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Petra Wille

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“Interesting. Yeah, the first one is easy LinkedIn, Petra Ville. You can find me there. And then there is my website, Petra minus W-I-L-E.com. That's my website. And how can listeners be helpful to me? That's a tough one. I think it could be mutual beneficial if you are a product manager IC level and you would love to get better supported in your personal development and go by my book and just hand it to your manager if that's appropriate. Or just put it on their desk and just forget that it's there. Hopefully they read it or something like that. I think that is how I would love to answer the last question.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As I'm a conference organizer as well for a conference that was called the Product Engage here in Hamburg, that is a super hard question for me to ask because so many people have been on that stage. That I would consider being a thought leader, they would maybe not consider them being a thought leader. I think the thought leader thing is pretty hard anyway. So there are so many different voices in our industry. And I think looking at the guest list of your podcast actually is a very good start when you think about thought leaders and getting more inspirations because there are ones that we know and some hidden gems on there.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Harvest is what I use for time tracking and bookkeeping. And I love that. It makes my life easier since a few years already. And then, yeah, new banking apps that are coming up that I'm using for my accounts. One is Quanto. I think it's a German bank, but they really did a great job in the user experience, super seamless in their apps and all these kind of things. Yeah. So that's two cool products that I love to use.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm totally not into product management, that's all these days because as I'm just coaching people on an hourly basis, I'm no longer the one looking into the tools they're using. So that's quite a tough question. Things that I use a lot in my personal work is rather boring stuff like bookkeeping software and time tracking. Which ones?”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Definitely to tell me about the last time. So tell me about a time when you did your last round of user interviews. Tell me about your last time when you onboarded a new colleague. Because I think as a user interviewing, just tell me about the last time you really sparks nice conversations and interviews.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe in New Amsterdam. I loved it. It's actually a medical director, Matt, and he's finding very unconventional ways to solve problems. And I think he's a great leader. So maybe that's a nice framing for watching the show.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I love the product experience podcast, and if you're able to speak German, then there is one that is called Product Mention by Tobias Freuden.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The art of thinking clearly by the belly, it talks about human biases in a really nice and illustrated way. Then what I use a lot in my coaching practice, especially with senior executives, is outcomes over output because that's a super strong concept, I'd say. And then maybe I want to mention two books that are not yet written, but two concepts that I hope will make it into books. And one is Martin Erickson's decision stack. And then there is another book about public speaking that hopefully might come out if some people are supporting it on Kickstarter. And that is called Present Yourself a Public Speaking Book.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thank you. And it's super interesting that you're sharing that because companies often don't want to invest in Your full time community managers may be the wrong word because that's not necessarily has to be a full time role, but there need to be some people that really have a decent amount of time to invest in running this community because otherwise while it's not working. And I still think it is still cheaper than sending everybody to trainings and conferences all the time. And it has a lot of. Ripple effects and network effects”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Plus, a lot of communities that I see use engagement as a success metric. And I'm actually not sure if this is a good success metric. So, as you say, signal versus noise is maybe the better success metric, which leads us to down the rabbit hole of how to write that. But yeah, engagement is maybe not the predominant success factor for a community.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exact same thing, sharing their best reads and they're worthy to watch videos and all these kind of things. So content and curation definitely is another thing that you should think about and reflect on once in a while.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because that's what I would say after doing all this research, it's not sustainable if the whole community is on the shoulders of one, two, three people. So you need to distribute the workload and you need to distribute this responsibility because sometimes even things like policing the community is not a pleasant job. And if there's only one person dealing with all of these things, then it's not really community because then it's a bit organized like a company in this pyramid scheme. So I think more of it as circles, different circles of interest and then building bridges between them because maybe not everybody in your community is interested in the same topics, but maybe they're the smaller circles of 10, 15 people interested in this one topic, 10, 15 people interested in this other topic, you may be connecting the dots, you may be giving a bit of impulse and inspiration. But maybe other people are doing.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe not so important for your community. Let's see, let's discuss. Let me hear what you think. Which is incentives and sponsoring. So, how do you value contribution? Are you giving back? Is it a kudos mechanism? Or is it something where people really earn badges of honor or earn time, earn more training budget? That's what a lot of companies do, right? If you're playing an active role in the community, then you get more training budget to spend or something like that. Or they grant you time to do so. So if you say like, hey, I want to be part of this product community, could I travel one month a quarter or something like that? Because I want to go and see those people. That is something that people do. So incentives and sponsoring. Then it's roles. And that will be interesting in your case as well. Is Lenny the center of the community?”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It helps to reflect on what is the purpose of the community and that changes over time with the community members that are currently part of this community, right? So that is not a stable thing. So sometimes everybody has to pause for a second and then think about what is the purpose of this community. What are our values? And how would we define success? It's pretty boring, I know, because it sounds so familiar with what we do in product management, but I think it applies for product communities as well. And then it's, you need to find good rituals and rhythm. And you, Lenny, were already talking about some of the ones you are using. I know, for example, what Teresa is doing in her community, I interviewed her this year. So there is a blog post on that online as well where she talks about what she tried and what did work and what did not work. So I think that is important.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is not an easy question. First of all, congratulations. I really think it's a massive achievement to start such a community and to really have such a vibrant community because it's I know it takes a lot of energy investment at first to get it going, and then a lot of energy to keep it on a certain level, so to say. Yeah, what I found helpful is have this community canvas that I use when I'm working with clients. And some of the things require workshops to some extent.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and it brings so much clarity in your thinking if you're sharing some things you learned with the community, that this is a massive uptake as well. So give back. That really makes sense for you personally as well.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In a good community that is possible, at least, to share that everybody's sharing and that there's mutual trust. And then it's often just if you enjoy being part of this community. That's, I think, another super important thing to look into. Do you like the people there? Do you like to hang out with them? Do you think they are kind, lovely human beings? And is there some level of activity in the community because there's too many dead ones out there, more or less? And I think these are the things that I would use as a benchmark.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, a good question. So, I would say if it helps you with networking, that is really something good if you meet nice, interesting people. So that is one thing I would love to mention. And then if you're learning something new every now and then, maybe not every day, maybe not every week, but every now and then there should be some real nuggets where you think like, oh, this is making my life easier or this is super interesting. I would never ever have stumbled upon these things without the community. So learning something new and then reflecting on how much you already learned about a certain topic or know about a certain topic, which is contributing to the community. You could be a community moderator. You could be somebody organizing some of the rituals. You could be somebody just sharing what you learned. So I think that is something that could.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it's actually a pretty cheap way of doing people development because trainings are expensive, conference tickets are expensive, getting external product coach expensive, but helping people to learn from each other by making room for that and giving them a bit of time to reflect and to share what they're learning. That's rather cheap. So I think that is the benefits that I see trading budgets. Training budget impact people tend to stay with the company a bit longer leadership-wise. It's less a time that you have to invest in people development. And then it's just fun for a lot of people. That's another uptake, I'd say.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Impact definitely is stickiness. So people tend to stay with companies where they're learning and growing and can get to mastery. So to say hello, Daniel Pink. So that is really something that people are thriving for. And if they find this in a company and a product community of practice could be a big part of that. So that is one impact. Then the other impact less people development on the desk of the product lead if there is a good product community of practice. So product leads, your life will get so much easier if there is a product community of practice.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Over and over again. So that's why I think it's a super important question. And I would love to help a bit more companies to start a community of practice or to mature the community of practice that they already having.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Make this my topic for this year's research, so to say. And I was talking to a lot of my clients and former clients hey, are you running a community of practice? If you don't run a community of practice, why is that? Often they have never considered running one. They don't know where to start. So that's another problem, obviously. And at some point, I decided to conduct a survey to see if random strangers can tell me about their companies and their community of practice. And that was super interesting as well. For example, I found that oftentimes there is a bit of a community of practice internally, but they never heard about external product communities. So they never heard of your community or the racist community or mind the product or any of those external communities. And that is shocking to an extent as well, because we're also friendly human beings happy to share what we learn and they don't have to go through the same things.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“If the line manager is not taking care of the personal development, who could? And I talked to several of my colleagues about that question. And at some point, somebody said like, yeah, that's what community of practices are often used for. So that's where a lot of people get their inspiration. And basically I reflected on my career. And early on, I was in a super engaging product organization where we really, we tried a lot. We shared a lot. A lot of the things that we tried didn't work at all, but others really fell on fertile grounds and we could learn from each other. And we invested quite some time in this sharing, but everyone got better over time because of this community being present. And so I decided.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Again, the starting point was a rather egocentric starting point because I'm constantly thinking about how could I scale the work that I do? Because I still see so many companies Not getting a product coach, or I still see so many companies where people develop and is not a priority, all these kind of things. And at some point, I thought”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Back in the day when Marty King was my product coach, he made me read selling the dream, which is the McIntosh story on product evangelizing by Gabe Kawazaki. That's not, it didn't help me to become a better storytelling, but it helped me realize that it is really important that I work on that skill. So that is actually the trigger. And material that helped me is basically everything from Nancy Duarte and Duarte Inc. So there are even leadership books about rituals and how to ignite the spark in all the people you're having. As well, 72 rules on storytelling and all these kind of things. And I have a lot of free material. I know it's not a book, but they have several books. And that was great material that helped me to become better.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, exactly. So we don't need to create this complicated story for the next print, I'd say, that's too much of an effort, maybe a waste of time. You need to look a bit further out to make it worth spending a lot of time on creating your story”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Environments, so just a recorded video may be, yeah, it's good, but maybe a written version of it is nice as well. And the next one is an illustration that helps you Making some of the core points of your story visible to the audience, and there could be a whiteboard drawing, a flip chart drawing, there could be a bigger, maybe it's five slides with emotional pictures on it or whatever it is, but be visual with your story as well. And then you should have it ready in three different formats. In a super short 75 second elevator pitch version, in a six minutes, I can do this before we actually start sprint planning version. And ideally, I have to go to the company all hands and have to talk about what we will look into for the next four months. And that's maybe an 80 minutes version. And 80 minutes is the length of an average TED talk. And there is a reason for that. It has to do with attention spans and all these kind of things. So that's why I advise people to use this three length.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To actions or something like that, then maybe it's nice if I put them in the center of the story and make them the heroes and talk about the demons and monsters they have to fight to once arrive at this brighter future. And maybe some other times it makes sense to put the user there and really talk about how their world and lives would have improved once this product is out and available. Or maybe it's even a feature that we're talking about or a bigger redesign or whatever you're currently working on, right? But you could use this proven story structure and see what are the things in deer, so the call to adventure, what is the call to adventure, what is this bright future? And it helps you to start and to get going. And I usually advise people to have it hand, the story handy in various formats so spoken that they could actually talk about it, written because we all tend to work in remote as in”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, it's don't sit in front of the blank page for too long. Just start drafting something. I think there's a lot of beauty in the story as a design tool, so to say, because it's even easier to change a story than it is to change a prototype. So even before you put something in writing, you could start talking about it and see how it lands and then tweak it. And I think that's the first thing, get going. And then the other thing is go start talking about your story. Go test it. See how it resonates and then tweak it. And maybe you could use one of the proven story structures. Find the one that helps you most. I really, even if it's super boring, but I use this hero's journey a lot where I think about should I put the team in the heart of the story? Because if it's a story that I that should help me to motivate the team or to inspire the team.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And said, but he gave great ted talks, really data-heavy TED talks because they often hear from product people, yeah, but the work we do, that's so boring, how could we make a great story out of that? And I think Hans Rosling showed over and over again that you can. So that definitely is an inspiration. And then on a totally different note, I love spoken word poetry because that really talks to the heart and minds of people. And I use in my coaching, I usually send people off to the TED talk from Sarah K, which has the nice title, If I Should Have a Daughter, and that really helps people to understand like, ah, okay, that's how you could be playful with words. And that's what happens to me personally and to my body and to my emotions if I listen to something like that. So that's maybe three things. Could be mentioning”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's another hard question. So who had the biggest influence on me was definitely Jason Goldberg. He was my former boss and he was the first person that came into the startup that I was working for back at the time. And he was really the first person who entered every stage that he could find to talk about the things that he wants to achieve with us as a product team and as a product organization in a way it was really motivational. So it really helped me to experience that and how he was using this product evangelizing techniques to actually really tell the whole company what we up for currently and what the problems out there he thinks are worth solving. So that was definitely the inspiration. And then I think another great speaker is definitely Hans Rosling. He's no longer with us.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think it is a career solar if you can for a product person. Can do the IC level product management job, but getting promoted is way harder if you're not good in telling stories and rallying the team behind the shared goal and all these kind of things. And you usually achieve this through good storytelling techniques. And in some teams, I've seen the product person not being really, really good at it, but then the whole team helped creating these stories and stuff like this. So you definitely could compensate to some extent, but I would consider it a bit of a career staller if you don't get to a decent level of storytelling and to a decent level of public speaking. So, yeah, I think it's important.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Really depends. So I think not being able to speak publicly and to bring your point across, because a lot of people do public speaking, but they never bring their point across. So if you want to achieve both things.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, Backstage. You were doing those once backstage. And think about what you're wearing, because if you're wearing something like that and do this before you enter the stage, people might see that.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think the two things that work well, it's either the Superman pose. So that is one thing if you're standing like this looking straightly up. That is one thing that helps many people. It's not my preferred one. And then the other one is a bit of the gorilla thing. Just like tapping here, there is, I don't know what's the English word. No, it's not the vagus nerf I think it's timeless. I need to look it up And if you just hit dead softly. Sometime that bumps your energy level, so to say. So that helps me. And again, friendly faces front row. So find people that you like and respect and that you know that have the spark in their eyes when you start talking that definitely helps as well.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Beings and not too many of them. So sometimes they're just 30 people attending and I knew in the summer, not so many people are coming. So why not giving a talk there? So really start small and then grow the audience over time and always make sure, because that helped me a lot to get feedback from strangers and peers if possible because the peers tend to give you the harsher critique, so to say. where the strangers are more polite, but they're not so familiar with the work you do or with the story that you want to tell. So they can spot some gaps in your storytelling technique or something like that. So that is something that helped me a lot to always have this friendly soul in the front row where I know I get some feedback from later on, plus then having complete strangers. And there's always somebody coming up after the talk, right?”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Was really bad in, well, I have to tell you, and it still is not something that I love, but I know it's part of the work that we do. And so the easiest way is to get in front of really small and super friendly audiences. So that is, I think, the first starting point. And I don't know where that is. There could be your team. That's a super small audience, usually five to ten people. Or maybe you will find with your company of 80 people or 120 people, maybe the company all hands is already something where you could actually speak. That was my first time and I had to speak in front of the whole company at a company, All Hands around 90 people back at the time. And I only had to give a brief update on what we did the last two weeks. And it was like five minutes on stage, but it freaked me out. So that's where I'm coming from. And it really helped me to start small. Then product tanks, for example, this local product community meetups totally helped me because friendly human.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And it's a cultural thing. So I really find in average Americans, for example, being better at it than most of us Europeans. And I think that's because even in your school system, it seems to me, I don't know, you tell me if that is the case, but storytelling and being in front of a class or something like this is something that is encouraged and valued already, where in at least when I was at school this was not part of the whole system at all. So really late, it was part of what we did, but not from an early age. So it's just not something that we trained in or that we used to. So sometimes even speaking in front of 30 people, people are freaking out because they never did that. So that's their cultural differences to that, definitely as well.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it is way harder to do it when you really start to create your story to remove all these terms. And that takes a lot of time. And as well. So you have to really put an effort into, don't use too much pinging.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So hormones get released depending on how the story is actually formed, if they're cliffhangers, or if it's really like, well, you're super with the hero and think, where is it going to take him or something like that? And that releases hormones in your brain. And that only happens if you're using natural worlds, so to say. So you could talk about smell and sense and how people feel and how their life would be better if this product would be out, all these kind of things. So really make sure that you think about, do I really speak to their minds and to their hearts and remove all you three-letter abbreviations and all these kind of things, which is something that everybody says as well.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Would be really make sure that you're using language that speaks to the heart and the minds of the people because we constantly tend to use too much of our business lingo. And that's like banner blindness. Some of the words that we're using, people totally overhearing them because we're using them so often. And they could be even things like product discovery. So maybe your company is already so fed up with all your product discovery stuff. that you should start using different terms even if then say hypothesis driven product management it's more or less the same thing and maybe it's even too complex maybe you can find something simpler and say like we need to learn something about this particular thing because studies show and that's that's the that's the scientific background stories really have an impact on our brain”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Rule of them. So I think if you, let's say you want to explain the rest of the company what you and the team are up for the next three to four months, so to say, then I think that's two weeks of work, not eight hours a day, obviously, but two weeks of work, maybe one or two hours a day to really carve that story and think about different audiences and different framings of when am I able to tell this story. And that is actually, I think, a rule of thumb of time investment. So it takes time because people often think like, I don't know, you just get better overnight in telling great stories. It's just not how it works. So you have to practice and you have to put in a lot of work and time to come up with a logical, compelling, motivating story that then lasts for longer than a week or two. So that's a lot of work. And then the other tip.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, I think I would love to mention two things. So, first of all, people that starting off and they're getting a better storytelling journey often totally underestimate how many times actually great storytellers are investing in creating the stories and making sure they can share the story in nice ways and formats. So that's maybe the first tip. You have to plan to put in a lot of work to create your story.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Help a development plan could help and a prepared list of coaching questions could help to make that way easier. Your PMs to feel more valued”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, exactly. So, and he has a great framework as well. I would need to look at the questions up, but maybe we put them in the show notes as well. That's a bit of an house check as well. And you, first of all, it's five easy assessment questions for you, for your folks. And then it's more of, okay, if you're ranking yourself a six, how could I help you to make it a seven? So it really focuses on incremental improvements, not crazy stressing everybody out improvements, not what could I do to make it a 10. It's more really how could I improve your situation, really build rapport, really be there for your product folks. And I think creating this list of coaching questions as a go-to list could improve the quality of your one-on-ones because let's face it, we often run them to those ones. Either we ditch them or we run into those ones completely unprepared. And an assessment could”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Questions, it really depends. So, what I find super Helpful is a list of emotions because people tend to find it really hard to talk about how they currently really are. And I don't know why this is the case. Maybe it's just maybe it's not feeling comfortable to talk about this with your line manager, which is another topic and bringing us back to the topic of company culture. But it, for example, is something that I always have handy. And if I have this notion of, okay, this person maybe really needs a hug to some extent. then this conversation about, hey, look, there is this list of 30 emotions. Where do you think you're currently at and why and could I help you with that? So that could be something. And then I think you talked Mokiari the other day, right?”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, one One easy tip is. Get yourself a list of great questions that you could ask in one ones if you don't have the time to prepare. That would be one of my tips as well. There's several great coaching books out there. Some of the good questions are in my book as well. Yeah, just find some coaching questions, make your small compilation, and then really see what resonates with your team. And that often is a bit of a health check. How are you doing? What would make you more successful in the role that you're currently having, all these kind of things could be helpful”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That is true. But maybe some of your colleagues figure another book and then you can just share what you learned and what works better and a bit of a community thing.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I totally agree. Just, I think two weeks ago, one of my coaches told me that he stopped reading a lot of books and consuming a lot of content. And he instead dedicates the whole year to using one methodology or book. So in that case, the picture says continuous discovery habits. And that's what they read over and over again for the whole year. And I think there is an interesting way of looking at things.”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They never heard about anything that could help them prioritize their tasks. Because that's the reality that we find in a lot of the companies, right? So that big part of the book is really this, how do you really help them understand this smaller tasks and things that the daily work requires them to do?”
2022-11-27 · Lenny's Podcast · How to be the best coach to product people | Petra Wille (Strong Product People) · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source