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  1. “But it is this idea of like, how do you make it so not staying in the box is your thing because that was Madonna saying and that's what I want mine to be and that's why aggressively I can't be afraid of this next thing when I'm going out with something so different”

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  2. “Not that she's so popular, it's almost more ridiculous when I tell people, we did both move to Missouri for six foot five aggressively masculine athletic men. So, I do feel like a special kinship”

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  3. “And she did it for so long, you know, and then now she's in her close to 70 and in her like legacy celebration era, you know, she's done in terms of that part. It's funny because Taylor in a lot of ways follows the same script, which is each album is a reinvention to the point of now when she's on tour, it's the Eros tour. It's this idea that you're going to embrace all the different parts of me, but they're all very different and they go in different directions. That's part of my identity now. Do not expect me to stay in the box for the next thing because that's not what is happening and that's not what you want. So I think it's why when I went to write fairy tales, I think the fact that I am such a, also the reason it's in the absurd column is because I've liked it for so long. And now I'm so used to comparing myself to her when she wasn't even, comparing not myself, but like her moves and things.”

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  4. “Which is as an artist, how do you sustain a career for a long period of time without it just being a downward diminishing returns? And what I loved about Madonna was that reinventioning, the ability to completely reinvent herself.”

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  5. “It's funny because I grew up idolizing Madonna, and I think one of the reasons I was so interested in Madonna was some part of me was kind of pre-adapting her central question of existence to what was going to be my life, which is a lot of that.”

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  6. “Like if he can get his brain to just be calm, like the calmest and the most stressful situations, it'll tell him what to do. Roger Fedder was similar. He said that every tennis player tenses up right as they're about to hit the ball because the pressure of hitting the right shot gets them at the last nanosecond. And his job is to stay relaxed so he has an extra millisecond of options. And so I was just something about that show where I was like these guys are learning They don't call the play, but they're the executing guys. And I just think like that's life. Let the place come to you. Let them come through your invisible headset. Don't question it. You can't talk back to it. Just take the play and then execute. So there was something about that show. I don't know. I got to check it out.”

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  7. “Adjust because the world's going to react to your play. And that's where it gets interesting because you have to be so present and in the moment that you can react to what's going to happen. Everyone's focused so much on deciding to play. Don't focus on deciding the play. Once you feel a play, execute it. Just go. Follow it. And if it busts, whatever, you got a new play coming. And so each of them is so different. Mahomes is just sort of a physical freak of nature and so smart and able to on the fly improvise. And so he's very kind of, I think of him as almost pliable. He's very spongy. He can sort of like move and adjust at the last minute and he's so sort of confident in that ability. Kirk Cousins is more like me where he's not particularly physically adept, but he's brainy and nerdy. And so where the other quarterbacks are in the gym like doing all their physical training, he's at biofeedback sessions because he feeds.”

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  8. “So I start watching And I realized that this position of being a quarterback is the greatest metaphor for what life should be. Because we all think we're the decision makers, this is what we were talking about, follow the flow, we think we're the ones in charge of everything like that. That's not what a quarterback is. Quarterback knows all the possible plays. The other forces are calling it into his helmet. He's not even able to talk to the coach. He can't talk back to the coach. It's a one-way system. So literally, it's universe telling him what the play is. So he's hearing like white squall Madonna Six wing, whatever. He's like, okay, execute, right? So that's it. And I feel like that's what life should be. You're in the flow so much that the orders are coming from outside. Orders are coming from outside, telling you what the play is. You get the play, you go into the huddle, you communicate the play to your whole team. Now everybody's on the same page as you've got everyone with you, right? Now you go into the huddle. The ball is snapped to you. And now you have...”

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  9. “So it felt like, okay, you know, I grew up watching a lot of Dolphins games and I actually love football. Like I could watch football all day long. I just never really got into it because I didn't have a reason. You know what I mean? There was no team I was rooting for in the Dolphins always sucked for a long time. So Taylor gave me more reason. And so I just watched it because I'd also been hearing good things and I love sports stocks. I just feel like it's the closest thing I can feel to like high performance.”

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  10. “It is This is so funny. The most spiritual revelations I've ever had watching a TV show have come watching that Netflix series quarterback.”

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  11. “Unbidden, yeah. Like, I would like to have a better connection to the thing that is running my life, which is why we should talk about QBs next.”

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  12. “I think it comes really, it's in therapy and it's in those treatments where I think sometimes what I'll do now is if I go in for a booster or if I go in for IFS, I just think, okay, I'm taking myself out of this. Let's see what comes from the other part of myself. You know what I mean? Like the part that is the creative force, is the one that has the vision of where I should be going next. The one who knows what next book I should be writing.”

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  13. “Oh, no way. So I started doing IFS therapy, exploring those parts, and that's when you really start to be able to see them in practice and work with them and start to feel more comfortable letting go. And I think the ketamine treatments plus IFS.”

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  14. “And I just was like, what? I'm literally watching myself being like, what is happening? And that was the first time I got a sense of. That there's a better version that can handle every situation. And I remember the other thing that gave me a clue was Tiger Woods. There was a documentary about Tiger Woods on HBO, and they talked about how his dad taught him kind of techniques to almost hypnotize himself when he played so that his conscious mind wasn't working. And that's how he dominated all those years. And I thought that's it. It's almost like you have to get your conscious frame out of the way because the double, the real version of yourself that knows how to do everything is there somewhere. And the question is, over time, can you make it so they start to integrate? And a useful thing that also helped me start to explore it was I started doing IFS. Do you know this? Yeah.”

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  15. “It's fine. We got this. And I almost remember in that moment being like, okay, I just felt it. And that was the first time I'd ever felt something like that because I went, I remember sitting on the couch and feeling totally chill. David Ducoveny was next to me. I had grown up watching X-Files. I made a sex joke with him in the first like two seconds of the thing. Like I was just like totally chill”

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  16. “Yeah, yeah. So the publicist was like, we booked Joan Kelly, and I was like, I don't know. Especially after lockdown, and he's just like not ready for. It was the first, I think one of the first shows that she had people back. I remember in the dressing rooms trying to freak out and panic and I could feel that panic rising, then all of a sudden I felt this counterforce where I was like stressing on my phone. I felt myself put the phone down and I just felt some other presence be like.”

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  17. “It came up first because I was going to be on the Kelly Clarkson show two years ago, and I had never been on kind of like a TV show like that and, you know, as live student audience, it was straight out of COVID. And I was like, I'm just, I'm not ready for it. Like, I just don't know how to do this.”

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  18. “The better version of yourself is actually out there. You're double, right? And so. I think you have to flip it. And at any given moment, and it's a good exercise to do all day long, like just a mental thought experiment. What if I'm the shadow and there's a better version of myself completely independent human outside that door that could take over this life and completely handle it with no issues? So it's been something that's, if you look at all my fiction, all my fiction is about some version of twins, one good, one evil, one this, one that. And it's always, I think it's that. It's that I'm always trying to figure out like, am I who I'm supposed to be? And I think often psychology will say, well, you have to get control of that shadow. And sometimes I'm like, well, no, maybe I just need to not be here and let the double be in charge, you know? And so I think it's something I'll be exploring and everything I do because I think it's such an important concept that we've reversed it and that we shouldn't be afraid.”

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  19. “Super excited about. I've been thinking about this one a lot, which is there's so much work on your shadow self in psychology, right? It's always like, oh, get control of your shadow self. Your shadow self is, you know. And the more I think about it and the more I've gone through my journeys and all my kind of evolutions, I'm realizing that most of the time you're the shadow self. You it's the primary actor. You're the problem.”

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  20. “It's amazing because anything that's coming from a place of stress, but the thing is it could return if you haven't, if you don't deal with that psychological stress, it might return. But yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. I felt that too. Like if I go in with a lot of muscle soreness, I'll come back out and it's almost like it never happened.”

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  21. “Exactly one hour. And then just the process of getting out of your system, you coming back up, all that stuff is probably another hour and a half So by the time you're in your Uber home, then you're good to go.”

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  22. “Circle the traffic chaff. And then you have to, you know. Just think it's over time because I've been willing to do the work and sort of be in there with it. It's been a huge thing and it meant that I never had to take antidepressants. I never had to take anti-anxiety medication, things that someone on my profile probably would have needed, but instead to go three, four times a year and do these sessions, I think. And it's also the great thing about it is it's a short half-life. It's over so fast. So I think that's what makes it has been such a huge contributor for me.”

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  23. “Nothing. And it's alone, there's no therapist after. It's just, I do it in silence. And I just follow the flow wherever it takes me. And it usually takes me on a ride to the uncomfortable things that I'm not dealing with. Then, you know, it's almost like the way I describe it is sometimes I feel like what the kenamines doing is relaxing your brain like pathway by pathway. And whenever it gets somewhere sticky that's like shut off where there's a jam that's where you're going to have a little moment, you know.”

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  24. “Which is tricky because I think anybody I talk to people close to me, they're like, do you recommend it? I'm like, no. And I never recommend it to people. I don't think I've ever recommended it to anyone because I found it difficult. It's a journey into the deepest core of yourself. It's a lot. It's a lot of work.”

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  25. “Call it like an induction phase. Ivy. I've never done the microdosing and the nasal spray and all that sort of stuff because again, I don't want to do anything that is me alone.”

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  26. “That I didn't know they were there. And then all of a sudden I started to get glimpses of what I could be like. And then it became a question of could I hold on to that? And little by little, some people I think get their benefits much quicker or they don't get any benefits at all. I mean, it's so individual. In my case, it was almost like a practice. It was like every 10 weeks I'd go, learn a million things, work on those things in between, go back. And it almost became like my version of like the deepest therapy, you know, it's become a huge reason for everything. And I think it's also allowed me to follow the flow more than ever because the whole thing of academy treatment is it's a sedative, right? So it puts your brain in such a relaxed state that you have no choice but to follow the flow where it goes. And the flow usually leads you closer to the truth. So I don't know. I think it's for someone who was so anti-drugs. It was the biggest thing that changed my mind.”

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  27. “Number two was did you have a volatile childhood where emotions were not particularly welcome? And I was like, check, check. check number three goes this one's the most important he's like do you know how to have fun and i said no and i cried i remember crying in the office he's like do you know how to have fun and i was the first time anyone had asked the question in the right way because i knew the idea fun i knew that i should be having fun i knew how to act like i was having fun but i never felt like i was having fun and he goes you don't drink i said no and he goes and i meditate i was in that point four or five years into meditation he's like you're gonna have a very good response to this he just like instantly and so i started ketamine treatments at that time i think you do six and 12 days and then you go back for a booster in my case it's every 10 weeks and i still go and it changed my life i mean it was like i feel like a totally different person because what it did is it it woke up parts of my brain that i didn't know existed because they had shut off so early”

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  28. “I don't know. I remember going academy there in New York City calling up, scheduling the consultation, and a week later back in New York going to meet the doctor. And I was like, I don't know if I'm right. In a doctor's office. I said, I would never do drugs on my own because the fear surrounding that of what could happen and where it's procured from and all that stuff would end up. Infecting the whole experience. And with a doctor's office, I'm entertaining it. I said, but I don't want it to affect my creativity. I don't want it to, he's like, it's only going to make you more yourself and more creative. He goes, These are the three things that I think make for a good candidate. He's like, number one, have you felt emotionally numb for most of your life? And at that point in my life, absolutely. I think I was in a just cycles of numbness.”

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  29. “So, I never did drugs growing up. I maybe did pot once or twice and found it slowed me down to the point of I never wanted to do it again and just sort of walled that whole thing off as stuff that other people do. And then during COVID, I read the body keeps the score. And, you know, I had struggled with some things for my entire life in terms of anxiety and just getting stuck in kind of ruts of feeling. And it was 2021 January where I just remember talking about follow the flow. I stood up, went to my computer. I remember being in Miami at my parents' house, Googling ketamine treatment, New York City. I knew nothing about ketamine, like nothing.”

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  30. “It just feels very high stakes, and in the moment. So, you know, where writing is never in the moment, really, because you were constantly revising. This is immediate. And I just think it's awesome.”

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  31. “Wouldn't be as fun. There's something so energizing about the high stakes nature of a show. And also my assistant is this amazing dancer and musician. So he's part of it. I have backup dancers and he's one of them. So it's like we're almost this like ride together where”

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  32. “But it's always like when you think you can't find what the next thing is, it's like, what's the next zone of discomfort? So that's the silly thing I still do, but I think it's important for me somehow. I can't really let go of it, you know? Yeah, definitely.”

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  33. “To find happiness, I think Mike was telling me about this, the Japanese concept that once a year or once every two years you have to do something completely out of your comfort zone that is an extended journey. And in doing that, you find new reinvigoration for life. I think that's mine. Like every two years to go into this thing where I don't know how it's going to end. I don't know if it's going to work because always it's more ambitious or more interesting. So it's funny because this one was bigger and crazier. I just did it a couple months ago than anything we'd ever done before at the party. I was like, there's no way. I know myself. I can't top that what we did. And someone goes, well, what are you going to do now? Are you going to sing? And I was like, ha ha. And then I thought, huh, well”

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  34. “Day before rehearsals start, I'm always nauseous. I don't want to do it. I don't want to go through that whole experience because it's everything I'm bad at. There's a Japanese word. Have you heard misogy?”

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  35. “Two Julia Roberts strategy when she was an actress, the reason she had such longevity is she always did one movie where she had her hair red and curly and did a rom-com, and then she would do one when she hacked it off and played like Frankenstein's like made. You know, some crazy indie weird thing. But because she did it every other movie, whenever she came back, I was like, oh, thank God she back to doing, you know, pretty woman. So what's been important for me is it's less about, I get more than enough attention for the books and everything. I don't need it's not a, sure it is a narcissistic thing. What am I saying?”

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  36. “Just throwing money on fire. I do it every two years, that means the year in between some poor soul has to come, and it's inevitably a disaster. So then when I come back.”

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  37. “Was like, you know, we're going to do the variety show. It's going to be all new games and it's going to start with an eight song, six costume change dance number dedicated to whatever the themes are in YA. Almost like a version of like Billy Crystal's old Oscar thing, but even more extreme. And so I don't know what made me do it, but what was interesting is while we started working on it, and we got a choreographer and I don't know how to dance, and I started learning these dance steps, it was that process of training for it, learning how to dance, learning how to do choreography that was so awesome because it got me out of my head. And I started to fall in love with this process of designing a show, designing things, designing themes. It was a new way of telling a story from beginning to end. How do you entertain an audience of 3,000 people for 10 minutes? I fell in love with it and had the best time. But then I think I did it the next year. I've done it three times. And what I've realized is if I do it every two years, because it's so much work. It's so much.”

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  38. “Going to take over this show and turn it into my own private pop concert, and it's going to be amazing and it's going to be awesome and it's going to be like the greatest show on earth. I just remember having this thought. Like it was just like, this is my fantasy and it's going to happen. I grew up idolizing, you know this, everyone who knows me knows this, but I should probably say it. I grew up a huge Madonna fan. Like that was my pop start growing up. I'm obsessed with Taylor Swift. I'm obsessed with anyone who can translate whatever their talent is into some kind of cool showmanship cut to two years later. They were like, no one wants to host this show. Do you want to host it? And I was like, dude, I'd earned enough cred to be like, okay. I said, sure, as long as I can completely redo it 100% my way.”

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  39. “And I sit there and watch the worst show I've ever seen out. It is an abomination to make 3,000 people sit through that. The fact that I had to participate in some little part of it. And I remember having this thing. Secretly thinking.”

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  40. “And to get invited means you've officially made it. And all I ever wanted in my career was to get invited because your publisher can't pitch you. It's like one of these Sun Valley. Yeah, you must be invited. Must be invited. So I finally get invited. I'm so excited. And I go and it's the best two days of my life. I'm having the most amazing time. And I go to the final show called The SmackDown, which they charge like $12 to get into. It's 3,000 people in Charleston Music Hall. It's the most beautiful theater. And the authors participate in this kind of variety show.”

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  41. “It's an episode category because I should not still be doing this. But. In 2017, I went to this book festival for the first time in Charleston called Yallfest. That is like the biggest book festival for teenagers in the country. No kidding. Yeah, about 20,000 kids descend on this thing. Everybody comes there. It's where new projects, it's just a big festival that takes over Charleston.”

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  42. “He's just a special person. And so I just feel like we were talking about this like the same way I feel about resuscitating the teenage mind and soul, he feels about men because I think he's seen it all having been an ex-SEL for sure.”

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  43. “He was introduced to me through the best story. The boy I was in love with in high school was a kid named Noah who I was obsessed with. And of course, you know, he's now married with children, everything like that. Everyone knew this story except him. And then one day someone finally told him, you do realize that Solomon spent like most of his high school career trying to get your attention. He just was like, what? And so then we reconnected, became friends. And he's like, you have to meet Mike because, you know, I don't know what it was. Mike was in New York and he just felt like we would bond and we met. And that was.”

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  44. “Especially in this world. So I just think he's someone to look out for. And I think the website is one COA, one COA for course of action.”

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  45. “Very differently. Talk about another person on my list then. He just moved to Austin. His name is Mike Regula R E G U L A is an ex Navy SEAL and he is here starting a company called Course of Action, which what I want to do for teenagers he's doing for men. And it's using basic Navy SEAL kind of concepts and training to basically get men to both individually and in groups look at their lives and make proactive change to become more connected to what they want. So basically, it's every man who feels like they haven't quite found their way back onto a path or they've lost their tribe or anything like that. He's just trying to find a kind of safe space for men to work on, whether it's the psychological part, the nutrition part, the fitness part, the emotional part, and in groups. And I think it's just so needed.”

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  46. “And also, because I'd come from film school where they drill into you what is your character want, why do they want it? And I did that every page of that book, which is why I think it reads quickly because you just know what everybody wants at any given moment. And I realized that I'm working with these kids and no one knows what they want. They follow the flow in the wrong direction because the flow is taking them towards anxiety and comparison. If I spend my life on Instagram and TikTok, I would die because it's just the wrong inputs to make me find my.”

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  47. “Because I feel like I could use that exercise now. But that's how for college essays. So my specialty when I was tutoring was college essays. I used to go in there and help them come up with the perfect essay topic. All I needed was three days with them and I would spend three days asking that question over and over and looking at pieces of their life and us talking about it until we came up with what do you want and why do you want it?”

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  48. “And why does he want to fight at the end of the day? You have to keep going down until you hit a base level. Like, is he trying to save his self esteem? Is he trying to prove something to his family? Whatever it is. And then on the second day, after we work on that with characters, I do that for themselves. The teenager, I'm like, what do you want in front of the class? So there's usually 12 people. And that's when you start to get somewhere.”

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  49. “Oh, God of least a few hundred. Yeah, probably a few hundred. I miss it, but also I got the connection through the books. And also what's funny is I started doing writing camps where I got hosted by writing camps. And there was always a curriculum that they wanted us to teach or whatever. And I would just go in there and do my own thing. And the first thing I would work on with each kid is when you write, you need to know what your characters want. And you need to know at the deepest basis level. Let's say a character wants to play lacrosse. He wants to be a champion lacrosse player. That's where most people will stop. But you need to ask, well, why does he want to be a champion lacrosse player in order to want to?”

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  50. “Even I was thinking about teenagers, right? Let's say you have, and this is told parents this many times, most of the time they didn't listen, but I gave them the secret, which was when your kid takes initiative and does something on their own, like they start making their bed, or they start working out, you know, after school, do not mention it. Don't say, it's great you made the bed, or that's so cool that you're working out. Do not, then it's your thing. That means every time they're going to go make the bed, they're now thinking of your approval. And little by little, it's going to stop them doing it. Because it's now become your thing. Leave it. It's their thing.”

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