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Ro Khanna

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“Manuchin also said we don't have to worry about automation because it's not happening for the last 50 years. Well, we'll get to that at the end.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And they're all powerful, but you couldn't say one of them dominates. They all dominate, which is really a different situation. So it's super hard to do, say, I know Secretary Manuchin was talking about the idea of, what was he saying, regulating one of Google or something, breaking it up or something like that. He should keep his mouth shut as far as I'm concerned.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Has actually spawned competition. Got them out of the way. There's a plug in the hole of innovation. What's interesting now is that instead of just a single company, though, which those were all cases of that, you have separate companies that are all powerful in their own way. Amazon, Google, Facebook, Apple.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It has not. And you know, Roger McNamy, and I don't agree with everything McNamee says, but he had a very good point. He said the 1956 IBM consent decree, which allowed, basically it said to AT&T consent decree, which said that Western digital needed to share their patents. And their patents were for transistors really led to the spawning of Silicon Valley. And so in the past, the regulation of industries, whether it was AT&T, whether it was IBM, whether it was Microsoft, has actually.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I know that. We're going to talk about them in a minute. But I want to talk about this idea of regulation of tech because that's really what you're talking about eventually. This is something they have resisted forever, even despite the Microsoft trial, which was 20 years ago, really. It was 20 years ago, despite all the attempts to throttle back.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In there, aren't they? Is there a company? We got nurses and teachers and all too. I know that. We're going to talk about them in a minute.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're No, it's big in industry. No, it hasn't been regulated. And the things that probably will, people are getting behind, oh, let's have the Disclose Act. And I love Amy Klobucher's bill. I'm on it. But that's like saying if you were going to regulate traffic to say, well, don't put traffic lights or stop signs. Okay, let's just do some minor lanes, right? I mean, it's such a small regulation. The question is, how are we going to actually regulate tech? And we haven't done anything.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it's not They're not interested in reflection. They start from a crouch instead of a wait a minute, we've made a mistake. They're too cohesive as a group of people. They all agree with each other, which I think is always a problem in any organization. And then they don't think they don't have responsibility for what they've done. It's as basic as that. So when we get back, I want to talk about more about the Internet Bill of Rights and what you're going to do with it, because I think what's important is to understand where it goes. Because I think one of the things that has been very hard is the regulation of tech. Has to be done in a way that's very careful. Although every other industry has been regulated, this one has not at all. You're absolutely right. In any way. Can you think of that? This big in industry”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't know how else to put it. Broader world. And if Zuckerberg had come to him and said, you know, iPhones cost a lot of money and there is a trade-off between privacy and cost, and we're making that trade-off. And maybe new platforms can emerge that will charge a $15 subscription, but will give greater privacy protections. And this is a trade-off that we need to balance in our model. But it's not thoughtful.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When you talk to him, as you have, his two idols are John Lewis and Mahatma Gandhi. So you get him, he cares or thinks about.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People, yeah. Here's why this is why we think it's important. The first thing they did was always just trying to make his business better. Right. That may be, but that doesn't mean he didn't say something worth listening to. They were, iPhones are expensive. That was their next argument. Like, well, he's running company where things are expensive. I'm like Newsflash iPhones are like, this is not news to anybody who's bought an iPhone. Again, not the point. And instead of going, which I would have expected an adult to do as wow, he's got, he's a pretty prominent, important guy and is thoughtful and he's run a pretty good company there. Maybe we should listen to him for a second didn't occur to them once.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Would be the ones that get the most cred You're Well, it's interesting. It's a very interesting question. They literally believe that. And I was like, you cannot, you have to make decisions about things. Adults make decisions. They make choices. And I think what they like to do is pretend they're happy to take the money. They're happy to take the status. They're happy to take the power, but they're not happy to take the responsibility that comes with that power. And literally they can convince themselves when Tim Cook made that comment on the MSNBC show, I wouldn't be in this situation. Instead of listening to his entire answer.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Know, I am Right. And so, what is the value of Kera's podcast? If people like the podcast, then it must be true, right? And you think, well, is that really the value of truth? I mean, so the New York Times should have a rating for its reporters and the most popular reporters would be the ones that get the most credibility. So if you're writing about Megan Markle's wedding, then you're credible. But if you're writing about Rokana's EITC plan and you don't get any likes, then you're not credible. And part of me makes me think, is it that they're not well intentioned or is it that they just never took a class in philosophy or literature? Well, it's interesting. It's a very interesting.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not because of the legal framework, because they grew up with some sense of ethics that they have an obligation to the public. Well, Facebook should hire, in my view, 50 deans of journalism from Colombia and Northwestern, others to rethink, to create a new ethics for new media platforms. It may not be the same as newspapers, but if they want to really lead, right, as opposed to, well, we create answered the hard blog questions and we did third-party verification. And part of it is these are really tough questions, right? So right now they've come out with a sense of, well, rate news sources.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But the default is making a decision, right? They're claiming their value neutral, but their value neutrality is basically saying is a value. And newspapers, if newspapers, it wasn't that we regulate in newspapers. It was that we had ethics in newspapers, right? Why do journalists, why would a journalist not quote me without asking for two quotes saying, I was crazy if I say it, I was responsible for 10% economic growth? Not because they'd fear being...”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, interestingly, they don't want that responsibility. They've talked about it excessively, like that they don't, Mark talks about it. I don't want to sit at my desk account and make these decisions. I don't want to do this. I don't want to do that.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The Philippines or Indonesia or stuff like that. And so, okay, if you are a media company, then we're not saying be like a newspaper and make sure that you fact check every post. But if I were to post on Rokana site that since I got elected to Congress, there's been 10% economic growth in my district. And that's a great thing. And please re-elect me because of that. You know, the New York Times or the San Jose Mercury News would say, Rokana goes a bit crazy, and they would have two people saying, how I'm lying in MSRD. If I put it on Facebook and I start getting all these shares and likes, at some point it's not asking Facebook too much to say, okay, if it crosses a certain threshold, have some verification, have some ethics check, take some.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Say We are bringing democracy around the world. How often did you hear Zuckerberg say that? We're responsible for the Arab Spring.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“In the 1940s, the average American white American had nine years of education, African American four years of education. Today, the average white American has about 13 years of education average African American 12.5 years of education. We're the most educated society in human history. There's no reason that these platforms can't get people more expressive doing things, having their own podcasts, having their own views. I think in the long run, it's a good thing, but its biggest problem is exclusivity. There are communities, the African American community, rural America, Middle America, women that have been excluded from this extraordinary potential. And its second big issue is defining the rules of citizenship and privacy in a way that has some ethical standards. I mean, for them to just say, you can't have it both ways. Right. You can't be Facebook.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, is going to be this answer to all of these problems. And now it's going, I think, too far the other way where you literally have the no labels group or some of these people starting out and the problem is text big and text bad. And I don't actually genuinely intellectually have either extreme view. I think the reality is that the digital knowledge economy has an extraordinary potential. It can connect us in extraordinary ways. It makes the electric potentially more educated than ever before. Think of this one point.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which So I think it's, and I'm maybe nuance doesn't work in modern day politics, but my view is it shouldn't be either or, right? It went from kind of tech is going to save the world, is going to bring democracy around the world. Eric Schmidt Gazzie.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Story Right. And so the president. And Jane Butall now I love Tim Cook, but Of value. He gets Yeah, and he loves to go after Amazon, which is fascinating. But how's the Democratic Party shifted away from debt? Because as Democratic Party will eventually get back in power, this is probably who knows. I've noticed from Corey Booker or from different people I interview, it's a much more negative take. It's because of the election? Is it because...”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of value. He gets that they're fueling his stock market, and yet he probably disagrees with their liberal pluralistic value. Yeah, he loves.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Although, can I share a story with I don't think it'll get me in trouble. So I had gone to meet with the president with a bipartisan group on term limits. It's a different issue. And guess who was right there before our meeting? Tim Cook. Right. And so the president in a moment of when I've never seen him be self-deprecating says to the five or six of us members of Congress, he says, oh, you don't want to meet the president states. You got to meet Tim Cook, the person who's going to be the first trillion dollar company, which made me think two things. One, he probably does respect deep down some of these tech companies. And two, what has happened to our values? I thought we used to admire people like Rachel Carson and Jane Buttall. And now, you know, this is just the celebration of wealth. Look, I loved Tim Cook, but he gave me a sense of Trump. So I think he's ambivalent to tech. He admires that they built something.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When you think about it, the Democrats were so friendly to tech. It was a much friendlier environment. What's really interesting to me is to see them being much, now I'm not saying President Trump is very friendly to tech because he's not. He's oddly negative, which is interesting because they're big businesses. Oh, look, can I?”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. I mean, and I have been critical of tech when it comes to doing more for internet privacy and our rights, but also when it comes to doing more for jobs in places left behind. The knowledge digital economy's problem is it's too exclusive. If we're going through this transformation from an industrial to a digital age, and there are only certain places that are getting to participate in the Unleashing of creativity and ingenuity in all the great things that the knowledge tech economy allows. And so many people are being left out, that's a huge issue. And it's an issue for tech leaders to grapple with and figure out. And I think they need to do more to rise up to that challenge.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, no, I mean, I assume I probably wouldn't get elected if I wasn't, but I genuinely am a technology optimist. I mean, I believe that technology is going to help empower individuals to have better information and better connectivity. I look at the parkland kids who have used these platforms to mobilize. And I don't know if I would have won for Congress if it weren't for tech platforms. I don't know Bernie Sanders would have done as well or Obama. That said, I think there has been, I'm not a...”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sunnyville, Cupertino, Santa Clara, Slivero Mountain View. All the internet. All the internet. Our belongings. Apple, Google, Intel, yeah.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, not the end of the world. It's a little bit annoying. Here you don't, after the initial agreement, you basically are signing your life away.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“On notification, or if they have to notify the FTC. So there has to be some notification requirement. But the process is before the August recess, let's come out with principles. We'll get a lot of the democratic caucus hopefully behind it. And ideally, I'd like to see Tim Cook, Cheryl, Sunder, Satya, some of these tech leaders come out for it and say we're committed to this framework. And what I tell them, you know, this is overly simplistic, but what I say is in the United States we have too few clicks. Euro probably has too many clicks and the balance is in between. Right. So Europe, you go to, I was buying my wife a Mother's Day gift. I went to some European website. I had to click 15 times on consent for this, consent for that.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's not surprising. Think about how different the context would have been if Facebook had to notify people about the breach. People would have been could have changed the consequences of that election. I mean, the New York Times, others would have been writing about the Cambridge Analytica scandal.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Interesting when the Yahoo breach happened, the reason I got that scoop is because one of the engineers was so upset they weren't releasing the information. So they told me because they, because Yahoo was dragging its heels on doing that.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, well, that's not going to fly, right? I mean, okay, if this is what I tell them is this is coming out one way or the other. It'd be great if you get on board with it. And if you have a legitimate criticism, let me give you a legitimate criticism that folks had, which made us slightly change the language, we had be notified in a breach immediately. And they said, well, it should be as soon as possible within three days. I said, okay, that's reasonable. If there's a breach, you don't have to within 20 seconds notify it within 48 hours is fine.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“None of them are gray. At first I started, I reached out to Nicole Wong and Alexander McKilvay, who are the Deputy CTOs in Obama's administration in Todd Park. And I was taking Obama's name in the Congress. And then someone came up to me and said, Roe, don't talk about Obama. We want to get Congress on board. That's not going to do it. But there are a lot of people who are thoughtful. So we're getting their feedback. I'm getting the tech leaders' feedback. I mean, I've said we're open to getting your thoughts. And the ideal situation is...”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“May change. Well, the process is we've come out with five or six principles that we're working on. We're getting feedback from the center of public knowledge, democracy and technology, some of the nonprofits, electronic frontier foundation.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“About privacy as much, but they thought, wow, our data was manipulated possibly to support a candidate whose values we didn't agree with. That's scary that that's happening. And so I think people are waking up to saying, okay, we need to have some rules in this new world. And then they look to the Congress and they said, wow, those are the folks who are going to be making these rules.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Challenge. Where is the Moore's Law going to be for job creation in places left behind? But in addition to the economic dislocation, now people are saying, wow, these platforms are still interesting and great. Most people, I think average Americans like FaceTime. They like Amazon. They like Facebook. They still enjoy these products. The delete Facebook movement didn't really gain much traction. And when I talked to my cousins in Ohio or my aunt or uncle, they use this stuff and they often like the products, but they also realize the dangers of it, right? They realize, wow, our kids are getting addicted to this stuff at such a young age. We don't have really a control over what we're doing online. We have to make sure that this new world, we have some grasp over. And then young people were offended. For the first time, young people I don't think.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We've talked about this before. I think they didn't pay sufficient attention to the country, and that's why we had in part a reaction in this 2016 election where people across the country said, what about us? Where do we fit in in a knowledge and digital economy? Where is our livelihood? And that to me still is the biggest”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This is Edward Snowden. Yeah, Edward Snowden That's the truth. And also, I think tech people have been unwilling. I just had Michael Hayden, a former CIA director and NSA director. And he was saying that these companies always felt extraterritoriality. They didn't feel like they were part of the country. They just operated on their own and they wanted to have their own rules. And now they, of course, have been pulled rather starkly into the equation because of their impact on it.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think when Snowden happened, the culture shifted the other. Yeah, Edward Snowden and privacy. He became affiliated with privacy in the Beltway. And I think there was not as much of a momentum to care about privacy. So some of the conversation shifted because he became a poster child for it. And it was only after the Equifax scandal and the scandal with Cambridge Analytica that people said, look, this is a big deal. We need to do something. But it's a very complex issue with a lot of different interests. And Congress has been unwilling to move something. I mean, that's the truth.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, before we get to legislation, we've got to agree on the principles, right? So we could say you have the right to your data, and then we need to figure out. Obama tried it twice and failed and didn't get anywhere. So Pelosi's point is at least let's get the principles. Let's get some of the tech leaders on board. And I've talked to folks at Apple, at Google, at Facebook, at all of these companies. I'd like ideally Tim Cook and Sundar and others to say, yes, we can at least get behind these principles. The next step would be let's get legislation.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Security. To So, why are Bill of Brights explain what the thinking is? I mean, I know the speaker Poli has said this, but what's the goal of it? Because one, what I'd imagine, like, let's just, if the Democrats get in, do actual legislation. Like you would on a cigarette maker or anybody else kind of stuff like that.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Platforms and allowing that to emerge. Metclaf's law, as you know, the value of a network increases exponentially with the size. So when you have 2 billion people, it's hard to compete. And what are we going to do to foster the”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Privacy, the sense of portability, the ability to correct or delete accuracy, security of your information. And then net neutrality is a part of it in that you want to make sure that you have access to the internet. Now, I think people confuse there's net neutrality with competition. I think we also need a competition aspect where you have multiple service options, but you can't talk about net neutrality in the context of Google in this sense. What would net neutrality look like? It would mean randomized search. So the very sense of having an algorithm that orders search is not neutral. I think net neutrality applies to the internet service providers, but then to the edge providers having real competition, having multiple players.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Make sure that you can delete your data, you can update your data. So I think there are some very basic things. And I say, you know, on the homepage, just like when you get into a taxi cab, you see those passenger bill of rights. You should see here are your rights on these platforms.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Privacy would want. So the Obama administration tried this twice and it didn't go anywhere. So this has happened before. But the basic things is when you want to get your health care data, you're able to get your healthcare data. You can tell people if you want to switch from one doctor to another, you have the right to do that. When you want to get your financial data, you have the ability to do that. People should be able to get basic access to their data online. They should be able to, you should have basic consent on certain forms of when that is collected or when it's transferred. It doesn't have to be as far as the GDPR. It doesn't have to be on every use case where you may be clicking too many times if any time you're seeing an ad, anytime you're seeing something, you're having to click, but it definitely should be more than just one on the original use of that data. You should be able to move your data if you want. You should be able to...”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think, unfortunately, the result to some of people like Mark and others is, well, Congress isn't going to do anything. We can probably skate. That they ask these questions we survived for two days, and now what? And let's just keep kicking the can down and delaying. I mean, that was, I think, the unfortunate result. And that's why when we spoke to leader Pelosi, she said, we've got to come out with some principles Internet Bill of Rights and then some legislation to let people know we're serious.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, it's not their job. And they also don't want to do it. Interesting, Mark has talked about. I think he should have values. He does not. He feels like he should not be responsible for the platform he made. And, you know, my argument is, listen, Dr. Frankenstein, you made the monster. You're going to have to help us work with it, that kind of thing. So when you talk, in those hearings, what do you think happened there? What do you think the result is going to be? Because I don't think there's going to be any result from that.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Not actually having a sense of experience. The second thing is people are so afraid of being portrayed as out of touch, as not part of the future. And I think Silicon Valley has given that Patina of being part of the future. It's why Bill Clinton came out there, Obama came out there. So there was a reluctance to push back on Zuckerberg, and they took some of his answers as fact. And there was almost too much of a deference to techno-speak, whereas this is much more about values. What I've said is the... Internet security or consumers' privacy are too important to leave it to thirty year old entrepreneurs. I mean, it's not their job. And they also don't want to.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, there were so many moments. We're going to go through them all. Yeah, and I'm not a techie by background. I don't think you have to know how to code to ask tough questions. I mean, members of Congress ask tough questions of the financial industry and they aren't having worked in the financial industry or the healthcare industry. I think there are a few things. One, some of these folks have actually not lived on these platforms. So it's not just that they don't know it. It's that they have staff delegated to go on Facebook or Twitter or other social media platforms so they don't have hands-on experience. And how would you make laws for traffic if you've never driven? So part of it is just a.”
2018-05-26 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Congressman Ro Khanna · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT