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Reggie Yates

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  1. I don't know what it looks like now And then I never had any sort of desire to create it or paint it. I just knew that it was fun and I enjoyed it. And I didn't quite understand why I was getting paid to do it. Just didn't get it because it was like, you mean I get off school and I get to play make believe with people that I've seen on telly and you're going to pay me for that. I remember my mom opening a bank account for me because I did a job and

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  2. Go and get your food. And it sort of broke you a little bit as a kid because your mates were just a bit like, oh my God, you want to imagine? And I told this story to Sam and he started crying. Sam started crying, I think, not because, well, I think he felt a little sad for little Minnie Me, but he also, as a father, imagined his son in that position. And I'm sure we'll get onto family and fatherhood and stuff, but I realized how much fatherhood has softened a lot of my friends and also has made me very sort of cognizant of my journey and also just how important my childhood was in shaping who I've become

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  3. And I was telling him a story about being at this primary school in Isleton where you've got kids from estates and kids from quite affluent homes all in the same school. And at lunchtime you had these kids with Thundercats, lunchboxes, and these incredible sandwiches and KitKat minis, all the things that I never had in my house, you know, you're sort of looking at Timfold that hasn't been used 50 times and you're like, oh my God, they're throwing the tinfoil in the bin. What the hell? What the hell is going on? They're not being made to fold and put it back because you could use it for dinner tomorrow. Anyway, so you're like taking all of that in and every lunchtime, I'll never forget Pat, God bless her, the head dinner lady. Big lady, big lady would walk out and she'd go, free school dinners. And all the kids that were on free school dinners used to have to stand up.

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  4. Yeah. Well, it could have put a chip on my shoulder, and I'm incredibly thankful that it didn't. What it did do was make me so hungry to create an environment where I could feel comfortable. And what that progressed into was understanding that it's going to take me a while to get to the point that I'd like to be at, therefore, it would be and become my responsibility to create that for someone else, to create that for another eight-year-old me or 15-year-old me. And I feel incredibly proud that I'm able to do that now because I recognize the power of it. And regardless of those moments of feeling out of place or being sort of feeling as though, you know, your class is being waved in your face. Like I told this story the other day to a friend of mine who's, I'm godfather to his child. It's one of my good, good friends, Sam Wilkinson. He's a director who I made a lot of my documentaries with. And he's got my gorgeous little godson in his hands, little Teddy, and we're chatting away.

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  5. Going to Sainsbury's was a big deal. Like, we used to walk to Dalston with backpacks to go and buy meat and tin tomatoes and carry them back because we never had a car.

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  6. This is a bit of a weird situation to be in. And then you look around and there's 100 people on set and you are the only black person, both in front of or behind the camera. And you go, okay, wow, I'm not like any of these people here and the conversations that you hear about what people did on the weekend or where they're going that even or even conversations about wine. Like little things that people take for granted culturally, anybody drinking wine in my house, you know what I mean? Like shalo was a big.

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  7. Well, my journey is super weird, right? Because from the age of eight, I was a working actor. So I was constantly reminded about my difference just by being present and by being aware even as a child. So it didn't take much for me to realize you're not like your friends, Reggie, because you're currently working while they're at school and you've been allowed time off school to work. So straight away, you're like, okay, I'm a bit different.

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  8. Versus the bit that I'm walking through versus the bit that I'm going to go to school. I know what bit I want to live on, so I better start thinking about how I'm going to get to that bit of the road.

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  9. Liverpool Road. And Liverpool Road is a long road that runs through Islington. And at the other end is Angel. An angel gentrified years before Holloway did. Holloway is a very different place now. And they had a wait rose. They had a Sainsbury's. And you had these gorgeous massive townhouses. And, you know, if you deviated off Liverpool Road, you'd be in Barnesbury and there were these beautiful little village-y roads. And Holloway was where the people that I grew up around lived and you had these estates, you had every kind of madness you can imagine happening on my estate. Like I remember the first time I saw a machine gun was in my estate at like nine years old when the police were raiding a flat on my floor because there was all kinds of craziness there. And you're just playing on the balcony on your estate and the floor that you live on, you got armed police there, you know, let alone the other times that you see other weapons or you see other things happen. And those walks that I would go on where I would be like, wow, the bit that I live in.

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  10. And his mother sort of overheard and laughed a bit, and it stayed with me. And he's like, it's not passed by God. What are you talking about? Come on. Freeing in. You're in goal, mate. And then you play this game, you don't think about it. And then I remember going back to my counselor state and looking at the one tree that me and Corey used to climb and think, I don't have what he has. Why is that? And then you start to think about these things and then start to understand class and where you are. And even so far as the area, no, I started to really recognize the power of my walk to school even as a kid. Before I got to secondary school, I was like, this is really weird. Like I live in a borough, Islington in North London that has everything from council states with immigrants and white working class right the way through to multi-million pound houses. And I lived on a ro-called Liverpool Road, which is such an important road that I've only become aware of how.

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  11. And I went to Kieran's and I was in the garden, and he had this massive, massive, beautiful Islington garden with several trees in it. And I asked him, how come you got a park at the back of your house?

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  12. So when it sort of comes to me looking at how I've become the person that I am and how my journey has played out the way that it has done, it's an amalgamation of different moments and instances, but fundamentally it comes down to a desire even as a kid to understand and be aware. And it's progressed into this idea of being present and understanding the moment that you're in and why you're there and taking as much from the moment as possible. So as a child, I would always ask questions and I was far too aware of my environment for my own good. So for instance, I'll never sort of forget going to my friend Kieran's, oh no, yeah, it was Kieran Buckley's house. I went to Kieran Buckley's house in Barnesbury. My mum was very protective, so she wouldn't let me play at friends' homes. I know you know how that goes.

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  13. And I just, in thinking about between therapy and also being present in moments like this, you know, yes, there are cameras, but I'm having a conversation with you and I'm learning from you. And that certainly was the case in 10 years of making films, you know, for the BBC.

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  14. And I've made documentaries for over 10 years. So it's the same thing. You know, you learn so much from your environment if you're willing to drink in the information.

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  15. Their house felt like mine, and I was determined to not be defined by the things that we were being taught to normalize, you know? And as a result, I just have decided that that's not the life that I'm going to have and my children won't, God willing I have it.

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  16. And the reason I don't have them anymore is because I recognize that I define my present and my future, my past, I have no control over. Who I am today and who I'll become is down to me. And that also Is massively dependent on my understanding of my childhood trauma, of the things that. If unchecked could define me So I've always been desperate to define myself, even when I didn't realize that I was doing it. So, you know, growing up in a council estate up the road from here in Holloway and having friends who have exactly the same setup at home before my mother met my stepfather. We were a single parent household on benefits. My mum doing whatever she could to, you know, feed the family and move us forward. And that was the same for the other boys on the estate. So if I was hanging out with Corey or Tyrone or whoever

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  17. So, yeah, I was a teenager the last time I'd seen him. So I don't know, I don't really have any bitterness towards the man because I understand him a lot better now as I've grown. And as your friends become fathers, you sort of start to identify just how many people are actually naturally equipped with fatherhood. And not everyone is. And unfortunately, my father just didn't seem to be one of those guys.

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  18. And that's part of my family legacy massively. So, you know, my mum was bitterly disappointed after they did the research and realized that her family background, which was just one village. Versus my dad's side, which was lots of different people from different places in Europe coming to Africa and mixing, so on and so forth. So when we made that show, I realized that they wanted to start the show with a conversation between he and I talking about the family. And I hadn't seen him or spoken to him in over a decade. So we met up just before we recorded and it was weird because I hadn't seen him in so long. And then when we did record, it's interesting, like the film starts with the sequence with he and I sort of chatting and he's playing thumb piano, but the last time we saw each other was the day before. But prior to that, I was a lot younger.

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  19. The BBC One show, yeah, and it's really interesting because they've started carving up episodes of the show and putting them on YouTube. And they chunked my episode into four parts. And on my father's side of the family, my biological father, they've been mixing for generations, you know, like three of my grandmothers are Mariah Carey Black, you know, like they're super, super fair because there's been generations of people that are of mixed origin. And with Ghana previously being part of the British Empire and being part of the Commonwealth and Ghana finding independence in 1957, there was a huge English contingent, particularly in and around places like Cape Coast when it came to trading, when it came to gold, et cetera.

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  20. And that was my mom. It was just a vivacious, big social animal. Like I remember her 30th birthday because she had us quite young and her just went with a fag out the window Little dance or whatever, and like. My stepfather is not that. He's not particularly social and he's quite different, and his dad was in the military. So he was, I imagine, not that dissimilar to your mother it sounds like. So there were two very different types of parenting in my house. And as I say, my biological dad wasn't present. And ironically, we're probably really similar given our expression through creativity.

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  21. My dad's a musician. Was and continues to be, but he wasn't in my life. My parents divorced when I was quite young, and then my mother remarried another Ghanaian man who was also from a similar background. And in terms of who they Were as people. It's very different. I think I get a lot of what makes me for my mom. My mum was incredibly social. She loved music. I've spoken about this before. She used to always cook with this Sony ghetto blaster above the cooker. It's West Africa cuisine, so you're using a lot of palm oil. So there was like the ghetto blast. It's so clear in my mind. It's just covered with red oil. There was no cover on the tape bit, so you used to have to push a tape in, and there was marks on it as to where her favorite radio stations were. So I was raising a diet of pirate radio.

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  22. Changes your perspective on what success looks like. And that was the house that I was raised in. We celebrated every day because we essentially were striving to be happy and happiness didn't come from material goods. It came from success and achievement on a level that made everybody in the house proud as opposed to what was going on outside the family home because culture was everything. For me, happiness comes from being fulfilled, I think, at my most happiest and at my most calm, I feel like I'm able to love and I feel loved. I feel as though I am professionally and personally fulfilled. I feel as though I'm creatively fulfilled. They're the moments when I feel my most happy and they're the things that I'm chasing if ever I was chasing anything.

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  23. You're raising an environment where education is everything because as far as they're aware, that is the only way to unlock another life for yourself. My grandparents came to this country in search of a better life for not just themselves but their children and ultimately ask their grandchildren. And it worked. You know, my mum got an education. I got an education to a point and weirdly my social education and my extracurricular activities have given me a career. More than anything, I think it's the values of an African house that have given me what I believe To be a healthy life. And I mean in every sense of the word. People talk to me a lot about being grounded and understanding what being humble is. And I think when you've come from nothing but at the same time you enjoy everything.

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  24. Yeah, I'd say it's a combination of things. It's a combination of the mentors that I chose, the environment that I was in at home. That massively comes down to culture. And that's why I was really interested in your connection to Nigeria because culturally for me. Where my parents are from has informed massively in a lot of ways my outlook. And culturally, obviously, you know, when you've got West African parents who were born there.

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  25. I am the child of African immigrants. Both my parents were born in Ghana and came to London as children. I was born on Tottenham Court Road. London, London, London. And I was raised in Holloway. I moved to southeast London when I was 14 and 18. I moved out and I've been a Londoner ever since. And I say that because I've lived all over. You know, London's quite a tribal city between football and the club you support and the area that you're from and your connection to it. I've lived all over and I call South London home now, even though I didn't start there and I didn't school there really. But I love it there and it's nice to return to the place that I spent a chunk of my teens My mother 11, I think my dad was maybe 15 or 16.

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  26. Me empowering others is a huge part of my drive right now, working with young, talented people, and I love that I have that relationship with people because I never had it growing up. There was always a distance between me and the person that was helping guide me, shortening that distance for me in the lives of others is what success feels like.

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  27. Time I saw a machine gun was in my estate at like nine years old when the police were raiding a flat on my floor because there was all kinds of craziness there. I mean, you're just playing on the balcony as a teenager presenting kids TV with Air Force Ones and a Mecha Trax. It says something. I'm on the BBC and I'm dressed like the boys that you cross the street from. Subsequently, you know, I've had kids come up to me, bro, I loved watching you because we dress the same, we taught the same, and you were doing that. And when people say things like that to strangers, it's so powerful

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