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Michael Barbaro

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first: 2018-06-18
most recent: 2018-06-18
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I want to host the daily for a long while. I mean, I love making this show. I love Way it's helped me reimagine storytelling, and I'm struggling actually to understand if and when I would ever go back to writing again. Yeah, it's been”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Although I find Twitter to be Twitter's a very powerful medium for those of us involved in the daily because it's such an early warning system that something is going on, that a story is big and that we should be paying attention to it. And also, there's just a lot of audio on Twitter.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Cable news is since I started doing that, I used to spend, I don't have a television at the moment, but when I watched more television, I was less aware of how unnuanced cable news is. And now because of the daily, it just feels like Night and day and weird to me.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I think people who listen to podcasts are a breed of empathetic people. And I hope that because of all the nuance and complexity that we're introducing into storytelling, that we're introducing a positive new force into the...”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That shows like The Daily are about letting yourself letting people into your lives, journalists or the characters in the story, the Shannons or The Merriams, the woman from Burkina Faso who was abused by her husband. And it just inevitably engenders understanding. And humanity in a way that I think the rest of journalism is still struggling with. I mean, sometimes we'll grab a single character and quote out of a story and turn it into a 25 minute episode of The Daily and the emotional impact will be so significant.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I agree with that. And from one Egomaniac to the next, let me just say I love the attention, but I think we get in the way of some things. We have become the story in a way that's very damaging to journalism at some point.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They want to understand where the reports are coming from. They want to understand who these people are and how they think. And I think anytime a journalist is really grappling with a story, then you're learning that they take this job really seriously. You understand how they do their job, how they weigh all the various pieces of information, and just how much thoughtfulness goes into the storytelling.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You have a personality, and I agree. I wish that journalism could be never about the journalist, but we have entered a phase, and I think it's a welcome phase where people are curious about the journalist telling the story. For the longest time we pretended that we could hide behind these kind of big tablets we handed down every In the sweeping authority of our news organization. So we were going to tell you a story. And if you didn't like it, I'm sorry. Now, I think people are demanding greater accountability and transparency. I think audio and what you do is...”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The fourth estate came, the people who made the Showtime documentary before the state were in the dailies studio all the time. We actually were really confused about what they were doing. And it turns out that they were in the studio. It took me a really long time to figure this out. Only when the reporters in Washington were coming on the daily. Because the documentary really was about our Washington Bureau”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and was very aggressive, and we would go at it. And you didn't credit my story, and I didn't credit and that kind of thing. And then she came to work at the Times, and we've become very, very close.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I am in love with Manapuzzo. I think he's just the nicest guy on earth, and he and his wife listen to the show, and they are, he hosted a podcast, he did audio work in college, and he is so sophisticated about audio that, I mean, first of all, he just won a Pulitzer Prize. He will come on the daily and say things like this. He'll say something, he'll deliver a line, and he'll be like, roll tape. He'll set it up perfectly. And then. Comey came to the podium, roll tape. I mean, he sort of like, he knows how to set up audio for the daily. Even though he's a print reporter. So, anybody who's that game to work with us.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, because I knew anytime a company merges, I have a policy, I don't have a lot of say over the sound of the show, but I have a policy that we will use the theme music of the companies when they merge. And a lot of companies music is not recognized.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll give you an example. Sometimes we end this show with headlines that are about news from outer space. Twice or three times a satellite was let go and it flew off, and we'll end it with some fun music or something. And we'll do things that”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We hear that a lot. People want happy news. One of the great pieces of advice we got from an editor when we started the show was just remember that people want good news sometimes. And we have not really.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All right, obsessed fan, but sometimes a week of episodes leaves me depressed. What do you think of doing or feel-good stories? Yeah, to counteract the bad It feels almost like have you ever gone to Ted?”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Troop. And she talked about what the response was from her sister and her parents and her friends and her family. And I just thought it was the rigor and the narrative storytelling of the daily applied to children. And I interviewed these two sisters together and separately and interviewed their friends. And I thought it was just beautiful the way it came together. The episode I'm probably most proud of is one we did about the worker in a steel plant. There was a woman named Shannon. And it was just an absolutely stunningly beautiful story that made me and everybody else on the team cry, just hearing her tell a story of what it really means to be left out of this economy. And to lose your job. This is a company that was moved to Mexico. President Trump, in the campaign, claimed he was going to try to save the company and did not.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My favorite episode is an episode, special episode we did about kids. Is the kids' episode of the day the first ever? It was about two girls, they are twins. And one of them is in the Boy Scouts, and one of them is in the Girl Scouts, which is, of course, pretty complicated because they're both girls. But they have an incredible set of parents who raise them to be very independent-minded. And when the Girl Scouts changed the rules and said girls could come in, she was ahead of her time, and she'd already joined the local Boy Scouts.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He was on the phone at home with his voice literally full of black lung disease. You could hear him kind of heaving. And he was so proud of the work he did as a coal miner and the four children whose lives it had paid for and opposed to the regulation of the Obama administration, he wanted to explain why he loved this industry, why he voted for Donald Trump. And not only did he turn the questions around back on me, he did it with so much generosity and grace that I started to get very emotional. And I think it's because I felt that he had exposed this still kind of open wound of the election for me. And he was somebody who very much embodies the forces that elected Donald Trump saying, what do you really know, Fancy Boy New York Times podcast host? And I started to cry interview.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, so this was an episode we did with a coal miner in I think it was in Kentucky. Anyway, it was an interview that really threw me. For all the reasons I talked about before, which was After the election feeling vulnerable, I think I successfully buried that for a while. And then we interviewed this coal miner. And the coal miner turned the questions around on me.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, we wanted it to be real and not like an anchor. And that's why when we started the show, we kept a lot of these quirky little tidbits because we wanted reporters to be real, we wanted me to be real. And So we just said this is not going to be a voice of God show, and I'm not going to narrate anything If you listen carefully, one of the quirky things about the daily is I don't ever by and large. Tell a story on the daily. The story is told through the questions. So, the questions have to contain the right information so that you are being told the story through pure question and answer, rather than me interjecting the way maybe an NPR host might and telling the story in my own voice to fill in the gaps, which is why that Google Doc system we have is so important.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The daily wishes we could be more internationally focused, but it's hard because there's so much domestic news and it's so compelling. So, I would like us to do, I think we're going to eventually do a long series of stories about China and China's place in the world. What is China up to? What is its regional influence? It has an infrastructure program that's all about essentially creating kind of a dependency on China over the long term. And that used to be the role of the United States. Now it's being adopted by China. So I think we'd like to do a special series of stories about that.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We'll do it, but it's really annoying. We spend, I actually love the headlines at the end of the show as much as anything we do. I just really love them. And I will spend a huge amount of time searching for the audio required to do it, and I write them, and I find the audio and I listen and I log in and I love it. I think it's a quirky little thing we do at the end of a show, and I love hunting around for the great tape that we use.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, that's the headline That's the headline. How do we decide here's what else you need? It's the great stories of the day that we didn't have time to tell. And also, is there sound? If there's no sound, then...”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“She's got some attributes. She's fantastic. What are you talking about? She's the best thing ever. She probably has a podcast. I don't know. How do you decide what else we need to know today? You kind of answered that one.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are, but there's not a lot of as good, but there's still the good ones really do stand out in a lot of ways. But everyone does. It's like everyone has a Netflix show. So how do you decide what else Not yet. In discussions. I could be. Everyone has an Netflix show. It wouldn't be that hard. I think Oprah just going. No, the Apple show. She got an Apple show today. I think, yeah. Oprah, yeah”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think print journalists at the times, yes, they want to be on the daily, they want their story to be on the daily because they want a new way to tell a story. A lot of them love the challenge. One of the highest compliments my colleagues pay to the daily is, I feel like I understand my story better now because I've been on the show. I've thought about it differently. And actually, I'm going to tell it better in the paper now.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I get up at seven in the morning. An example where that wasn't true and kind of sucked was earlier this week because of the time difference with Trump and Singapore. I was up at 4 a.m. because that's when President Trump was talking and we needed to update the show.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So people think we make the show overnight. We really don't. We finish the show in the early evening Unless it's really late breaking news, very rare exceptions. I go to bed at midnight or one in the morning.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've seen them out, but I thought it was because the bar was so low, they were terrible. They were just terrible. Our elected officials know nothing about anything, about that at least, for sure. So what is your typical idea? We talked about that, but what time do you wake up? What time do you go to bed? That's a little perfect.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Senator, we do not sell your information, but they let him keep saying that. And didn't question him? I love that. He's selling your information, just so you know, in a different way. I did like that. I like those shows. I thought it was a really good explainer of what was going on. I think a lot of people thought he did well. You know, everyone's like, oh, he did okay because he didn't melt, apparently. And I'm the one who made a melt the first time, so I was sort of”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sometimes can we get a great guest? And is there sound? I mean, we are a show, we're showing audio. So if there's... If it's a competition, the victorious episode will be an episode whose subject involves a ton of sound. We're such geeks at the daily. We love Senate hearings. We love congressional hearings because there's a beginning and an end and there's tons of sound. And you can have somebody, one of our colleagues come in and kind of narrate it. Up will come the sound and the sound will come down and the characters will come in and out. And I mean, we did two episodes around Mark Zuckerberg's.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, today is a Thursday, so today is a Friday, so we luckily don't have to make a show Actually, the hardest days are Mondays because there's been three days and a lot of news has transpired and oftentimes it feels stale. And also Mondays a day we like to put out a show that's a little more of a documentary feature show because we've had a whole week to think about what to make. So we have a wonderful show coming up from us.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do. I'm going to go have lunch with him, I think about it, because he's into tech these days. How do you decide what to include in the show when there's so much news every day? We just talked about that before.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm going to see if I find out if he listens to it, okay? I'm going to try to find out for you. I just recently got a note that Warren Buffett likes mine, so I'm very because he's now interested in tech.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is there one that I would like to be listening to the show We had a bet about whether Barack Obama ever listened to the daily. We just think it's like his kind of show. In terms of it being a thoughtful, you kn”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I've been in digital forever, so I can't take a shower, essentially, with that. What celeb celebrities have you told that they listen to the daily? Which have you been most excited about? What celebrities listen to?”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I miss the days when you're a print journalist. I don't know if you all feel this way about your career, but in print journalism, if we're being honest, there's the day after a big story where you kind of get to prance around.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From my perspective, is that there's one host. And I don't know how that has sustained itself, except that it has, that it's the last kind of problem we have to solve. We need to ramp up our staffing. We need to get bigger so that we can sustainably make the show five days a week. And the last thing we have to solve is the kind of second host, guest host issue.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't hear the end of the show. In the beginning, we did. In the beginning, there were just four of us on this team. Now we're ten. We all listened every night to every episode because we didn't know what we were making, we were trying to figure it out.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then that's in some sense the easy part. I mean, the hard part is that then producers start building the show. They're getting tape, music, sound, cutting it, and then introducing all that tape. And then the show is being edited anywhere, the final editing of the show is being done anywhere between 10 and 2 in the morning.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we do those very quickly because reporters are on deadline. And our colleagues have been so generous. I mean, a couple of days ago, I know I'm bouncing around, but Mark Landler was on two days in a row. We were interviewing him at three in the morning in Singapore, and he couldn't have been more delightful. And it blows my mind how willing reporters are to accommodate us. Peter Baker is our White House correspondent. He was on vacation in California when we needed him. And he just made time in a hotel room to talk to us Was extraordinary. We try to record by two or three in the afternoon.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know why we didn't tell people that, but I was away and every night, because I was in Europe, I would track the beginning of the show and the end of the show. And we were lucky that there was no news. Anyway, sorry, back to the day. So we decided what we were going to do, and we have to make that decision by around 11 o'clock or noon, hopefully. And then we start to go into a Google Doc together and draft questions and script. Sometimes we'll do a conference call with a reporter just to brainstorm to figure out what the story is so we don't sit down do an interview and they're like, what the hell are you, this makes no sense.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we would have to rush in and make the show all over again. But what happens is we come into the office around 9 30 and we attend the news meeting. And if we have a plan for that day that isn't derailed by the news, then there's not enough news we make a documentary style show, for example, interviewing this woman about her experience with asylum. If there's big news, we just put everything aside that we have that we're making that's not news related, and we just make a new show. And we try to talk to our colleagues all day long about what's coming. And they pitch us so we know that Thursday of last week was going to be the inspector general report. We knew that this day was going to be that. And sometimes we get lucky a week and a half ago, last week we ran a five-part documentary series about Baltimore called Charm City, which we're really, really proud of.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We do. Yeah, Kabina, because we're a show inside the Times, we know what big stories are coming. Yeah. We can plan in advance. There was a period of about six months at the beginning of the Trump administration where anytime we tried to plan, he would blow it up. He would do something and he would blow it up. And he would blow it up at late hours”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because we so quickly became a national show known for what was going on in Washington with the presidency and international affairs. And so it just gets tricky sometimes to take such a break from the big news and the national news and the international news and burrow into something. Seems weirdly off topic.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There are reporters who just are more natural audio storytellers than others, but we are really patient and want to work with anybody who has a great story to tell. I feel guilt because we haven't figured out how to cover entire swaths of the newsroom. We really struggle with culture. With sports, with New York City”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Amazing storytelling. He has a huge energy and he's really playful. And one of the things we decided to do very early on when we made the show was to keep some of these spontaneous moments between On the show There was an episode where Maggie didn't know we were recording her singing. She was We kept it, and Matt will come on and be really fluff”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes Yes. We don't have Maggie Haverman on enough for listeners Because they really love her. Mattapuzo, who's become one of my, I didn't know a lot of my colleagues I hosted the daily because they were in Washington. But Matapuzo is just, he's the most generous.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, right. But the same idea is telling these stories through reporters. Now, you talked about that people being in their ears, like certain characters. Are there reporters that people really like what you bring back again, like characters?”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a nice It's a great way to test things. I mean, the original question about the New York Times audio world is should we do a culture show? Should we do a film show? Should we do a sports show? And the reality is you can really quickly break your back trying to make all those shows, and they might not be that good.”
2018-06-18 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Michael Barbaro, host of the New York Times podcast The Daily (Live) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT