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“Thanks for listening to this conversation with Rick Rubin. To support this podcast, please check out our sponsors in the description. And now let me leave you with some words from Albert Einstein. Imagination is everything. It is the preview of life's coming attractions. Thank you for listening and hope to see you next time.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not okay. All right. I'm just going to pretend then. Rick, this is a huge honor that you sit with me. I mean, um, What can I say about how incredible of a human you are? You truly are out of this world. And thank you so much for talking today.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I just, and then the whole skit continues, and he wants to add more and more cowbell. And Will Farrell said he wrote that skit because he always heard the song, don't fear the reaper. And there's a distant cowbell. It's very light in the mix. And he's like, I wonder what the story of that cowbell is. Like if we just look at that one layer, who's that guy that was in there? So is that basically exactly how your life is Bruce Dickinson from the cowbow? I don't know if you've seen that skit.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have to ask you Almost forgot So there's an SNL skit with Will Farrell that he wrote about Don't Fear the Reaper, where as Bruce Dickinson is the producer, I always think about you when I see that skit. I don't know why people should definitely watch it. And he demands more cowbell into the mix. And the whole band, this is how I imagine people interact with you. The whole band is really impressed. Like, we get to work with the Great Bruce Dickinson. And then it's played by Christopher Walkin, and he says, like fellas, fellas, I put on my pants one leg at a time, just like the rest of you. But once my pants are on, I make gold records.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Later today Could be so for people who don't know, we were maybe thinking, maybe meeting in Austin, have some barbecue, and now we're in the middle of nowhere in beautiful West Texas. And this is basically a glorified delivery barbecue of my favorite barbecue, maybe one of your top favorite barbecues to one of my favorite humans. So we get to eat some barbecue today. Maybe that's the meaning. Do you have something bigger than barbecue”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It does seem like our world here, at least on Earth, is like a memory. And just like history, it kind of rhymes, it brings back creations of the past and riffs on them, improvises on top of them. And in that way, humanity propagates.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your nature of not wanting to die is kind of like you don't want to go to a shitty restaurant. You'd like to go to a nicer one. So it's just a preference thing.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and even if it's read by a hundred people, a thousand people, a million people, it's just a diary entry. Speaking of doesn't matter, this life is finite, and All of us even Recruit will be forgotten one day. Do you think about your mortality? Tomorrow, yes Do you think about the finiteness of this thing? Do you think about mortality, about your mortality? Does it make any sense to you? Do you think about death? Are you afraid of death?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There could be you re-listen to an album, you listen to or anything you've created and think, oh, there's so many interesting ideas missed.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's so interesting because I'm extremely self critical. So you don't have that self-criticism, harsh. Like, this could have been better.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Whatever ideas are actually coming from elsewhere and are using your mind as a temporary vehicle, that's their purpose to be on this planet. Your purpose is to procreate and not die and eat regularly enough such that the brain is alive. It's a biological process.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, what does success feel like? Are you Are you grateful? Are you proud of the work you've done in the past? Or is there some engine of constant dissatisfaction, like self-criticism of I could have done better?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As the wind blows again, do you have advice for young people? You have a fascinating life journey. Is there advice you can give to people in high school and college? I have a life like yours in whatever pursuit in terms of success of such a silly word, but just find success or maybe happiness in career or just in life in general.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Your view on love, your view on, and those are things don't come up in regular conversations. It's so nice that something about see, that's the pushback. There's something about this microphone, or maybe it's just the deliberate nature of sitting down. Let's just talk. There is something about the microphone that for me thinks the same with the suit. I'm going to take this moment seriously. I've long forgotten that anyone is listening. I'm going to try to really listen to another human, first of all, and to also ask. The questions that are really interesting. I feel like when I talk to normal people out on the street, I'm not allowed to ask anything. I'm allowed to ask only the more sort of generic things.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I do this sometimes. I'll just set up microphones and I'll record a thing for private consumption with friends or loved ones. You get to ask, yeah, those ridiculous questions. First of all, about life, about the future, about the past, about little fears, and the things you miss. And yeah, there's something people just reveal. First loves, all those kinds of things.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's so interesting. I didn't have that at all. All I had, I mean, the wind calmed down outside, but there was a wind before. And there's something about the wind. Now you can think of it from an audio engineering perspective. Like, oh, I wonder if the wind creates sound or whatever that you hear. But I was thinking like none of this matters. The wind is like nature will be here before us, after us, and all of this will be dead and forgotten. What the wind was reminding me of. It's almost like laughing at the fact that we would even consider ourselves important enough to put on clothes. And talk. You love it. You love talking. You love the podcast and just that. Why did you dive into that? Like, what?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's so interesting to think about how that's because I forget recording. I just enjoy it when it's real. Like this microphone gives us an excuse to connect on a human level and forget that nobody's listening. It doesn't matter.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some of it is space, some of it is raw conversational skill. Like, there's something about certain, well, some of that is also just like you have that, as I'm sure you are, there's a legend to Rikubin. And there's like my now friend Joe Rogan, there's a legend to him. And when you show up into Joe Rogan's studio, The legend creates an aura. And he, I think, subconsciously or consciously uses it. Like this is somehow it's nervous, nervous, nervous, and then you realize, oh, he's just human or something. There's a relief. And then, yeah, you could be yourself. So that nervousness, nervousness, nervousness, and it's like, oh, it's not that this legend is just a human and it's just normal. So I don't know how that's done.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, yeah. But you yourself in conversation. So you said that you want to create a, would you use the word intimacy? Like, is it to create or just the most real? Like there's no cameras, there's no mics.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, but I think your response is the right risk to take, right? Because it's the celebration at the end of you want to keep like a people celebrate too early.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Building and building and building He's got the power of like Jeff Buckley with more like So much more flavor to the voice. You can go so many different places. It's cool when it's like acapologist, mostly him. Could do like hallelujah, the Jeff Buckley way, I can tell. It's incredible. That's an incredible song. Is this a new record relative?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's so well told, but it's something about saying, wow, that soul was great shows that it reminds you that there's an outside world, but I feel like there's a way to enter the inside world as an audience. So you just have to do that. So it's imaginable what you say. It matters how you look. It matters. So there's like these generic compliments, not generic, but they sound in the way an outside world would interact as opposed to in that creative thing where you're dancing around the fire together or something.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's so interesting. So, like, to push back in the alternatives here. So, one, But the third person not to make people self conscious, but I find that I'm so torn on that because sometimes when that person, like Evan is in the room here, he's been in the room before he's a huge fan of the Earth, by the way. So he'll nod. Yeah, yeah, he'll get excited. He's like, and you can see that nodding. And for some reason, for me, he's like, yeah. Get it like, yeah, you get excited together. I mean, that third person can be like a really special. So having an audience when it's a friend or somebody that has that love in them.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Made a lot, it's not just music, everything, rearranging the chairs, the furniture as well. You've done, like I said, the documentary, I guess you would say, with Paul McCartney. And you've done a podcast yourself, a broken record podcast, and you've done conversation too. So, what have you learned from that process about the art of conversation? And also maybe what advice would you give to this? To me, about what to do with conversation, like what is interesting to you about conversation.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that's so weird. When you know the components, you still, yeah, the magic. What's the magic? Where's the magic? Like we know the components for stuff I care about, artificial intelligence. We know that components of a powerful computing machinery. Where does consciousness come from? What is that? What is the. Brilliant moments of insight come from. What's that? Even in simple games of chess or in simple word of those breakthrough ideas of taking the big risk that doesn't make any sense and then all of a sudden it becomes something beautiful. Yeah, we don't need to understand why. It just happens.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Science is also tested. The thing I'm a little bit skeptical of sometimes is just the hubris that often comes with the modern, with the latest, the newest, this feeling like you figured it all out, everything that's been done in the past has no wisdom. And we basically solved every problem. There's nothing else to be solved. I mean, that's a defining characteristic of any age. It's like we've solved all the problems there are. We've had the final answers. And our parents are all stupid. Kind of energy, yeah, and that you have to be extremely, extremely careful with that when it talks about when you think about something as complex as the human body or the human mind, you have to be very.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“By the way, is there something interesting to say about your worldview? Because you mentioned psychic and sort of the ways we can be healthy, the ways we can Grown, how much maybe medicine or science has the answers, is there some interesting way to describe that worldview?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Be careful. Be careful, like we really want your career to succeed. Be careful. And that little pressure to an artist, you know, do you want to go a cappella? Do you want to go, do you want to do a country record? Like, be careful. You're already a superstar. Be careful. And in that way, you kind of push people like flock of fish into one fish tank where they're all the same. It's sad to see, and it's obviously in the modern world, there's nice mechanism to protect. Let artists flourish a little bit more because they get to put themselves to the world and get a little bit more confidence, maybe different funding mechanisms, all that kind of stuff.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And that doesn't apply just to music or it applies to art, it applies to all creative pursuits. Like this is generally the case at MIT. Just there's the administration. And then there is the professors and students. And the professors and students are the creative folks. They create stuff, they dream, they have wild ideas that go on tangents and so on. They have hopes and they go with those and they get like on these weird, passionate pursuits and then the administration can often just trample on that. And they set up bars on all kinds of in all kinds of ways that you think you're not actually hurting. But you really are. And, you know, I won't mention why, but because this happens to everybody. And I have a large amount of leverage in MIT now, but even I get a little bit of pressure in such stupid ways to like.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have not lost themselves in the passion of creating, but instead of kind of representing or like making deals, all that kind of stuff, they can kind of trample on those little ideas. And it's sad to see. It's really heartbreaking to see because you know how much trampling there's going on.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's one of the sadder things about art and music is that it's often interleaved with business folk. I suppose that's the way of the world if you have a capitalist system, but it makes Business folks rubbing up against artists. Sometimes destroy a fragile mind and soul To me, like one of the best representations of an artist, honestly, is Johnny Ive, the designer from Apple. And he's just so fragile with his ideas. And you talked about when he has ideas, he really would show it to Steve Jobs or anybody except for a small design team because he was so nervous that it would break. Give it a chance. Let it give it a chance to grow. And it seems like the outside world, business people, PR people, people that kind of...”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Beautiful. Was it Timferris asked you about who's the most successful person, you know? That's the definition of success, I would say. It's exactly the same person. You haven't lost yourself, or rather you found yourself early on.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's just a sense when you make so many. Different albums, and you look back at that creation, it can feel like a different person created that. But you're making it seem like if you travel back in time or maybe do a memory replay, you'll be able to hang out with a teenage. In the twenties recruit.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Oh, absolutely. But isn't music in part like you're dancing in the line, it's part satirical, part serious in a sense, like you're losing yourself in the satire. Anytime you go over the top, isn't that part of Or is it explicitly satirical? You're making fun of, I mean, girls, there's a lot of ridiculous songs in that album.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One of the greatest albums ever. I have to, I love this so much. I just remember. Is America. I didn't even understand the lyrics, to be honest. The lyrics are ridiculous, ridiculous. So hearing that and hearing Metallica, Master Puppets, I was like, I knew I'm going to have to end up in America one day. I mean, maybe now that I'm more mature or maybe a little bit more mature, I realize that was kind of the longing for freedom. It felt like, at least at the time, if this is allowed, that anything is allowed And I think that the rebellion of it, the I guess it's also fun. I just loved it. If you look back to that, because you're a I mean, you were that person, and I just feel like.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some reason that's stuck as it did for a lot of people in Russia is like, wow, America is when you get to say fuck you to the man, the rebellion, the freedom. I probably heard it a few years after was released because it kind of, it dissipates the culture. You get the bootleg. I mean, it's hard to get your hands on. But I just remember, I want to kind of bring that up because it was such a personally important song to me. And yet probably you didn't even think of that. You probably thought of it as its role in the culture here in the United States, like in terms of musically.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sung so simply. I have to, um... So I was born in the Soviet Union. When you're growing up, There's a few bands that kind of, I mean, they're probably forbidden still, but they seep in and you get like bootlegged and they somehow take over the culture of the young folk, such as myself. So on the metal side, it was metallic and I had made... And The, I don't know what you call them, but BC Boys. I remember hearing Fight for Yourite, and it was just like,”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Should also, before I forget, there is a lot of song choices on that CD. I would love to see the full options on the CD that you sent to Johnny Cash that I love. A solitary man is one of my favorite choices made there. Is that a Neil Dimo song?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is that you're not doing anything else. You're doing there's strumming and then there's just a single beat. And it This gets simpler, but it feels like it's a giant orchestra. Back in Vocals. The anger I love it. There's something about such a powerful voice and the instrument's not getting in the way. I mean, the same with Hurt and Johnny Cash. Why does it sound so... Like raw. It's the same as hurt. It feels like you're in the room with them. It feels like they're not even singing. They're like, they're literally freshly mad. Angry”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah. I look forward to your comments, the internet. Okay, you have the greatest producer of all time in front of you, and you can't shut the hell up. That's right, friends. But you do value lyrics. Is there a way to celebrate lyrics?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So man, that young man, but for people who don't know Tom Waits, you should definitely listen to him. And his voice sounds very different now. And it's interesting to see the evolution of a human voice, the artist over time, because that's a young, like boy-like voice, hopeful, less clever, less witty, more simple. That simplicity is there. And he's not, I mean, that takes guts to be so simple, I would say, lyrically and musically. Is there... Of laying that out on the table, there ways that you like to highlight the voice, the lyrics Or there's no one. So, do you, what is the thing that makes music special? Is it the rhythm, the melody, the Or is ultimately the lyrics are always there, or the idea.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And they went through the full journey from fun to darkness in the span of a few years. You mentioned lyrics. So you've obviously produced Albums with incredible lyrics. I think you've mentioned the interesting characteristics of hip hop of rap is that you're writing poetry to rhythm versus writing poetry to melody. That's like one way to think about it. And I'm a fan, I mean, Tom Waits, Leonard Cohen, I'm a fan of poetry, period. Something about highlighting the poetry of it, the power of words you did with hurt. If I have to play, a Tom Waites song. That's like less than a minute long. I always go back to it's one I really love and has just a few lines. Called, I Want You All it is is him saying, I want you This is a 22 year old Tom Weights.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The song Martha is about an older man calling a woman he used to love that she's now married and he's married and they're having that conversation I've been spoken for thirty years and they realize that there's still love there and it could have been a different life, a different world where they could have been together. And here's like a 23 year old Tom Wait writing so beautifully about something that's very, I've had a lot of people like tell me how real that As an older person looking back at that love that you had and realizing it was really, it's still there. Inklings of that love are still there.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's, uh, I hear almost anger and frustration. It just rings out. Clean vocal, and he's so simple, so incredible. And it's interesting to have a young man's lyrics in an old Johnny Cash, voice and heart and mind I had Are you a fan of Tom Weights? Tom Wait when he was younger, this is a song called Martha, but there's a bunch of songs he's written when he was young. It's like, how does a young man have that melancholy wisdom?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I feel like nobody, there's very few people in the world. Thou would see these lyrics in Johnny Cash's mouth and think this is a good idea, including for a resonance.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Anger, regret, pain. The way the guitarists played, the choice of instrument, the layers there, the freedom to give him, to use the voice that's Fading. It's not fading. It's changing. Maybe he's losing. Some aspects of his voice. And it's almost like shaking a little bit. And it's a little bit out of tune in parts. How much of that was deliberate? How much was Johnny Cash the freedom to do that? How do you find that together? Is there any insights you can give?”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can you maybe comment on that to the degree? I think you had a huge role in sort of bringing Johnny Cash back from a different part of his life. It's like bringing something out that wasn't there before. And it was incredible. It was a celebration of a really special musician. And that's a totally new kind of celebration. That hurt is just one of the songs. That's an amazing celebration of Johnny Cash, but Hurt is like at the peak of that. So what was that like putting that song together? Maybe it might be nice to listen to it because I freaking love that song. And as a guitarist, Just the simplicity of it. It seems like every choice contributes to the greatness of the song. Simple, it's crisp, but it's dark too.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“covered by an artist. That's a human being at the end of their life. The rawness of that. I mean, there's also a music video, which for a lot of people adds a lot to it. For me, just the music alone is, I mean, the guitar. Every choice on that, see, the few things I've heard about it, it seemed like almost accidental. I mean, like little subtle choices here and there.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Amazing book. There is something special about running. Everybody has their own journey with it. And even ultra marathon running those kinds of things. It is like many journeys. One that can pull you in. Like, you won't be the same person after. And I try to be deliberate about deliberate about making choices. After which you will not be the same person. And so I'm nervous about the ultramarathon running world. To talk to you about Johnny Cash I mean, when people ask me what my Favorite musical thing is. All time You know, it's very difficult question to answer, of course, but I'm pretty quick if I'm not allowed to pick anything by Tom Ways. I'm pretty quick to say hurt by Johnny Cash, the performance, the whatever you call it, whatever the heck that is, because that's not just a song.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For a person who's going to be healthy, who can exercise and actually perform at an elite level, he's the first person when I, you know, talk about heart rate training, him and other endurance athletes he influenced. He gave me permission to run slower. The first time I realized, oh, I can run long distances if I just run slower and then take that seriously. And I actually fell in love with running very much so because for me, everyone's different, but for me, the love of running happens in the longer distances.”
2022-04-10 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #275 – Rick Rubin: Legendary Music Producer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source