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Natalie Jaresko

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1. “I mean, the question is where are the jobs of the future? How do you get jobs and whether that category of unemployed will take the next category of open positions is a question.”

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2. “I agree. I just fear that it makes it sound like we ought to quote unquote bring the jobs back and say, I just don't believe we're going to be able to bring jobs back.”

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3. “What's going to happen when driverless trust And so you had this discussion in Scandinavia, you have it in Switzerland about perhaps some kind of. National payment, I don't want to call it welfare because it's for a category that won't be re-educated”

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4. “For developed economies. A global challenge, and it's a major challenge for emerging markets as well, because you fall farther and farther behind if you don't recognize the need to educate and the need for re-education basically of categories of individuals who can't be employed anymore in their traditional employment. And so in the United States and in developed countries, you have the means in terms of budgetary to try and do that, to try and provide continuing education to people. But I think in emerging markets, you're still stuck often farther behind just trying to catch up with what happened yesterday in developed markets, when we all have to be thinking how this quote-unquote fourth industrial revolution needs to take us to another completely new place. I think that when you think about just the very basic, I think this is correct, the largest single category of employment in the United States.”

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5. “President Clinton created these enterprise funds on the basis of what George Burr Sr. had done in Eastern Europe when the wall came down, to put money behind small and medium-sized business, and it goes back to my belief in kind of the American dream, if you can create enough jobs in small and medium-sized business, you can ensure democracy. If all you have are extraordinarily poor and a very thin upper class of oligarchs, democracy is going to be at risk every day. And so this $150 million fund, US taxpayer money, gave me an opportunity to walk the walk and actually try and show that you can do legal business, you can pay your taxes, you can be a good corporate citizen, you can employ people, you can be corporately socially responsible in a town, and you can make a change, and be profitable. And we did that. We did that for ten, eleven years.”

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6. “So after three years, and it was the Clinton administration, I looked to see what kind of positions I might be able to get in Washington. I was very interested in serving the National Security Council at the time. That didn't happen, and I thought going back to sit in four walls. Wasn't really going to be what was good for me. I wanted to continue to make change there. And diplomacy had a limiting timeframe of effectivity. Ukrainian government officials learned to talk the talk. You talk about freedom, privatization, markets, and they'd nod their heads and they'd agree with you and things weren't changing fast enough. And maybe I'm an impatient Chicagan. And so then...”

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7. “My dad was shocked that I went back. He kept saying, you know, we left. And I can imagine your family would have a similar perspective. We left there. We had freedom. What are you going back for? And I said, you know, to help them get that kind of freedom. I feel a sense of duty.”

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8. “I mean, there were always good things, by the way, but he was a Reaganite, in essence, you know, the less, the better And I came out of graduate school with a lot of debt and took a very low salary as a GS, I don't know, seven or something. So he was disappointed. But over time, he understood that it was what it really was my passion. And when I had the opportunity to go to the embassy, I was a civil servant. I was not a foreign service officer. So Bob Zelleck was able to break the rules because we opened all these embassies simultaneously and we didn't have enough language qualified people. People could speak Uzbek tagmen Kazakh, Russian to go to staff all these embassies. And so here I was a Ukrainian speaker, an economist, State Department civil servant, so he sent me out there.”

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9. “Yeah, accountant or lawyer, but you know, government, you know, for my dad. Big government government was a bad thing coming out of the Soviet Union. So he didn't really like that I was focused on these issues.”

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10. “He was very cynical, so he wasn't certain that anything would change. And my father wanted me, you know, I was already kind of going against my father's wishes, going into public service.”

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11. “One central power to deal with. And the end of the Soviet Union came peacefully in Ukraine, not a single shed of blood, not a single... person harmed, and so it was an extraordinary positive moment.”

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12. “So when the wall came down in Germany and Eastern Europe it was hopeful, but again I was raised thinking that the Soviet Union would never fall apart, that it was just such an evil empire and that the security was just so tight that perhaps they'd give up East Germany, perhaps they'd give up Poland or Romania or Bulgaria or Czech Republic, but never the boundaries of the Soviet Union. And so when that happened at the end of 1991, that was an extraordinary feeling. And, you know, as a public policy, wonk, it was also interesting to watch how the Bush administration dealt with that because, you know, there was a speech that the president, Senior Bush, gave in Kiev, kind of trying to tell people to calm their nationalist proclivities, because he was afraid, as many were, that having multiple countries to deal with would be more complicated than having one.”

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13. “Interestingly enough, I did travel, but it was typically Moscow, and you can imagine why, but Kazakhstan, because we were interested in developing relationships with our oil companies in Kazakhstan even back then, Jim Baker could see it, what the potential was. We traveled a lot to Kyrgyzstan because there was a leader there, Mr. Akhaev, who impressed the United States with his democratic philosophy. But we had no relationship with Ukraine, and for the most part Ukraine was a closed because of its role in the military, it was closed to foreigners for the most part. And so I had never been there, no, during that entire time, I never set foot in Ukraine. I had one trip at the very end where I was blessed to go to Yalta to Crimea, and raised as Ukrainian, I always believed Crimea was part of Ukraine, as I believe it is today, and that was the only time I had been in Ukraine before.”

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14. “He was putting together the first tax treaties with the Soviet Union. We were developing the first bilateral investment treaties. We were having customs exchanges to try and build some type of mutual understanding in areas where we could. And that was extraordinary. It was under the Bush senior. Administration Then I moved to be an advisor on the region to the Economics Bureau from there, and my boss's boss was Bob Zellek at the time. He was under secretary.”

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15. “and there was something called the Office of Soviet Union Affairs, and because Gorbachev had just announced pedestrika and glossnost, we started an economic relationship with the Soviet Union for the first time. We always had a human rights where we were fighting for dissidents and we were fighting for the Jewish rights and for Jewish immigration. We always had nuclear power discussion with the Soviets, but we had some cultural, but we never had an economic relationship. So when I got went into the State Department, it was this new office led by John Herbst, now Ambassador Herbst, who's at the Atlanta Council.”

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16. “I think right now Europe has so many challenges that I'm not sure that the trade agreement will be the first. It'll be a disappointment, I think, for Europeans generally. But I think Brussels is Very, very engaged in a couple things. Number one, what Brexit will be, what it won't be, what it will cost and whom it will cost. To the far right and the populist unfortunate candidates in many of the upcoming elections and what that means to the future of the EU. And then lastly, but obviously not least is the refugee problem, which is not new. It's not based solely on Syria, but it's getting worse. Clearly.”

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17. “And we ought to be looking at how to educate people for the next generation into the new generation of jobs rather than closing off from the innovation, the technology, the trade, the opportunities. And so I think it appears simple, and I know it's very sellable, both here and abroad. But I also live in a country that had a revolution in order to sign a European Union deep and comprehensive free trade agreement. Free trade with the European Union is not membership, but free trade gives you such an opening and such a relationship. And so for me, free trade is very, very important. It's a disappointment.”

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18. “I think it's a terrible shame. I mean, I think the United States of America is a Any country in the world is benefited from open trade, from global trade, and I think it's a real shame that protectionism is becoming the name of the game, both here and abroad. I think it's a big mistake. I think what people are blaming trade agreements, people are blaming global trade for what really is, you know, a change in technology and a change in the types of jobs that are going to be available.”

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19. “On and off, certainly when he was in the White House I didn't have much contact with him, but later yes, and now even much more so.”

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20. “Yes, but I still didn't believe the Soviet Union would collapse. I applied to law schools. And then I got this letter, inviting me to apply for a dual program at the Kennedy School Government at Harvard, along with the law school, and I thought that's really, really fabulous idea. And so I went to the Kennedy School, ended up not going to law school. And then from there onto the State Department, my professor was Richard Haas, which was why last night was so funny when he spoke here at the Council on Global.”

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21. “And my father's very practical, so he insisted I study a profession accounting. On the side I studied political science and he didn't notice as long as I kept bringing good grades home. He didn't notice.”

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22. “It is. It's natural, and it makes you to some extent believe even more so in the American dream, the American miracle, the American mission. But in my case, I was able to take it and apply it overseas in the land of my ancestors.”

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23. “extraordinary on the banks of the river and there's a huge fortress built I don't remember whether it's 16th or even earlier century it's absolutely stunning”

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24. “We were raised because my father came out of the Soviet part of the former Soviet Union. He did never expect it to end. So what he wanted was for his children to be the best possible American citizens, to have the best possible education and integrate into the United States of America. He was so thrilled to be in the United States, so grateful. My father ended up serving in the U.S. military in the Korean War. And so we were raised being very American, but at the same time with all of the Ukrainian heritage because my grandparents didn't speak English. They were here. We went to Ukrainian school here in the city on Saturdays and had the church and were raised steeped in the history and the culture.”

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25. “So both of my parents are from Ukraine, and both of them fled in different ways during World War II. My father was from the Soviet part of Ukraine and fled from Stalinist Soviet Union, ended up in a displaced persons camp in Germany. My mom actually was born in Germany because her mom was an Asterbeiter or a Ukrainian who was taken to work by the Nazis, and my grandmother gave birth to my mom in Germany, but also they ended up in these displaced persons camp and they were blessed from the displaced persons camps to be able to emigrate to the United States of America. There were many cases where people like that were sent back to the Soviet Union, but the Americans never did that. The Americans let them have a life. And so they met here in the United States, in the Chicago area, and we lived in the western suburbs, but we were raised, there are different kinds of DIYs.”

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