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Shailagh Murray

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  1. “Because it was their passions that had been unleashed. A lot of people, though, felt kind of perversely safe in that kind of structure. It teaches you, living in a place like that, a moment like that teaches you how long the arc of history can be and how hard changes even when it's even when people really want it or they think they really want it. And, you know, the inevitable sort of interlude that follows that kind of trauma, which is corruption and the wrong people, assuming power and people lose becoming more cynical about the system, feel even more disconnected. You know, it was a You were just really inside of people, you know, you were inside of an emotional.”

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  2. “Well, it was really exhilarating. And there were camps, obviously. There were certain people who had been like listening to John Coltrane their whole lives, locked up in their little apartments. They knew everything about American culture. They were obsessed with certain writers. They were obsessed with music. They were the ones who felt truly free.”

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  3. “Moral downside to something like that. So the university is trying to change that culture and talking to teachers who knew everybody in the class was cheating and was actually trying to teach students how to learn the right way. Things like that were Know they were just moments that huge growth moments.”

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  4. “I remember doing one. I did a couple of stories, one about the Czechs had the highest per capita rate of atheism in the world, I think. And I went around with a couple of Mormon missionaries who had recently been dispatched. And as they tried to cross the threshold with these hardcore atheist old ladies all over Prague. And so you would find, you would try to find little ways to tell big stories. So I did another, I remember doing another story about the rampant cheating that went on in universities. Everyone just cheated their way through school because, you know, so cynical. Everyone was so cynical about authority that there was no...”

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  5. “Yeah, they were expanding, needed a bodies. And we had, you know, because we'd had a few years of real journalism experience. We had. That advantage of Knew how to file a story Because a lot of people there were trying to launch their careers, and we just had, we were a little further down the road. So that helped a lot. And what kind of story?”

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  6. “The president, yeah, and I think V ⁇ clav Klaus was the prime minister. Well, no, this is, we got there before the country split. So we were there, and that was the classic American perspective. Why would a medium-sized country in Europe choose to become too small countries in Europe? And that's So it was a huge learning curve where you're in the moment of this just huge historical event. And it was really exciting. And we caught a huge lucky break by hooking up with the Wall Street Journal pretty soon after a few months after we moved there.”

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  7. “It had exactly the right combination of kind of romantic, exotic foreign destination appeal and also a lot of work, a lot of work to be had for aspiring journalists slash freelancers who would do anything.”

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  8. “So, a friend of ours had been over there on assignment and I think it even called us while he was there works for National Geographic. Was just full of, you know, oh my gosh, you wouldn't believe this place. It's so amazing. It is a spectacular place.”

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  9. “So we were, you know, had nothing to lose and well, we felt like we had nothing to lose. And we quit those jobs and just moved to Prague. And it was right in the early days of the post-communist Eastern Europe craze. There were a lot of us doing exactly the same thing as it turned out.”

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  10. “Right. So we had met at Northwestern, had gotten jobs together in Tampa, had had the time of our lives covering serial killers and crime sprees and nudist colonies, you know, all the great Florida stories. I completely.”

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  11. “I think you just realize at a certain point that you learn a lot from that perspective and that being like the objective outsider or the outsider with no skin in the game or the Is actually an asset if you deploy it effectively. And to me journalism was a way of. Being the new kid in the room, not really having to interact, but being able to absorb a lot and experience.”

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  12. “But But I think it's just you know it when you see it, career choice where it does attract generalists. For me, it did appeal to this kind of voyeuristic streak that I had developed over the years of being like transplanted into. You know, totally foreign cultures like the Old South or We lived for a while in a small town in northern Indiana. Similar deal, you know, went from a small Catholic school to a big public school. So you learn these. You're either good at that. You're either really adaptable or you're not.”

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  13. “At Tampa Tribune, covering cops and courts and, you know, outraged people at town hall meetings, you know, grounding. Yeah, the best years of our lives are always those first few years in journalism where you're doing everything for the first time.”

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  14. “Right, that was my preferred choice. But I ended up going to, I expedited it by going to Northwestern graduate school, which in a year gives you a lot of practical experience, and it helps you sort of Get that really good first job. And what was that really good job or skip the unpaid internship process phase?”

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  15. “No, I was working at a nightclub and at a record store and just. Something to be said for those things. Something to be said for those things”

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  16. “No, no, I didn't. I dropped out of the. Well, I wasn't in the program yet. I pivoted. I ended up in this interdisciplinary humanities program, which was great. It was exactly what college should be. But... Parallel lies with Tim Kane, same school both graduated in three years. So I was very young coming out of college and kind of directionless.”

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  17. “I did. I went there for that purpose. I got some advice a year or two in from an old friend of my dad's who worked at the Wall Street Journal. It was like, you know, kid, you can't be a journalist unless you know stuff. So no major in journalism. That's a huge mistake.”

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  18. “No, not at all. In fact, there were nice older couple and I would go over and visit with them as a kid and no, it was a completely friendly situation until it wasn't.”

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  19. “There was a Jewish community that we had friends with, and that's when we started having Sedyrs at home. I mean, my parents were very committed to multiculturalism before it even had any name attached to it. So all that's to say that you can easily see your neighbor and my neighbor, my next door neighbor is the one who put the fence up when... When we sold the family, the house to the African American couple. So you can live right next door to that and not, you know, have totally different experiences.”

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  20. “By faith in it's interesting because when you live in a place like that and you're a Catholic, there's a you automatically have a kind of an outsider's perspective. Actually, I went to the same church as Tim Kane did, which was an integrated Catholic church in the city actually attended the school there when it was still open. So I saw like the post-change rich side of Richmond entirely. I mean, we lived in that. It was very important. My parents...”

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  21. “And I'm not a, you know, I was not a Virginian by birth. I was born in upstate New York, another pivotal place at a pivotal time, height of the industrial age, the Rust Belt. So we, I guess I have more of a voyeuristic appreciation of the South than a native identity. But you can see how Well, it's an interesting, that neighborhood is really interesting because I've seen it described as working class in stories about him, but it's not really kind of an urban suburb in many respects, an older late 19th century, many big, beautiful houses, boulevards with big medians and leafy trees and parks and whatnot. It's kind of old school middle class community, but that had saw so much of that, those growing pains from the 70s and 80s in particular. You know, those were the pivotal 20 years for communities like that.”

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  22. “People just thought that way. It's just the way they saw the world. That was brought home when we sold our house in Richmond to a black couple in, I guess this was the early 80s. And, you know, overnight the fence went up next door and my mom couldn't get the dry cleaning back. And we just kind of hightailed it out of town. And it was amazing to me. Right before the election and the Obama signs were everywhere. And that was just the kind of community that had Had transformed just in, you know, a fairly short amount of time.”

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  23. “Different part of the Catholic Church, but we essentially the same neighborhood. I mean, Tim Kane lived about four blocks from me in one direction, and Steve Bannon lived probably within ten blocks in another direction. And it was a really interesting, you know, we moved around a lot, but we lived in these places and just like really important places in just the right time. The 70s in Virginia was like, it was like the 19th century was just coming to a close in many respects. Integration was still a work in progress. And it was very segregated. The city of City of Richmond in particular, the capital of the Confederacy, but also”

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  24. “It wasn't cause. They were just really driven by their view that if you just did your own meaningful that other people would benefit from it. And so that was instilled in us more than a sense of mission to be part of the church or an extension of the church as they were in a lot of respects. All five of us kids kind of came out of that culture and have lived it in some form in our professional lives.”

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  25. “Part of the state anyway. Yes, exactly. We used to say a prayer for the people who lived in Northern Virginia. It was so sad. But they were very much on the front lines of the civil rights movement through the Catholic Church. And over the years, my dad worked in different capacities in the church and eventually worked with a particular order that had a lot of assets and that he helped them manage. And it was just a, I got a very idealized and Sort of high end version of a Catholic childhood. It was parapatic. We moved a lot and I was always the new kid in school. But yet they were driven to, well, it was so inspiring to have parents who were so committed to.”

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  26. “He worked initially in education and parish work. He started off in parish work and kind of running a parish in Charlottesville, Virginia, that had been recently integrated in the late 60s and under a very progressive bishop in Richmond. And that was a really powerful experience sort of living through that era firsthand and in your own community. And then he became the head of Catholic school system for the Diocese of Virginia, which covered the entire state except for northern Virginia. So he was working on this integration. The entire rest of the state is...”

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  27. “Now, I think he was having some daydreaming about the cleaning lady, and the Monsignor said, you know, I think it's a sign. And then he went out and married the first woman he met when you leave the seminary, which is the joke. So they were very and are very idealistic people very much driven by their faith and have lived their faith. My mother is a nurse, was a public health nurse for years, would put us in the back of the car and drive us all over the Appalachian mountains, visiting people who had never seen health care workers before in Virginia. And my dad worked for the church most of his life.”

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  28. “Exactly. And the transformation in the country. And so all those streams ran together and my father was in the Franciscan seminary for four years and met my mom on a blind date day or two after he left.”

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  29. “In many respects, that was the prescribed path. And while my parents are kind of the kind of archetypes of the progressive 60s Catholics who came from Republican families and were sort of seized by the transformation in the church in the 60s, which coincided with the”

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