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Roger Hallam

lines on the record: 69
first: 2023-10-05
most recent: 2023-10-05
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I have twenty more years of my life, and each day I get up and I endeavour to be the good person that I want to be, and what that means in the present context is to be in civil resistance against the genocidal British government. That's it, right?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's something that people experience. You can give it fancy religious words if you like. I don't mind, right? You know, it's maybe it's Christian, maybe it's the fundamental point I'm trying to say, right, is that you can feel joy, you can feel wholeness, and you can feel connection when you enter into this resistance orientation. And it's not despite entering into it, it's because you do, because you return some sense of wholeness.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Universal phenomenon when people stand against evil historically. And that's what I'm saying to your audience is this is not like an accounting cost benefit analysis, right? It's an invitation to be who you already are, right? It's an invitation to come back to what you already are, which is a fundamentally decent person.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, so let me say quite clearly like many, not all and not all times when people are put into a cell in a police station, they have a sense of peace, a profound sense of peace. This is an involuntary experience, right? You know, because they're going into the police station, they're terrified, right? It's the first time, and then they put in the cell. You'd expect them to be terrified, and often they are, and at the same time they have a sense of peace, right? This is a spiritual phenomenon, which is when people stand up against evil, there's a release, there's not attention anymore, does not that violation of your core self? And when you go into resistance, you suddenly feel like you've rediscovered your integrity, you've rediscovered the essence of what you think you are, you return to yourself, right?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, no, no. What I mean is that let me tell you what the other side of the world is, that a will that you cannot say, right? Because that's one of the reasons you don't want to go to this other world, right? There's another world out there, which is a world of acting upon your fundamental belief. When you act upon your fundamental beliefs, you experience a certain ecstasy, right? There's a certain glory in it, right? Which is invisible to a political elite because that's why you're so terrified. That's why you won't act. Because you don't understand, as I see it, that there's a different way to live one's life, right? And you can project.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You've had 30 years, right? You and your generation have had 30 years to look at this information. And what you've chosen to do is have a quiet life, right? And hell's coming down the road because you didn't act in time, right? It's not my job as a farmer to do this. It's the political establishment's job. You've got lots of privilege. You earn lots of money. I don't have a problem with that, right? There's a nice guy in there. What are you all doing? Are you all doing”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A point his neck is what are you going to do to have integrity in your life, right? What are these people going to do to have them? I'll reflect on our integrity.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's a cheap shot, as you know. Well, it's a talk point, right? As you said, you said to me, you won't go to use that sort of routine on me, right?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Right, okay. Well, I'm saying that as an ordinary format in this country. I spent 20 years doing my part of the bargain, which is producing food, running a business, doing my bit. But I'm entitled, therefore, for Roger to go.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Out of 100 on this program. No, you're totally misrepresenting what I'm saying. It's not a strategy. It's not like, oh, those people don't matter because we're just going for that 1%, right? We're not going for anything. We're making a statement, right? We're making a statement to eternity about the sort of people we are. That's a completely different universe, right? of mental activity Understand what I'm trying to say? I do. I'm trying to say there's something totally unacceptable about the situation we're in.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're engaged in that process of confrontation resistance for looking at tactics and all the rest of it, but that's not what we need to discuss on this program. What we need to discuss”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To come out and fight. No, no, no, no. What matters in this life is whether you violate your core values, which are objective. It's whether you violate your children, you violate your community, and you violate your country. Those are like transcultural norms, like going back 10,000 years. And what I'm saying is, is when a culture, like the culture you're part of, right, violate those norms, it's not a matter of whether you like it, whether you want to be persuaded, right? That's like, it's a stupid, it's a stupid response because you have to grow up and realize sometimes in life you have to make an act, you have to make a decision, right? Just as when you decide to defend your children's lives or you defend your country. You don't sit there and analyze it, right? Obviously, obviously there's a place where”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, the audience is the one percent of the population, civil resistance and social change happens when one percent of the population decides that they have been morally violated to the point that they engage in resistance.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A website just up oil. There's various sort of websites, it's easy if you're in the audience, you go on the website, you sign up, and there's a whole bunch of practical details, right? The fundamental point is making that decision to enter into that process. You don't need to make that decision alternately by getting involved in the process. The thousands and thousands of people in this country have engaged in civil dispedance. They enter the process with a lot of fear, trepidation, but they're driven to do it, and they go through a series of steps, right? And they're supported in those steps by other people that have had a similar experience of fear and trepidation. Understood.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You will be guilty of treason. This is a pregnant moment of potentiality, right? For people in the establishment to decide what they want to do.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You absolutely will be taken to court as a member of the British establishment for betraying the British people during the two thousand twenties who have”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, what is it that's happening in your family that you think you will be taken to court? You will be taken to court, you will be as a member of the British establishment.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Maybe in your mind because what we're talking about being in November because we don't know what's happening in November. I'm not letting you go on that. What we're talking about here is treason against the British people. You applied for a”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The glassing the buttons and duties. No, don't smile about this. It's very serious, right? This is the opportunity for you at the BBC to fulfil your duty to the British people, which is to say to the British government, you will no longer cooperate with a genocidal regime. Yes.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The limits to what you do. We have to engage in civil disobedience, civil resistance to the point that we fundamentally changed the regime, right? The regime of digging fossil fuels out of the ground. I don't know quite what that looks like and I don't need to. You don't need to have all the information to act. What you have to have is the visceral horror of what's happening. And what we need to do is in November is go down to London and engage in civil dispute because that's our best bet. No one's pretending it's going to be successful. No one's pretending to stop is necessary the best thing ever, right? But that's the opportunity your viewers have. And it's the opportunity, dare I say, for you and also all these people, right?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Civil disobedience. What I'm clear about would it be? What I'm clear about is what's clear, objectively clear, which is there's a thing out there called physics. Yeah, no”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is so important, you just got to do it. I have no words of comfort, right? Let me say that again. I have no words of comfort for your audience. What I'm saying to you and your audience is get real, right? This is not the time to look for comfort. It's the time to actually understand how totally terrible this situation is and to act accordingly. That's your duty as a parent, as a citizen, and as a human being.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly. This is the problem, right? And this is why civil resistance works, because we can have as nice a chat as we like. And, you know, I can do lots of interviews. Nothing's going to change. What's going to change is the emotion. Of finding people getting dragged off the street put into prison on a mass scale, students crying on motorways, right? This is how change works. It doesn't change with all due respect, right? I've got plenty of time for an intellectual discussion, dare I say, you know, as a researcher at King's College. But at this moment, it's an obscenity to just come on a show and say, well, let's, you know, let's discuss this as if it's over there. It's not. It's in your stomach, Nick, right? Yeah.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, those hundreds of millions of farmers around the world have had the same experience as me, which is the trauma, and it is a trauma of finding out that the weather systems are not going to enable them to grow the crops they wanted to grow, like it's a financial disaster for them, but it's also an emotional disaster because they lose control of their lives. You know, you've got a nice, calm sort of life, dare I say, you know, you don't have to worry whether this studio exists every time you find its work. That is true. If you're a farmer, you can be the best farmer in the world. But if it rains every day for seven weeks, a hundred percent of your crops are going to die. You know, if it's minus twenty in the winter, you're going to lose all your winter crops.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think actually it's not that much about what's actually happened to you for most people. I think for most people most people who enter this situation and say I cannot live without acting. It's due to an involuntary feeling of horror.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I said to extinguish rebellion, if tens of thousands of people go to London, there will be a result, right? That was my prediction on the basis of the study that I'd had. But one of the things about being in this work, as it were, is that it's very difficult to predict whether those people tip over to saying that. I'm going to have to act because I cannot not act, right? And they may and they may not, and if they do, then we've got a chance of saving what's left to save. And if we don't, then we're heading into this must starvation. It often takes a long time.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We may be, we may be not, and the reason I'm saying that is not because I'm trying to avoid a question, right? It's very difficult to predict. Did you know?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's not a matter of whether it makes a difference or not, obviously by definition, civil disobedience makes a difference. The question is, is it at a scale which will tip a Western democratic government into enacting climate policies in the first instance? But then...”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a practical side of what resistance means, right? Resistance is a foreign notion to most people listening to this, no doubt. But it's not like impossible to get your head around. People resist all the time on different levels, right? What we're practically talking about here is mass civil disobedience in a UK context, and there's a pathway which is just up oil, and dare I say people golden. The fundamental point is that in order to create the change that we need in the time that we've got, we have no choice other than to engage in mass civil disobedience.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a fundamental decision, and then there's a degree of practicality with any fundamental decision, right? In the real world, there's a degree of practicality. The fundamental decision is to emotionally connect with the criminality of what is happening on the basis of what is said. Therefore, you have no choice. You have no choice morally not to enter into resistance against the British government at this time because of the intensity and extent of the horror that's coming down the line.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, let's go for the bill. One billion people, right That's like twenty times the number of people who are killed in World War II. Forgive me, I'm why it's worse.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I've just told you there's a billion people. According to peer reviewed papers and I could come in with a whole bunch of other ones and people on this listening program, you shared quite a few different numbers.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But admittedly, no one's pretending that the elites want to kill the poor of this world just because they're poor. But let me just finish. All right.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Motive Matez Absolutely don't get me wrong, right? What happened in the Holocaust was an obscenity beyond words because there was a direct motive to kill. But as you well know, right, and as an illegal person would say, is there's two elements to a crime, right? Does the scale of the crime and the intentionality? And the intentionality is in the mid ground, as it were. It's not like they didn't know, they don't have the information. They do know, and they do have the information, and they're prepared for people to die. But admittedly, let's go back to what just a minute. Let's just deal with this issue, right?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know it. What do you want them to do? I'll get to it. and saying on the basis of understanding what it actually is, right, that it is an evil situation. In total seriousness, I'm not talking science fiction novels here. I'm talking about Hitler, you know, the Holocaust. I'm talking about Cambodia. I'm talking about what happened in Congo. This is a beyond serious situation. If the Amok current As you may know, right, Claps says before two thousand fifty saw a headline in the newspapers the British people will starve.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I heard what you've said What does Roger have? Want me to do this? This is the framing of how I hope and wish that people listening to this will adopt, right? Because as soon as we feel like it's politics, then we go into this utilitarian, does this work? What should I do? I've got to go on holiday that month. How can I negotiate all my other elements of mine?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, first of all this is not politics, right? This is one of the biggest problems with how we frame all of this and one of the reasons why people are so confused. They think that climate change, you notice I haven't used those words, right? They think that climate change is, as you said at the beginning, is an issue. It's a thing. It's on the agenda, does policies, you know, it's got to be fitted in with our obsession for economic growth and all the rest of it, right? That's not what's going on here. What's going on here is the imposition of evil. Into our lives Evil is something beyond politics. What evil is a scheme of creating must death in the”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think what I'm primarily shaped by is my understanding of what people do when they are presented with a catastrophic future a catastrophic present even, and what we know and what we feel in our veins obviously when this happens to us assuming we're open to it is the questions of whether we are actually going to make it or not are not the most important questions the questions that I hope many of your audience are asking is I've prepared with overwhelming evidence of a catastrophic future for my children what's my responsibility to my children it's not like what's my responsibility to my children”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It doesn't mean I've given up. It doesn't mean I've given up. It doesn't mean I haven't given up, right? It's just not thinking that question is important. Oh, yeah.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I expected you haven't listened to me I'm not primarily motivated by what works, right? What I'm primarily motivated by is a fairly inadequate way, obviously, because I'm human, is to live a good life, so that when I'm on my deathbed, I feel like I had some integrity at a time when society was heading for the most catastrophic collapse in the human story”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What important his half hour interview is to focus on the pathology of the British establishment in its treasonous inability to understand politically emotionally what is coming down the line? This is what's avoided over and over again by the media, right? It's this focus on the civil disobedience, the focus on this movement. This movement is not important. Civil disobedience is not important, right? What's important is for the audience to discuss and be aware of this utter betrayal of our fundamental rights in this country is the right to livelihood and a life. And what we have down here is overwhelming scientific evidence that the people of this country are going to be liable. to starve to death in the next half century. That's a substantive probability.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It did, but that's not what is important in half hour interview. What's important in this half hour interview? I'll give you more time if you want.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There's a documentary that shows that happening. I don't want to answer that question because I don't think it's that important, right? The important question, I mean, you can ask me questions and I choose whether to answer them, right? No, no. Let me put another.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was in 2019 when there was 10,000 people on the streets of London and it was an opportunity that was a very graceful, very well organised, very peaceful protest as everyone knows. I spoke to the head police officer afterwards and he said he'd never known such a big congregation of people doing civil dispute as that had led to no police officer having any injury at all. Well”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, there was a moment when the British establishment, the political class of his country, had the opportunity to fulfil its most grave obligations towards the British nation, to British people, and it utterly failed.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What I'm trying to say is the pretense that a British establishment is taking seriously its responsibilities is self-evidently ridiculous given the gravity of what we found.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Front of me to be interviewed. That's what I beg for. Exactly, exactly. You'll pay, but also it's part of the culture, the psychopathic culture of the British elite. It's just not to connect with the emotional reality of what's going to be imposed on the British people.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I've got no expectation of you emotionally connecting, right, with what I've just said because you're part of that system that isn't able to connect. What I'm coming onto this program.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Can do my job and I'll do yours with all chewing facts, right? I love the addition of With I'll do it. That makes it tell you why it's a mind-blow only stupid question. And this comes back to emotional connection, right?”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, practically speaking, in this country it means the UK government and the forces behind the UK government, but the UK government has a constitutional responsibility. As the people that control the British state.”
2023-10-05 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Roger Hallam One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source