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Nigel Farage

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first: 2024-06-03
most recent: 2024-06-03
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“Before we go, little plug. This is the week where the paperback edition of my book, Politics on the Edge, is published. Part of a four-part series now with the other books that I've published, and I'm doing a paperback tour. So I'm going to be doing London Palladium, traveling to Bath, traveling to Edinburgh, traveling to Oxford, traveling to Cambridge. Come along, please, hear me live, talk about the elections, and please, if you get a chance, buy a copy of the paperback edition.”
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“That's the choice that Netanyahu in our faces. In other words, Motrich and Bengavir will not accept any ceasefire because any ceasefire involves accepting that their strategy, which I believe makes absolutely no sense, this fantasy that's somehow through military operations, you can eliminate Hamas just doesn't stack up. I mean, there's no military example anywhere in the world that this kind of stuff allows you to eliminate a terrorist group. But they are continuing this strategy without an end because Hamas will never be crippled through these kind of operations. And of course, they're continuing it with the full support of American hardware, American weapons, American money. So whatever Biden is saying, in effect, America is agreeing with the Israeli claim that it's somehow there is a military solution to Hamas.”
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“Babies on their chests and that infant dying because they can't get Pumpy Nut. But for this to happen in a middle-income country, on the margins of one of the wealthiest countries on earth is beyond imagining.”
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“Egyptians have also got a role on this, but primarily Israeli security checks, and this means that we are in a situation in which everything is going wrong in different ways. So sometimes the trucks get through, but then you can't get the fuel through. You can't get the generated through, or you get your humanitarian staff on the ground, but then the security risk means they have to withdraw or you don't have the cash, or you can't get the road access to get in. So there's all these moving parts happening again and again. Currently, there are about 3,000 children suffering from acute malnutrition. Of children under five, the majority of them are going days without eating. We've had situations Children in their early teens dying flag. I mean, this is stuff where I'm used to in Somalia. I've seen mothers in Somalia walking in with.”
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“It's a very nasty picture. There have been changes. I mean, there have been moments of improvement, moments of getting worse, moments of improving. Again, I don't want to go through all the details the last few weeks. Sometimes more trucks get through the crossings, sometimes fewer. The crossings have to change. But the basic story is that it's incredibly difficult for humanitarian agencies to deliver. Basic support people. Much more difficult than I'm used to in other situations. I was a DIFD minister. I was in Somalia, South Sudan, DRC. In these countries, broadly speaking, the aid agencies can get stuff across borders, but these borders are completely controlled by the Israeli army, with the exception of this American floating pier, which has been damaged by storms. It's all to do with who Israel will let through.”
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“Stepping back again for a moment to remind people about what's happening in Gaza itself. So well over 30,000 people have now been killed. People will be aware that the operations moved down to Rafah, that the Israelis took over the strip that divides Gaza from Egypt. And the humanitarian crisis has shifted again. So another million people have been displaced. I was talking early this morning to somebody who's working on the humanitarian convoys.”
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“And Biden now looks as though he sets a red line, says you won't go into Rafah, Israel goes into Rafah. He says, here's a peace plan we've agreed. And Israel basically humiliates him and rejects the peace plan. And somebody I was talking to on the ground said that for many Palestinians and people in the region, they're beginning to feel that these operations in Rafah almost have nothing to do with Palestinians or Hamas. It's some game between Israel and the United States, or some game just to do with propping up Netanyahu's coalition by sounding as though he can be aggressive towards Biden. But it can't, I suppose what I was trying to get to is it can't make Biden look strong.”
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“And so that, of course, gets picked up by the press. But just, I mean, the other thing, of course, which we've talked about a little bit in the background, is that Biden said that a red line was Israel going into Rafah. Rougher is the area where they're now conducting military operations. And so the White House has been falling over backwards to say, well, when we said that, we meant not going into population centers. Then Israel went to population centers. Then they're like, oh, well, we meant no major operations in population centers. Meanwhile, the operations. And the result is that Israel has been dropping American bombs, including a bomb that sparked this fire, basically in a refugee camp.”
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“Big statesman thing, but it's actually quite modest. I mean, this isn't the two state solution. This isn't the future for how Israel deals with Palestine. This is just get the hostages back. Stop the bombing, put a bit of reconstruction money in. So shouldn't be that controversial. He lines it up, it seems, with Israel, he announces it. And then suddenly Netanyahu comes out and says it's a non-starting.”
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“It seems as though Netanyahu initially rejected the plan, then the majority of his cabinet pushed him to accept it. And then when it's come out, I mean, he used the word in his reaction, and he's a very obviously incredibly experienced politician. He managed to produce the word a non-starter. So, is this not a bit of a kind of slap in the face for Biden? I mean, it doesn't make him look very strong to come out, make us a big announcement. I think it was in this kind of huge room in the White House. This is my big peace plan for the Middle East. And remember, it's not a peace plan really.”
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“The quote from Swatridge is that there are to be no half measures, and his quote is the total and utter destruction, not of Hamas, but of Rafah. Total and utter destructive rights”
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“And the Qatari foreign minister, who we both know, Sheikh Mohammed, who discussed this, this is not very, very different actually from the deal that was supposed to be put together in Cairo a couple of months ago. It seemed as though, because the head of Mossad was there, that Israel had approved this plan, but rather curiously, although it was meant to be an Israeli peace plan, it was not announced by Israel. It was announced by Joe Biden.”
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“And a big thank you to my friend Greg Mills, who's patiently trying to explain and keep me up to date on South African politics and also Joshua Knott, who we've talked about before, who writes the newsletter. And we're getting on now to the subject of Israel Gaza. And we're going to start with Biden's peace plan. So Biden's peace plan, just a quick, quick summary for you. Three parts. First part is supposed to be a full and complete ceasefire for six weeks. Israel withdrawing troops from densely populated areas and Hamas releasing elderly hostages and women. Second stage is release of all remaining hostages, including soldiers with a total withdrawal from Israel. Third phase, return of hostage remains, and money going into reconstructing Gaza. This was brought together in Paris, negotiation between Bill Burns, who's the head of the CIA. David Barnier, who's the head of Marsad.”
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“It's very sad. And of course, it raises the fear, of course, amongst many South Africans that just the structural problems are so deep. You know, people hoped that getting rid of Zuma last time, bringing in Sarah Ramposa, would turn us all around. It hasn't turned it all around. And people go pretty gloomy, I guess.”
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“South African politics because he's taken the Zulu vote away. And so I think the IFP, now down at about three and a half percent of the vote, may be an important part of a coalition if you brought the DAN, this more sort of centre-right party because it would give a bit more of a flavor of a coalition, but it ceased to be a major political force because this election.”
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“So he's led his party to a pretty impressive electoral. Feet. And one of the things he's done, he's basically collapsed the IFP, which was Mangutu Wubutalesi's Zulu party, which was quite an important player in the South African.”
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“And I think just before we finish, just stepping back from it, in the context of what is really a year of elections, a year of fighting country by country, basically a fight between progressive liberals and populists, South Africa is a really important bellwether, largest economy in Africa, housing millions of refugees, probably the most educated population in Africa, the most technologically advanced country, one of the bricks along with Brazil, Russia, India, China. And this is happening at the same time when it looks like Narendra Modi, the populace in India, is about a win. So this is really important, really important, not just for South Africa, but for the whole of Africa and actually for geopolitics in general.”
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“And this was an Indian business family that with billions to play, just sort of taking over whole bits of government contracting procurement. But he's also somebody who's a classic populist. He is rejecting the election result, claims he actually got two-thirds of the vote and that the 15 senators have...”
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“would really alienate a lot of the ANC base who perceive the DA as being a white party, too much of a right-wing party. So all to play for people like me, massive economic optimism if they make a coalition with a DA. Worst case scenario, coalition with Jacob Zuma, because Zuma is a really, as you say, not just very corrupt. People have heard about the Gupta scandal maybe, where credible, astonishing deals being put together.”
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“So they got down to maybe 9%. So it's still not quite enough. That would only be 49%. So they'd have to bring in some other small parties as well. Or they can try to reform the old ANC coalition, which means bringing the EFF and bringing in Jacob Zuma. And Jacob Zuma got 15% of the vote, so a big, big vote coming in behind, and that would push him above. Third option, which of course is the one more appealing to people like me who are more sort of on the center right and who want more kind of technocratic economic policies would be to get... I won't get together with the Democratic Alliance. And that, again, because Democratic Alliance got.”
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“I do the president. So you need more than 50. The NCs dropped down 40%. So they've got three options. They could try to go with the smaller parties, and that will involve relying on the EFF, which is Julius Malema, walks around the red beret kind of proto-Marxist nationalization of mines, confiscation of land, this kind of stuff. But even that because the EFF actually didn't perform very well.”
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“So, coming back to the maths of the thing, in order to be president of South Africa, you need the majority of the votes in the National Assembly.”
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“Add to that unemployment, which is unbelievable. Official unemployment figures, 37%. That's official. I mean, underemployment, people out of the workforce much higher. I mean, it's unimaginable already.”
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“And then the ANC vote, a lot of it is COSA vote. So there's this sort of tribal ethnic thing beginning to emerge in South African politics.”
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“Yeah, although it's a little bit more complicated, you're right. I mean, it's got prominent white leaders, but some people frame these divisions in sort of linguistic terms. So you've got the big, big vote, which we're going to get onto, and I'm sure you're going to explain in a second, which is the vote for Jacob Zuma, is now predominantly Zulu. The vote for the DA, the Democratic Alliance, is predominantly English and Afrikaans speaking, although many of those voters are in fact black.”
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“But even 57.5 by UK standards or anyone said crazy because it's a proportional representation system. So normally, I mean, you look at Israel, which is proportional representation, parties are getting in with 3%, 5%, 9% of the vote. It's all about coalitions usually. But in this case, they're just blowing it out of the water election after election after election until now.”
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“And the story, Alistair, that we're going to get onto now is South Africa, where there has been an unbelievable election result. So the ANC, which has been the ruling party in South Africa since the end of apartheid and which has regularly polled over 60% and has always got over 50%. So it's dominated the National Assembly, was predicted in some of the polls that it might drop down below 50%, but it's plummeted. It's down at 40%. It's a kind of incredible loss. It's lost 15% in the national polls. In places like Kwazul Natal, which are really important states, hammered 40%. So just to put it in context, before we get into the micro details, Give us a sense of why the ANC was so dominant, why this drop is so historically significant.”
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“And we're going to be coming back after the break where we will be talking about South Africa and we'll be talking about Israel and Palestine.”
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“And I guess she gets to do that as a member of parliament because some people in America who aren't following British politics very closely might convince themselves she's a future prime minister or something.”
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“To be a bit grim from it, I honestly do not understand why Liz Truss is standing again for Parliament. She was a catastrophic prime minister. She was a poor minister. Why doesn't she leave? Why is she trying to come back in again?”
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“So your point being that Bristol is so left-wing progressive that actually Starmer will seem a bit right-wing for some of the Bristol voters.”
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“Definitely a real stalwart he was in Parliament with me, a very kind of old fashioned shy Tory MP. That seems to me a stretch to get progressive greens in there.”
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“So, Bill Wiggin is a very, very traditional Victorian MP, I think, old Etonian, you know, very much into cattle farming. I think his father may have been an MP.”
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“The top 60% who own houses in a reasonably comfortably off, and then at the bottom a 5-10% in horrible conditions that labour should really be focusing up.”
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“And it goes at this black market stuff to return to something we often talk about is again an argument for cash. I mean, one of the problems is that people are in poverty, have a lot of different needs, and they're being forced sometimes to sell food, to get cash, to get some other desperate needs that they have to face, housing, clothing, etc. access to healthcare. So the problem is that we have a welfare state that is not working in the way that it would in obviously Scandinavia, Netherlands, etc. And I'd like to see Labour say, that's where we're going. And this isn't, I'm afraid. You know, I understand why they're doing free school meals, but it isn't really about free school meals. It's about saying here are millions of people in our country. And it's getting away from what Labor wants to say, which is a problem the country is the top 1% against the bottom 99. In some ways, it's saying the problem the country is actually”
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“Here's another one I would love to see Kir Starmado, and I have no idea why he doesn't do it. I'd love to see him say, this is a government that is going to deal with the disgraceful, shameful conditions for the most vulnerable. Our prisons are disgusting, filthy, violent, kind of inhumane. Homelessness is a disgrace. The very poorest people, let's say, you know, the bottom, 5-8% in our country are living in very, very horrible conditions. What we will do as labor is we are going to focus on the most vulnerable. And I think, yeah, okay, maybe that's not a big vote when with a daily mail, but I think it's on brand, it's compassionate, something that people could get behind. I've no idea why Starman's not doing that.”
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“Exactly. So let's just run through some of the things that really could be being talked about. They could be talking about how we could get closer to Europe, do something like a customs union, transform our trade and our security policy. They could be talking about adult social care, which is a disgusting disgrace in this country. They could be talking about a wealth tax, which would make a huge difference to the revenue that comes in.”
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“I'm tempted to vote libdem. I have voted libdem in the past, right? I look at this stuff. I'm like, oh, for goodness sake, I can't really bear to go into the opinion polls. I might actually begin. Tracking towards a more serious part”
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“Yeah. Although, actually, I mean, if we look at things like Cheltenham, where my friend Alex Chalk is defending a small... That would help big Remain voting seat. I think, and this is why. They're completely failing to produce serious, credible national policies. There's Kir Starmer in black and white looking very serious, very prime ministerial, and there is Ed Davy falling three times off her paddleboard and waving his hands around. And I think if you're looking at that squeezing, why are 30% of Lib Dem voters this week going to Labour, which is nearly the double the number last week? I think it's that you're beginning to think oh, for goodness sake, you know, someone like me, for example.”
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“And you're complete right, that's number one. Number two is they've made this bizarre decision not to talk about Brexit when the other two parties aren't talking about Brexit.”
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“My question with there, Davey is he really managing to use these moments to cut his policies too? And I'm not sure he is.”
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“Ed Davy is not that guy, as people will know who've listened to our interview on leading, if you haven't, I encourage you to do so. He's actually a pretty dry figure. He's not a big joker. So it's completely sort of, it's unlike Boris. It doesn't represent his personality. I'm pleased that you say he's managing to get some serious messages in behind, but boy that isn't coming through in the print media. I mean, they're just showing these photographs with jokes. There's nothing about... This story. And the reason I think about this is that I can sympathize with this. When I was a politician, I was able to use comic mishaps, you know, my faking a selfie to then get three million views for my argument for a customs union. I was able to generate one and a half million views for stuff on national service off the back of comedy.”
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“Is that more and more Lib Dem vote is the thinking of voting labour. So, this is where I'm going to come back against that, Davy. I think this is a mistake. I think that with Boris Johnson, these kind of ludicrous stunts were on brand. I mean, the guy, his brand was he was a clown and a buffoon. So if you see him stuck on a zipline waving a tiny union jack, everyone's like, oh, Boris, isn't that funny, right?”
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“But we're not really seeing evidence in the polling that this is helping the Lib Dems. In fact, what we're seeing in our own polls”
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“Then I opened my newspaper the next day, and he's going down a water slide going, yay! And then next time he's going down a hill on a bicycle. And in every case, the basic joke seems to be he's like a kind of sort of slightly incompetent dad falling off. So he's basically trying to replay Boris Johnson's I'm stuck on a zipline moment. And the hope, I guess, is that he's going to get the front page of the newspapers. The hope is that the Times or Telegraph or somebody will show a picture of him falling off his paddleboard with a cheeky headline, and that's how he's going to get noticed. Now, I'm going to come to you because I'm sure you've got a defense of it, but defense, and then I'll move on to what really troubles me about it. Does it work first? Do you think it's going to drive him up?”
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“Well, every time he goes off, he waves his hands in the air. He pops up and down. He puts on a goofy smile. But I was prepared to give him the benefit of the doubt until I discovered reading down that he'd fallen off the thing four times for the cameras.”
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“It's been astonishing, hasn't it? So you open your newspaper last week and you see pictures of him Pratt falling off a paddleboard in Cumbria.”
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“Also positioning herself in Scotland because she's saying that this will no longer be a devolved issue. So people like JK Rowling or Joanna Cherry who are closer to the nationalist movement but were completely horrified by the S&P's transgender policies, the hope is that that may shore up a bit of the Conservative vote in Scotland.”
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“Sister of in the mail saying the conservatives can win this if they go on small state and tax cuts but none of them are talking about Brexit”
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“That's fascinating, isn't it? Because you're exactly right, given that that was what Boris Johnson won on in 2019, given that's what they were meant to be proud of, you would expect the next election to be our big achievement as we delivered Brexit for you. And they're not talking about it at all. And I've been reading the mail on Sunday and the mail. And very striking that their messaging is not about that at all. If you read mail on Sunday yesterday, Liz Truss are disaster is 49-day letters, Prime Minister, now positioning herself as the next leader of the Conservative Party by going to the Mail on Sunday saying it's all about tax cuts. And then today Anunciata Reese Mog, you know, failed Conservative candidate”
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