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Philip Zimbardo

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  1. Yeah, you hit it right on the head. Is that for your listeners would just go back in time in 2004, someone released pictures of American prison guards in Abu Ghre prison in Iraq humiliating, torturing, degrading, sexually abusing prisoners who they should have been protecting. So these were images that came from the cameras of the guards themselves. And it was global disgrace to America at a time when the war in Iraq was still a big problem, big issue. And what happened was, again, obviously the military disowned it to say this, there were a few bad apples. And curiously, I was in Washington, D.C. when that broke. I had been the president of the American Psychological Association and was there on a...

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  2. One of the prisoners, 8612, I still remember vividly, had an emotional breakdown, screaming, crying, out of control. And each day thereafter, another prisoner had a similar reaction. So we ended the study after five days because it was out of control. And we could not imagine that a social situation could have such a profound impact. But what happened was the guards really became creatively sadistic. There were three guards working eight hour shifts and there were three shifts and there were nine prisoners at any one time, three in a cell. And then the remaining, there were backup guards and backup prisoners. And so the study ended on this very down note of good kids doing really bad things to each other, creatively evil in the role of guard.

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  3. And 75 people answered the ad. We interviewed each of them, gave them a battery of personality tests. And we picked two dozen who were normal and healthy in every way we could imagine. And then what happened was we randomly assigned have to be guards, have to be prisoners. And in that setting, they became prisoners or guards. Now, of course, we made it realistic. They had different kind of uniforms. Prisoners had symbols of power. Billy clubs, handcuffs, military-style uniforms, and the prisoners were in uniforms that simply had a number on it. We took away the name. They became dehumanized. And the amazing thing was in 36 hours, normal, healthy college student, and these were not students from Stanford. They were from all over the United States who were in the Bay Area finishing up summer school.

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  4. And so, but his research was part of the demonstration of the power of social situations over individual dispositions. And I followed up my team at Sanford, Craig Haney, Kurt Banks, and David Jaffe and I followed up by saying, you know, it's rare that somebody will tell you to do something horrible or dangerous. Typically you're playing a role and in the role and you're in a group and everybody is doing this. So we reconceptualize the setting as a prison because prisons are all about power and guards have power and prisoners try to get some and guards try to limit their attempts at power. And so what we did is we put an ad in the Palo Alto newspaper wanted college students for study of prison life that could go up to two weeks.

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  5. They kept saying You must go on, you have a contract, you must continue teacher. And the amazing thing is two of every three of these adults went all the way to 450 volts, which in a sense could have been lethal. I should back up and say when Milgram asked 40 psychiatrists at Yale Medical School what percent of all Americans would go to the bitter N their estimate was 1% because to do so you'd have to be a psychopath.

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  6. Okay, so the year is 1971. It's the 70s. exciting things are happening in psychology. Bit earlier at Yale My high school classmate at James Monroe High School in the Bronx in the He had done the classic research on blind obedience to authority. He got mostly men. 20 to 50, not college students. The role of teacher. to help students improve their memory by Punishing Would punish the Arabs by Levels of electric Happened is the Confederate. tending to be the student. after a while to yell and scream I have a heart condition. I don't want to go on. Would anybody

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT

  7. Well, my legacy for better or for worse is. Stanford Prison Experiment. I did back in 1971. I was recently in Budapest and I'm driving in a taxi. I said, yes. He said, what do you do? I said, I'm a psychologist. He said, did you ever hear that study where they put college students in a prison? And Budapest, Hungary. So yeah, so it's what I'm most well known for because it was and is the most study ever done in psychology. Part because 24 7. Most research is just one hour typically it fits into a student's schedule but this research Day and night for a week, and it was supposed to go for two weeks. And so What was special about it is actually then see in the videos we Character transformation of hour by hour, day by day. Bad

    2017-03-08 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #226: How to Not Be Evil - Dr. Phil Zimbardo · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT