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  1. Because also it meant that I could take all the risks in my writing, right? So even now, I know I can do other jobs. I could go back to tutoring. I could teach at a university. I could work with kids and teenagers in some way. So I'm happy to take the risk on this book instead of chasing the money because there's no pressure on it. So I think that's the important thing. I feel like if you're writing With that desperate white knuckle mercenary form money, it increases the chance that what you're

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  2. What parents are going to say go fight School, you just are not going to do it. And so it's stuff like that where I just feel like sometimes kids need to be seen for who they are. And in order for us to get out of this crisis, I think people are like, oh, mental health crisis. I feel like there needs to be a third party, whether it's even as much as teen groups. Like I was just thinking about the fact that on any given night, if you're an alcoholic or you have a drug addiction or whatever, you can just go to an AA meeting and you can have that group experience. And I felt like, why isn't there that for teenagers, like this idea that you can just go to a space and meet other teenagers on a given night and have that kind of place to talk to or experience? And yes, you can do it online, but I just think the more you get into your phone, the further you often get away from actually who you are and real connection. So I don't know. I have no formal thoughts on how this should happen. I just do miss that part of my old job, which was going into the house and helping kids.

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  3. Yeah, just, you know, everything else. And I thought to myself, I just said to him, I said, and his whole goal in life was to be popular and party and all that stuff. And I said, I don't know if partying is your goal in reality. I feel like your real goal is that you want to fight. That's what you actually want to do. What you really want to do is not drink and like hang out with your friends. It's you want to drink so you can beat them up at the end of the night. Every night ended in aggro. And so I said, and I researched, I said, there's a UFC gym like four minutes from your house. Go take a class. 16-year-old, go take a class. Takes a class, loves it, is now there like three, four times a week, having the time of his life, drinking went way down, everything got back on track, got a job to fund the UFC thing. Everything's fine.

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  4. Not just help them with school, but get them on a better track out of their phone and stop worrying about what everybody else wanted them to be, including their parents and more focusing on who they actually were. The mental health crisis that's affecting almost all teenagers is this sort of existential dread. I would have loved to if I hadn't become a writer. And I still feel like this is going to be part of my life somehow. I would love to kind of be the like Mary Poppins who can go into a house and just be like, let's get this on track. Like I'll give you an example. In a way that parents can't. So the one kid was getting off track because he was drinking a lot and getting in trouble and all that sort of stuff. And I noticed that every time I saw him, he was talking about going out partying and at the end of the night, you know, having wrestling matches with all his friends and getting into these sort of physical fights with people. And he was always beating up on his younger brother. They were just always physical with this thing. And one day, like, we're trying to solve all the other stuff.

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  5. Yes. So after Gen Z has generated hope. And that's like who our teenagers know. They're growing up in an impossible situation with everything that's happening with the world and the phones getting more. It's just impossible. And when I was a tutor, I was a tutor for 10 years. And what I loved the most was when, because I could tutor every subject. That was one of my, I was such a nerd in school that I just really could tutor any subject. And I loved it when a parent just sort of outsourced their entire child's home life to me. But I loved it because I could get to the bottom of what made them tick and what was important and starting to really.

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  6. Oh, that's an A I realized that I can only do two jobs in my life. There's only two things I'm good at. And there's only one thing I would like to do as much as I like writing.

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  7. The talent is like insane, like the way he places everything. I almost want to like pause for a second and show you the art.

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  8. Yeah, as soon as you start looking at his art, you're going to be like, and also he has a crazy story, which is they had a photo of him up on the wall. And I was like, that's him. He was a supermodel. He was a supermodel, this rugged supermodel, who then, I don't know, used his wealth to then like do what he really wanted to do, which was be Indiana Jones. It's incredible.

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  9. North Carolina, we are on a family reunion trip and we went to the museum with my niece and nephew who are teenagers. And that was the little fun thing. Then I bought all his books. I follow him on Instagram and I just think it's the most fun.

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  10. Of making the most spectacular art out of it so that it almost looks, if they were fake, it would still be equally impressive. So the fact that he's going there, making these relationships, getting animals that convincing these tribes to hold on to animals that they find the whole thing is insane. And the fact that this guy isn't the most famous person in the world to me is shocking.

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  11. But this is because they're real animals. And so the idea of I spend my life creating fantasies and then to see that the real world has more fantastical things than you'll ever see. And he has just so many great ones where you'll see like he'll just make art out of maybe a thousand butterflies that he's collected. But the colors of the butterflies are, you've never seen stuff like this before. It's almost like, you know, when you think of the deep sea fish that you've never seen before, he's finding this up on land. So the beetles, the snakes, the this. But then he has this additional talent of

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  12. So he's almost like Indiana Jones. He works with remote tribes in the Amazon. He'll just go all over the earth to find animals we've never seen before and then makes art out of them. Christopher Marley I have all his books and I saw an exhibition of his in person, and it was the most inspiring, beautiful thing I have ever seen.

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  13. Have you heard of this guy named Christopher Marley? He is an artist, but his canvas only works with preserved animals from strange parts of the earth.

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  14. Sometimes I feel that way. So his job is to figure out somehow subliminally without making a mess of it is do they have a bunch? Like what's all that

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  15. I don't know You know what? If they're teenagers, I feel completely at home. Adults sometimes I'm like, are your minds frozen? Is there anything I can do to keep away at the calcificat

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  16. Scheduling, school visits, anything that involves a calendar date, and also negotiating. That's the, I get asked to speak constantly, whether it's adults looking for a creative spark at a corporation or whether it's schools or whether it's a book festival. It's just you've been through this many, many speaking games.

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  17. Make me a list of this or something very like Task Orian It'll just be like, show me something. And that's kind of like the bigger thing. And then giving freedom for him to structure it, him to figure out how he's going to present it, him to have investment in it. So the same thing when we did Be some beauty, we were presenting it to the studios to get a buyer for the TV series. I said, how do we present this? How do we present the book? Come up with whatever you think is the best way. Ultimately, he designed this amazing presentation, and therefore when we sell it, it's easy for me to go to the studio and say, June has to be a producer on it. Because he was the one who had the whole presentation. So it's that sort of thing. It's like, I give very once in a while, give very few task-oriented things and more like, worry about this for me.

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  18. In that case, I was like, it's not that I'm looking for a storyline. I'm just looking for, all right, knowing what I'm interested in, give me some characters from there that are interesting. Give me a world that's interesting. And so rather than it being like,

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  19. An example would be like in the case of DC, I was like, I don't know anything about DC comics. What am I writing about? What am I going to do?

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  20. My I think to me the most important thing, especially when you find someone who just has so much talent and capability, like June has, is that I don't give tasks. I give massive projects that are extraordinarily difficult.

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  21. Well, it's also funny because I think it's uniquely suited to the young to be able to have that mindset. And I told him, I said, if you can master this thing of thinking about the worst case scenarios and everything, that's what I did when I was young and working as assistant. You're going to be like, Mega mogul Will because that's part of your thinking in a way that it isn't for other people

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  22. Having a partner who has the opposite viewpoint, if I was with someone who also had the worst case scenario, dangerous because then you're just, who's going to screw in the light bulb when you're too busy worrying against all the other things that are never going to happen? At some point, someone has to take care of the basics

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  23. But see, I cheat, I offload it to my assistant. That's his job. Like, I literally am like. You're the worst case scenario person. So he's in charge of ensuring against those things. And now that he's been with me a while, in a way that's become his thing. And he's even more kind of obsessive about predicting all those things. And it's what makes him so amazing. As he's risen in the ranks. So in a way, I'm a little lucky that I'm not the one staying at this.

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  24. Secretly got them all private when we were watching. That's the funny part. So he was right. And therefore it validates, you know, he thinks it validates him. But to me. I think I get calmer and more at peace when that worst case scenario is protected against.

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  25. Like artificial insemination, everything. And I realized it's just a different way that we operate. My entire life, I told my sister this on day one. I said, your job is to always think of the worst case scenario and insure against it. That's your only job every day. What's the worst thing that can happen and make sure it doesn't happen? doesn't think that way because he says that costs money. It just does. You spend too much money on things that statistically shouldn't happen. And I thought there's something profound in that. Your bull might be gay has become the kind of like flag waving motto on the farm because Turns out the bull was not gay.

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  26. All I care about in life is the worst case scenario. So to me, the moment I'm like, that bull is gay, all I'm doing is finding all the evidence that it's gay and being like, here is the action plan for the gay bull. We are getting every female pregnancy tested. You're having the vet come out. You're checking this firm again. You're doing this. You're bringing out that fancy machine that triggers them. Like I'm spending in my head. I'm getting them to spend thousands of dollars on this gay bowl to make sure it still gets them pregnant.

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  27. Is where he's like, that's impossible. He's like, you know, we tested it. It's firm. It's very healthy. It's like it's a good bull. And the chance of a bull being gay and not impregnating these 60 females, he's like, it's maybe like 0.05%. In my head, all I'm thinking about is worst case scenario. Because if that ball is gay, that means he not only doesn't get these 60 females pregnant, he loses a season. He loses all the money from the cav sets coming. And it's literally like a catastrophic thing that can happen to him. And I realized that people entertain worst case scenarios differently. His is statistically this isn't happening. So therefore, I'm not going to prepare for it. I'm not going to spend a dollar preparing for that worst case scenario because statistically it doesn't make sense.

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  28. And so when I was with, he was like, the problem is this ball has been here for four years, meaning he's now impregnated not just the heifers, but their daughters, their sisters, their granddaughters. Like the cows don't care. They just, you know, so at some point you need to get a new bull. So he goes and gets this new bull that he's very excited about. He comes and brings the ball. And the first thing the bull does when it comes to the farm is it like nuzzles up to me and is really nice to me. And it's just this very sweet bowl. And over the next like few weeks, every time I see the bull, he's off like picking flowers or like... Hanging out with this little orphan male calf and like licking him, the females are literally just staring at him because they're all in heat and nothing's happening. I said Your ball might be gay

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  29. So he's got over 100 cattle and he's got the 60 heifers every year that get impregnated by one bull, right? So one bull that does all the work. And he keeps a bull for, in this case, he had a bull for four years. A miss bull, when I saw it, I was like O man, where he walks like the ground like shakes the female's part, they like bow their heads. It's like the lion king, right? Like his balls are the size of coconuts. Like what men in Austin, the patriarchy they aspire to here, like that religion that I see men here go for is that bull. They need to spend time with that bull and everything will be fine.

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  30. I told you when we stand out. I told you that none of these are euphemisms, right? None of these are types. So this is the story. I lived in New York for 22 years. I now live in St. Louis. I moved there for love for my partner who is a farmer and lives on a goat and cattle farm of his own. And I go there every weekend and spend, you know, three or four days there. And so I'm that annoying person who drops in every weekend and has thoughts about what he's been working on all week. So anyway, he's got, I think, the helicopter part. Helicopter farmer from the city. Helicopter farmer. There's never been anywhere near a farm who has thoughts all the time.

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  31. I remember for beleaguered agent, it was like, what? And I was like, thank God. You know, like it kept the theme, that narrative in my life complete because had that been published, it would have been the first time. And the fact that it went up completely in smoke on its own accord was, I think the universe being like, you are on a frequency and we will help you when you get off it. So as long as back to follow the flow, as long as I follow that flow, everything's going to be okay.

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  32. Short story for them, and everyone in my life, every male thought, forget what you've done before. This 20 page thing you're doing for DC Comics means you've arrived. And I'm like, okay, thanks. And so I go through the process with them. It's a nightmare because, you know, they're making changes to the characters. They're just moving things around because it's the DC machine or whatever. And, you know, I spend six months on it, obviously, doing my own work at the same time, but going through it. The whole time I'm thinking, this is getting further and further away from me, you know, to the point of, okay, I'll take the check and whatever. And then at the last second, like it all fizzled like the editorial didn't approve of this and moved this and the whole thing just went poof right as it was about to print. The art was already done, everything.

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  33. Hopefully, if people Well, the other thing that was interesting that helped me the most, and I wish this on every young writer, anytime I did something for money or something that wasn't 100% like me that someone hired me to do, they all fell apart, like without fail, none of it ever came out. So there's not a single thing out there in the world by me. That was a mercenary job. I mean, I took them in my 20s and 30s. It just, they never made it there. So I think that was kind of the World kind of telling because it happens so many times, at least 10 times. So after that, I just learned we're not doing this, like even to the point of, I'll get in trouble for talking about this story, but who cares? DC Comics hired me to do

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  34. Scorpio and Evil came out at a time where that year there were eight other books about magic schools because it had been 10 years since Harry Potter and it felt like 10 years later the floodgates open and everyone was like now all the narcissists who think they can compete with JK Rowling are ready to show their wares. And so an agent was frantic. The publisher was nervous. Everyone was nervous because there were much bigger books. I think Chris Kulfer, who was on Glee, had one and Mattel was putting one out called Ever After High, which Ever After High School Freaking Evil, like it just, they were so similar. And I was never worried because I'm like, mine is so weird. It's so strange. It's just so uniquely me. I just knew there wasn't going to be, I'm like, maybe mine will be a total flop, but whoever reads it will never compare it to any of those others, you know. And that I was confident in. I just have a very strange way of storytelling because it's just mine. I don't know how to follow other people's things.

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  35. Yeah, I always say the test is can someone else do it? So that's when I have the idea. I'm always like, sure, someone else can do this. But then if they don't and time goes on and I start to see, this is what happened with this idea because when I first had it a few years ago, I thought, I don't know how to do that. It's too hard. It's just not in my wheelhouse. And as the years went by, little by little, I started to be like, well, what if I could do this and this place to my strengths and move this around? Then all of a sudden you realize you're ready. You know what I mean? So I think it's about

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  36. Do it for my entertainment so I can see and realize, you know, because there's only so many. Things I'm going to be able to do, but I'm jealous of songwriters who, if they have a great idea, they make their one song. You know what I mean? This is, every time I have a big idea, it's... A couple years, you know.

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  37. Thing I do want to get a big idea that I'm really excited about is I start to tell everybody. I just am like someone should do this. I tell all my writer friends. I tell anybody. Sometimes I'll just have meetings with Hollywood companies about adapting other work or stuff like that. I'm doing it really to be like someone should do this idea. And sometimes it gets picked up and they'll give it to someone else or, you know, there's many times where I've had ideas or something and someone is as kind of done that version of it. But if no one takes it, then after a few years sometimes it's so strong that that's when I do it.

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  38. It's the idea of, I get a lot of big ideas and I will not write a book until I've had the idea for at least three years. Like it has to stay with me for three years because it's going to take me that long to write. And I need to be sure that it's not going to suddenly be a short term relationship. And it feels also like it's timeless then. If it lasts three years, it's made it through most of a presidential administration. It's made it through all the ups and downs. I feel like it's going to last. And so.

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  39. It's fiction. It's fiction. Okay. It's fiction. It's a fiction that I would like to happen. So it's predictive fiction. And it's so funny because when we announce it, which will be soon enough, all these things that we're going to talk about today, it's all there.

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  40. Clearly, your second thing should be to capitalize on that, and nothing in my body will let me do it. So I have been happy as a clam working on this other thing. And I realize that it comes down to what you want your life to be. And mine is not getting diminishing returns on the ghost of a past work, even for a lot of money.

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  41. No, you can't change. In fact, it's funny. We took it to my current publisher, like 10 pages of it, and just the general thing of the ideas. And I've been with them for 10 years writing fairy tales. And they were like, the idea of me moving into kind of a different age bracket and this is not fairy tales at all. I mean, this is far from it as possible. They wouldn't even entertain the idea. Wouldn't even go there and it still did nothing to shake me whatsoever. You know, like I was just like. And it's funny because my parents, my agent, everyone's like.

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  42. It's more like you feel like a cult leader. You're like, this is the thing. Like, this is the true way. Yeah. Like, this is now my church. People are going to join. I just need to write the thing that, you know, like it becomes your whole personality.

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  43. Hopefully, ever after princes, princesses. So I start working on this short story and I start getting into it. And then I feel that feeling. It's that feeling that I felt was school for good and evil, which is I don't care who reads this. I don't care what happens to this. This is mine. No one's taking it away from me. I am doing this at the expense of all other things. I don't care

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  44. Not yet. Sorry. All right Soon because we're about to take it out. Meanwhile, my poor Asian, he knows that whatever I say the next thing is going to be and it's not going to be the next thing. So I tell him, I'm just going to try this idea as a short story because, you know, we've sold short stories before. He's like, okay, while he comes up with this next fairy tale, he will do his short story. Do the short story. Must appease the talent or get you your green M&Ms. Just waiting for me to come back with Neverland Wonderland. He doesn't care what it is.

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  45. It's not me. I can't do this. This is too hard. I just woke up and was like, okay, you know what? Idea, let's try writing it as a short story instead. That idea is so important and no one's done it, and everyone says it can't be done or whatever. So I start working on it, give it to my agent.

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  46. I had a fairy tale fantasy that I wanted to do. I wanted to reinvent Neverland, sort of do a Game of Thrones version of Neverland. I had the whole thing planned out. My conscious brain mapped out over the course of a year and a half, an entire world while I was writing school for Geneva. I would doodle it in notebooks. I had everything. And then when it came time to write it, I wrote the first two chapters, went to sleep, and the next day was like, this is not my next book. And it came from just this feeling of which the only way I can describe it is there was part of me that is like, we are not going to spend two years following the wrong impulse, which the wrong impulse was money, easy root, right? The easy root. And instead, this other idea that I've been noodling around and been trying to give away to people for the last five years, I had told everyone this idea of being like someone should do this idea. This idea is super important. Someone should do this.

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  47. I think what ends up happening is that I know what my conscious mind can do. So for instance, every publisher wants me to write a fairy tale fantasy next. Because Gulf of Guidievil was my first. It was abnormally successful. Therefore, I will get paid infinite amount of money, have infinite amount of resources to write a fairy tale fantasy.

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  48. Coming to you rather than you making it. And I think especially in creative work where obviously I'm going to be working two or three years on a novel, my brain will not let me work on something unless it decides it. So I realize more and more as time goes on that I am just the manager. I'm the manager of the creativity. I'm not the actual creator. The elves are they're going to tell me what to do. They're going to be the ones who tell you what the next book's going to be. They're the ones who are going to come up with the chapter titles. They're going to do everything. I just have to show up.

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  49. Interesting because every time I've decided to write a novel, like what my next book is going to be and I telegraph this to my agent and my publisher for a couple years, when it comes time to write that book, I'll start it, but it never ends up being the book I write next ever. And what I realized is that your conscious mind can't actually solve problems. It can execute. It can deliver on the

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  50. I wrote a series called The School for Geneva for ten years. There are six books in the series and a Netflix made a movie out of it that came out last year. And then another book a little bit for older audiences called Beesome Beauty, which is going to be a TV show sometime soon. So those are kind of my two main things.

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