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“72, so I had a deal with the new rules and I discovered that in Illinois the law required anybody who wanted to run for a delegate could run. So therefore, you couldn't control and have so many men and so many women.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Did he read it as written? Pretty close. Then Mayor Daly, when I came back from the FCC, Mayor Daly called and invited me to lunch at the Empire Room of the Palmer House. And we met, we talked a lot about the Kennedys, and then he said, Newt, would you like to run for office? And I said, no, I'm not interested in that. He said, Isn't there any public office you would like to have? I said, well, if you're asking, I'd like to be a delegate to the Democratic National Convention. He said, ah, everybody wants to be a delegate to the convention. He said, how would you like to run for a governor or for senator? I said no, I'd like to be a deleg At that time they picked the delegates in the back room and sure enough a year later, I wasn't quite, he made me an alternate delegate.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I liked him. I always liked him. Then when he ran for mayor, he came to Seattle. We had the little law firm at that time. At lunch, and he asked him to help him. He was running against a reformer. Mary.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I call Adley. I get him immediately on the phone. He was ambassador of the UN. I get him on the phone. He said, I can't talk now. I'm going to the NBC studio to do the today show. I said, well, I'm calling you because the president called me to tell me about this article in the Senba. He said, that's a lot of bologna's that I'm going on the air. And he did. He blamed the president for saying this. He was mad. Did the president say Casey Stangel said whom knows.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, yes One time after the Cuban Missile Crisis, this was a wild story, Jack Kennedy called me, it was seven o'clock in the morning. He said, You know, there's a story in the Saturday evening post in which it appears that I told Charlie Bartlett, who wrote the story, that Adley was a weak sister during the, he said, that isn't true. And he said, I want you to tell your leader, use the term. He said, I want you to tell your leader that I did not do that. Meaning”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had an extraordinary love life with a lot of women and had unfortunately had an unhappy marriage. But they were very, at the end, I think the Kennedys, particularly after the Cuban Missile Crisis, had a different attitude about it. They”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's an absolutely true story. That was typical of him. And he never took care of himself. He died unnecessarily at 65.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To reform state government, he had the highest level of integrity and standards. He had an enormously witty, great sense of humor. And it was a great storyteller. He had inherited some of that politician stuff along the way.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He had a huge heart, and he was a If he was a kind person, Bob Adelaide was a true gentleman, a true patriot. He came from a political family. Yes.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He loved a kid. Bob was much more serious. Bob was a much sweeter, kinder person. One of our daughters had been in a little accident. There was a Christmas party and she came in a wheelchair. Bob dropped everything and ran over to”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Jack and Bob were, I think, very different. Jack had extraordinary charm. You couldn't resist him. And he was very blunt. When I was at the FCC, he would call me from time to time. One night he called me at home. I had three pieces of legislation. He all passed. He said, I'm in the blank did you do that? And at that time, the Southern Democrats were in charge of Congress, and I said, if I can't get it done with the Democrats, I'll go to the Republicans and we'll work it out. He said, I wish I could do that. I said, well, you got a different set of issues. The issues I have are not partisan issues. But Jack was... He called me after Jackie to the tour of the White House. I said, What were the ratings? So I got them from CBS. I called him back, but I said, they were higher than your press conference.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he said, I can't believe it. I said, Well, here's Mayor Daly's number. Call him. And he did, and Daley told him. I said, I asked you. You told me you were not going to run, so we made a commitment. And Adley said, well, Mrs. Roosevelt, Mrs. Roosevelt, I said, it's not going to happen. But he went down still hoping, I think.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Of being president? I think anybody who runs for president loses never gets over it. I think it's in the system. I don't think you ever really recover. I had told him at the Democratic Convention I had a very good friend who worked for Kennedy and a very good friend who worked for Johnson. They each gave me their delegate counts the night before. And I went to Adelaide and he had a little bungalow at the Beverly Hills Hotel and the room was very crowded. I said, I'd like to talk to you alone. We went to the bathroom. I said, here's the delicate counts. And I said, look at Illinois. Illinois's voting for Kennedy”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I said to myself, What have I done? So at that point when I got home, I called Adelaide and told him the whole story from the beginning to end. He said, you did exactly the right thing. He said, I would have been very offended. And besides, he should pick his own secretary of stink. And then desire tell Jack. So I call Hyannis. Jack hadn't arrived yet, but I got Bob. And I told him the whole story. And he listened and he didn't say much. He said, okay, that's it, which meant they were going to go without Stevenson. Although they asked him that repeatedly, even the night before the nomination. Yes, with the same thing.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, yes. Well, I'll tell you what happened. There's a meeting. It doesn't go well. We get back in the car. They met privately. We got back in the car and I'm dying of curiosity. I said, Jack, did you ask him about Secretary of State? Turn around. He says, You told me not to.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It was the day after the last primary which was in Oregon, and he was flying from Oregon to Hyannis to celebrate his birthday with the family, and Phil Blair suggested that he stop in Chicago at O'Hare and that Bill and I would pick him up, drive him out to Adelaide's farm because we were trying to get Adelaide to endorse him before the convention. We got in a car Bill was driving, Jack was sitting in the front seat, I was sitting in the back seat. Jack said, Do you think I should tell him that if he nominates me he can be Secretary of State? So Bill has more sense than I. He doesn't say anything. I couldn't stand the silence. I said, I wouldn't do that if I were you. And he said, why? I said, he'll be offended. And second, if you're elected, you should be able to pick your own secretary state. So we get”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The most interesting experience I had in politics was on may twenty ninth, nineteen sixty. It was Jack Kennedy's birthday.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I had just become a partner and was just starting to earn a decent living. And I knew Adelaide was going to go in the government. I thought Bill Bartz might go in the government. I said, I don't think I can do it. He said, well, will you help me in the recruiting? I did. Then they knew I was interested in television. And then they called and said, how'd you like to be at the FCC? And I said, only if I'm chairman. And then I was the first appointee to the regulatory agency, the president appointed me still in 1960 before he was inaugurated.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He saw an awful lot of the Shrivers socially. And the day after the election, Serge called me and he said, President-elect asked me to be his recruiting talent, Scott, would you help me? And he said, President also wants to know if you'd like to come in the government. And I said, I can't do it. At the time, we had no money.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And we had a long talk about television. And that's when he learned how interested I was in television. And I was the lawyer at that time for the Encyclopedia Britannica Film Company, which made educational films. I would occasionally send some to Bob for his kids, which they watched on Saturday morning. But Bob remembered that. And then when Kennedy was elected, well, Sarge Shriver and I was really closer to Sarge than to Eiler Bob or Jack.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And when we got to, I never forgot this, but I think it changed my life, Springfield, Illinois in the 56th campaign. We got off the plane And Bob said How far is Lincoln's house for Mary? He said, We've heard the speech 500 times. Can we get back and forth for Lincoln's house before the plane leaves? I said, it's only a couple blocks, Bob. We can go. So I took him over to Lincoln's house. On the way back, we were talking about our kids. I had three kids. He had many, but I had three the same age as his three we were talking about. And he said to me, He said, When I was a child there were three great influences on a child, the home, the school, and the church. He said, Now in my house, I see there's a fourth. It's television”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes. And then the Kennedy family decided that Bobby should join Adelaide's 56 campaign staff so he would learn something about a national campaign. And because Bob and I were the same age, we often were roommates.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Vice President, are you up to me crazy? He said, I'm going to run for president. I subject you're 39 years old. He said if I'm ever gonna get it it'll be next time. So that's when I knew he was running for president.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And Ted Sorensen and I had become friends, and I helped him because I wanted Jack. I didn't see how Eddie could win him, but I wanted Jack Kennedy, who I thought was young, a Catholic, attractive, would be a great running mid. Well, he didn't get it, but it was a lucky break that he didn't. A couple months after the election, there was a small was giving a speech at the Greatiron Club and he invited me to come to Washington. There was a small dinner party, and Jack and Jackie Kennedy were there. And Jack Kenny came up to me and he said, Thank you for helping me at the convention. I said, you know, we called him Jack at that time. I figured he was a contemporary. And I said, Jack, I said, if you're still interested, I think you can get the vice presidential nomination next time. He looked at me and he said, Vice President”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. The most interesting thing that happened at the 56th Convention was that Adley decided to open the vice presidential nomination, and Jack Kennedy and several other people competed for it.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. And Adley had a run in the primaries and he won the nomination. But as was apparent, certainly to me, I think to everybody, that Eisenhower would again win and win he won basically a landslide Adley, we went back to the law practice, we merged with the Paul Weiss firm in New York.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He was more interested in writing his speeches, and he was very meticulous and careful with every word and every speech. Anyway, turns out Kefer entered the race.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Just the two of us. And he said Lyndon and Sam say that if I want to run again next year. I'll have to run into primaries. I said they're absolutely right. I said if Eisenhower does not run, the nomination will be very attractive to a lot of candidates and you'll have to do that. He said, I'm not going to do that. I said, first of all, if Eisenhower gets well and runs again, you should forget about it completely. But I said, if Eisenhower doesn't run, or maybe even you'll have to run in the primary. So he said, I'm not going to do that. I'm not going to run for sheriff in the county and going to the shopping center shaking hands.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Speaker of the House and a woman who had been FDR secretary, I'll think of her name. And we got there, and LBJ was waiting for us in the front outdoors, and his wife was very upset because the doctor had wanted him to get a lot of rest. And here he was. It was like one or two in the morning. And the first thing he said was Adelaide, welcome. He said, we got the three leading Democrats in the country in one place, and President Eisenhower recovering from a heart attack. We're not going to meet where the press can't see us. Think we're plotting somehow to take over the country. So we're going to be up and out at 6 30 and we're going to tour the ranch and the press is going to come with us and we'll be together. So we're there for the day. The day was over. Adelaide and I flew back to Chicago. And he said”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I told him not to run that nobody could beat Eisenhower. It was going to be impossible task for a Democrat to win, but he felt loyalty to the Democratic Party. He felt loyalty to the country. He didn't agree with a number of Eisenhower's policies. Particularly he didn't agree with the Secretary of State John Foster Dulles. And so he ran. Before he ran, it was very interesting. One day, London Johnson, then the majority leader of the Senate, had a heart attack. President Eisenhower also had a heart attack. Adley was to give a speech at the University of Texas, and Bill Blair usually traveled with him was sick and I went with him, and then we were invited to spend the night at LBJ's Ranch. And we drove in a car from Austin to the ranch with Sam Rayburn.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right. A couple years later, he called me and he said he wanted to see me and I went out to the farm and we took a walk down to the river and he said, I'm going to ask you something and if I were your father I would tell you not to say yes but I'm not your father and if you want a sense of adventure I'm starting a new law firm and I'd like you to join me. So I joined Adelaide Bill Wertz, who later became Secretary of Labor, Bill Blair, who later became ambassador of Denmark, and me. There were four of us. And we started a law firm, which... Was very successful. Then Adley ran again for president.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It were first class group. I learned a lot. I stayed with Adley till the term ended, then went back to Chicago to our law firm.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I arrived for work with him just at the time of the, he was nominated for president, so he called me and he said, you know, he said, Newt, I hired you to work with me as governor if you don't want to stay with us. You don't have to. I said, of course I want to stay. So I did. And then it turned out. My office was in the executive mansion with Carl McGowan, and I worked very heavily not only because everybody else was traveling with the governor and the campaign. I've had a deal with a prison riot. I was 26 years old. Nobody else was around I dealt in the evenings with the Adleigh's campaign speech staff, Arthur Schlazinger, Kenneth Galbraith, John Bartle Mark.”
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“He died a young man. He died at age 62 stone cold broke without a penny. In fact, his law clerks went to Congress to get a pension for his widow. He had nothing. But he devoted his life to public service.”
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“Was unconstitutional, and if he had been there long enough, and if he had been able to muster, as Chief Justice Warren later did, a unanimous court. It would have been a Of his place in history.”
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“Exactly. He had been a law clerk, but he was in the Naval Reserve, and during the Korean War he was called back and I took his place. But the chief was a great patriot. He had decided three cases that led to the Brown decision. He had decided three cases declaring that experience with”
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“And the chief was very upset about that. He, in fact, in the David McCullough book. About Truman, there's a footnote which indicates that the chief may have told Truman ahead of time that it would be upheld in the court. In any event, it was not upheld by a vote of six to three, and the chief was very upset about it. But we had a, I was there a year and a half. I succeeded Dan Walker, who had been called back to the governor.”
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“He was a fairly conservative. Then the other one was when President Schuman's, this was during the Korean War, seized the steel.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, we have two big cases. One was the communist case called the Dennis case where people could be convicted of a crime for advocating communism. Supreme Court in a divided vote upheld it as constitutional. The other, of course, was when...”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, we had a funny experience one day with the Chief Justice. Part of our job often was driving him home at the end of the day. He lived at what was then the Wardman Park Hotel. And one day my current partner, Howard Trinus and I were driving him, and he was very quiet, which was unusual. Usually we had a very congenial conversation. I said, something the matter, Chief? He said, a guy came to me today, offered me the job of baseball commissioner, and chief was a baseball fanatic. He had been a semi pro baseball player. I didn't say anything, Howard didn't say anything. He says $75,000 a year. At that time, the chief made $25,000. Says, besides, he says, You can go to the ballgame every day. Power than say anything. I said, Chief, you can't go from being Chief Justice to be baseball commissioner. He said, I know it and it's killing me.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. A candidate for president. Absolutely. And the chief said, it's going to be Barclay. The president's going to go with Barclay, who was then the vice president Well, it turned out it was true. And he tried to get the nomination for Barclay, but the delegates said he's too old, threw it open, and then Adley was drafted.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, the term ended and I wanted to go to the Democratic Convention in Chicago in 1952, so I went in to see the chief. I said, the term is in it, there's not much going on around here. My successor is here. Can I leave a week early to go to the convention? Chief Justice said, Well, you can go, but your guy's not going to get it. I said, What do you mean? He said, I was with the president last night, and he's lost patience with Atley.”
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“Well, it's very interesting. I then was interviewed for a job with then Governor Atlas Stevenson, and he said to me, if I offer you this job, is there any reason you wouldn't take it? And I said, well, if my current boss, Chief Justice Vincent, runs for president and he asked me to stay with him, I would like to do that. And Governor Stevenson looked at me and he smiled and he said, I don't think that's going to happen. I then picked up the morning newspaper and the headline was in the New York Times. Truman asked Stevenson to run Semicolon Vincent out.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“He was extraordinary. He had a long career in Congress. He was chairman of the Ways and Means Committee. He was a Secretary of the Treasury. He was the Secretary of the War Mobilization for Franklin Roosevelt. He was a judge on the Court of Appeals, and Harry Truman appointed him Chief Justice. And Harry Truman wanted him to run in 1952 as his successor.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We didn't talk about it, but Abner at one point thought he was going to be an accountant. He changed his mind and went to law school. I was always interested in law school. We went to different law schools at the same time.”
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“I was in the service. I was in the China-Burma India Theater in an engineering unit. Our unit built the first telephone line connecting India and China. And we were poised to go to Japan when the atomic bomb dropped.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Heavily Jewish, the high school we went to was very important. It still exists today. Washington High School was very rigid. Very Germanic discipline, very tough Milton Shader was also at high school with us. Became a federal judge. And I think that high school, I think Abner and I would both tell you that we got a better education there than we did in college.”
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“But Abner married Zoe. I married Joe, and each were very lucky. We've had long, happy marriages, and each of us had three daughters.”
2016-07-11 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 65 - Newton Minow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I was in it. I think it was a nickel was the highest amount you could put in. But we had very, Admiral and I were both interested in the same girl at the same time. Don't tell me you got the girl.”
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“We were in a middle class neighborhood. Abner's family was on tough times. He later told me I never knew this when I was a kid, but he told me later they were on welfare at one point. Father had lost his job. There was an ongoing poker game at Abner's house in which Abner's mother participated.”
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