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Sajid Javid

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first: 2021-09-17
most recent: 2021-09-17
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I didn't watch Star Trek. I did watch a lot of other box sets. And I did cook a lot more, especially curries. Not much baking, but certainly a lot of cooking and pasta, one or two really good pasta dishes, my children actually, they want me to cook it again, but I haven't been able to do it for 12 weeks now. So, yeah, look, I managed to do things that I didn't think I would find time for, of course.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, no, I'm really pleased. I knew what I was doing in accepting this job. I'm really pleased that I did because this is one of the most consequential jobs that you can have in government, in the public sector today. And I really feel privileged that it's my job and that I can contribute in this way.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Ambulances having patience for heronic? I hope not. And it's my job to make sure it doesn't. But that means working really well and closely with my NHS colleagues, making sure that they have not just the funding, but especially longer term, that we are making the reforms that are necessary as well.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Look, we're entering autumn and winter, and it's not just COVID and flu and viruses. Love that time of year. And, you know, we can all remember times when there was no COVID and we would still have a big challenge for the NHS in the winter. So that is very much top of my mind. And working with my colleagues in the NHS, making sure they got the support they need. But that could”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They're just so uncertain, but we have to plan in the very best way that we can. And that's certainly what we're doing. But it requires me to just stay absolutely focus on the risks that are out there, make sure that given that risk, we are doing everything we possibly can to help mitigate it. Should it ever transpire?”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thankfully, I don't have a problem sleeping, but I know what you mean. You learn a lot. And in this job, this particular job I have now, understanding especially around the pandemic, there are things that have already been moments where you learn something, you think, oh God, how are we going to deal with that? I give you an example I've talked about publicly, that there could be, we don't know, there could be a vaccine escape variant at some point. And that's a risk. It's a risk for the world. And if that happens, as it sounds, our current vaccines won't work, so we'll have to quickly change them and things, and that will take time. So what do we do in the meantime? And that is something that would, you know, I think concern any health minister around the world now after what we've seen, the impact of COVID. So there are things that...”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think my dad, it's fair to say, loved the NHS. It looked after him, his children, his wife, as in my mum, and others. And honestly, I think if you explain to my dad that everyone's going to have to contribute a little bit more because we've just gone through this pandemic, which is the biggest health challenge in living memory, and we're all going to do it together a little bit more so we can look out for each other's health. I don't think he'd have a problem with that. I don't think he'd have a problem with that at all.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You I want to think in text. I am, my colleagues, they want to see taxes as low as they can be. And as our economy recovers, as we're starting to see a strong recovery, and let's hope it stays that way, we're predicted to have the strongest recovery in the G7 next year. And as we recover, that economic growth, I hope, can allow us to reduce taxes in the future. Now, that's a future decision for the Chancellor and things, but just because we've had to make these difficult decisions in the last few weeks about the NHS and how we're going to support it doesn't mean somehow that we've given up on making sure taxes are as low as possible.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's your way of putting, but I think sound money has always long been a conservative principle. Protecting our institutions is a conservative principle. You're encouraging people to plan financially for their own future is a conservative principle. That said, look, I can also completely understand that, of course, everyone wants to see taxes lower than otherwise. But when you revolutionize,”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Another way could have been you just say, you know what, we're just going to keep boring this money every year. We're going to borrow 12 billion a year for an indefinite period. And that's that is not fiscally responsible. It's not a concerted value to do it that way. Looking after the elderly, making sure that people know are giving incentives to save. Thrift is a conservative way. And that's what the new cap on social care will help achieve. Because if everyone knows that the maximum cost they can face in their lifetime is 86,000 pounds a year, they can plan for that. So financially planning, saving for your future.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, it's still, if you think about what you just referred to, the announcement we had a couple of weeks ago that we were going to protect the NHS by making sure it's got the resources that it needs to deal with this huge challenge, particularly the backlog. Protecting our institutions NHS, one of our most loved institutions, is very conservative. Doing it in a way where you're not just going to be endlessly boring and boring to do that, but doing it in a fiscally sustainable way is a very concerted way to do it. That's true for personal person.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have some time get a bit away in the real focus understandably at the start of my new job has been around the pandemic making some of those big decisions. But in the background, there's a lot of work going on, especially around health disparities and prevention.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I want to look at all this. This has got to be a huge part of what we do because when you look at some of these measures, especially around obesity, we are not performing well compared to other countries, comparable countries. And there is more that can be done. And it's the kind of thing that once I'm able just to sort of”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm interested in what works. We have an obesity strategy that I've inherited. Certainly when it comes to prevention, I want to take a fresh look at all areas of prevention. Obesity is one of them. Smoking rates is another one of them. Look at that demobility strategy.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, if you're healthier, you'll be happy to work, you'll have more opportunities. And I think it's a nice sort of virtuous circle to have. And if you can raise people's incomes, they're more likely to stay happy. Well”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't think it means that. I just think that I still think it's early days for me to know how best to do it. But when you look at the health disparities in the country, and we've talked about the outcomes of COVID, but if you look back even much further and you look at where we've got the higher cancer rates, the highest obesity rates, the highest addiction rates, they're actually the same parts of the country. Some of them haven't even changed for 100 years. Yeah, I was in Blackpools, I say, the other day, and there's been significant health disparities there going back 100 years. And so I think there are, first of all, that to me means it must be addressed and it's not going to change over night, but there is a real some kind of structural problem in this case, a true structural problem that needs to be addressed. But also, I think it will lead to better economic outcomes as well.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, no, it is Work is still being done. The cabinet office still publishes numbers, and it's important to shine a light on all of this as well.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, no, I don't accept that. And I think there's work to do to make sure that there's more opportunities for everyone and there is a higher unemployment rate, for example, in certain communities, and we should work hard to address that. And that's around skills and mentoring and lots of other ways to do that. And I think the government over the last decade or so has a proud record of that. I remember setting up the racial disparities unit when Theresa May was Prime Minister.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I think they could be. I don't believe it is. I think that there can be many reasons for that. So, for example, a disproportionate number of people from those communities work. And so maybe they were more exposed to that. Maybe there's issues. If you think about vaccine take-up. Now, there is no racism, of course, in vaccine plans. Everyone's eligible. No, I think people who believe in the concept.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't think it's structural racism. I think there clearly is a disparity in the facts speak for themselves in terms of outcomes and how hard COVID hit certain communities. And in that speech, I talked about how if you look at people either fell ill through COVID and ending up in hospital or sadly died, there was a disproportionate impact on people from black and minority ethnic communities. But it's not racist.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We've got been incredibly impressed by the team we've got in the department, the scientists, as you say, the doctors, all the experts that we have. And it is really, really important of course to listen to them, but that is not the same thing as saying that you must do every single thing they say. And they will be the first people to tell you that their job is to give you the expert advice, for example, and this vaccine is better than that one or this treatment's better than the other one that you could get. And they know that politicians then have to ultimately make that decision based on a number of other factors. And they respect that. And they really have understood that that's how it works. So important to listen, but not to be controlled by the experts.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For example, people's life chances, kids' education, unless it's absolutely totally necessary. And it is the job, I think, of government to take everything into account and make a proper balanced decision in the best interest of the nation.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My job is not only to think about COVID. So I'm not just the COVID minister. And what do I mean by that is that first of all, I'm the health and social care secretary. Health, there's a lot more than COVID. Of course, COVID is hugely important. It remains hugely important. But think about with all those lockdowns we had, that social distancing and all of that and the other health problems it created, the huge increase in mental health problems. Yesterday I was up in Blackpool talking to the mental health trust there and the huge increase that they've seen in all sorts of problems, especially amongst young people, but also the heart disease that wasn't diagnosed, the huge increase in undiagnosed cancer. And so we have to look at it in the round, but also I don't want to take a measure that's going to have a huge impact on the”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That was the wrong choice of word, and that's why I apologize for it. But what I meant by that is that no one should feel frightened of COVID in the way we were in the early days because we've got vaccines, we've got testing, we've got surveillance, we've got treatment. And so it's a way actually you want to reassure people that we have tools today that we didn't have even a year ago and therefore we can start to return to a new normal. You know, things aren't going to quite be exactly like they were before. There were some things as a result of this pandemic, whether it's working from home or things that won't return to exactly the way they were. And that's fine. But I just want people to know that we've made a lot of progress together and we can keep it that way.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It could be done through the World Health Organization, but certainly something that didn't exist when this pandemic started.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I would say probably the key global lesson is, and this is going to be essential in the future, is to have some kind of early warning system so that if somewhere in the world, like we saw in Wuhan at the start, something doesn't quite feel right, there's a lot of questions, there's a sort of local epidemic, then those countries should have an obligation to report that, to seek help, and then also, I think, there's a role for the international community to respond to that. So, you know, rather like, you know, we talked earlier about the economy and being chancellor and stuff, you know, one thing you get familiar with is the IMF. And the IMF, if a country is in serious financial trouble, it has set out procedures about how to react, how to support and work with that country. So maybe an IMF type emergency response.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can understand it at the time because it For politicians, if you think back to the height of the pandemic. If they say what you should do and what's the best way to protect yourself, then some people might say that's too bossy. Others will say, well, you're not telling us what to do and it's all very uncertain. So there's always a balance to be struck. And I can also appreciate for my colleagues at the time, there were a lot of things that we just didn't have the answers to. We have, of course, more answers now, but we didn't understand the nature of the virus enough and how it spreads. There was uncertainty around whether you would actually get a vaccine that would work. So what's the sort of longer term way out of this? So I think by and large across the world that politicians, especially in Europe, did very similar things, but we've all had to learn lessons from this. So when the next pandemic strikes, because there will be one day, then I think there are a lot of lessons we'll all learn from this, and it's important that we do that together, because there's got to be a much better global response.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But obviously it makes you want to be even more involved. But it was accepted the situation. And I tried to use that time constructively as well as being able to do more in my constituency in Bromsgrove, but also thinking about a real actual learning opportunity. And that's why I took up the senior fellowship with the Harvard Kennedy School. I did a project on the economic recovery and I did some work on a commission that I chaired on to child sexual abuse.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'll tell you what I'd do. I was in touch with colleagues now and again, and they might call and say, what do you think about this? And just get an idea of things, which was not going to name names, but certainly colleagues in government.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, there was some frustration, especially at the start of the pandemic, because we could all see unfolding on our TV screens thing just how desperate a situation it was for the country, around the world. I had all this experience and I really wanted help, but I couldn't. And there was all these big decisions to be made. And obviously my colleagues in government work were working incredibly hard doing just that. But I found my, I was at home, you know, the biggest decision I was making was who's cooking dinner and what's it going to be. And so There was that frustration, and you can't help really at all because it's just too fast moving.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, that was when VHS machines first came out, they were, I think, really expensive. And we would, some weekends, bank holier weekend or something. There's a family, you'd go down to, was it Rumbalows or something, you'd rent one of these... HS machines, and then we'd go down to a local shop, a community shop where Would rent out Bollywood movies. And so that was the treat. I mean, I used to want to try and get some Western Hollywood movies as well, but they tended it to be more Bollywood.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, me, my brothers, absolutely. And we would see it and hear about it. And that certainly gave us a drive, but also gave me a drive were my parents just constantly encouraging me, my brothers, whether that's through education, whether that's just reminding us of their story just before they got to Britain and moved to the UK about what life was like and how difficult it was in Pakistan for them. And that made. Me wanted to succeed even more because I thought I want to prove a point and show them that it was worthwhile them making the sacrifices that they did”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, sort of. I couldn't afford it to actually buy it, but I used to catch a bus to school every day, and someone I never met the person, but they had already been on their bus journey, and they used to leave it on the top floor at the back, and I used to go up there every day on my bus journey and pick it up. And look at the”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Have been tell Cid, it should have been Tel Saj. Yeah, well, it could have been actually. And I was listening to those adverts. And actually the first time I remember that I wanted to buy some of those shares, I didn't have any money. My dad wasn't going to lend me any money. So I actually called up my dad's bank, which was Barclay's bank. And he had a shop then. And I said, Mr. Javid would like an appointment, knowing that they thought it would be my dad. I turn up at the appointment and the bank manager says, where's your dad? And I said, Latchie's this Mr. Javid, it's me. And I explained to him, I wanted to borrow £500 to buy some shares, and obviously he couldn't lend it to me as a 14-year-old, but he felt sorry for me. And he said, I'll have a word with you, Dad, and cut a long story short, he basically persuaded my dad saying that I think your son knows what he's doing here. It would be a good investment to let him borrow five hundred pounds. And that's what I did.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I wouldn't quite call it trading. I was buying shares and trying to make a bit of money out of them. And that was when in the 80s we had the big privatization program. So a lot of advertising campaigns about buying shares in whether it's British gas or British Airways or BP or whatever.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, we haven't. There's no need to, that's behind us. That's you know, we're looking forward, that's completely behind us.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, that's his view. That's what he thinks. But if I look back to that time, I don't know really what was going on behind the scenes. All I can talk about is how I responded. But as for Mr. Cummings, he's now not in government. And I just wish him all the best. And I'm just getting on with my job.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did afterwards, yes, I did actually think that, and I think my brothers would agree and others that knew him well that he would a hundred percent agree with me about what I did and why I made the decision and wouldn't have patted me on the back.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“COVID at the time, which meant we were all home together, and it was a time that I would never regret now and look back at it was absolutely the right thing to do.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No idea on the job it was wanted. I didn't. It was very, for me, then it was a really clear-cut decision. I didn't have any doubts. I had a regret, you could say, that I wasn't able to carry in the job that I had wanted for quite a while, but I didn't have any regrets. And as you say, look, I set out why I quit in Parliament. I've been very frank about that. And even now, I look back, you make me think about it again at this moment. I had no regrets. And especially now, look, if you look, I left, I was on the back benches. I literally got to spend some time with my family in a way that I had not done for a decade. And because of the lockdowns and that time, my children come home from university, the older ones. And it was unexpected in a way because we were lucky family. We didn't fall ill from.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, she already knew, of course. Probably like the whole country, she was really surprised and actually what she said to me was something similar you've just said, which was, but Sajid, I thought you always wanted this job. You talked about what it would be like to be Chancellor. You worked with a Chancellor before and talked about how much you enjoyed that. But as soon as I explained to her why she understood immediately and completely agreed with me, did you?”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Obviously, I've done that in the three prime ministers. I like to think that they all called on me because they thought I could do a good job. I've enjoyed each of those jobs. And I think in each one, I've got something done. It can sometimes be a bit frustrating, really, that you're just getting going, some major reforms and things, and then you get moves. But that is the nature of our politics.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did, and obviously since then, that time from being a teenager, I've got to know more people. I visited many care homes in my own constituency, for example, I have relatives and care homes. Like most people, but I never forget Margaret because I was the first person that I really had that kind of experience with and just trying to understand and also understand the loneliness of it. And I still find it's really special to walk into a care home and I love chatting to the residents and they always remind me of Margaret.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Try to take her something, and I just sit there and chat with her. And she thought I was a bit, you know, she thought like haven't you got better thing to do, you like some 18-year-old student just arrived university? But I found it really rewarding. But most of all, because I could see how it really lit up her face. She'd be waiting for me by the window, literally looking out for me on a Saturday morning, and I'd walk there from my university residences. And that happened for a couple years, and then sadly she passed away. And I found that difficult at the time. But that was my first experience of a care home and really understanding what they are and how they look after people.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The first time I ever stepped inside a care home, I won't forget because I just started at Extreme University. I was a new student. I was 18 years old. And in Fresher's week there were a number of societies to join and I noticed one called Community Action and it was as it sounds going to do something in community. So I joined up and then they had various things that you could help within your community. And obviously the community being Exeter in this case. And then they suggest to me, why homes in Exeter and some of the residents are very lonely and they don't have any family or the close friends to visit them. And so I did that and I started going to a care home as a visitor regularly visiting a resident who then became a really good friend. Her name was Margaret. And she was in her late 80s, had been in the care for years, and I would go most Saturdays I'd go.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I know. That's what I thought. And my brother's thought joke about it today. Then they say, oh, look, you sure you haven't got a pair of scissors inside you or something. You can have all of them.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“The surgeons thought it sounds funny even to say it now, but they couldn't find an instrument when they sort of finished operation and they thought they might have left an instrument inside me. So they had to cut me open again to literally look to see if they'd left an instrument inside me. So Bobby wasn't the best possible experience one could have with the NHS, but it was many decades ago.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“My first memory of the NHS is actually going with my mum to the GP surgery, not because I was ill, but because she needed someone to translate. And so those were my first memories, and I must have seven or eight, I can remember those times, happened many times. Fortunately, I haven't been in hospital much, but only once. And I was eight, eight to nine, and I had appendicitis. I was living in Rochdale and went to the hospital to have my appendix out. I remember it because it was just so painful. I remember my dad carrying me around and trying to distract me because it was so much pain. Ambulance coming to get me. And I don't remember the operation and stuff. I remember then coming home a week or so later. And then being told I had to go back to hospital again. And I thought, no, I'm feeling much better. Why do I have to go back again? And the reason I was given was that the hospital.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I did. I did, but I didn't have to think about it for long because by then, obviously, we all knew the whole country knew what's more important than health at the moment.”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can't say I expected it. I mean, first of all, obviously, I was back on the back benches and I wasn't sitting there expecting to go back into cabinet anytime soon. And I was making the most of my time on the backbenches and doing a lot of other stuff that otherwise I couldn't have done. But when Matt got into trouble, there was speculation. If Matt doesn't stay, you might get the call. And so it did obviously get me thinking about it. And you had to...”
2021-09-17 · Political Thinking with Nick Robinson · The Sajid Javid Health Secretary One · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source