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Sean Rameswaram

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“Why, but I thought why don't we get Andrew Procop from Vox, who's done the explainers on this for the site, into the studio and have him just tell the story. I'm not going to ask him any questions. Like, Andrew, start at the start and get all the way to the end, and then we'll do like a second half that's more like analysis. But I just want you to talk at me. And he talked at me. And then I told Noam Hassenfeld, our producer, who's really musically gifted, I said, like, hey, what if we drop Andrew's story that he's telling about Cohen over a jazzy beat with like bass and some claps and some snaps? And then, you know, you hear like Christina Animishan, who's this amazing graphics illustrator at Vox, who also has an incredible singing voice going like essential consulting stormy Daniels. And we made this amazing episode called Dial C for Cohen. That is like the story of the Cohen and Mueller investigations vis- ⁇-vis like this Noir jazzy score.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think that's a difficult thing. That's an easy one. I can give you an answer to that. So when Cohen first broke, when that news first broke, it was so ridiculous. I mean, it involved porn stars. It involved bullying. There were so many sort of like comical elements to this. It was just ridiculous. It just, you couldn't believe some of the stuff you were reading. I mean, like, just try and imagine any of that happening during the Obama administration that the president was paying off porn stars through this lawyer who was a big bully, or even just trying to imagine it during the Bush years. Even then it would have seemed ridiculous. So instead of going like, okay, let's just, you know, dunk on the president and talk about how ridiculous our current politics are, I had this idea, like, you know, this investigation, this private personal lawyer of the attorney, it's kind of got these elements to me that like were reminiscent of a film noir. I can't really explain.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like a fully fleshed out thing. Because everybody's covering it. So, how in this world where everybody's covering something, like there's instant water reaction to every news story? How do you sort it out? How do you differentiate? Okay. I think that's a difficult thing. That's an easy.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, immediately. There have been many times where there was something that sort of bubbled up with the Mueller investigation, but then quickly fell away because it was sort of like, oh, we know a bit more about the thing. We kind of wait for the big breaks to do a fully fleshed out thing.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's true. Yes, we might have to do that I mean, we've done the Mueller investigation at least a dozen times. Are you getting ready? Apparently it's dropping just immediately. We're ready when he is. But I think immediately.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Of the focus is on Trump. Venezuela today, the chief of staff, was kidnapped. That's right. Yes. We might have to do that. Yeah. And so what is the criteria then, just that it can be explained or that it's more, you know, you don't want to do stuff that's the same that you've done and also that everybody else is doing?”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah, but we did that one too. Yeah, I think we love to do international stuff because we just don't hear that much about that right now because so much of the focus is on Trump.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. It's just like we've done when we feel like we've done this episode before, like, we can't put in all those human emotions and elements I told you about because we're bored, you know? So I think we love to explain stuff that we haven't explained before. We like to dig into something. And the Vox staff here in this newsroom is so good at that and help us to that end. I think when we do international things, when we cover evergreen subjects like CBD, which might not be like newsy today, but are sort of ongoing, we get a great response. People are always like, oh, I'm so glad you did that. Thank you for covering Venezuela. We really needed that. So far, I think people have really appreciated the cause of your.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, we like to do. Sean's signing off episodes that hold 20 minutes that go into history, that go into analysis that fully comprehensively explain a given issue. And the thing that's trending on Twitter is not always that. What happened with the 737s is a great example of that, I think, you know, protests in Sudan are a great example of that. I mean, but... The Trump stuff sometimes there's not a whole lot there, or it's super samey. And when we do episodes.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For sure. Like Trump says something dumb every day or gets in a fight. This current McCain thing, all the tweets? No, definitely not. Because I don't know if there's a ton to explain there. We like to really do.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Thank you. Thank you. CBD this week we did because it just feels like it's everywhere and it's worth explaining. And we were able to have a little fun with that. It's also serious. But I think we try to make a show that really captures the full range of human experience, which is to say that sometimes it's funny, sometimes it's sad, sometimes it's weird, sometimes it's wacky. It's all over.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a little fun kid going. I mean, that is unfunny. Elements of this story are certainly very funny. Check out our episode. It's called Becky with the Bad Grades.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Literally just explaining news stories almost all the damn time. I mean, this week it's been CBD. It's been the case of Curtis Flowers at the Supreme Court. It's been the shooting and white supremacy in America. We are trying to really understand these issues so that in theory we can go out and make informed decisions. And also I thought an opportunity that we had was to make a very human sounding show, to make a show that feels like it's about what it's like to be a person trying to understand this news in this moment. And that means that sometimes it's very sad. Yes, like the shooting in New Zealand, but sometimes it can be kind of funny, like this. Buying your way into the Ivy League scandal from last week.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I actually have several friends who work for the daily. So I asked them, I said, hey, should another one of these things exist? We already got two. One from you guys, one from NPR. Does the world need another one? And they were like, of course the world needs another one. What's a good example? John Oliver didn't go, well, the daily show already exists. Right. Let me not make a show on HBO. And Stephen Colbert didn't go like, oh, well, you know, I already did the Colbert poor. Let me not do late night or whatever it is. I mean, there's a lot of shows there's a lot of new shows. There's a lot of comedy shows doing the news. Why not have more of these daily news podcasts? So what could this one do differently approaching it? I thought immediately, well, the Vox Explainer mission, we're not going to sit around and pontificate or, you know, speculate about the news. We're just going to tell you everything you need to know to understand it and go up there and make informed decisions. If you look at what we cover every day, we're”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Okay, yeah, so I thought, well, wow, this terrifies me. Doing a show every day when everyone I know already listens to The Daily, when I listen to Morning Edition every morning, why should there be another thing?”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Stuff like that. So, what did you look like? I should say, I didn't conceive of it. I think, you know. How do you conceive it now? Oh, sure. But all credit to Alison Rocky and Nishat Kirwa and Ezra and Lauren Williams and Andrew Golis, who's now at WNYC, for coming up with this idea. They approach Stitcher about it. Stitcher funds our show. And I think they were looking for a host. And I think because I had hosted things, I maybe came up as a candidate who might have an interest in doing something like this.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Fill the void. So there's all different things for different people. So, talk about today's explain. So, how did you conceive it? Because there had been these others and stuff like that. I should say I didn't.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He sure is Were they daily Which grew out of the Trump administration. Absolutely. I think there was anger that they just did daily anger. There was a ton of interest in hearing more about the Trump administration, be it positive or negative, whatever it was, right? I mean, it isn't just limited to podcasts. I mean, CNN got its best ratings from the 2016 election. Fox News, MSNBC, all of it is good for ratings. Stephen Colbert became number one instead of Jimmy Fallon, right? I mean, there was this shift where everyone wanted to hear more about the administration, more about the news.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At this point, NPR, I think, says something like, well, we can't just cede our entire ownership of this market to the times. We're dropping up first. And then luckily, Vox came along third with today explains. Yeah. Oh, shout out to the gist from Mike Peska at Slate, who was doing a daily news podcast before any of those three at this point.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And I think immediately you see NPR, which hesitated for a long time to release a morning edition podcast because public radio member stations thought you're going to eat away at our biggest fundraiser, which is morning edition. We come on, we say, you need this thing. You get it from us. Give us money.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You did So they do this sort of political podcast. People are really listening. And then after the election, I believe they think, oh, why don't we try and do this every day? And of course, it really works because the Trump administration is immediately something that needs heightened coverage. And a daily podcast is a great form.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Sure. I mean, I think it's hard to talk about how the daily podcast came to be without talking about the 2016 election. Mm-hmm. Where I think that's where the New York Times is sort of starting to test the idea of releasing a whole lot of news podcasts much more often. And it did really well because there was this heightened interest In our presidential politics, in that moment, right?”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah Oh, I'm very grateful for the Daly's existence. I think it's the reason our show exists because Vox took a look at this thing and said, oh, that's a great idea. We could do something like that, but totally different.com.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And there were meetings, you know, in public at public radio stations across the country after that happened, saying, How can we do serial? How can we do serial? But the smart thing that Ira did was not say, or Sarah, I should say too, was not go like, how can, they weren't asking, how can we make cereal? They were just asking, how can we make something great? And I think that's where you've seen a lot of great things happen is people just following their bliss.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That was Ruined by this, right? Right. Where Using a technology that now really worked well. And then Apple pushing the podcasts and Google getting into it. It just created sort of. Examples of that where some format doesn't hit until there's the actual devices to make people use and people's comfort level with using I thought was interesting”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I'm sorry. Do you still respect me? Not really. And that's the thing. I think a word you use there that is very interesting is entertainment. People were tweeting about like this murder and whether Adnan did it or not as if it was a joke, I think. And that was really interesting for me to see. I was like, somebody died here. Families were ruined by this, but I think there was that zeitgeist-y cultural moment where it was like everyone needed to know who did it. It was like, did Tony die at the end of the Sopranos or something? But of course, it was also journalism. So I think it caught the people who wanted to hear a good journalistic important story being told, but also the people who just wanted to be entertained on their way home from work.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Do you? Yeah, I'm sorry. Do you still respect me? Not really. But that's okay. I am judging you silently, but actually loudly. But the shifting to mobile, the people use these as entertainment devices, not just listening, but watching and the ease of doing that, I think, is also, you can't, there was a real, people got the iPhone in 2007, but it was later. It took off in that way.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And people got used to it. I also don't want to leave out the idea of these devices, how the devices adhere in earphones change, the AirPod, things like that. Do you have the AirPods? Yes, of course. I've had them for years since the beginning. I'm not getting the new ones.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think it's the freedom of the medium, and it's the fact that I can listen to it whenever I want. It's not like I needed a tune in on Saturday morning at 10 a.m. to catch this American life or wait four days for them to post it online. It was this buzzy, well-made thing that I could get whenever I wanted that didn't have to play by any rules that came out at the exact right moment, that had the platform of this American life to promote it. I think the first episode at least of serial was played on this American life. So it had...”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah. And then Tangle Tinkle of the Yeah, but that story's four minutes long. Sometimes it's eight minutes long. Right. Cereal could be 40 minutes long. Right. It could be 45. It could be. It could feature the curse words. It could be grim. It could be really dark. It didn't need to cut to an ad, right? I mean, I think there were a lot of things that freed up.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Talking to his friends, but it's Iraq. Thing And why is it different from radio broadcast? Because they've been doing this on Ira Glass's show, The Fucking Life. They've been doing this in broadcast form. And, you know, you have that typical NBR story, like here in the village of. ZWATENEGO in Mexico. You know what I mean? Yeah. And then Tangle Tank all over there. Yeah”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I mean, cereal really captured the imagination of what the medium could do. I think, you know, a lot of before that, you had a lot of radio shows that people listened to as podcasts. And then you had a lot of podcasts that were sort of like lo-fi, Mark Marin talking to his friends, but it's really compelling because Mark Marin has famous friends and they have good stories. Serial was narrative and it was narrative produced by the best people in the business, Ira, Sarah Koenig, Starley Kine, all these people who had made really great radio for years were making something that was podcast first and true crime. It was the perfect thing, right? Because people just are nuts for true crime. And it wasn't necessarily a brand new idea. It was, you know, serialized radio about crime is decades and decades and decades old. It was just sort of a forgotten idea tailored to this new medium at exactly the right time.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Imagined it. Right. Top 10 download podcast. Why do you think that was? What happened there? There were some good stuff, Mark. Marilyn was doing great stuff. A lot of people were doing great stuff. What's his name? Zay Frank was doing stuff.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Cereal for sure. Cereal for sure. I think no one had seen success like cereal or imagined it. Right. I mean, cereal, it's still, I think, like even when they're not putting out episodes, it's in the top 10 download podcasts.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right. And one of the things that you were talking about not making money and doing things in this area, what do you imagine made it spike? Was it cereal or the daily? What do you think is the cereal for sure? Cereal for sure.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I thought I could be good at it. I mean, I was happy making more perfect. This show, the Today Explain Thing they kind of approached me.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exactly, and we I hung out for two seasons and made some episodes I'm really proud of, including one about a rule called Batson, the Batson rule, which is about from a case called Batson versus Kentucky, which is about racial discrimination in jury selection. And then one about the Second Amendment with Dick Heller in his big case. Hella versus the District of Columbia. Yep. Yep”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Why the Supreme Court? That is a question for Jad Abumrad, but I think the answer is they made an episode about the Supreme Court called Adoptive Girl, I think. It was this really brilliant story reported by a guy named Tim Howard, who then went on to be a producer at Reply All. And I think Jad just saw that, wow, like the Supreme Court has all of the drama and twists and surprises and gravity of the stories I like to tell, but it's this whole world of those stories. This one episode of Radio Lab was so good. Why don't we try and make a whole bunch of them? Right. And so they decide to launch this show. I actually came up with the name of it more perfect.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Totally spinoff was the name of the game at WYC. Right. It'll help bring more attention to the big show. And, you know, I think develop some broadcast. Yeah. And develop some younger talent. So I got to do the TLDR thing at Studio 360. It was called Sideshow. It was a whole lot of fun. And that opened up a bunch of other doors for me.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When was that Around that, okay. A weekly radio show I was like, all W and I see you because they had experienced incredible success with freak economics and radio lab. Right. But there still weren't opportunities just dropping out of the sky for young producers to get involved. But on the media had a spin-off podcast called TLDR, which is now Reply All, which was very successful for them, not only in doubling, I think, their downloads, but also in driving, as I said, a lot of traffic to the website. So Studio 360, which is a similar show, a weekly sort of arts and culture magazine hour-long that came out on radio stations across the country was like thinking, hey, maybe if we did a spin-off podcast, it could also boost our channel.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As a podcast. Right, they were. They were Because public radio stations have sites that no one visited. We had visited the local NPR station in San Francisco to try to get initially a show there. When was that? Oh, five years ago. Around that, okay. Yeah, around that. And then four or five years ago, something like that. Yeah. And then we talked to iHeartRadio and tried out a weekly radio show. And I remember Bob Pittman, he would admit this this day. He's like, podcasts aren't going anywhere. And I was like, all right, we like them. Like, you know what I mean? It was a really interesting, but podcasts were something nobody. They just were like, don't do it if you want.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Radio lab. WTF with Marky Mark, you know, the big ones, I would say. And my thing back then was still, I was still a public radio junkie. I was like on the media, this American life was the kind of stuff that I would listen to as a podcast. Yeah, I still hadn't discovered that the niche world as much as I would have liked, I think. There was this sort of, you know, momentum around, I think at WNYC at the time, it was like, man, podcasts can really drive more traffic to our websites. I think that's kind of how people were thinking about. They were. Yeah, you have a podcast all of a sudden there's sort of like more young energy, more stuff being made that people are going to click on on social media and it's going to drive traffic to these websites because public radio stations have sites that no one visited.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Station in the country exactly. Yeah, a lot of history. And that was kind of what opened up a lot of opportunities. I guess there I got to host this spin-off show called Sideshow. I got to go guest host Q at the CBC in Canada.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Want to work for a public radio station, it doesn't get much bigger or better than WNYC considering the history. It's got to be at least or the old.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So I did everything there. And then at some point, you know, two years ago by, and I figured, okay, it's time for me to. Get a job. I really had my eyes set on being like a producer at a big national show because, again, podcasting, even to exist. We're talking like 2011, 2012. Still not a thing. I mean, a growing thing, but like not the kind of thing that you could go get a job with benefits and make money doing. And so I'm looking at all these public radio stations, NPR, and I had a real character building 18 months in the wilderness trying to find a full-time job. It was discouraging. I almost gave up. And then, right when I was on the precipice of giving up, I got a job as a producer of Studio 360 with Kurt Anderson. And I got to go to New York and work at WNYC, which, if you want”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was a very rare breed though. I was like a person who had finished college and came to Santa Cruz, California. To work because work is not a huge thing out there.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A tiny market like one block away from the ocean in Santa Cruz, California. And that's where I learned a ton. And then at some point,”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So then I started looking for jobs elsewhere, looked all around DC, started looking in Virginia, started looking in Philadelphia. My radius kept getting bigger until I was like looking across the country and in Canada and I found a tiny little radio station in Santa Cruz, California. It doesn't exist anymore, KUSP. RIP and they gave me the opportunity to just do whatever I wanted for like $13 an hour. So I got to host all things considered. I got to do new traffic, all the local stuff. I was doing promos. We were going to the Monterey Jazz Festivals, doing social media, doing everything. So went from being like in a corner of a public radio station in a big market, DC to doing everything.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He didn't respond Dim wasn't interested. And then I just kept following up, kept following up, kept following up. And then eventually he said, sure, like one word response. Sure, come in, let's talk. I go in, we talk, and he says, you know, if you want to come hang out here, go for it. We'll see if you fit anywhere. And that turned into, you know, writing part-time for the radio station. I was writing for some of the reporters there. The reporters there took a liking to me would teach me things here and there. But I really could not. I struggled to get my voice on the air, which at a radio newsroom. That's what you want to know. You're not getting your voice on the air. You're not really doing a damn thing.”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Diane Reem Kojo Shout out to Kojo Nambi. And I've been applying for jobs there and no response. I thought it was like some hot shit just got out of college, spoke Spanish, went abroad, volunteered, did all this stuff. No one cared. No one cared at all. And so I started, you know, taking a different tack, which was just emailing the news director at WMU, Jim Ascendio was his name, and just saying like, hey, can I come hang out for free in your newsroom and work for you for free?”
2019-03-27 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Today, Explained host Sean Rameswaram · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT