldn't necessarily find it. Now, if it happens to be on the splash page, you might see it. So I think”
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“And good speakers. And that technology is changing rapidly too into 4K and all this stuff that's coming into our homes. But I think for storytellers, it's just opportunity. If you let go of that antiquated theatrical model, if that's what you're attached to, it's for a storyteller. You just have to be okay that you may not have the same model, meaning that let's look at something like Stranger Things, right? I didn't read any, that was a phenomenon. I didn't read any critical analysis the discussion I was having with it about it were with people, whereas if that had been a film, there would be, you'd see advertising, a lot of advertising, you'd certainly, there would be reviews that would come out beforehand. You have kind of watched it. You just watched it. And sometimes, I mean, it works for those very few, but also I can turn on Netflix. And there's some films that just were at Sundance. And if I didn't know...”
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“Your phone, yeah. So I think the distribution model has obviously changing radically. It's essentially opportunities, I think, for storytellers. I think that sometimes I think I'm like a novelist in the 20s. I'm holding on to this antiquated. I don't know that because I'm somewhat attached to the two hour movie. I'm young enough that I don't think I don't fetishize the theatrical experience. I like having a great big screen. Obviously, that's better, but everyone has so many people have home theaters that you can get a decent experience of a big screen.”
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“Yeah, okay. So she wants to see beauty and the beast. She would be like, but there was an opportunity the other day, and she's like, nah, okay. Whereas my son, I think, still likes that experience. He's also into video games. She just doesn't turn to storytelling, I think. I don't think she's attracted to the visual medium. I don't know. Or she's perfectly happy to watch it on her computer in her bed.”
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“Know, I mean My children, my daughter's 14, my son is nine. I can get my son to go to the movies. My daughter is not so interested”
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“And I've been as a writer or director, I've been meeting a lot of studios, both in television and film. And what I see largely is that in film, that there's a contraction about what's acceptable in terms of investment. And I see the opposite in television, that really they are looking for the most bold, not just in content, but also in form. I think that places like Netflix that don't have to deal with, they don't have to be constrained by the half hour or one hour form. And so they say to you, it's okay if one episode comes in at 22 minutes and one episode comes in in an hour and 10, we'll make room for that. It doesn't matter.”
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“Distraction I think you're right. But that's because, I mean, there are very clear reasons why as Film has become Hollywood studio film has become a global marketplace and they're trying to create properties that fill the theaters in China and Russia. That's created a certain kind of cultural export, right? So if you're making something that's too nuanced or too specific culturally or even intellectually, it doesn't export well, right? So television doesn't have that same Market constraints, I don't think so.”
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