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  1. Oh god, yeah, that Liverpool phase was like radio silent. I was gone. I was relaxed the thing, like everyone's, the problem with now, I could stop. Buying a newspaper, I can stop watching Telly, I can do other things, you know, I can do, but nobody can live without their phone now. And this is the problem, like, for young footballers that I worry. I like you worry about it because no one could put their phone down for no one can. So any footballers, the same, especially a young player, you know, you pick up your phone for it, right? I've got what's on the diary, I've got a text message. Then did you find yourself on Instagram, on Twitter, or on whatever you're on? And you can't get away from it. And no matter what the players tell you, whether they are, I don't listen to it, they do. They do. You can't get away from what it is now with the phones. Everyone's got one and everyone's looking. With me to get through that, yeah, I didn't watch. I was getting ridiculed. That time where I didn't score for Liverpool was...

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  2. This is something that happened early on in my career, and I was like, no, don't stop all that. I'm not reading new, I don't watch Match of the Day if I haven't scored. You know what I mean? That's the way I deal with it. He's like, you know, that doesn't exist.

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  3. Of embarrassment, you know, because you want to be the one who comes down with the champagne in your hand, you know, and everyone claps you in and your family give you a big hug, you know, and most of the lads did that. You know, they've got a shirt, they've got a cap. Like, I come down to the players lounge after and I'm a bit sheepish. I'm like, sorry about that, mom. You know, it's like you're apologizing for doing the thing that you've worked so hard to do your whole life. So that's difficult dealing with the. Family side of it because I know what I've done. I've put myself in a position to be shot at. I'm sure you feel the same, you know, doing this podcast, whatever you do that's, you know, you've put yourself in a position to be shot at, but your mum hasn't, you know She doesn't need to hear that, and it killed her a bit.

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  4. So, what I'm saying is don't ever feel sorry for footballers. Don't, but don't have to, we expect that. My family, like my mom, was in bits. You know, the proudest moment of my life has sort of been taken away a bit. Because of that Know we put ourselves in the position I'm not gonna sit here and cry about it. It's just disappointing for my family more than anything.

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  5. But I then, you know, I'm so proud to represent my country, but I've got my sister, my mum, my dad, all friends in the crowd. And everyone's excited. You know, they're all talking to me before the game about me potentially coming on and making an appearance, getting the cap. And then you come on and get booted by 70,000.

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  6. Yeah, well, that's devastating. Yeah, I'm playing for England. Listen, you know, there might be an element of the fact that I was my Liverpool player at Old Trafford. You know, obviously a lot of many United fans. But it was during the course of when I wasn't scoring for Liverpool and I was having a real tough time anyway, I had 18 games or I didn't score for Liverpool. And the fact that it goes back to, I felt like with England, I had to be superhuman. It goes back to the thing where, because I look different a bit, I wasn't seen as what an England striker should look like. And I think that was genuinely a thing.

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  7. Coming on, and it's the proudest moment you'll ever have in your life, and your home fans are booing you. I've been in that situation. And it feels like Aaron Maguire's going through, you know, what seems to be a prolonged period of this. And yeah, regardless of form, I think some of the social media stuff I see, you know, ridiculing. Think he's having a difficult time as a player, but I think some of the criticism goes beyond criticism. It becomes. Too harsh

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  8. Yeah, I've seen it. I played in. I'll pay for England and era where it felt like there was a huge pressure. It was the golden generation, you know, the players were the best we've ever had since 66. We had an opportunity to win World Cups. And because we didn't, it felt like it was heaped on certain players and that kind of pressure. But when you're talking about Rashford and Maguire, I think we were all entitled to criticize players. Like we put ourselves in that position. But what I've seen with certainly Harry Maguire, I feel like it goes, it's gone really too far. I think, you know, it's... It's harsh. It's, you know, I'm just thinking of his family because I've been in that position. I've been booed for England. I remember playing at Old Trafford in a game.

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  9. Because it's a highly praised profession, and sometimes there's a stigma on, you know, why are these players getting paid so well? And I get that, you know, there's a lot of money in football. And could it be spent elsewhere on people in the NHS or, you know, people who are doing probably much more harder jobs than a footballer, but it is what it is. You can't change it. But I do think... There is that stigma associated to footballers.

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  10. I think that's a success story. I think sometimes we should celebrate that fact, not catering for making those mistakes that they've made. And yeah, of course, depends what kind of, if it's, you know, too big a mistake. Obviously, you can't condone some things. But some of these players who have come basically with no mum and dad, you know, someone's picked them up with particular player, you know, not had any boots. Been thrown on a football pitch and has ended up playing in the Champions League final. But yeah, he's made the mistakes along the way. But I think sometimes we should consider that a success.

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  11. A lot of the time we look at the negative side of football, but I think sometimes when you see the kids that have come from, and I'm talking absolutely nothing, some of these kids who are now playing for England or, you know, and they make mistakes. They make mistakes in the public eye. They make mistakes, high profile mistakes. And everyone goes, ah, it's footballers. You know, that's what they'll be like. If you'd have seen what they've come from. To playing in a Champions League final.

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  12. Yeah, it's funny everyone, every footballer that's played for England or played, I've played within the Premier League. They've all got a story, all of them. I've got every single one. We'll tell you a story about the player that was better than them that no one knows. There's so many of them out there, and it's sad. But for whatever reason, injury, you know, there's lots of temptation as a young football, especially when you're that good. You know, if you're earning money, you don't know how to handle that money, friends, parties, you know, distractions of all different kinds, attitude will, you know, determination, dedication. There's so many factors alongside ability, luck. There's so many factors. But I sometimes think we don't.

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  13. She is very much like me. Yeah, I think most of my traits probably come from my mum. You know, obviously the love of football came from my dad and stuff, and you know, he was very good with me, but my mum was. Was very good with me, and you know, she was, I thank her every day about, you know, she'd taking me to matches. I remember seeing her, you know, she was the only mum on the side with the barley when it was lashing down. And she was incredible taking me to places. She was like my shoulder to cry on. She was the person that I would confide in. Both very, very good. And a big reason why I'm the person I am.

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  14. Listen, there's a few things that should remain private between me and my dad Let's just say I was told in uncertain terms to not jump out of a tackle again.

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  15. I basically changed my whole personality. When I played football, you know, like I can sit here now and I'd like to say that I'd like to think that I'm a nice guy. I think people that know me would say I'm a nice guy. But on the pitch, I had to be a different person if I wanted to succeed. And that was just one lesson.

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  16. It's a tough lesson to learn, but I think if you want to be a top elite footballer, you need to want it as much as the next person. And I did want it, but I hadn't had to fight as much as these kids, you know. And don't get me wrong, these kids, they're my friends now, you know, like I've some good lads that came from tough upbringings that went on to be really good players. You know, Ledley King, I remember Ledley King, Stephen Mills, James Carter, these boys that I met in the ball court, you know, Nikki Hunt, they were tough lads, you know, from Bow in East London, you know, in a state where Ashley Cole grew up, Lily King grew up. And I ended up playing in the ball court where they grew up, you know. And that's a different kind of environment to where I was playing, you know. But I think when you can hold your own in there and you can rough it up, you can fly into tackle.

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  17. Well, I thought it might be Wasn't no, I didn't tackle. I think I remember jumping out of one particular tackle and I thought my dad's going to kill me for that. Do you know what, though? I never jumped out of a tackle again, and you know, like I say, it is a harsh lesson, but I'm not going to, I'm not going to sit here and say, It wasn't the right lesson. I think it might have been Tad Harsh. Would I do that to my son? I'm not sure. Probably not Think potentially I'm too easy on my kids a bit.

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  18. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So he left me and I had to get home. Bearing in mind, I grew up in Healing, getting home from White Art Lane with an overground. Seven sisters talked to the circus. Oxford Circus Twiling Broadway and then walk home from there. I was probably 13 or 14, but I hadn't been on a tube before. I had, but not on my own. So it was a tough lesson.

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  19. I mean, I think at times he probably went a little bit too far, but I wouldn't be sat here having played for England or having playing achieving the things that I've done, achieving my dreams without him. Being hard on me, I wouldn't would I go maybe to the limps at times that he did? Maybe not, but. Just certain things like I think the harshest one was when he, um, Obviously, he left me At the ball court in Tottenham, and I jumped out of a tackle. And his thing was look, I came from a nice background. And a lot of the kids were playing football to survive. So I had to toughen up. And that's the truth. Was I going to go into a tackle like my life depended on it? Like the kids from the estate around them. Probably not at that time. So, you know, when I got up to, um, After training, he'd gone

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  20. And things just changed. And I just, it was the most important moment of my life. And it was against Gillingham, again, believe it or not. Funny how it comes around. But I chested the ball down and I vollied this ball until I was at QPR. And I knew then that I'd have a career in football I didn't know I'd play for Liverpool. I didn't know I'd play for England, but I didn't know what I'd go on to achieve. But I knew then I'd have a career in football. And that was where my conference grew. And then I thought, no, no, no, I can do this.

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  21. It's a little bit of both, I think. Like when I was like, I didn't know whether I was going to play for England or I was going to be a non-league player. Either of them would have been fine. Like, I wasn't on the map to go and play for England. You know, I wasn't Steven Gerald, I wasn't Mike Lowen. I wasn't Wayne Rooney. I had a different path. I wasn't ready for the Premier League till I was 22, 23 probably. So I didn't know where my career was going to go. So, yeah, there were times where I doubted myself. But then I think, you know, I think I scored my first goal.

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  22. Like my mum was crying, my dad had to have a fight. I was thinking about giving up football. I think he'd say, oh, I'm sorry. I think he would, but I don't think in that moment he saw us as people. It's like you're a footballer on the pitch and you're not seen as, it's like such tribalism. You're just going to have to endure it. You're well paid, so you have to endure this kind of level of abuse. And I think things are changing. I'd like to think they are. We're trying to help that, but certainly in those days, it was a case of get on with it.

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  23. Do you know what? Like, it'd be easy for me to say, sit here and go, oh, you know, the brain, this, the that. But growing up in a football culture, it was like, I've been there myself on a football tourist where you, you know, and I hear things. My dad used to cover my ears and stuff. I used to go to Chelsea as a kid. And I don't know. It's like almost normal. And I know it's wrong. And obviously there's a line, you know what I mean? Obviously, we've seen it recently. with racism and there's certain things that go well over the line but you know being tall wasn't considered you know over the line so it was something that i just i just decided was that was the way football is you know can we change that can i change that i don't think so so i just got on with it um and how do i think about them now i think yeah it was reckless i think i think i've sat down on a jilligan fan that was abusing me that day and i said she do you know what you really

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  24. In the Chillingham and having a fight with someone, I thought, oh my God, this is not my first season in professional football. My dad's having a fight. I'm getting absolutely abused. My mum's crying. You know, what am I doing? Why am I putting myself through this? Of course I love football and that's what I want to be, but is it worth all this?

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  25. Oh, without doubt. I just think to myself, is it worth it? Like, why I always remember the game, it was West Brom away when I came on. I miss the chance, and nobody knew who I was. I was just a kid, you know, I was probably the same height as I am now and probably about nine stone, nine and a half stone. I was, you know, much skinnier than I am now, believe it or not. And I'm trying to be a Premier League lad. You know, it's just, people just thought it was absolutely ridiculous. And at times, I thought it myself. I thought, well, I know I've got ability, but I'm looking at these big, strong, you know, developed men. I can't compete with this. And I also remember coming on, people actually laughing at me. And then there was another game away at Gillingham where I just got absolutely abused to the point where people were shouting freak and does the circus know you're here like this these were the these are the things that people were saying and uh my dad was in the crowd i always remember it i was walking i was walking uh out uh at halftime of the game and my dad was rolling down the aisle in it

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  26. Do I want it that much? I was lucky I had a good support network around me and I had good people around me. My dad was great with me and he'd always, and he was harsh with me at times as well, but he was also really, really good at pulling me back up and sort of giving myself more confidence. And listen, I don't look like your average footballer. And I've known that since I was 10, 11 years old. You know, when I watch football on the TV, I don't see anyone that represented me really. Tour Andre Flow was potentially one had good technique. There was a couple of players, but not many. So I thought to myself, maybe I'm just not, I'm not right. Maybe I don't look right. I shouldn't be a player. I had all these things going on in your mind, but ultimately, I had the determination and I had the ability to...

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  27. Yeah, yeah. I think there were times where I thought to myself, is it worth it? Is it worth going through this? Why am I putting myself through this? It's all I've ever loved. It's all I've ever wanted to do. People are going to laugh at me and take the piss out of me. What is the point, you know?

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  28. And then I started playing in the first team. And all of a sudden it was like, you know, dealing with, there's one thing dealing with the odd person in the street saying, oh, aren't you tall? And another thing dealing with sort of 30,000 people screaming, like obscenities at you, you know, taking the piss out of the way you look, laughing at you. That was difficult.

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  29. Well, on an impressionable young teenager, it had a big impact. Me now, you know, it's Waterford Duck's back. It doesn't matter to me. But yeah, as a young lad, it was a little bit different. I remember my dad getting really angry about it. Because as a teenager, you're going through things that are a little bit, you know, you're always not comfortable within your own skin, are you as a young lad? So I was the same as everyone else, but I found it difficult at times, really difficult, and especially football terraces, like as I got older and I was playing professionally.

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  30. Exactly right, yeah, and it's because there's bigger problems everywhere. There's bigger problems. But my problem, or it was my thing was different, was my height, you know, like I recently did a joke of like all the questions that I was permanently asked. I had a series of cards in my inside pocket to answer every single question that the people I knew were going to ask me. So what's the weather like up there? Do you play basketball? How to all of you? Do you sleep in the grow bag? Is the weather different up there? Five questions, but I had all the answers in my inside pocket. So before they even opened their mouth, I could give them a card. And it was just something funny, you know, that changed the subject. But it's amazing how many times I think it's less so now because people know who I am and know what I'm about. But before...

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  31. Like that's how it was for me. But I love it. It feels to me like it's part of me. It's me now. I've always been taller than everyone else. It wasn't as if I just shot up and was different. I was just always ahead above everyone else. And that is a part of me now, which I love.

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  32. Yeah, well, I think it's only people with experience, like older people, that notice anything like that, isn't it really? I think as kids, we just grow up, everyone's the same, aren't they? And then it's older kids. So like when I was, you know, I was always the tallest in my class, but my mum and dad never made a big deal of it to me. I was always taller than everyone else. And then when we started to play football, then when I started to be good at football, you would hear things on the sideline, yeah, but he's a couple of years older or yeah, he's good, but he's too old. Because you're only judged by your height at that age. So I'd hear things from the parents and then, you know, I'd hear like little remarks, like people laughing, little japes and gibing and, yeah, because people saying, oh, you're skinny or you're lanky is seen as sort of like you're allowed to say it in some ways. Do you know what I mean? It's a describing word.

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  33. And then people see me now as a footballer who has a laugh, I suppose. And that is my persona. But that stems from my childhood, really, and being a little bit different, looking a little bit different and having maybe a defense mechanism. And that humour, probably that you see, which is me now, yeah, it was a little bit of a defense mechanism when someone came at me, I'd always be funnier than they would be. that stops whoever's saying it in their tracks, you know, and then that being so tall at such a young age was difficult at times, but that kind of defense mechanism was, I laugh at myself before you can laugh at me. And that stood me in good stead. And even now, that's the way I get through things.

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  34. Right at the start, I suppose. I think everything comes from your childhood, right? I am who I am and shaped by my parents and my friends. And I suppose people see me now, obviously like I had a determination to be a footballer, a huge determination to be a footballer.

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  35. Needed to at that time. You're not seen as people, it's like you're well paid, so you have to endure this abuse. You know, you put yourself in a position to be shot at. But what I've seen with certainly Harry McGuire, the criticism goes beyond criticism. It's gone too far. I'm so proud to represent my country book.

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  36. So intense, yeah. A big reason why I'm a person I am. I play for England and era where it felt like there was a huge pressure. We had an opportunity to win World Cups and because we didn't, it was heaped on players. I've got my mum, my dad and friends in the crowd. And then you come on and get booted by 70,000. It's hard to come back from that because my mum was crying, my dad had to have a fight. I was thinking about giving up football. I think I wasn't seen as what an England striker should look like. I was so scared. I just wanted to hide away.

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  37. Seen things that I'd never seen before. You know, the proudest moment of my life has been taken away because of that. People that know me would say I'm a nice guy. Bond the pitch, I had to be a different person if I wanted to succeed. The top level players that I've played with Lampard, John Terry, Stephen Gerard, I think, look like they don't enjoy it. They are constantly battling for the next thing.

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