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Rachel Maddow

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  1. At that point, you cannot stress that enough. The one thing that you cannot, no matter what kind of depression you have or no matter what time of your life, you realize that you've got it, no matter how it affects your life, the one thing that is true for all of us who are living with depression is that you cannot deal with it alone. You have to have other people in your life, whether it's professionals or loved ones or family members or somebody else in your life who you know who's dealt with it. There has to be at least one other person who you bring in to helping you fix it because depression isolates you. And the way that you get out of it, the way that you survive it is by bringing other people into your circle and getting help.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. And I, you know, I try to take care of myself. I know that my family life is really important to me in terms of my equilibrium, my diet, my exercise, my sleeping, my compartmentalization with work. And I sort of recalibrate and titrate these things in a way that try to take care of myself. And sometimes I need to take time off.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Merging onto a freeway in the rain, in the dark, in a snowstorm with no windshield wipers going 90 miles an hour and there's trucks. Like you just And so that's the moment for me on television. Then there's my whole other 23 hours of life around that.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. It's interesting. Actually, being on the air, which is the way that most people in the world experience me, that's like for me, that's a sprint, you know, like it's not, I don't, I don't run a marathon every day in terms of what I'm doing on the air. The part where I'm actually on TV talking to the television camera, that is me running 100-yard dash. And so there's nothing else going on. I'm not hot or cold or hungry. I have never sneezed while I've been on television. It's pretty good. In 10 years on television, five days a week, 50 weeks a year. Like it is, you know, it's like, um,

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. Which is the most important thing You lose that sense because you disconnect from the world emotionally, disconnect from your emotions and sort of, for me, the metaphor that works the most is like, you know, there's the space station, you know, and then there's like the little pod that goes off into space and you're out on your own. Sometimes it feels like my pod kind of gets cut off and I'm just out there in a way that I can't recognize the cues and emotional realities that otherwise support my life when I'm not depressed. Knowing enough about myself to know when that's happening to try to remember that it's going to end and to have support in my life in terms of my partner Susan, other friends in my life who are able to tell me

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Things to accommodate and live with it. So for me, the breakthrough for me was learning that it was depression and that it's a cyclical thing and that it's a predictable thing and that it happens to me in ways that I should know are going to recur. Because one of the things for me in depression is that it removes your sense of connection to the world. You lose your sense of perspective. And so every time I am depressed. In that moment, I can't tell you that I've ever been depressed before, that I ever will be again.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Sort of part of the point. It's never done. If it's done, you're cured. But as long as it's something that you're living with, you have to be open to it having a different kind of effect and needing to do different.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. It's a hard set of questions. Factually, I've been dealing with it since I was a teenager, and for me, the process of dealing with it was basically, it's a process that's not over. It's not something where I figured out what works and now it's done and now I'm fixed. I definitely still live with depression and I feel like I still as a 45-year-old evolving my responses to it and my ways of accommodating it and I expect that those will change over the course of my life. I sort of try to stay, keep my knees loose and stay. Isn't that true of any illness?

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. Yeah, and so that alone was such a big concession to them that was giving them so much of what they wanted already. Just keep larding more things onto that in terms of what they want while getting nothing from them. It's just. I don't know where it's going. It just strikes me more than anything as strange and unexplained.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. Overnight. I mean, I'm sure that getting Mike Pompeo to come visit itself. I mean, it's only, you know, Secretary of State coming to visit North Korea. And happen to.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. North Korean state media is saying that Trump offered it. And there's no transcript from the one-on-one meeting to prove whether or not he did.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. But to give them that with nothing conceited, with nothing offered, and then to offer more to them on top of that is so backwards. It's so opposite to America's national security interests and to those of our allies that it feels to me there's a mystery at the heart of it. There's a conundrum at the heart of it, which is why.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. I don't know. I still was trying to figure out where it came from. I mean, the offer to talk. To me, itself is a good thing, right? To talk, offering to talk to our enemies wherever they are seems to me a good thing if the talk itself, the one-on-one discussion with the US president or even with other high-ranking U.S. officials is sufficient to bring our enemies to a better place in order to get those talks. But to go right to the royal wedding style one-on-one leader-to-leader summit with no good TV.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. I mean, talk about screwing, I mean, Japan legitimately has a legitimate beef with us over that. China getting what it wants, Russia getting what it wants, South Korea getting steamrolled and not even consulted about that. And they sort of have to say, okay, that's great because they want to try to support whatever Trump's doing here. Talk about hurting our friends and helping our enemies and giving stuff away. It's just bewildering.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. Pennsylvania. You'll see like that, and you'll see very different races on the West Coast. And that's as it should be. And I think the Democrats country is figuring out what it wants its national leadership race to look like. But in part, they'll figure that out by trying to win local races everywhere in lots of different ways over these next few months.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. Light dawns on Marblehead. I think that in a midterm election, I think you may get multiple answers to that question in different parts of the country. I think that in blue states and red states, you're going to have different candidates running in different ways. You know, talking about these specials, this guy who just, this Democrat who just flipped this seat just outside Green Bay in Wisconsin this week in this special election that Scott Walker didn't want to hold and Eric Halder's group went in and sued and forced him to hold the special election. So the guy, this is a Democrat's first time they've had a Democrat in that seat in 41 years or something. I went to his website yesterday and his website is I like to fish and so it like stuck with me. His website is him holding up a stringer of about 15 perch and crappy that he's got and all of his other pictures for him hunting and portaging and canoe and fishing. It's all about him being here. Well, that was a Connor Lamb.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. I'd trade my ratings. But here in North History, you're doing U.S. military exercises. Yeah, I want to ask you about that before we got to, because I know

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. And that's a constant in American political science. Like, that's the one thing that you can predict no matter who's president or no matter who's in control of Congress is that the American people, particularly after presidential election, like to compensate, like to have split government.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Need a great result, and there's, I think they will definitely get a good result. The question is whether they're going to get a big enough good result.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Where the Republicans And where are we as a country if that's where Republicans are as a party? That's the test that we're going to learn over these next few months. I think it's going to be very, very interesting.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. But the people of his state decided they wanted them until he crossed Trump. Like, really, that's the boundary. That's the barrier.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. Which is amazing because one of the elections he didn't lose was getting elected to Congress after leaving the governorship by the skin of his teeth because of the Argentina affair thing. I mean, that is that kind of a personal political comeback was so unlikely anyway. Right.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. I mean, November's going to be fascinating. To see watching all the special elections, watching the primaries going the way they are, seeing the Republican Party just decide to go hard edges, it's Trump or nothing. Well, the defeat of

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. Yeah, and so you end up with the cabinet that he's got, and you end up with tax policies that he's got, and you end up with a lot of disappointed people in the upper Midwest in terms of what the impact of these trade policies is going to be. And you end up with the wage disparity saying the way they are and stuff doesn't get better, but he stays in power.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. But you could imagine, I mean, Donald Trump wasn't a Republican for very long, right? You can imagine a sort of transcendent, non-partisan, populist, even populist authoritarian agenda, where he also supported a big rise in the minimum wage.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. Selling it as a relic of somebody else's politics. I mean, Donald Trump doesn't have populist politics. He doesn't have populist policies. He has populist languages. Other than...

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  27. Tucker Carlson, who's got like six middle names and comes from this incredibly aristocratic American background. You know, you've got people who don't embody what they're selling.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  28. No, but you don't have Franklin Roosevelt putting a Steve Minutian in at the Treasury Department, right? Hiring the bipartisan leadership cadre from Goldman Sachs and bringing them in, right? So you've got this populism that is message only being amplified by people like, you know.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  29. Such a weird place from which to have that megaphone, you know? I mean, like, there's Fox sitting on 48th Street and 6th Avenue, and there's, you know, Donald Trump. I don't know if you know where Kyle.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  30. And they're top within spinning distance of the time they forced out their top primetime star as well. So they took whatever their internal assessment was of those allegations. They obviously were serious enough for that company to make very serious changes that cost them a lot. And that's harrowing. And I didn't know anything about it when I was in communication with...

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. For him in the position that he was in, for them to have pushed him out, whatever their internal investigation showed was serious enough that he was. He was making

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  32. That people would be surprised that my book wasn't particularly liberal and that it might appeal to conservatives because it was a very nonpartisan take on this issue. And I was intrigued by what he might think about it. So I went to them for those kind of reasons. I will say that in terms of the sexual harassment allegations against him, none of that was known or public at the time that I was friends with him. And once those allegations came out at Fox, I actually never Talk to him again before he died. So, I never spoke with him about that stuff, and I didn't know anything about it at the time that I was in communication with him. But, you know, Fox obviously felt that those were serious and worthy allegations. Well, absolutely.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  33. When I was making friends with Roger, and I would say that's what it was, I went to him sort of in a collegial way because I wanted to get TV advice from him. And I wanted to hear what he thought of my performance on TV and why I wanted to figure out some more about kind of his special sauce in terms of how he had created this juggernaut. I also, when I wrote my book about the military, I suspected

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  34. Remarkable. And for me, it's also not something simple that he did. People say like, oh, you know, you got to be likable on television. You got to be pretty or you've got to be mellifluous or something like that. That's not what he did with Fox.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  35. You know, you end up fascinated with people who are good in your field, particularly when they're beating you And Fox has been so dominant in cable for so long. I sort of ended up interested in kind of what he, not necessarily what he was trying to accomplish, because I do think that Roger operated Fox as a Republican political operation, meaning it was designed to elect Republican candidates. It's an overt has an overt partisan intent. And I'm not that interested in that. I don't see myself as a political operative in the way that he was, but he used television in such a way that he was able to mainstream, at least within Republican politics, stuff that was absolutely completely off the charts in terms of rational normalcy. And that's a skill that I found

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  36. He said he would hire me and just pay me not to be on TV. Yes. Which I found immensely flattering, I have to say. I'm sure he was just buttering me up, but he was also kind of, he was like that too. He'd sort of obsequious flattery was part of his knowing shtick, I think. But I ended up talking with him because I

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  37. Guide me, you know, you talk to people who work with Tucker, nobody's ever gonna, you're not a screamer, he's not a he's not a bad guy to work for. Even if you completely disagree with him and you can't find this hard to imagine, he's a decent person and he's kind his wife and he's nice to the people who work for him and he's loyal. And I like him. And that said, what he does on TV, I think, sometimes is nutty, but I'm sure he thinks the same thing about me.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  38. That's an interesting question. You know, we don't overlap that much. We saw each other at an event in Washington a few months ago. I don't tend to do anything in the world. And so I don't ever encounter people in the wild. But we both fish. And we were doing an event that was a benefit for a fishing conservancy. And so I saw him. And it was like, we clicked again, you know? I mean, obviously he's doing his own thing, a fox, and I'm doing my own thing at MSNBC. And both of our careers have taken a lot of twists and turns, but he's still, I think he's still the same guy. And he's always been a decent and very civil

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  39. Think about how much more healthy it is to go to a saloon at 2 a.m. than to go to one at nine. No, I know. Especially if you're a good job.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  40. You just assume that it was written by a team of PhDs. Yes. Yeah. So I'd go do the Tucker Show live in Seucus at 11 o'clock and then at midnight I would take a car service to a diner in Manhattan and I would get breakfast at midnight and then I would work from midnight to 5 a.m. writing my 5 a.m. Air America show and whatever producer I had at the time I went through a lot of them they'd all end up like with their head on the keyboard the L key 40,000 times a long time that was I worked overnights for a long time and then I'd wrap up I'd leave at like seven or eight in the morning I'd go to this bar in Times Square called Smith's and that remember when French toast became freedom toast during the Iraq bar I'd have freedom toast and a tall boy a course light at 9 a.m. in Times Square and then go home and sleep all day

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  41. And the idea was that it would be Tucker and then a panel, a repeated panel the same night of people who he liked who disagreed with each other, who would fight with him about whatever the topic of the show was. And it was me and an HBO boxing commentator and a conservative talk show guy from Boston. And the whole premise fell apart immediately. But we all got hired. And so then we were kind of around whenever they needed us. And at the time, I was doing the first show that I'd been on at Air America had kind of gone away. And my show on Air America was 5 a.m. to 6 a.m. solo one hour no guests. And I used to write the show. Nobody writes talk radio. Right. No call-ins, no guests, solid hour. You mean rough.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  42. No, it's just the situation. Yeah, he was, that was the first paying job I ever had in TV. And the executive producer, this is a little bit in the weeds, but the executive producer of Tucker Show is a brilliant at the time was a brilliant human being named Bill Wolf. Bill Wolfe ended up being the executive producer of The Rachel Maddow Show that started on MSNBC. But Bill and Tucker hired me. It was like at the outset of Tucker's show, it was at 11 p.m. show.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  43. And the Democrats, the fellow Democrats who pushed him don't have regrets. But he is the one who ended up, you're right, pulling the plug on himself. And so does he have? I hear from a lot of

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  44. You know, it's, I'd be interested to. Hear his take on it now? I mean, one of the things about the way that he was pushed out is that he sort of, I think, de facto not allowed to talk about the circumstances of his resignation for, I don't know how long that penalty box period is for. Eventually I will want to hear his take on why he went and how and what choices he had and what choices were made.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  45. That arms people to take action if they want to. Yeah. But I'm not trying to change the world. I'm just trying to explain it.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  46. But what I'm telling you is true. I mean, we do corrections. When we deliver information on the show, you can take it to the bank. And I'm not trying to get a candidate elected. I'm not trying to get people to call their member of Congress. I'm not running activist campaigns. I'm not trying to raise money for anything. But we do cover stuff that I think is important and then I tell you why I think it's important.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  47. And I feel like it's the implicit contract that I have with my audience is that you will learn things on my show that will be true and that will help you understand what's going on. And I will always be honest with you about where I'm coming from in terms of giving you that information.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  48. I see myself as somebody whose job is to explain the news. And the outlet that I have at MSNBC is one in which I have editorial freedom to do what I want. I'm also bound by NBC News Rules and Standards, and we follow those religiously. And I get to say...

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  49. You know, because I had a previous life where I really was an activist, that's what I was really doing full-time, even when I did my doctoral degree and I did it on HIV in prisons, HIV and healthcare reform in prisons, that was sort of overtly done as a sort of participant observer in that kind of politics. Like I was an activist and that was my life and that was how I thought of myself. And then I stopped doing that and instead started doing full-time radio first and now TV. And I remember I was involved in lots of different activist elements in AIDS and prison stuff right up until 2004 when Air America came online and I moved from Western Mass to New York to go take this job. And I remember telling my friends and co-workers in my activist life, listen, I need to stop out for a while. Like I'm stopping doing this so I can see if I can make this new career in media. And I think it's not going to work. And I think I'll be back in six months.

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  50. It clicked. It was weird. I had never, ever, ever thought about it. I mean, I did in sixth grade at Canyon Middle School, I did journalism class for one quarter. But other than that, I had really never ever thought about doing any sort of media at all. And as an activist, I had written press conferences and written press releases and talking points and stuff for other people who were way more important than me. actually like what my first what I was doing is doing rip and read AP news copy and like reading the list of elementary schools that were closed for snow day and stuff but it was which is an essential task

    2018-06-18 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 252 — Rachel Maddow · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source