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Rana el Kaliouby

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“Yeah, the code still runs, but you're also kind of. There's like virtual humans. You don't have to think of it that way, but there's a kind of, when you chuckle like, yeah, like you're kind of chuckling to a virtual human. I mean, It's possible that the code has to have another human there. Because if you just grow up alone, I wonder if emotion will still be there in this visual form. So yeah, I wonder. But anyway, what can you tell from the human face about what's going on inside? So that's the problem that affectiva first tackled, which is Using computer vision, using machine learning to try to detect stuff about the human face as many things as possible and convert them into a prediction of Categories of emotion, anger, happiness, all that kind of stuff. How hard is that problem?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“First of all, I wonder if some of that is because we develop our intelligence and our emotional intelligence by communicating with other humans. And so when other humans disappear from the picture, we still kind of a virtual human.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, the whole thing is really connected. So emotion is connected to language, language is connected to intelligence, and then intelligence is connected to consciousness, and consciousness is connected to emotion. The whole thing is a beautiful mess.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It does seem like there's probably some interesting. Interweaving of emotion and consciousness. I wonder if it's possible to have like if their next door neighbors somehow or if they're actually flat mates. It feels like the hard problem of consciousness where it feels like something to experience the thing. Like red feels like red and it's, you know, when you eat a mango sweet, the taste, the sweetness that feels like something to experience that sweetness. That whatever generates emotions. But then, like, see, I feel like emotion is part of communication. It's very much about communication. And then that means it's also deeply connected to language. Then probably human intelligence is deeply connected to the collective intelligence between humans. It's not just a standalone thing.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“These aspects, so the human mind generates all this. So what do you think is the... They all seem to be like echoes of the same thing. What do you think emotion is exactly? Like, how deep does it run? Is it a surface level thing that we display to each other?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A more kind of technical, maybe philosophical level, you've written that emotion is universal. It seems that Sort of like Chomsky says language is universal. There's a bunch of other stuff like cognition, consciousness. Seems a lot of us have”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So emotional intelligence isn't just about. Effective expression of your own emotions is about a sensitivity and empathy to other people's emotions and the sort of being able to effectively engage in the dance of emotions with other people.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And make eye contact sometimes because humans appreciate that. Yeah, but something about the, especially when you say mean things in person. Get to see the pain of the other person”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Emotion and artificial intelligence, and I think this is a good story to start to think about emotional intelligence. You open the book with a story of a central Florida man, Jamel Dunn, who was drowning and drowned while five teenagers watched and laughed, saying things like, you're going to die. And when Jamel disappeared below the surface of the water, one of them said he just died and the others laughed. What is this incident teach you about human nature? The response to it, perhaps.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's beautiful. I mean, you're going to make money somehow. If you help people fall in love personally with the product, find self-love or help another human being, you're going to make money. You're going to figure out a way to make money Just feel like the dating apps often will optimize for something else than love. It's the same with social networks. They optimize for engagement. As opposed to like a deep, meaningful connection that's ultimately ground in personal growth you as a human being growing and all that kind of stuff. Let me do a pivot to a dark topic, which you open the book with. Because I'd like to talk to you about”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It can also trick you into thinking of serendipity. By somehow showing you a tweet of a person. That he thinks you'll match well with, but do it accidentally as part of another search. And like you just notice it, like, and then you get you go down a rabbit hole and you connect them outside the app to like you connect with this person outside the app somehow. So it's just it creates that moment of meeting. Of course, you have to think of from an app perspective how you can turn that into a business. But I think ultimately a business that helps people find love in any way.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not easy to find those, but you also don't want just people that care about the human, they also have to be good engineers. So it's like you have to find This beautiful mix. And for some reason, just empirically speaking, People have not done a good job of that of building companies like that. It must mean that it's a difficult problem to solve. Dating apps seem difficult. Okay, Cupid, Tinder, all those kind of stuff, they seem to find, of course they work, but they seem Do not work as well. With data, wouldn't you be able to find better human connection? It's like arranged marriages on steroids, essentially.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Turning at the data. I do wish that somebody else had a spreadsheet about me. If I was, like I said, you said convert, collect a lot of data about us in a way that's privacy preserving that I own the data, can control it, and then use that data to find, I mean, not just romantic love, but collaborators, friends, all that kind of stuff. It seems like the data is there. That's the problem social networks are trying to solve, but I think they're doing a really poor job. Even Facebook tried to get into a dating app business. And I think there's so many components to running a successful company that connects human beings. And part of that is... Having engineers, they care about the human side, right? As you know extremely well. It's not.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We're just turning this into a machine learning problem. I love it. But for somebody like you who's exceptionally successful and busy. Signs to that aspect of dating? Is it tricky? Is there advice you can give?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, definitely. But yeah, that's the number and the rate of inside joke generation. You could probably measure that and then optimize it over the first few days. Right.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But it feels that way. But what science shows us is sometimes we can explain with the rigor, the things that feel like magic. So maybe you can remove all the magic. Maybe it's like, I honestly think, like I said, good reads should be a dating app, which books, I wonder. I wonder if you look at just books or content you've consumed. I mean, that's essentially what YouTube does when it does recommend recommendation. If you just look at your footprint of content consumed, there's an overlap, but maybe interesting difference with an overlap That some, I'm sure this is a machine learning problem that's solvable, like this person is very likely to be not only chemistry in the short term, but a good lifelong partner to grow together. I bet you it's a good machine learning problem. We just need the data.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Actually, let me jump around because let me ask you about all this talk about Brad Pitt or maybe what's just going on inside my head. Let me ask about dating in general. You tweeted, are you based in Boston and single question mark? And then you pointed to a startup. Singles night sponsored by Smile Daning Up. I mean, this is jumping around a little bit, but since you mentioned. Can AI help solve this dating love problem? What do you think? This problem of connection that is part of the human condition? AI help that you yourself are in the search affirming?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I got it. Yeah, I say the same exact thing over and over and over. Oh, you do? Okay. There's a comfort in the sameness of it.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Writing is Writing feels like I'm losing Losing the words like losing the power of the words, maybe because that writes slow. Do you handwrite?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Holding hands, running together. No, more like Fight Club, the Fight Club Brad Pitt, where he's like standing. All right, people will know. Anyway, I'm sorry. I'll get off on that. Do you have like when you're thinking about being a love magnet in that way? Are you picturing specific people or is this almost like The space of energy.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I don't have a my smile up the window. Maybe I should add that because boy, it's much more stoic about focused, about this. But the joy, the emotion that you're just in that little affirmation is beautiful. So maybe I should add that.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Kind of, what is it that they do work to like remind you of the kind of person you are and the kind of person you want to be, which Actually, maybe in reverse order, the kind of person you want to be, and that helps you become the kind of person you actually are.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Despite all the negativity, I mean, there's some of that. You actually tweeted a really nice. A tweet thread says a year ago a friend recommended I do daily affirmations And I was skeptical. But I was going through major transitions in my life, so I gave it a shot. And it set me on a journey of self-acceptance and self-love. So what was that like? He maybe talk through this idea of affirmations and how that helped you”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's. Should be able to shut that off then because You should have like this weird confidence, almost like faith that you said before that everything's going to work out. So take the leap of faith.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, like because it is useful to be critical, like after. I just gave a talk yesterday At MIT, and I was just, you know, there's so much love, and it was such an incredible experience, so many amazing people I got a chance to talk to. But, you know, afterwards, when I went home and just took this long walk, it was mostly just negative thoughts about me. One basic stuff, I don't deserve any of it. And second is like, why did you, that was so dumb? You said this, that's so dumb. You should have prepared that better. Why did you say this? But I think it's good to hear that voice out. Right, and like sit in that, and ultimately, I think you grow from that. Now, when you're making really big decisions about funding or starting a company or taking a leap to go to the UK or take a leap to go to America to work a media lab, yeah, there's”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's kind of. It drives productivity and progress, but it can hold you back from taking big leaps. I think the best I can say is probably you have to somehow be able to control it. So turn it off when it's not useful and turn it on when it's useful. Like I have from almost like a third person perspective.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I have that negative voice. I'm not exactly sure. If it's a bad thing or a good thing, I've been really torn about it because it's been a lifelong companion. It's hard to know.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, she's great. She's been on this podcast before. I hope she'll be on, I'm sure she'll be on again. You were the founder and COVID, which is a big company that was acquired by another big company, Smart Eye. And you're now the deputy CEO of Smart Eye, so you're a powerful leader, you're brilliant, you're brilliant scientist. A lot of people are inspired by you. What advice would you give? Especially to young women, but people in general who dream of becoming powerful leaders like yourself in a world where perhaps the In a world as. Perhaps doesn't give them a clear, easy path to do so, whether we're talking about Egypt or elsewhere.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What else about science in general about how you see computers? How's the business and just everything about the world? She's a very powerful, brilliant woman like yourself. So is there some aspect of that too?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, none of that. Of course, you want to be very careful because you still have to look at the lessons of history. And how robots can be used by the power centers of the world to abuse your rights and all that kind of stuff. But mostly it's good to enter anything new with an excitement and an optimism. Speaking of Raz, what have you learned about science and life from Rosalind Pic”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Parents, like adults are scared of robots, but kids don't have this kind of weird construction of the world that's full of evil. They love Cool things.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For art, really, because I love the idea of walking around with the robots. As you would with the dog, I think it's inspiring to a lot of people, especially young people. Kids love broken.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I personally like legged robots, especially. Anything that can wiggle its butt. No. That's not the definition of what I love, but that's just technically what I've been working on recently. So I have a bunch of legged robots now in Austin.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Does he have an idea of which robots he loves most? Is it Rumba-like robots? Is it humanoid robots? Robot dogs, or is not clear yet?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a focus nature to the robot. No, no, listen, I love competence and focus and great. Like he was not going to get distracted by the The shallowness of small talk. There's a job to be done and he was doing it. So anyway, the fact that it was working is a beautiful thing. And I think Media Lab really prides itself on trying to always have a thing that's working that they could show off.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, this is where I was built. The cool thing was just to see there was a random robot spot was walking down the hall. It's probably due mapping, but it looked like he wasn't doing anything and he was wearing he or she, I don't know, but it, well, I like in my mind there are people, they have a backstory, but this one in particular definitely has a backstory because he was wearing a cowboy hat. So I just saw a spot robot with a cowboy hat walking down the hall, and there was just this feeling like there's a life. Like he has a life. He probably has to commute back to his family at night. Like there's a feeling like there's life instilled in this robot and it's magical. I don't know. It was kind of inspiring to see.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What media allowed for people don't know? MIT Media Lab is its own beautiful thing because they, I think more than other places on IT, reach for big ideas and like they try, I mean, I think depending, of course, on who, but certainly with Rosalind, you try wild stuff, you try big things and crazy things. And also try to take things to completion so you can demo them. So always always have a demo like if you go one of the sad things to me about robotics labs at MIT, and there's like over 30, I think, is like usually when you show up to a robotics lab, there's not a single working robot. They're all broken. All the robots are broken. Which is like the normal state of things because you're working on them. Some robust functioning. One of my favorite moments that just sticks with me. I visited Boston Dynamics and there was a”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What was it like to be at MIT? What was that culture shock, you mean America in general, but also I mean, Cambridge has its own culture. So, what was MIT like? And what was America like?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That thing doesn't need much forcing. It pulls you in like the worst kind of or the best kind of drug. Anyway, yeah, so yeah, but I do love haptic things. There's a magic to the haptic. Even like touchscreens, it's tricky to get right, to get the experience of a button. Anyway, what were we talking about? So AI, so the journey, your whole plan was to come back to Cairo and teach.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Switch to Kindle. Everything Kindle. So, I thought. I thought, okay Think 30 years from now. Nobody's gonna have books anymore. The technology of digital books is going to get better and better and better. Are you really going to be the guy that's still romanticizing physical books? Are you going to be the old man on the porch who's like, kids, yes? So just get used to it. Because it felt, it still feels a little bit uncomfortable to read on a Kindle, but get used to it. You always, I mean, I'm trying to learn new programming languages always. With technology, you have to kind of challenge yourself to adapt to it. I force myself to use TikTok now.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, but I'm a minimalist. One of the painful steps in my life was to scan all the photos. And let go of them and then let go of all my books.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And read it. Yeah, there's something lost when it's just an email. Obviously, I wonder how we can regain some of that in the digital world, which goes to the metaverse and all those kinds of things. We'll talk about it. Anyway, so.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can I just defend the fax machine? There's something. Like the haptic feel is the email is all digital. There's something really nice. I still write letters to people. There's something nice about the haptic aspect of the fax machine because you still have to press something in the physical world to make this thing a reality, the senses.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Why computer science? Can we just linger on that? Because you're such an empathic person who cares about emotion, humans, and so on Aren't computers cold and Emotionless”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“In your master plan ahead of time when you're sitting by the mango tree, did you know it's going to be artificial intelligence or no?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's nice. So every robotist I talk to, they don't see the human as interesting as it's not exciting. You want to avoid the human at all costs. It's a safety concern to be touching the human. Which it is, but it's also an opportunity for deep connection or collaboration or all that kind of stuff. And because most brilliant roboticists don't care about the human, it's an opportunity. In your case, it's a business opportunity too, but in general, an opportunity to explore those ideas. This beautiful journey to Cambridge. To UK and then to America. What's the moment or moments that were most transformational for you as a scientist and as a leader? So you became an exceptionally successful CEO, founder, researcher, scientist, and so on. Was there a phase shift there where I can be somebody? I can really do something in this world.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sometimes I wonder about that, it's been frustrating to me how many, I guess, systemizers there are in the field of robotics. It's actually encouraging to me because I care about obviously social robotics and because There's more opportunity for people that are empathic.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Enjoying the humanity of other people. And so do you think there's a useful difference between men and women? That aspect and empathy. Or is doing these kind of big general groups? Does that hinder progress?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's actually a big shock for people to realize that they've been essentially lied to within their country. And I kind of have faith that social media, as ridiculous it is to say, or any kind of technology is able to bypass the walls that governments put up and connect people directly and then you get to realize, ooh, like people falling love across different nations and religions and so on and that I think ultimately can cure a lot of our ills, especially sort of in person. I also think that if leaders met in person, Have a conversation that would have cure a lot of the ills of the world. Private. Let me ask you about the women running the world. So gender does in part perhaps shape the landscape of just our human experience. So in what ways was the limiting, in what ways was it empowering for you to be a woman in the Middle East?”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's one solution. The good women, because there's also evil women in this world. But yes, yes, there could be less war if women around the world. The other aspect is it doesn't matter the gender, the people in power. I get to see this with Ukraine and Russia, different. Parts of the world around that conflict now. And that's happening in Yemen as well and everywhere else. There's these narratives told by the leaders to the populace. Those narratives take hold, and everybody believes that, and they have a distorted view of the humanity on the other side. In fact, especially during war, you don't even see the people on the other side as human or as equal intelligence or worth or value as you. You tell all kinds of narratives about them being Nazis or A dom or whatever narrative you want to weave around that or evil.”
2022-09-21 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #322 – Rana el Kaliouby: Emotion AI, Social Robots, and Self-Driving Cars · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source