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“Anyway, her book is called Good and Mad, The Revolutionary Power of Women's Anger. It is revolutionary, and it will be. We'll see. We'll see how it ends, how the story ends. Well, we're going to burn up, apparently. We're not going to.”
2018-10-31 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: 'Good and Mad' author Rebecca Traister · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. Yeah, I have lots of relatives. I'm not a racist. I'm like, no, you are. No. That's what I do. They're like, I'm not a racist. I'm like, no, you are. Like, I'm not going to, you're not getting off on this one. It's a really interesting time. It is a, it's a... But it's always been here, right? As you said. Anyway, I urge everyone to read Rebecca's fantastic book. That she has written about rage. I don't want to use a rage, right? I don't want to use it. You can use a word rage. Anger.”
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“Key. Which is not the same thing as saying go rage everywhere because there are real costs and censure and punishment inflicted on people who show rage in certain contexts, especially women and especially women of color.”
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“I turned her. I said, When in your life did Honduran immigrants ever hurt you? I'm just curious when did I immigrant ever bother you? Well, never. And I said, so why are you frightened of them? And we had this fascinating conversation. It was really interesting. And what I was trying to do was not necessarily get to compromise or common ground, not compromise, because I didn't back off. I'm like, you're terrified and scared of something you shouldn't be terrified and scared of. And it's sad that you're being manipulated. I was super interface about that. And it was a really fascinating discussion because we got to commonality. And I was like, you can't name one time you've ever been under siege by an immigrant. And it was really interesting. It was a really interesting, and I found it fascinating.”
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“I had this encounter on a plane the other day, but I was reading the New York Times. I had a story in it, and this woman in the print publication and this woman sitting next to you was flying the Midwest. And she said, oh, fake news. I was reading the New York Times at those Hondurans. They're coming in a caravan. And I said,”
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“So form networks, listen to other people, be curious about what they're angry about, and then try to work with the people who you share common goals and frustrations with.”
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“Is going to be a lifelong project, a lifelong struggle, and you need here's the solution to exhaustion, is you become part of a group and a network where when you need to take care of yourself, you can and know that you are connected to people who are doing the work and then you spell those people when they need to sort of take a break and take care of themselves. And that's the solution. It's the exhaustion comes when we're on our own and feeling alone and driven into this fury. And then there's no one to rely on for support or help.”
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“And getting that education, I think, is absolutely key. Go to the library, go, you know, read the people who are writing about the history of this because you'll find so much that is resonant and that will help guide you forward. Labor movement, civil rights movements, all of it. So everybody's going to be going in a different direction depending on their talents, their impulses, whatever. But I would say that a universal thing to do is find other people who share your anger because it's the formation of networks and potential coalitions. And those coalitions are complicated. We repeat the inequities. We repeat the racial and class and gendered inequities. Every social movement in this country's history has been riddled with sexism, racism, homophobia, transphobia. So within those coalitions, we also have to listen to the anger of the people who are trying to form alliances with and take it in and really hear it as instructive, including if some of it is at us, you know, but form those coalitions and those networks because this”
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“Stay angry. Don't stop looking at the inequities in the world, like form networks. The most important thing because everybody's driven in different ways, right? Like maybe it's making changes within, you know, your own workplace. Maybe it's running for office. Maybe it's supporting candidates. Maybe it's striking. Maybe it's going to protest and yell. All these forms of anger driving you into civic engagement, getting an education about the history of social change in this country, which most of us like me never had all these historical.”
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“Are you hopeful? Yes, I have to be hopeful because hope, if you're not hopeful, then you're not going to fight and there's nothing for us to do but fight.”
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“Where there is, I think, has been building a kind of understanding that we do have to remake the very fabric, the economic and political and representational structures on which this country is built. That is why we're in this moment where the Power in its kind of death rows, but just because its death rows shouldn't be comforting because they have the ability to enforce our inability to enact the changes that I think increasing numbers of people know we need to make.”
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“Have the power to depress the ability to make these kinds of changes, right? To further gut things like affirmative action, collective bargaining rights, reproductive rights, perhaps access to contraception itself, voting rights. They've already gutted the Voting Rights Act, and that's enabling this kind of voter suppression all around the country. We are in a fight where the top powers are in a position to strangle the ability to resist and insist on not just reinstatement of the rights that were there, but an expansion of the kind of safety nets and policies next time. Right. And it's because we're on this cusp, right, where”
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“That the court, and it's not an accident that this is happening at the same moment, that the court is now with Brett Kavanaugh on it, and this was always what was on the table when we elected Donald Trump and not Hillary Clinton.”
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“Right. No, it's the point. This is we actually can have the individual instances of fury, but we have to engage policy. I mean, and these are things like raising wages, federal jobs guarantees, UBI, stuff that seems unthinkable right now because we're in this moment of incredibly right-wing contraction. But this is the stuff that's on the table or should be on the table, especially as a Democratic Party moves left, which I hope that it is doing. And it seems to be doing sort of from the ground up with like local and statewide candidates actually moving the body of the party because a lot of this is about changing individuals, but it's about changing rules and laws and the system that gives people power. And so there are a million different directions, you know, when you're talking about criminal justice reform, reinstating voting rights for felons, you know, or all this kind of remaking. And the thing is we have to think about these things in the very moment that the...”
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“I love a group of compositors. I have this friend, this VC who's a conservative who drives me up a wall and back down and again. But he said, Carol, what about people who talk about women's rights and then take money from Saudi Arabia? Why do I have to listen to them? What about people who say Black Lives Matter and then they have no diversity? And I had to say he had a point. Right, no, it's a point.”
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“To that end, it's a representational question within politics, and that means not just women, because we know that there are women and people of color who legislate on a conservative side too. It is about, but there also is a fundamental representational change that needs to happen. This country is governed by more than 75% white men.”
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“It goes in lots of different directions, depending on what brought you into it and what you've learned since you've gotten here, right? But so there are so many projects ahead of us. One of them, I think, is about it's not just removing the individual bad guys. It's about rethinking who has power within institutions and what kinds of policies are in place that protect certain kinds of people and protect their power and add to it. So it's about, you know, truly things that can seem unrelated, but like paid leave programs, subsidized daycare, the stuff that happens in an electoral or policy realm that determine, that contribute to who has what kinds of opportunities within the public sphere, right? You can't do as well because you're”
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“They do not get in. And what was interesting about one of these people, they were getting into something that I had some influence over, or I didn't. I was able to call the people who had influence. And they were trying to get into something. And I called them and I said, if you do this, I'm going to make sure they know that you let this happen. And I threatened them. Like I literally threatened powerful people. And I said, I will make your life a living hell. And they're like, Carrot, I'm like, no, just I'm just warning you if you don't do something about it and you allow this to happen. And it was really interesting. It was a really interesting.”
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“It's fascinating because someone who was talking to someone and they were talking about a well known person who's gotten whacked and gotten lost their power. And they're like, do they really have to lose everything? I said, yes, they do. They really do. And they're like, Can't they come back? And I said, No, they can't. And they were like, well, I'm like, no, they can't.”
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“And people are going to lose and suffer and die. And go to jail. And this is our short term future. And I think we need to wrap our heads around it, you know. But and then this other factor, which is can we rest enough control to try to stave off our natural destruction?”
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“I mean, that's where I can say that in the long term, I'm extremely hopeful, but I'm talking the long term, you know, a century long term. The short term, it's going to be really horrible.”
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“Well, if our planet doesn't burn, I mean, that's really the place where the hope hits a snag because we have a limited, something that has not been true or that we hadn't known was true in earlier periods during which people died in versions, iterations of this fight. We have a timer on us right now that I think”
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“Remaking the entire system And that is a project that will extend well beyond our lifetimes, but to which we must all commit.”
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“And right, they're crucial. They're absolutely crucial. And I don't want to take away from that. Just like the removal of extremely bad and violent men from positions of enormous power, that's a crucial step is not having Harvey Weinstein in the position to rape women or less moonz, not only to rape women, but to shape our culture. But it is a trick to suggest, and this is part of like the easy part. In so many ways, it'd be so much easier to think of this as a story about individual bad people and individual politicians, right? And that if we can just get rid of Donald Trump or just get rid of Harvey Weinstein or Les Moonvez, we'll solve the problem. When the real project ahead of us is”
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“In our lifetimes, I don't think it should. This has been centuries behind us and it's centuries ahead of us. And the aberration and the error was in not being mad all the time, being somehow convinced that we didn't have anything to be mad about. And of course, once again, that's an affliction and a conviction that was held only by those who had the power and the insulation to trick themselves into thinking there wasn't anything to be mad about. And the thing that we have to come to grips with now, and this is, I find this especially as there's been talk lead up to the midterms and the midterms, whatever happens in the midterms, whatever happens in 2020, this is not fixed with an election. This is an ongoing process.”
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“Well, it's how the sense that being acted upon could mean somebody questioning your appointment to the Supreme Court as somehow a form of violent and aggression, especially compared in the context to the act of having been held down at a party and had your clothes ripped off, a hand put over your mouth and felt like you were going to be killed, right? And the idea that for some people in power, that former thing, again, you know, that injustice of having a massive promotion and power, the further accrual of power halted or questioned, could be viewed as a kind of mob act of aggression.”
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“In a lot of ways, or think that they deserve it. Both themselves individually At women They have that same group. I think the waking up of that group of people, it's interesting. You have to have had things done upon you to understand it, right? Now I'm a white woman, but I'm a gay woman, and I remember that. Like I was through the period when it was very dangerous. You know what I mean? And then as you move down the stack,”
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“Out in the fact that bombs are being sent, you know, that violence is being done and that that's not new. This is what mass shooters have been operating from some of this violence for a long time. If you look at the overlap, it's anger at women who won't date them, anger at women who won't fold their clothes or that has already been for a long time the motivation of so much violence in this country is fury at the disruptions in power that mean that certain kinds of people who historically have felt that they had a certain entitlement to power no longer feel like they have that same group.”
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“Right. Why are you women who've existed within the system made their peace with it? And in fact, benefited from being attached to those who've had power within that system. Motivated in a lot of ways, or think that they deserve it. And that's where, and the whiteness comes into this because, you know, women benefit from white women benefit from white supremacy, both themselves individually. And that cuts them off from the experiences of an alliances with women who do not benefit from white supremacy, women who are not white. And this is a major dynamic going forward. And those are going to, as the anger, the progressive coalition driven in part by the anger of women, some of them who've been angry for their whole lives and some of whom are newly angry, is going to be met with what was already in place, which was the punitive anger of a power structure challenge. That's the Donald Trump campaign. That's birtherism. That's the call to open racism, misogyny, xenophobia. That is the wall. The Mexicans are rapists, the calls to hurt journalists, that we're seeing born.”
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“And then our next move was well, the girl shouldn't have been drunk. The girls shouldn't have been drunk. And my son said, you know, when you're drunk, it doesn't mean you want to have sex, just so you know. And my mom was, there was nowhere for her to go. And it was great. It was great. I was like literally Parenting finished done, that kind of thing. That's great. But it took him to change her mind, not me saying, are you crazy? You've been sexually bothered.”
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“You know, it was interesting. I think I'm told this story my mom was watching Kavanaugh said, Oh, he looks good. I think he's good. I don't believe her. And I just, you know, he's truthful and something, just something happened. And she's not a Trump supporter by any stretch, but she is now, obviously. My son said, you know, I don't believe that could happen. And my son literally said, last week and I pulled two men off, two boys off of girls who were drunk. And that's his job. I've given him that job. Yeah, I've instructed him. This is his job at parties and stuff like that. She was like, what? And he goes, It happens all the time, like all the time. And they don't remember it, you know, because they were drunk or something like that.”
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“Without representation Challenged here, and that's white women, and that has long been the case throughout our history And those are the voices. They drive me the craziest They drive me, including the fact that my mother is one of them. But you know what I mean? We had such fascinating discussions around Kavanaugh and what saved it was my son who was not put up with it, which was yeah.”
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“And you're taxed by systems that don't include you in how they work and how they operate, which is essentially, by the way, again, the complaint of the founders, taxation without representation. So, yeah, I see this. The one thing that has to happen, and I think we have to come to grips with it, is that there is tremendous backlash. And by the way, the one thing I want to state is that the anger of women isn't always progressive. You also have women who are angry in defense of the power structure that's being challenged here, and that's white women, and that has long been the case throughout our history. And their anger is potent in this moment too. And those are the voices. They drive me the craziest. Yes, yes.”
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“And the tax. I was just, you know, I was talking to someone who was, we were talking about this, and they were like, and then this happened. I'm like, do you know it's a tax on you? You're paying a tax that white men don't pay. Like you carry around a backpack full of rocks that you have to carry all the time.”
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“I believe this is all motivated by a lot of the same thing, which is the anger of the underrepresented, the anger of the subjugated.”
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“Right. So, how do you look at the current state of affairs around me? I guess Me Too would be the most prominent, but there's other gender inequality. Me too is the sexual part of it, but there's the gender inequality in pay.”
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“That's more than a decade, and of course, the activism it extended before 1955, too, those were the two Emmett Hills murder and the Montgomery bus boycott. You know, the abolition and suffrage movement sort of in the 1830s, the suffrage movement begins to take root out of women who are involved in the abolition movement. Of course, you don't get abolition until the 1860s. So that's decades ahead. You don't get the 19th Amendment, which gave some women the right to vote until 1920 when it's ratified. And you don't get the Civil Rights Act until 45 years after that. Right. The truth is we feel exhausted after a couple of years, perhaps those of us who did swallow that in some way, shape or form, the lie that, you know, anger was out of place in the contemporary fixed world. But in fact, we look back at generations of people whose anger drove them through their lives. And in fact, many generations of people who died before they saw any fruits of their energies or labors. But the fact that they gave their lives to those efforts, in fact,”
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“Often people keep going. And that's part of what we're looking at. I mean, we have to remember that these movements, the civil rights movement between 1955 and 1964 and 1965, which is when you have the Voting Rights, the Civil Rights Act.”
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“It's meant to do that. Right. It's meant to exhaust. Although I would also say I've been shocked by how. How long it's gone on? I mean, because I do. I see exactly what you're saying in the sense that, you know, being angry all the time can be exhausting. But one of the things I found writing this book and living through this historical.”
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“In 1881, which was. Struck. Anger, anger, anger, anger. It doesn't seem like it matters. So to a lot of people, like here you have Me Too, and people get exhausted. They get just absolutely exhausted. You know that feeling, right? You”
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“Shirt Yes, the Atlanta Washerwomen strike in 1881, which was primarily black women who were washer women and very tortured working conditions making soap and things in a hot Atlanta struck.”
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“Let's talk, but also if you quell the rage, if you discourage women from expressing it by telling them that if they do, they won't be taken seriously, they'll sound hysterical, they'll sound like children, they'll be threatening, which is particularly true with regard to how women of color are treated if they express anger, they're turned into militant threats in the public white imagination. And if you do that and discourage the actual expression of anger, then women wind up isolated and feeling like they're probably crazy or the only ones who feel that way. But if they express the anger and can make themselves heard, with one another, they become audible and visible to one another, and then they can begin to form connections.”
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“You stop looking away from the things that will make you enraged and you start actually permitting yourself to feel the rage drives people to do something about that rage. And I think it's one of the mechanical sort of tactical reasons that rage is discouraged in populations that have been offered so much less power.”
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“The anger becomes anger propels people into doing all kinds of things. Me too is one of the expressions of the anger. Another is the historic number of women and especially women of color running for office. You have women whose anger at all of this has prompted them to support some of the women running for office. You have women whose anger has prompted them to join strikes, whether it's the fast food worker striking for higher wages or against the case of McDonald's workers in response to pervasive sexual assault sexual harassment. The teacher strikers of last spring, there are a million ways in which the moment at which”
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“The violence is when there's the disruption to how power is supposed to work by challenging it. And then once you see that and you get that that's how it works, right, that the alleged assault, physical assault, screaming, holding a woman's mouth closed while trying to rip off her clothes while two men jump on her and laugh, that's not the attack in question. The attack in question is what has happened to Brett Kavanaugh and his family, right? And that is framed by the president and not particularly challenged by a media that reports on him that then goes with this like sort of idea that there's an angry mob. The women who are yelling at the capital, the women who are so angry that they are protesting, women and men, their yelling is the only power available to them. This man has just been confirmed to the Supreme Court. The only power they have is to hold a sign and to yell through the vote. And so they are powerless in this situation, but they are cast as the aggressive mob, which is the same thing that happened during”
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“I saw everywhere. The violence started when protesters threw rocks. And that was the first time that that pattern leaped out at me. And I was like, oh, the violence done by the more powerful entity to the less powerful entity is essentially invisible because that's just”
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“That was recast by the most powerful in the situation, the president, the party that was invested in his further accrual of power as an attack on him. And I write in the book about the first time that I saw that pattern happen. And once you see it, you cannot unsee it. You realize it's happening all around you every day. I noticed in 2015 when Freddie Gray was killed by police in Baltimore, he was taken on a rough ride and died of his injuries. And then there were protests in response to his death. And the way the media covered it.”
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“Well, this is, so there's a pattern. This is, you know, what I was referring to before is when the less powerful challenge, the ascension or further accrual of power, the Kavanaugh. Thing was a perfect example of this, right? In fact, the thing that was being threatened was that Brett Kavanaugh might not be appointed to the most powerful, you know, he wasn't even at risk of losing his job as a judge. He wasn't at risk of incarceration, losing his liberty, nothing criminal. The question was, would he get this massive promotion where he's going to have the power to determine the right's ability to vote and control your bodies for millions of people for a generation or more? And the objection to his further accrual of power based on credible accusations that he had abused his power physically and sexually in his past.”
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“The punitive anger of those who have historically felt that they had a grip on power that has been challenged by the less powerful whose anger is.”
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“17 In her home. So, where are we now? You have all these various, and there's anger washing across Twitter and social media. There's fake anger. Rushing across it. There's the Me Too movement. There's all kinds of things around gender inequality and racial inequality going on. There's a president who creates anger everywhere he goes. And”
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