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Nadav Goshen

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first: 2019-12-06
most recent: 2019-12-06
sittings or episodes: 1
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“Computing More engaging And for kids, in my case, let's say for girls. So it's a real challenge And we come and other providers, not only of 3D printing, come with this, I would say, option to give the education system new learning tools that can really change the way kids are perceiving technology. And I think the more we invest about that as a society, We will benefit from it. In two, five, ten years, my kid will know much more about physics than she would have if she would just sit in a class and read like formulas and whatever. So I think there is a big, big thing that we need to do as a society to invest into it. And, you know, we look at that as a provider. And it's still, you know, it's not a common thing that every school should have at Reader Printer.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, this is like maybe I can use that platform. Tech education is still not well invested. And I think I have three kids. And one of my kids has a make-abotted school, and she came back two or three years ago, and she told me, look at that, I learned how Buoyancy for whatever shapes work just because I printed a small boat and had trial to sink it with coins and my team won. And the way she learned about buoyancy and physics. Was so immersive that any other form of education would not be able to achieve that. And I think part of it is how do you make things like physics, math.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think Yeah, absolutely. And on that, I want to finish up asking how do you think young people, since you're in the education market, what has to happen so people do think about being creative with manufacturing and design?”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's such a center of contract It's not a center of focus. The focus is education and semi-professionals, but it's still something that we invest in. I think it's still part, you can't predict everything, and it's very important, as I said.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I agree. So for me, it's like the Wikipedia repository. You want to have someone contribute to that. So it's a community of, I would say, 3D printing enthusiastics that are contributing and moderating the community and adding more and more content. And it's free for everyone. And I think for us, this is like, by the way, it's the way you were talking about sustainability. It's a way to pay back to the industry that we are part of. Although people say we don't invest much, we invest seven digit number a year in Thinkiverse to make it run. And I think Going back, the future is that there will be content. Like I put my files on Thinkover, and people download it and use it for their own cameras. So there is this cycle of, you say, let's say custom made design. And it will advance to be, I hope that.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, we contribute, some people contribute, people can download it, it's free, and at the end of it, it creates this community of people.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The site where the designs are. Let's say the best way to describe think of averse is like there is Wikipedia of 3D printable files.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the reason that we invest and continue to invest in Thinkiverse is because I think the content is something which is very important and we need to be a facilitator for that. Even though it will be in five, whatever years, I think by having what we call the Wikipedia of 2D print”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So when you think of that change when it's not a gadget thing, one of the big things around it was the designs that were all, and there was fights over designs and things like that, and it was Thinkerverse. What happens to that then?”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I believe that the gadget side of the business. I would say consolidate in a way. And at the end of it, there will be few players that are really investing in products and technology and they want to advance the market in a significant way and make a bot is opting to be one of these.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's one of the applications. But there are drones that can do that, and there are hundreds of different that are gadgets that they can fly, but they will break immediately after. So does it entail something about the drone industry? No. It entails that there are different levels of investment and different level of technology complexity. Yeah, that's really good. That you do that. And I think we opt to be in the higher end. We want to deliver on the technology advantage that we can, and that's the reason you said, like the investment was three years. So you would imagine how much money it cost to invest in something like that. And there are a lot of challenges. It's not an easy thing to make. And to make it work and to make it reliable. And so I think the barrier of entry is significantly high.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It could be a delivery application. It could be, yeah, but it transformed five years ago to have an aerial shot you had to spend hundreds of thousands of dollars. Now my friend in his Barmitzbah has like an aerial shot of his kid backyard.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not products. Yeah. And I think that was at the time, that was the majority of the market. And I said to my team, I'm moving away from being a gadget provider to a product, you know, maker. And I think that one of the main differences to understand what is a gadget. A gadget is a good thing. You buy it because of the promise. You use it once or twice. Or whatever bread machine.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know calling it a bread machine So when I took on board, I divided the market into three. One is, let's call it SMBs, semi-professional manufacturing. The second is education. And the third one, I call it gadgets.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He does. It was interesting because when I first saw it, you know, all the, I hate to say it, but all the men, reporters were like, cool, cool, cool. I was like, it's a bread machine, right? Like you're going to buy it and then never use it again. I know calling it a bread machine and annoyed your founders.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As I said, the promise is there. And I think going back to the way I think we operate right now, the product has to deliver. If it doesn't deliver the promise, then it becomes something which is just create frustration. For us in the market, I think part of it is it drives away people from that industry.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, manufacturing like, I don't know, 15 years ago, or it wasn't centered in China as it is today, right? So there are shifts that's happening within the... Global manufacturing trends, you know, Apparel and clothes are manufactured in a different place. So I think there is a value for expertise, for vertical integration, which usually happened in the same location. Because when you have supply chain, which is very close to the assembly line, it helps. We know that. We manufacture. But I think this thing can change around. And I think”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. But I'm telling you when we have these trade wars and things like that, it is a lot when it comes to technology around You can't manufacture much outside of China, for example. You can't manufacture much outside of certain geographic zones. Where do you imagine manufacturing fabrication going in the next? It seems like it's ripe for shifting.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, creativity and educate engineers in the sales force to think additive. I think that's one of the main challenges in all of this manufacturing, I would say, transformation.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Organizations will tap into 3D printing. And I think going back to the accessibility of it, because if I have a printer that I just send the file to some, I don't know, small shop in the different building, so I don't know what 3D printing is. For me, it's like just get the part. But when I try and I see it for myself. Then I can say, hey, maybe I can do something different than what I have thought before. So all of that, let's call it like.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It feels like it's Yes, I think because the process is so lengthy and part of what we do, by the way, with method X is we enable large organizations to have engineers try for themselves.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I think it will transform manufacturing, like the dynamics of manufacturing in a significant way. I think that's the reason, I think, 3D printing and additive manufacturing is a game changer in manufacturing. It will take time. But it's a game changer in the way”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think for some application, yes. If you're talking about something which is, as I said, like high skill by definition, I think 3D printing in entity manufacturing right now, that's not the right solution for it. So if you need something which is this bottle cap. So that's not the right way. You need something else. But for others, yes, I think something more specialized, limited quantities that requires maybe different advantages that traditional manufacturing don't have. So I think that could change. And going back, the shift will happen. It will start with small production lines. as machines become more and more advanced it will be larger and larger and faster and more capable.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, when you think about that, also that everything's now been the controversies around tariffs and moving things beyond countries, I don't agree with much that Donald Trump does, but the idea of not manufacturing things in places, local places, either whether it's United States or elsewhere. And, you know, most people who have hardware always say you just can't do it here. You have to do it in China or you have to do it because of these massive manufacturing hubs, fabrication hubs. Is that something that can be replaced, the idea that there are places where all the pieces are and therefore should be fabricated somewhere? Could that change?”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You run a production line, you have to run, I don't know, hundreds of thousands and millions. Maybe you don't need them. And then you need to store them. Inventory. Where do you store them? So if you need to keep them in a relatively environmentally controlled place, you need to cool this place down. So there are a lot of around that there are a lot of, I would say environmental issues that by just dispersing that manufacturing into small units. You will change dramatically.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Shipping on the flying everything. So that's also changed. So I think there are a lot of, so when people look up that, they look about, hey, this is plastic and how much are we printing? But I think we need to look at the system, the overall industry around it and how what the carbon or whatever environmental cost that that industry entails on us. And how do you change that in a more radical way, like transportation? I think part of it is transplantation”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. And I think that's, and you can use the same machine to do multiple different things. So you don't need to reinvent and reinvest. So the overhead on what you haven't invest is limited to really one machine that you do and that can Produce different parts and different manufacturing items. So I think that's one of it. So I think that's also important. And also, I think the scalability of it, when you have something which can be spread across different locations, it also helps in terms of transplantation. You don't need to transfer it from, I don't know, overseas or whatever country. You now can make it more local. So I think the carbon footprint of shipping.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think you're right. I think the initial thought was, you know. Now, instead of spending, I don't think it's the actual plastic utilization that is the environmental, I would say, cost or tax, I think building something for a manufacturing line entails a lot of different, I would say, wasted or not environmental friendly materials that you would avoid if you use something which is only a printer that prints what you need. So that thing for moving from a large, I would say, overhead to something that you only used for what you need, that's a very, I would say, very important things about sustainability.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When we think about these things, when we're making them, one of the things I did think about at the time is like, oh, more plastic, more plastic, more things around the world. Now, it was sold as the idea of that you don't have to make so many pieces that it saves just in time manufacturing, the idea that you could, it was environmentally better. There's been a lot of talk about fast fashion, for example, that a lot of clothing is environmentally problematic, obviously plastic bottles. Talk a little bit about thinking about the sustainability and environmental impact of this kind of thing.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I think the plastic use case or the ABS injected motion class is the most common material in the world. So I think plastics still have a lot of place to be.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It depends on the application going back, you know, like trying to generalize, it's also not very helpful because sometimes you'll need metal part. The majority of parts you use are plast”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The metal printing is a combination of, there are a few technologies. You take what we call a plastic that has particles of metal filled in, and then you extrude it. And then afterwards, you sinter it and you take the plastic away, and then you're left with a sole metal part. And that's, for example, another process of manufacturing metal parts through additive manufacturing. And two different things. So that was not, by the way, it's a relatively new thing. So that's it. Or you can have a plastic part and you have a continuous fiber around it. And then what you use, you use the plastic as a mold and then thread goes around it and then it creates like a fiber that makes sense. So there are I would say like”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's say that you can have a fiber carbon material which has a weight advantage and strengthened advantages that taste it doesn't have.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that's a unique and amazing advantage, I would say advantage in the market today because you can print materials that were not.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll tell you what. Materials. Changing completely. Like, you know, there are metals and composites that were not thought being possible to 3D print that are now...”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like education Correct. What else does that's enough? That's enough. That's not an argument. Going back, going back. We want to make sure like we became the leader in education for 3D printing. We now have to prove that we can do the same for manufacturing or small manufacturing lines. And I think by investing in technology and having something which was”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but when you talk about manufacturing. I think it's not chip. Build a manufacturing line is not a cheap thing. Now, an additive manufacturing and 3D printing really changes that tremendously. Because instead of assembling things, you can print it. It opens a new freedom that was not there before because now you can build organic shapes that are in one hand keep the same strength but wait about fifth of the alternative and aerospace And many, I would say industries like that that has a very price or price to weight performance issues. Tapping into additive manufacturing and 3D printing in a very serious way because it changes.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think cheaper is what you have to get to the concept of it. In San Francisco, this is off to the side, but it's a robotics example. They have a coffee maker that's robotic and you've seen them in San Francisco. And then there's a burger flipper that's robotic. And everyone's like, oh, cool. I'm like, well, it's not going to work until people are cheaper right now.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fabricate and manufacture things in a very smaller scale, in a much cheaper way, without the need to create a production line.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, part of availability and the cost. And I think we tap into that by having a new way, a much cheaper way, scalable way, to develop and design and fabricate these benefactors. So again, this cycle of manufacturing in general by having more and more accessible tools to really create and use either production line tools, we call them jigs and fixtures or something that is within the production line, assistive, like an end effector, or something like that. I think all of that kind of goes towards the same vision that you were talking about. At the end of it, we will be able to...”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly. Sandwich is an ahard. Yeah. Depends who for me. Right. But I think that. Know there are so many esoteric applications for that concept. I think it's going back to how do you get to the point where I think the promise is fulfilled. And you're talking about automation and robotics for manufacturing. So two days ago, a team of ours went to one of the largest robotic automation service provider for manufacturing. And they used 3D printing, art 3D printer, to advance that manufacturing because the robot is the robot arm, but the end effector is what counts. And to make factors that will suit whatever, multiple different manufacturing line is still limited by”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm not printing food is like a syringe that you put something and you just so I don't think printing food is nothing relates to what we do right and I think like it's a very far-fetched it's a more difficult way”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I want to get back to the question. The changes in manufacturing seem to be changes in automation is really what's going on. It's automation and robotics, essentially. That's where a lot of the heavy manufacturing is headed, even mining and everything else. But the idea of fabrication is a very different thing, like this stuff we use. And at the end, I want to get into environmental issues around this. Could you print food still? I remember being sold ability, oh, we're going to print food and clothes and this and that. Could you Do that”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Two years ago, nobody spoke about type 1, type 2, type 3, levels of autonomous cars, right? So now we understand that this promise has to pass through different levels of assistance.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, 3D screens were one of them. And they're all correct. That's what I feel like a lot of them, same thing with autonomous cars. Like eventually there will be, it will, that's what you're going to do.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And now we look at VR as well, but there are kind of surgical simulators, right? So that's amazing. So it has to pass through something which is professional or semi-professional phase. To mature the technology, to make it more easy to use, and I would say robust, and then it can move to the next consumer level.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then I put them, by the way, on Thinkiverse and some other, I would say, enthusiastic like myself, photographers, can use that part and use it. So I think that kind of thing will come and be more and more. And then me as an individual putting these files online, that's one thing. Then, you know, the chaos of the world and whatever company you name that wants to put their spare parts and have it, it will happen. I think the reason that 3D printing was so, I would say, well received within the water industry because the promise is a very strong one and I think it's a real one. How to get there, I think that was like every, you know, you talked about VR the same thing, you know, like three years ago VR everything. Yeah, high not.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I give you my personal yield case. Okay. I'm a photography enthusiastic. I'm a hobbyist. I shoot in a lot of old film cameras. There are no spare parts for these cameras that were made 50 years ago, right? So, what I do, I design the custom parts and I print them on my method.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Example, or by the way, if you want something custom buy, cover for your phone. Yeah, something customized. So I think there will be that, but I don't think we are at that time now. Definitely we weren't that five or ten years ago, and I'm not sure we'll be there in the next five years.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think the concept of fabrication Small production and use parts. in the, I would say the consumer environment will happen. I don't think it will not happen. It will be five years from now, seven years from now, ten years from now, who knows? But I think at the end of it, There will be a device that you can use to fabricate and to create something that is an end use part, which means it's something that you can use.”
2019-12-06 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Nadav Goshen · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT