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Sally Quinn

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“Tai Chi And Well, the idea was, well, when I first got signed a contract, it was about it was to write about how I, as an atheist, started a religion website. That's what the book was going to be about. Right, right, right. And just at that point, Ben, my husband had been diagnosed with dementia. In the last two years of his life, he really was going downhill.”
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“And I do go to services at different, different, I'll go to synagogue, I'll go to Yom Kippur this week. I do go to mosques. I do go to various churches from time to time. Just because I'm interested in it, and that's part of what I do, but it's not something I do on a regular basis because I don't get what I need from it. Right.”
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“But they don't go to church. They're not involved. They're in congregations and they're bored by it. It doesn't speak to them. Going to these services and listening to the same prayers in the minister and the choir and all that just doesn't work for them. And they're looking for some other kind of spirituality or some connection to the transcendent or to the divine. And in a way, this is what my book is aimed at those people because I am not part of any organized religion at all.”
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“I remember Frustrated. Yeah. And I just can't believe that there's not a way that you can get people online and on the internet to connect in some way I think one of the problems is that I think that people are turned off by organized religion. And I think that you now we have about twenty-five thirty percent. Over almost a third of the people in this country will identify themselves as nuns, NONES. That means if you say, what's your religion, they'll say none. But they are spiritual.”
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“And so she ended up doing just this one thing once a week called Super Soul Sunday. Because she just, the whole religion thing that she wanted to do, the whole website or the whole network just didn't work.”
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“She wanted her website to be spiritual, all spiritual all the time. She was saying this in the article and that she realized that that's not what people wanted, that people want a snack.”
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“That was really interesting because online. I know it. And this is what, and you know, then CNN had a religion website and that went out of business and Huffington Post had a religion website. I mean, they still do stuff, but Paul Rauschenbush quit. And so that sort of didn't work. And it's just, I can't figure it out. I mean, the one thing... That I think, well, actually, I was reading a piece in Vogue magazine about Oprah, who, you know, when she started, she said.”
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“And he finally couldn't deal with any more, and Rupert Murh was about to then start, he wanted to do a religion, a television. Show and or television actually a network religion network. And also the website. And so he bought it from Steve. Right.”
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“And they got a lot of ink and they did really well. But what was happening, Steve said, because he once said to me, you're breaking my heart because you're doing all the political and foreign policy stuff that I wanted to do in order to make money and sell ads, we had to dumb it down. He said, I ended up sort of publishing Red Book, How to Get Your Lover to be spiritual with you, that kind of thing.”
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“Right, exactly. And so we're trying to figure out a religion app that will work because the first one was beliefnet. And that was really successful. Steve Waldman founded that with Mark Talber, who's now my publisher at Harper One.”
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“And we've been struggling a little bit because I think that the original premise just didn't work now. So we are trying to re-figure this and make it into an app. And have more sort of daily thoughts. I think that the whole idea of religion and spirituality has changed enormously. And, you know, it's really interesting because There are so many, I mean, the majority of people in this country are religious. Right. And yet not one single religion site has ever made it.”
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“People were writing columns, and then we sort of got rid of the panel idea because People just didn't want to have to write on a regular basis. And so we started various columns and people writing in and getting people. And it was just fascinating. And then I was doing a column for the post about religion as well. And that went on very well for about six or seven years. And then the post started losing money. And that was right before they decided to sell. But what got cut first was religion. So suddenly I lost my budget and I just didn't have anybody. I mean, I lost my editor and my columnist. Sure.”
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“But we changed the name to on faith. I hired a religion columnist, Lisa Miller, who was the religion at Newsweeks, who was fabulous. And we had a team of about seven people.”
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“Well, if you're going to study history and you're going to study philosophy and you're going to study art and music, religion is so much a part of all of that.”
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“No, it was completely, and Ben didn't get it. Ben kept saying, geez, you know, we got all these guys coming into the house in robes and skirts and what's going on here. And, you know, one of my favorite moment was having lunch at the four seasons with Rabbi Steinsaltz, who was one of the most revered rabbis in Israel with a skull cap and lots of long white hair and a white beard and his black out. All of my friends at the Four Seasons Hotels are looking at me thinking, who is this? I was meeting so many interesting people, but the other thing was that I was learning so much. And, you know, I just kept thinking, this is a huge gap in my education. And I think in everyone's education, I think everybody should, I mean, learning the history of religion should be mandatory in all schools. Because if you're going to learn.”
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“You know, why is this so important? Why are 95% of the people in this world informed by religion or moved in some way by religion? And after about a year, and the site was immediately successful. And everybody was stunned. You know, oh my God, how is this possible? Religion, really? Right.”
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“And always have been very pluralistic in my view because I wanted to learn about religion and wasn't just a faith. This wasn't about religion. Have you found faith? It was about, what is this?”
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“Karen Armstrong, who is a brilliant religion scholar and archbishop Desmond Tutu. Oh, yeah. You knew a few people. I emailed them. Those were all top. Will you be on my panel? And they said, sure. And so, you know, then, of course, we got anybody we wanted. And so we had this incredible panel. And we just started. And I...”
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“I hired this wonderful editor Who was a religion editor who totally got what I wanted to do? And what I wanted to do was have a religion panel. And then people could write in questions, or we'd have a question of the week, and then the panel would answer it. And I had to happen to know four religious people. One of them was Martin Marty, who was the dean of the Chicago Divinity School. Elaine Pagels, Karen Armstrong”
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“John, you know, and I went to New York and had my picture taken with John and suddenly within a month there we were up on the site. What I wanted to do was to John said he had a full-time job, so he couldn't do it. I ran the website.”
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“I mean, I'm a big believer in change and moving on and doing new things and trying out new things. And so this was really exciting for me and to be able to do whatever we wanted to do. We had total freedom. Nobody did the post told us what to do.”
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“Starter Willigen website. They said, Yay, why not? So, you know, suddenly I had a producer and an editor and this and that. And we put it up.”
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“Know, I mean, everybody wore jeans. There were concrete floors, there were ping pong tables, there was free coffee and bagels. And you could do consumer.”
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“To help you do it. And I started, you know, and those days, Kara, I mean, the The Washington Post website was not even in Washington. It was in Arlington's building. Yeah. And so I started going over there and it was like a whole, I was like in another country.”
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“And I said, Don, you know, I don't know anything about religion. I don't know anything about the internet. You know, I can barely do email. And he said nobody's perfect. So I said, okay, I'll get my trustee friend, John Meacham.”
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“Well, of course there are. I mean, most journalists are secular on some level. I mean, although I've come to find out that they're not as secular as people think”
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“And I couldn't get the post interested in covering religion, and so I had lunch with Don Graham, who was the publisher of the post. And I said, you know, we're just not covering the story. There's this huge story out there, and we're not getting it.”
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“It means you're against something. It means you're, you know, you deny the existence of God. How can you do that? You don't know that. So I started thinking about that. And then I became interested in the subject because just as a journalist, I sort of backed into it because I realized how important religion motivated.”
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“Yeah, the now famous movement at Andrew Jackson. And Meacham is a practicing Christian and a religion scholar, and he said to me, you're not an atheist. And I said, yes, I am. And he said, no, you're not. And he said, well, listen, you know, you need to read a lot about religion. He gave me a list of books on the back of an envelope. Said, go read these books. And then if you still think you're an atheist, fine. But at least you'll know what you're talking about because you didn't know anything. So I read the books and I was thinking about religion, but it was still, I mean, the interesting thing was that I was an angry atheist, but as Meacham said, you know, that's an, you're not a negative person, that's a negative word.”
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“And so I was an atheist for all of those years. And at some point, you know, a really angry atheist. The word agnostic means nothing to me because agnostic is a person who doesn't know. And nobody knows. My favorite bumper sticker is I don't know and you don't either. The Pope is an agnostic.”
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“And so I was, I mean, I didn't even know what being an atheist was. I never admitted to anybody that I didn't believe in God until I learned the word atheist when I was 13. And I thought, oh, I'm not the only one. There's a word for what it is that I am.”
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“And when he came back from the war, and I found them, and I was just horrified. I finally admitted to my father, and of course, we didn't have TV in those days, and I was too young to understand. He explained about the Nazis to me. I said Daddy did God know about this, and he said yes. And I said, well, how could he let this happen? And he said, God works in mysterious ways. We just don't understand this. And I was devastated I mean, I went upstairs and I cried all night long because I had said my prayers every night. You know, God bless mommy and daddy and everybody. And I thought all those little Jewish children were saying the same prayers, and so were their parents. And then they got killed. And so if God didn't protect them, why should I think he would protect me? Therefore, there had to be no God.”
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“No God. My father was in the military and fought in World War II in Germany and he liberated Dachau and he had his staff photographer take all these photographs and he made scrapbooks out of them and hid them in the library of our house in Washington.”
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“And then I came back and went back to work for the post. and stayed at the post until well I stayed at the post until Quinn, my son was born. He had a Part defect and open heart surgery and he was sick, really for about the first sixteen years of his life, and I had taken a leave of absence to have a baby. but never went back to work full time after that.”
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“The greatest nightmare of my life, and I just missed being a journalist. I mean, you know, I was a news reader. It was ridiculous. And you had to get up at one o'clock in the morning to quote, write the show.”
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“I had already quit. Yeah, I moved to New York, and I was going to start the show on August the 1st or whatever. And so we had to keep it quiet, at least through the... Beginning of this And so we did, but we were meeting, you know, secretly in places like Ohio and, you know. And then sort of like the middle of September, which is this time of year. We decided that it would, that the gossip was crazy. People been moved out, and it must be somebody else. And so we did come out. And by that time, I had started CBS. It was a total disaster”
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“I'm glad you I'll be there at 7:30. And he was. And that was the beginning of our relationship He left home several weeks later. and moved into a hotel, and but we couldn't come out of the”
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“So we agreed to meet that night And so we were going to meet at 7 30 at my apartment. And about five o'clock he came up to me in the newsroom with this harried look on his face and he said, you know, Woodward and Bernstein have just come in with this big story. Can we make it? How about eight? And I said, how about never?”
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“And I have a movie. And I have to, I just can't be around you anymore. And he said, I can't believe you're saying this because I'm in love with you too. Oh, my God. And I have been for the last year.”
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“And I had rehearsed my speech for a whole week, and I said, I just want you to know that the reason I'm leaving is because I'm in love with you.”
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“Moved up to New York, Ben tried to talk me out of going and moved in with my boyfriend, and I came back to Washington for a farewell party and I asked Ben to take me to lunch. And I said, you know, chicken salad, the Madison Hotel, this huge.”
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“Paul said, You just can't do anything about this, you cannot make any advances, you can't do anything. And he looked at me and he said, you have to put your country first. I know it sounds ridiculous at this point, but he was, I'm an army brat, you know. It's the one thing that he could have said to me that made a difference. And so when CBS came and offered me the job to be the first network anchor woman in America on the CBS morning news, I took the job, even though I didn't want the job. I didn't want to go on television. I loved my job at the post. But I just felt I needed to get away from Ben because it was clearly not happening and I couldn't stand it. It was too painful. So I quit the post.”
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“And I said to Paul, who was my confidant, I said, you know, I have to tell you I'm in love with Ben Bradley. And I don't know what to do about it. And I think he likes me, but I don't know. And, you know, at this point, the Nixon people are following Ben and Woodward and Bernstein, and they have to go outside on the lawn of Ben's house because they think the house is bugged. I mean, they would have done anything to destroy the paper.”
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“Well, when he wrote his book, and I, when I went over the manuscript, I cut it out. But he, sneaky devil, put it back in without telling me. So I was outed. But he never figured out who had sent the notes. But I thought, how could he be that thick? But it was kind of like alluding to.”
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“And so nothing happened, and of course this isn't in the middle of Watergate. But I at this point was in love with him, and I wrote him a couple of little anonymous love notes. Which is in this book.”
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“But we were at the opposite end of the table. And then I was coming out of the convention another night and I was hailing a cab and I heard a voice, a rough voice say taxi. I looked over, it was Ben, and he said, oh, do you want to get a drink? And I said, yes, so we headed off to the Fountain Blow Hotel. And just we got there, a bunch of our reporters said, Benji, Sal, we're all going into the flamingo room. Come with us, and we both kind of looked each other and said, no thanks. We're going to.”
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“And it was a very turbulent flight. And I was sort of grabbing onto him and grabbing onto his thigh. I mean, I'm not a terrible flyer. But we were talking the whole time. By the time we landed in Miami, I was in love with him. I mean, I was just totally in love with him. And he later admitted that he had fallen in love with me on that flight too. And he asked me to join him for dinner that night. I said yes and went back to the hotel and he called and said, I'm really sorry, but the managing editor has arranged for us to take some reporters out to dinner. You can join us, and I did.”
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“Children and stepchildren and all that. And I just was dazzled by him, but, you know, he was 20 years older and he was married. He was the editor of the paper. So I just never thought about anything. Then we were assigned to cover the convention in Miami. I was Nixon. The Washington Post travel section had seated me next to Ben. Of course, we all flew coach. Right. And so we were just accidentally next to each other on the plane.”
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“Yeah, well, Ben and I had been at the paper for four years. I was living with Warren Hoag, who was a New York Times reporter. And Ben was married and had...”
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“I love all these One Piece of Nice. Yes, one piece. Before you do it And she would knock it back, and then she would go for it. That's fantastic. So you did that for a long time and got a huge urban patient. In the meantime, you started seeing Ben.”
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