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Sally Quinn

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“We weren't together then. Oh, you weren't. That's right. We got together in Watergate, which kind of was before that was before that. That's right.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then Steven Spielberg has directed this film, which is coming out in December about Pentagon papers, and Tom Hanks is playing Ben. And Meryl Street was playing Catherine Graham. And so there's a lot to look forward to.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I've had it in mind for about three years. And then after that memoir. I'll do another memoir. You got a lot to say. And I've got a lot of, you know, I do stuff for the Washington Post live. And I do panels. And I'm doing something, a couple things at the Harvard Kennedy School. And, you know, just things come along and they're releasing Ben's book, A Good Life in November, Simon& Schuster, and Bob Woodward and Carl Brimstein have written the foreword and I've written the afterward. And then there's a documentary that my son, Quinn Bradley, is co-producer, HBO documentary about Ben coming out. Oh, wow.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm writing a novel. It's a love story. It has nothing to do with Washington or politics, I'm happy to say. And then I'm going to do a Washington memoir. This is a spiritual. I think you have to. I'm going to do a Washington memoir, but I just needed, I was really sick of myself after this book. And I'm going to even be more sick of myself after this book tour. Yeah. Yeah. And so I need a palate cleanser. So this novel will be a novella.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, they're looking at me and you, you know, here I have had Quinn who He's sick. He's 35 now. He's learning disabled. And we went through horrible time with him and with my mother and father and Ben. That's not necessarily what on paper looks like a charmed life. But the fact is that I've gotten so much out of it that it feels charmed to me in a way.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then I would see these children in wheelchairs with shaved heads on ivies, and they were dying of cancer. And I would sort of get annoyed because I thought, I want to feel sorry for myself. But I couldn't because these children were dying. And Quinn didn't die. And it was sort of like, you know, you feel sorry for yourself because you have no shoes. And then you see the man who has no feet. Yeah, right. So I feel like that if you think about, I mean, I do sound Pollyannish, and I wasn't this way before. No, you weren't. I really was not. But if you do think about what's good in your life instead of what's bad, if you stop saying, poor me, poor me, and start thinking lucky me, I have this or that, I have that, or, you know, I mean, people will say to me, oh, you have everything. You know, you have the charmed life. You have this. And I think.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What? You need to move to San Francisco. Well, no, but I mean, if you think about it for a minute, if you think about it, you know, when I start feeling sorry for myself, I used to think when I went into children's hosp”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I just think that we don't concentrate enough on the things everybody is so stressed out all the time about everything. And I mean, this is so trite, but gratitude really works.”
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“On Labor Day weekend, I was in the kitchen Sunday morning, and Chloe at age five came running through the kitchen, my kitchen with a mask on, and she ran around the island a couple of times with Teddy Roosevelt, the dog, and barking, and then went hiding and then dashed out. And I just sort of thought that's magic. You know, it was just this wonderful little moment.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I think that that's what spirituality is. I mean, Jesus talks about the least of these, but you look at the people who are suffering. And I look at people around the world who are so religious, and it's really the most religious people are the poorest people and the most downtrodden people and the people who are... Having the most terrible lives and you think, how could they possibly be happy? But they find happiness in little ways, and it's what my book is about finding magic. Is that people don't stop and think about the things in everyday life that are magical, that give them magic. I mean, I was in my kitchen the other day. My son's girlfriend and her child, and their dog moved in”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And these people have got real meaning in their lives, and I felt that, you know, being able to take care of Quinn, my son, and my mother and my father, and then Ben during that time just gave, it was the happiest in an odd way time of my life because I really had meaning in my life. And, you know, I have a wonderful son now who's got a fiance and a little daughter. And so I think that people just get too involved in themselves. And it's like me, me, me. I mean, this is an old story, but I just think that You know, if you reach out and do things for other people, it just makes you feel better.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We need a nap, and Ivanka says you need to have a massage once a week and all that kind of thing. But I think that it's, you know, and, you know, these books are really written for the 1%. How do you be happy? And I think that people go about it the wrong way. They are seeking happiness. They're seeking, you can't find meaning by seeking happiness. You have to seek meaning in order to find happiness. And so I think that looking for meaning and the things that make you feel good, and usually it has to do with loving and taking care of other people. And I think, you know, I look at these people who are AIDS workers and rescue workers and people in Africa helping the starving. And I just admire them so much.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Or the messages you're trying to do. One of the things I say in my book, because you know, there are all these books about happiness and the happiness project. And I are.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I think all of these books and these movies are really valuable in the sense that people can say, oh my God, you know, where are our values? And I think that the American people right now are of value. They do have values and they do have morals and ethics. And I think that someone needs to appeal to that instead of their worst instincts. So, I think that in that sense, I think the handmaid's tale has served, has done a great service. It's a perfect.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's lots of different Republicans. And a lot of evangelicals don't go to church. They call themselves Christians, but sometimes they don't leave very Christian lives. And there is this whole, I think, very disturbing. Aspect of some evangelicals, it's called the Prosperity Gospel. And I think if Trump had a religion, it would be the prosperity gospel, which is that God wants you to be rich. And he wants you to prosper. And if you are prospering, you're rich, then God must favor you, and therefore look at Donald Trump as rich. And he's made all this money, and he's this big businessman, and therefore God must favor him. And I want to be rich. And so anyway, followed Trump and do what he does and do what he says, then I'm going to be rich, which will mean that God will love me.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, it's very cynical. Very, very cynical. If you ask some of them, they'll say, Well, you know, Supreme Court anti abortion. But I don't think that that's all true. I mean, and I have questions to ask a Trump supporter is would you approve of the way he behaves? Would you behave the same way he does and talk about the things? Is this what you would teach your children? And what would Jesus do? And I think that they would all be very uncomfortable with those questions. But I do think that there is a large, and by the way, the evangelical, the word evangelical is meaningless because there are so many different, I mean, there are a lot of liberal and left-wing Republicans.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Who we are as a people now. As a nation. And, you know, I mean, Hillary is famous for her line about a basket of deplorables. And, you know, I mean, people who are not Trump supporters are denigrating of Trump supporters. And some of them... White supremacist and racist. They're certainly true. Um but I really believe that That the message should be keep America great, not make America great again, because America's never stop being great. And I just think that That everyone has certainly Trump has appealed to the lowest. And the and the the least of our question, why do evangelicals?”
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“And they're sort of thinking, you know, when you look at Dhaka and the dreamers, they're thinking, these are real people who are doing good things. And why we need to think about this.”
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“And I feel that people are sort of, because everybody's floundering and everybody's looking for answers and looking for meaning and they're not getting it in the tweets and they're not getting it in the Charlottesville demonstrations.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Um I think, you know, I really think that we have reached the depth in a way. I think that politics has hit the bottom. In this last election and with this administration, and I think there's nowhere to go but up. I happen to be really optimistic”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Think about, yeah, and so I think it is a coarsening because it's so anti-intellectual. And it's also, I find that so many people in the country, so many voters seem to be uninformed and to not care about being uninformed. Right. If you say, did you know about our position on NATO Don't know and they don't care. What about the Paris Accords? They don't know when they don't care. And so I think that people don't read enough and they don't have time to read or they don't take the time to read and to be informed. And so what they get are these tweets. And I mean, I can understand why Donald Trump wants to tweet because he can go over the head of the media and he can reach his followers But there's nothing enlightening about it or informative about it. So what happens to politics”
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“Wrong reads of interesting things, and I find that I read two or three of them just because I want something. I want to be able to have something.”
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“Or may be interesting. But I think, you know, and a lot of people are going much toward long-form journalism. I mean, a playbook, for instance, has weekend reads and they're long. Yeah, they're great.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think mainly it's thoughtlessness. You know, you can't in 140 characters say anything really thoughtful. You can say something clever.”
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“I think that the big problem is not what's wrong with the internet or what's wrong with your phones. It's the fact that that's only one part of your life and that it does get in the way of communicating with other people. And so, you know, at my dinners, I love it when there are lots of wine and good food and candles and everybody's sort of sitting around and having a conversation and talking about anything silly or whatever else it is. A lot of times about things that you've seen on your website. But still being able to be alone and have that private time without having the interference of some sort of Device”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I think that having labyrinths is hugely important. And I mean, not having labyrinths, but being able to meditate. But spending time, you know, being alone. And also spending time with your friends. I love, I mean, I'm a big believer in ritual, which I never was before. And I always thought it was kind of sentimental and mawkish. And now I'm just a total. Not about rituals, and one of my favorite rituals is dinner Of having dinner, and when Quinn was growing up, Ben, the three of us would have dinner every night in the dining room with candles, and we would sit and we would talk. And no phones. No, you know, and it drives me crazy when you're at a dinner party or you're out with somebody at a restaurant and they're sitting there on their phone. I mean,”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But it seems to me that I find, I mean, this summer I was at the Martha's Vineyard, I find that turning off. My cell I mean, this doesn't mean that I'm not dependent on it because I couldn't function without my computer. And, you know, that's how I get my information. How I communicate with people. But I'm not obsessed with it. And I don't. You know, I'm not, I have friends who just say, okay, I'm going to go offline for three days because I can't stand it. I don't do that because I'm not obsessed with it. But I just find that there is something to be said for meditation, and I do meditate every day for about 10 minutes or 15 minutes, sometimes longer. I have a labyrinth. Yes, I know, yeah.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“and that which is what my book is about. And they're not finding it in the churches, unfortunately. Right. And so they've got to find it somewhere else. They're certainly not finding it online. And you can go online and you can go to these spiritual websites and you can go to these meditation websites”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, I think I've ever been felt how lost people feel now. And I do think that people are searching for meaning in a really serious way.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, well, good. And you can't Probably, yes, I do. And I want to bring good energy back to you. You can ask whoever you want, Sally. Don't let people be judging. I live in San Francisco, so there's hexing on almost continually.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But the point is that after the third, after my brother really got after me, this was 35 years ago. I thought, this is not a good idea. So I just stops it. And now I only wish people well. Oh, good. And you can't know the number of friends of mine who have said you must put a hex on Donald Trump. And I said, I'm not going to do it. If you want to do it, if you want to wish him ill, then go ahead. Not me. I only wish everybody well. Because first of all, it doesn't make me feel good. And it sort of feels like when you wish somebody ill, you're just putting out bad. And I want to bring good energy back to you. You can do whoever.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And even though you, and I said, this is ridiculous. I'm not. Ben thought it was ridiculous. And he said, I don't care, just don't do it. You're putting bad energy out no matter what you think.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Eliatti, who is one of the great religion scholars, and he said, I was telling him about this. And he said, you know, you got to knock this off because it comes back at you three times.”
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“Yes, I know. This is true, but my brother is a PhD in religion at the University of Chicago and studied under Mercedes. Oh, that was interesting.”
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“He's thriving online. All this stuff is thriving. All I can tell you about Nancy Reagan is I was asked to do a piece defending her because all of my friends knew that I went to an astrologer and I said no because I don't want to get killed either. But, you know, her husband had been shot and she was terrified. And so she turned to astrology.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I mean, people, you can call it what you want to call it, but people might wish Donald Trump ill. Is that a hex? I don't know. I mean, it depends on what you want to call it. Right.”
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“and Barry and Daddy knew about mother and me and our family and Ben would go over there and they'd say, you know, I want to cross these Quinn girls. They got power. So there were three times when I put, quote, a hex on somebody or I decided that people had hurt me in some way. And so what I wanted was for them to feel the same hurt I had felt.”
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“And you can either put a good hex or a good spell on somebody or a bad one. Right. And so, you know, I didn't think anything of it. I mean, all of my friends knew this about me because I read poems and I read tarot cards and I I've always gone to a straw. I have one wonderful astrologer I go to. And so they all thought it was funny. Everybody called me witchy. And so I do have some psychic abilities, as did my mother and her sister and my aunt and my sister. Not all the time, but every once in a while. So that was just part of who I was. And so when I talked about Hexes, people laughed. Ben thought it was hysterically funny. And Barry Goldwater, who was a friend of my parents, would sit in my parents' living, he lived with my parents for a while.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the knives under bed. And, you know, the word hex is more used in the south. I think, and I maybe should have been a little more explicit in the book about hex because it can also be a spell, or it can be a wish or a prayer.”
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“And so this was all part of what I call embedded religion. It's what you grow up with. Yeah, I was telling you about my grandmother. She had the malochio and the oil.”
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“My family were Presbyterian Scots who had come down from North Carolina and built this big plantation house. And my aunt Ruth was the nice Presbyterian lady who played the Oregon and Church every Sunday. But what they really believed and practiced was the occult. And the Scottish stones and time travel, and they believed in all this, the psychic phenomena. And ghost and the tarot and astrology and palmistry and voodoo. And so I learned voodoo. My mother actually put a hex on somebody.”
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“You know, it's all about magic. The cult and voodoo. Cult and voodoo and hexes. And I mean, you can't go to New Orleans every other shop has voodoo dolls and hexes and all that kind of thing.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's kind of silly, I think. Well, the thing about it is that I'm from Savannah, Georgia, and my family is from Statesboro, which is a little tiny town. It's of Deep South. And part of the culture of the Deep South is this whole midnight in the Garden of Good and Evil.”
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“And it was certainly the most spiritual experience I ever had. And so ultimately I came to the conclusion that the meaning of my life was taking care of other people and love. Ben was in a study at Harvard called the Grant Study and the Sky George Valiant studied these guys, Jack Kennedy and Ben, all the way from Harvard until they died. There are few left. And he wrote a book about it and said, after studying these men all their lives for 80 years or whatever, that it all happiness came down to one thing and that was love, full stop. And so I then finally had to sort of decide what I was. I believe and I don't believe that there's a personal God, but I do believe in a creator. And I can't believe that there was nothing and then there was something. But I probably call myself a transcendentalist.”
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“But I began to realize that what gave my life meaning was taking care of the people that I loved. and taking care of Ben at the end, even though it was horrible, was probably the happiest time we ever had in our marriage together.”
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“But so ultimately the book is about what is what gives your life meaning and one of the things that became clear to me during that time because Quinn was sick for so long and I took care of him and I had to quit my job and then my mother had a stroke and she was partially paralyzed and had Some cognitive issues, and my father got sick, and I was with both my parents when they died And I was with Ben when he died. And so I began to try to figure out what made me happy, what gave meaning. And so I was looking for a different kind of spirituality. I still hadn't been able to identify what I was. Right.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so I started finding these stories that had episodes in my life that had some meaning or that illuminated something or that were moments of transcendent or moments of magic. The book is divided into three. The middle part is the mystery of God and the mystery of religion and spirituality. And then the last part is about what really gives my life meaning. And so as I was writing these stories, it was kind of like breadcrumbs through the forest, each one sort of led on, each one sort of had a little epiphany at the end. or some little enlightenment moment of enlightenment and that led the way all the way through the book until I came to the end of the book is a year after Ben died when I had a yard site for him which is like a Jewish ceremony is the end of the year first year of mourning”
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“I mean, he was struggling and he lost his memory, but he never lost his bendness. He always still had his personality and still has it, and he always knew me, even at the very end. And so then I started backing up and thinking, okay, well, how I was an atheist, and I suddenly realized that I was not an atheist, but I didn't know what I was.”
2017-09-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Sally Quinn, author, "Finding Magic" · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Absolutely. Right. Although I have to say I ran into him at a Washington Post thing upstairs, and it was a room full of people, and he was still the most vibrant person there. And obviously struggled.”
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“And so I didn't write anything. I mean, I just didn't know what to write, and I didn't have anything, and I had nothing in me to write. And then after Ben died about two or three weeks later, I sort of thought, I've got to write this. I've got to get this out. Which is not what I was supposed to be writing. But I wrote about his decline and his death. And so then, and I thought, well, maybe that's how I'll begin the book. But then I thought, no, Ben is so vital and so full of energy and everything. I don't want to start him as this demented old man. Right.”
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