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  1. “Wincom Park is obviously on Lincoln Park.com. It's L-I-N-K-I-N-P-A-R-K.com. Any social media, Instagram, Facebook, Twitter, whatever we are available under the same name. I am Mike Chinota.com and you can find me under that name on Instagram, Twitter, and Facebook as well”

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  2. “And those are questions designed to say, do you really believe in yourself? Do you believe in your thing enough? Is this an idea for you or is this an idea because you think someone else will like it? And if you believe in it to the point where you put yourself on the line, then that's a good measure of how important it is to you and how much you believe in it.”

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  3. “There's definitely over the course of our, I think it comes back to one of the things that we talked about earlier, which is just, you know, it's so important to stick with your gut. And if some voice inside you tells you that something is the right thing to do, the right way to go about something or the right thing to make. Pay attention, you know. I've gotten to know Todd Wagner a little bit, and he told me that when he started investing in a company or a group of people, he always asks them two of the questions he always asks are, would you be willing to quit your job for this idea? And would you be willing to put all of your own money behind this idea?”

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  4. “Which is amazing, such a good album. It came out a few months ago. There's a band called Doom Riders. There's a band called Royal Blood. Judging by the name, you'd think these things are like really, really heavy metal stuff, and they're not. There's a lot of melody in some of the songs, and it's just, you know, really great, energetic music.”

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  5. “If you want to check out some of the stuff I'm listening to, there's a lot more than this. One batch of music that I'm listening a lot to is some heavier rock stuff, which Tim, you're a fan of. There's not a lot. I feel like right now. Know this was part of the inspiration for our new album was that there is not a lot of super exciting, brand new, cutting-edge aggressive music out there. And I do have a playlist of some stuff which includes a band that Frank Turner, who's like a folk singer, did a hardcore band called Mongol Horde.”

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  6. “Yeah, I don't listen to my stuff a lot unless I'm practicing something or trying to, you know, we have some activity that requires getting into R stuff. I am listening, there's two playlists I have, and they're both actually in my, I'm on Spotify and on Beats under my name.”

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  7. “One of the things this is actually a funny one that my friends and I talk about is, first of all, just simple things like expecting people to work harder on stuff. Because I would, that's not very nice. The other thing that's funny is spelling. Emails Like I said, if I'm going to write an email, I'm going to probably, unless it's like benign, I'm going to write, I'm going to write it and I'm going to edit it and I'm going to look at it. And there's spell check and all this stuff. And when I get emails where people... Punching numbers on a phone or punching letters on a phone, and it's a mess. There's a part of my brain. Maybe it's because my mom was a stenographer. There's part of me in my brain that's just like, ugh, like, what an idiot. And I go, no, that's not nice.”

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  8. “I guess the first thing that comes to mind, something that I work on is not expecting other people to do things the way I would do them. My opinion and my way of doing things, even for you and I being people that try, like spend a lot of time trying to be very effective. And by the way, balancing that with things that we love to do as a part of being well-rounded and whatever. And, you know, sometimes you hear things from other people and you go, well, that's so stupid. Why would they do it that way? It's like so backwards and whatever. And you feel like you want to tell them. I mean, it would get to be very preachy. It's not, I feel like my to-do right by my friends and family and whatever, that it's good to just remember that everybody just kind of, you know, to give everybody room to do their own thing their own way. And what I choose to do is my decision.”

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  9. “Successful gosh. I think of Rick Rubin for some reason. I think that there's something about Rick. That we've worked with Rick on a number of albums. And he taught me a lot about songwriting and producing, but also just life lessons. He grew up practicing transcendental meditation. And although I haven't really, I've went to this woman, this teacher that he recommended and I tried it out a little bit. And it stuck and it didn't stick. Like some people do it every day. I do not. But meditation and just focusing inward and turning off all the noise. It's something I do believe in, like, especially if you're finding that you're tightly wound at any moment or in general. Know it's a nice way to just get yourself focused. And I feel like I make better decisions and I'm more effective.”

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  10. “And I would also feel remiss if I didn't mention my wife's book, by the way. Which is although I'm not a big fiction reader, she wrote an amazing book called Learning Not to Drown, which is about a young girl whose brother is in and out of prison. It was inspired by my wife's actual family growing up, but it is fiction. It's not a memoir. It's about this girl whose brother's actions effectively devour her entire social and family life and she's forced to make decisions about who she is and what she's going to do as she finishes high school and leaves the nest. Did you read? Did she get one to you?”

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  11. “Given most as a gift wow. I think when the tipping point came out, I gave that book to a lot of people. I know that category of one was another one that was really that I did pass around a lot. Where most of the guys in the band read Blink as well”

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  12. “No, it's M-A-L-L-L. M-A-L- Yeah, it's about a bunch of suburban kids They're all kind of dysfunctional to some degree. It's a very, it's an indie film in every respect and these kids are very awkward, all for different reasons. And basically they're at the mall doing their thing and there's another kid who comes in and opens fire in the mall and shooting people and stuff. So it's a really interesting, uncomfortable and interesting film. I had a lot of fun doing, we did some score to it. But actually going back to the ninja scroll thing and all that, Joe is Princess Monanoki. Ninja Scroll. A lot of those types of movies, those movies in particular actually have worked their way into some of his work in the past.”

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  13. “We actually, I think that our DJ, Joe, Joe, has directed most of our videos, and he actually just directed a movie called Maul, which is coming out soon on, I think, Paragon was the company that picked it up, and he just debuted it this last week. So it's coming pretty, hopefully pretty soon.”

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  14. “I actually saw a fight club the other day. And I haven't seen it in a number of years, and it's still Yeah, and then on the other side, like being an illustrator, I was into anime. Like I loved Akira, and I actually love a bunch of the Disney films. Wally is awesome. Wally, I mean, One thing that always struck me about that is it's like you've got a movie that's more than half basically just score and visuals with no dialogue.”

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  15. “Yeah, I love, I think growing up, I was really into some darker stuff, but usually kind of plot driven. I always loved the godfather movies. I loved the usual suspects. I loved Fight Club and Seven.”

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  16. “Yeah, it's pretty amazing stuff. That's not the only thing we use. I mean, just so that it's clear, like when I have a keyboard rig and my mine is software-based, I'm using a bunch of stuff by native instruments. I'm using stuff by other makers. Joe is actually running his completely off of a Windows tablet, believe it or not. His whole rig with a turntables and everything is actually, the brain of that is actually a Windows tablet. It's a surface.”

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  17. “Do you want to slow down? You couldn't do it. Now we can do all of those things on the fly. If I decide, hey, let's get to this guitar solo. Let's play, let's have Brad play twice as long. Let's have him play five times as long any night of the week, any show, we can do that.”

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  18. “You could do it. In fact, you could do it as you're playing. If you wanted to hit a certain spot and then slow down, you can do that. You can loop spots if you want to practice one spot over and over. We actually have a part during the set. We do run some stuff, some backing tracks when we play. We try to be careful about that because we always want to be a live band first. It's not a scenario where I think everybody when they hear stuff like that, it's like, they're wondering, are there vocals in the track and whatever? We try and stay away from all that. Generally, it's like percussive stuff and like beat loops and things like that. Again, 10 years ago, if we were doing that, if we were playing a song on stage and we had that running, if you got off beat, you'd be screwed. If you wanted to extend the part, you couldn't do it.”

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  19. “That we could get tight and then move get it faster and faster. So we actually just turned the tempo down a little bit in the computer, played back slowly. And 10 years ago, this would have been impossible or it would have at least taken hours for the computer to process that information. And then you could do it. Now you do it on the fly”

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  20. “We use a ton of different things on stage. The main thing that I was talking about about the performance stuff is in Ableton Live. Ableton's great because you can actually, let's say, if you imagine like in your iTunes library or whatever, you've got a track and you can play it fast order rewind. Ableton, you actually can throw it in, you can slow it down, speed it up, pitch it if you wanted to modulate the pitch. You can mash it up with other things and so on. So, you know, if we on some of the tracks, like we have a song called Guilty All the Same. And when we first started playing it, we wanted to practice it slower.”

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  21. “And yeah, so that's actually a part of our, not only the way we rehearse, but the way we just operate on stage. As technology has gotten, as music performance technology has gotten more advanced, it's actually allowed us to be a better live band.”

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  22. “And also just for anybody, for the techie people listening, one of the things we do that to make those rehearsals extra focused, we actually have everything tracked out, all of the instrumentals from the studio recordings in the computer and we play, we'll unmute anybody who's not there. So if Chester's not here, his voice will actually still be coming through the speakers because it's coming off of the computer. So we use those strictly as practice tracks. And then, of course, we don't use them live, but we have those around so that we know, and we can reference them too, like, oh, hey, Brad, I think that this note, this transition between the verse and the chorus, it's actually these notes. And we can listen to the album version say, oh, yeah, that is what I played. And then Mike is wrong or Mike is right or whatever it may be.”

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  23. “You know what I mean? So there's a balance, a nice balance of things. And whenever somebody's not totally needed for something, we kind of remove them from the situation.”

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  24. “So Chester gets a day or even two days off from rehearsal because of that. It's rougher on, you know, especially like the instrumentalists. It's more time. But in the big picture, it's all a wash because while Chester isn't in here recursing on these days, he's always, he and I are always requested when it comes to interviews.”

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  25. “Artist is the opposite. We, as you could probably imagine, We actually, because we have six guys in the band and everybody's pretty much got families and other stuff going on, we set up rehearsals in a way that we start with just the most basic people who are needed on certain tracks. So let's say we're right now we're practicing up two new songs for this upcoming tour that we haven't played in front of people before. And we'll start those the first day of rehearsal would be with just maybe our guitarist and I and our bassist and our drummer. It might just be the four of us. And then we'll add Joe, our DJ, and then we'll add Chester. There's no reason for Chester to come in and sing if the music's not tight.”

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  26. “Every band will be, every artist is totally different when it comes to rehearsing. I've heard that some groups just get together and they just jam and just play whatever.”

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  27. “Yeah, if it's going to be okay, or I hear you or whatever, let's assume I got this email and we're good. Unless I have something to say, you know. If it's substantive, I will respond. If it is, I will usually spend, if I really feel like I have something to offer, my emails will be, they tend to be a little longer. They tend to have a lot of information in them. So you'll either get no email or you'll get something a little longer. Yeah, but I do that because I don't like to have like 150 emails in my inbox. And I also don't think like every time you send an email out, I mean, I've seen, you know, we've all seen threads where you've got five people on the email and all of them are responding, okay, cool. Yeah, great. See you then. It's like, I don't want 15 emails saying, okay, cool.”

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  28. “For the same reason I love going to films. And I stay away from, I'm not getting anything out of cooking shows and singing competitions and crap like that, like especially the reality shows really, I feel like I've totally wasted my time at the end of watching one or two of those. That's like something for me that I just started just removing from my schedule. Another thing that I always tell my wife she's really working on, and I think a lot of us have a tendency to want to respond to every email. And expect responses from every email. I will delete it. The answer is yes, cool. I would sooner delete the email.”

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  29. “I watch almost no TV I do love movies. I love going out to movies. I find it a more inspiring and rewarding experience than television for some reason a lot of TV, you know, barring the more series-based stuff. Like I love Netflix as well. And I love House of Cards.”

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  30. “Your workflow during and while you're working, or even the things you choose to do when you're not making you the way you eat, is that affecting how you feel during the day to do your work or your creative stuff or have fun and all of that. I mean, I find that for myself personally, I don't watch, I barely watch any TV.”

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  31. “One thing that I, and I believe that, by the way, kudos to you because one of the ideas from, I think it was from the four-hour work week that occurred to me, I don't know if it was because it was literally in the book or just the book kind of inspired this thought, just in a broad sense looking at the things that you do every day that actually are making you better. Whatever that might mean And the things that you need versus the things you don't really need. That could be in the way you handle your emails. It could be the things that you choose to read up on your computer or iPad or whatever before you, you know, when you're not working.”

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  32. “We're rehearsing right now. We are going out on a US tour with 30 seconds to Mars and AFI. It's called the Carnivores Tour, and we'll be out from August to September, about six weeks.”

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  33. “Yeah, 3D printing And I most recently, my wife actually got me for our anniversary. She got me like a camera drone quadcopter. It's by DJI. It's called a Phantom Vision Plus. And I've been playing with that lately. And that one's actually really the connection for me is just really easy. It's like I love, first of all, it's just really relaxing to do. But second, I'm filming stuff with this drone and I film like I'll film our rehearsals or I'll film stuff as we travel and stuff. And that stuff is just really fun to do.”

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  34. “Got it. It's a really nice book. There's a lot of great information in there. And one of the things that he stresses is to benchmark what you do, not against your immediate peers or your immediate competition even in your category, but compare it to things that have nothing to do with your thing. If you're a music maker, there's no reason you shouldn't say, well, can I get great ideas from people who make cars? People who make shoes, people who make apps, people who make cooking utensils, whatever it may be, you could have a great idea based on something that's so foreign to your thing. So with that said, like, I've been getting two things that really excite me, but I don't know how they might inform what I do. It may be musical, it may be kind of like the visual aspect of how we present our music, but I love 3 printing.”

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  35. “You know, I mean, you know from our conversations that I love experimenting with new toys, new technology. I love reading. I tend not to read a lot of fiction. I've read your books. I love books like the Tipping Point and Blink, etc. as well. One book that I read that speaks to the answer of this question is a book called Category of One. By Joe Calloway, and it's about finding ways to make what you do stand out.”

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  36. “And I had already kind of picked the tempo and I had said, What if we do like a halftime kind of almost like a more of a hip hop or classic rock groove? Drum loop type of thing. And I don't remember what the reference points might have been or whatever. But the main thing was that Rob, I said, just play and as you play, I'm going to like give you suggestions about where the hits might be or whatever. And it immediately started coming together. It was like within a few minutes, you could tell this is the best groove for this song. It's totally making the song better.”

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  37. “I really liked it. At the time, though, we were deciding the arrangement of the song, which means like what do the other instruments play? What other instruments are on it? And one of the main things that was a make or break element was the drum. At the time when I wrote it, there were no drums. And so I kept putting different things over it. I put programmed loops. I'd write live loops. I kept trying all these things on at faster and slower templos and all this stuff. And it just, every time I put something on, I could just tell it was kind of ruining the song. It just wasn't very good. It was like a B or a B+. And I knew the song had potential to be really great. So it did take us a long time to just stumble upon. The right thing, and it was a time when I was in the studio with our drummer Rob.”

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  38. “And there's like a string thing, and I added some, I was singing vocals over it. And the whole chorus was there. The melody of the verse was there. And that was like within an hour, I knew there was something to that song. There are other songs that we've done where they take a lot of work. I mean, over the course of nine months, They might come closer to sounding done and then be start to get boring or start to materialize and then fall apart once you add something. Our newest, we're about to put out a single called Final Masquerade. File masquerade is a song that early on the chorus of the song, like the piano. Chords of the song and the vocal were there from an early point. And I knew, listening to the chorus of the song and the progression and the verse that song is going to be really good.”

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  39. “So if it's on the shorter and if a song just kind of like, let's say a song appears and it's just magically great in a matter of a couple of weeks, it goes from the first notes played to something that just sounds awesome. Usually in those cases it's because the melody and the melody of the music and the vocals have kind of arrived at the same time or similar time. In a rap song off of the Fort Minor album, the song Where'd You Go? Came up that way. It was like I was playing the piano part. I sang the chorus. I said, that's what the song is. I put a drumbeat to it. I wrote the lyrics to it and it was done. It was really just a couple of weeks. Similarly on a Lincoln Park song called”

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  40. “And I was talking to their people going, like, how is this even possible? And they're like, oh, you know, it's like we do this, we do that. And I'm just like, this is crazy. You know, I don't even. As a songwriter, an artist, I've definitely relate more to the producers on that track than the person who sings it, but I don't even know if I'd be able to call myself an artist personally if I was the one just showing up for, you know, say 25 minutes and the song was done. But also because that's my interest and my skill set and whatever, that's what I love to do. With all that said, I want to master as many versions of making a song as I can. So every time we go into the studio, I try different approaches. I've tried approaches that come from folk writing and rock and pop and hip-hop and whatever. Like whatever, if it's something I haven't tried before that sounds interesting, I might take that approach.”

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  41. “In hip hop, a producer does the whole track all of the music probably makes the hook the chorus makes basically everything except for the rap verses. The rapper comes in and raps on it and then the producer will make all the mixing and finishing choices as well. So they do a lot more. In that genre than rock. When we make an album, it generally takes about nine months from start to finish to make the album. In contrast, when we were making the hunting party next door to us was a world-renowned pop singers session. And this person came in. Their producers were there for a few days before they showed up. And this person showed up on day one and they were there for about 15 minutes. On day two, they showed up for less than 15 minutes. And on day three, they neglected to show up at all. And the song was actually done.”

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  42. “So, first of all, just from the outside, if you don't know anything about recording music, it bears mentioning that there's lots of ways to make music in a lot of different genres, I'd say, first of all, a lot of different genres have different approaches kind of built in that are not similar to one another. So for example, a producer in a rock for a rock band is a person that comes in. The rock band is writing all of the music and the lyrics. Producers kind of helping them make decisions and help sculpt the sound of the album, and they all work together, but the musicians and the band are really making the song and the producers kind of their coach. Right.”

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  43. “Well, our process is, at the end of the day, it's pretty democratic But it's rooted in individual inspiration and craftsmanship. So when a song starts, usually I usually start most of the songs. Sometimes it will be a very fleshed out bed of music. Sometimes it'll just be a chord progression on piano or guitar with some vocals on it. Those two things are very different from one another.”

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  44. “Even a music magazine is not interviewing you because they love music. That's not necessary. That's not their, their day-to-day is we need ad dollars, we need click-through, like whatever it is that's going to get us that. And if you say, if you have a 40 word sentence that chopped down to seven is really titillating and interesting and will definitely make people click, but it has nothing to do with anything you ever you said in your interview, it's just clickbait. They'll absolutely go for that.”

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  45. “Yeah, context is everything. I love to do print. I love to type my print interviews if it's possible. Luckily these days, I feel like with social media being as powerful as it is, you know, for you and I, if we're in a situation where somebody prints something that they've edited or changed substantially, we can go out there to the fans and say, hey, you guys, this was not correct. And this is how it actually went down. This is how I feel, which has to happen once in a while. But you know, it's again, it's like I don't feel like necessarily the people are being deceitful. It's just realizing that everybody's got their own agenda.”

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  46. “Of my chapter or my story, or what my point was, and so on, and it happens over time. And at that point, you've kind of committed to a thing.”

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  47. “Those are the things to look out for because it can be very convincing and it can be very subtle and it could not be a grade A mistake. It could be like a minor level mistake that over time 10 of those adds up to something catastrophic. So for example, In a situation like, I think have we talked before about that with books where an editor like subtly, you'll be writing something an editor might subtly change a few words. And then another pass they subtly change a few more words. And all of a sudden, you're looking at it, and if you might go back and compare it to the draft before they ever got their hands on it, and you go, whoa, they completely changed the tone.”

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  48. “But it's more about, I think it's more about the subtle ones, because even if they're not trying to be manipulative, a lot of times your partners... Their priorities and their goals are not completely aligned with yours, you know? And that doesn't mean they're bad. It's taken us a long time to learn that, you know, as a band because record labels get such a bad reputation as it is just being sleazy, you know, corrupt organizations. And, you know, they to some degree, they deserve that, and to some degree they don't. Not everybody at a label is trying to scam all the artists. Sometimes they're doing what they genuinely think is best and they just don't, it's not in line with what the artist thinks is best.”

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  49. “I would say for one thing, there are a lot of similarities, whether you're in any creative medium, whether you're an author or a filmmaker or musician, there are going to be situations that are not the obvious ones where somebody comes in and literally wants to just turn your thing into a commercial, obviously like watered down commercial nightmare. But there's subtle, it's really more about those are easy to pinpoint and say, okay, that's absurd. Like lab coats, lab coat scientist gimmick is absurd no way.”

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  50. “It was so absurd. I couldn't believe, like in retrospect, I can't believe they didn't just kick us out of the building. I think that it was like humorous to some of them that this band had the balls to just walk in and like tell them how to do their job. And clearly we were way out of line. But at the same time, you know, I think they admired the attitude of the group. And by the way, they knew that we were very sincere about this deep connection that we were building with our fans from day one.”

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