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  1. Their political behavior tends to signal that they're mostly Democrats, but they're not going to call themselves something that doesn't reflect who they are and doesn't reflect their values, which is why it is so critical for democratic candidates who have progressive values to talk about those values consistently, to never sway from those values, which is not the same as, I can't work with you. It simply means you know where I'm starting out. Here are the principles I stand on. Here's how I'm going to filter information. Here's the goal I have for you. A good political leader knows how to get everyone to go there with him or her. And a great political leader can get everyone to go there and make them all think it was their idea before they got there.

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  2. Dorsha has a significant young population too, which is somewhat unique. And so I find it interesting that among 18 to 21-year-olds who register to vote for the first time 35% of them register as independents. 35% of 18 to 21 year olds registers independence. So that means they're up for grabs.

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  3. Do things they care about. That's how you get gender loyalty. That's how you engender engagement. You actually speak a language that reflects their needs and you do something. Democrats have not And so my point is that we have to truly be the big tent party we've always said we were. But that means under the tent, you're going to have the Bernie folks and you're going to have the Hillary folks and you're going to have the Obama folks and you're going to have the none of the above folks. That's okay. My campaign actually is comprised of folks from every faction of the Democratic universe intentionally because I cannot win this without building a coalition. Democrats cannot win without coalition building. But what we have to do is value every member of the coalition and that's what black women are responding to, that we do not always feel valued because we are not part of the conversation in leadership. We're not part of the investment. We're not part of the...

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  4. And so, but there was just a recent poll that said that African American women are down to 74% of support for the Democratic Party from something like 86% just a year ago that increasingly people are feeling like the party's not speaking to them. It's not that they're moving to Republicans. They're not voting, which is what Kara's point is that do you have to have an alternative system or is it just that...

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  5. Do you think that part of the cynicism of the people around this is connected to the fact that people don't believe that the parties represent them? I was interested in a recent Essence magazine poll. African American women have traditionally been the most loyal Democrats ever. So I think Hillary Clinton got 95% of African American women votes, the highest of any population.

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  6. Parties are shorthand for the principles we hold to be true. The reason America has really only ever sustained two parties is that we tend to be very binary in how we talk about who we are. Now, within that, we will fight about who owns what part of our half of the binary, but that's just the way we are. I think that parties always recast what they believe and evolve in their basic premises, but do I believe that we're suddenly going to have a parliamentary style system with 115 parties? No. I think that we will remain by and large a two-party system where the two parties have no idea who's there.

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  7. So, when you think about the Democratic Party going forward, and all parties, because it feels like the Republican Party is just fracturing beyond belief, even though they're in power, completely fractured. Do you imagine a complete changing of the party system? I know everyone talks about that, but it kind of feels a little, maybe not. Maybe it's happened before.

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  8. But to the larger question, yes, being women, I think Stacey Evans is doing an important job too by running. I intend to win, but I think either of us will face a phalanx of issues and gendered conversations. But what I want to make sure people think about is that it's different running as a white woman than running as a black woman. That's not right. And it's not Easy, but it's also not a reason not to do it. And so when the conversations I like to have is that regardless of what happens, we're changing the face of what leadership looks like in Georgia. And that's an important piece.

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  9. But there's language that we use for women. There's specific language that you cannot use for black women. And we have our own lexicon of things that you cannot say or that we cannot do.

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  10. What do you get? When I told him he could call, he could use outraged. He could use anything else, but you don't get to call me an

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  11. Yeah, absolutely. And I think it's important to note there's a complicating factor. So there's a race conversation, there's a gender conversation, and then there's a black woman conversation. Because black women have a completely separate set of issues that we got to deal with too. And it's true for a lot of women of color, but it's most acute for black women. There, I had to have a conversation with the reporter once because he called me angry in a story.

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  12. Only apply when they're talking about people of color or women, always in bore. I always talk about that idea is when they have all these all male boards and then you say, why don't you have a more diverse board? They're like, well, we have standards. You didn't when you selected those terrible men who are running blank company, but that's the only time they bring up the word, which is fascinating to me. But again, I will ask it sort of as do you feel like there is an important gender discussion to be going on? I mean, it's not a small thing for you to be the first woman. Oh, absolutely.

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  13. Yes, my opponent is And that's my point. I mean, it is incredibly reductive. We don't have a lot of conversations about our qualifications

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  14. Exactly, and that there are some incredibly banal conversations held about us where the men running in the Republican on the Republican side are treated as individuals fully capable of You guys are just the women. We're women. And we have the same first name. So interchangeable, but we certainly are not held always capable of having there's a lot of

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  15. The challenge with gender, my opponent in the primary is a woman, so the gender piece plays a little less in that, except to the extent that.

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  16. But also I'm drawn into conversations that don't reflect the fact that I'm the most qualified person running for office. I have a really good record. I've been an executive. I've been a political leader. I've been a civic leader. I've gotten good stuff done. And sometimes I am only the black candidate. So, anyone else who gets something done, they get credit for that.

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  17. I think people are confounded by how to grapple with our changing diversity and they are desperate for someone who can give them a short answer to a long, complicated problem. And when I speak, I do not speak just as myself. I speak as every black person they've never met. I speak on behalf of every person of color that they may like or dislike. And I don't have the luxury of not speaking because I happen to be the only one. And so I have the responsibility to be a voice, but that also comes with the very problematic responsibility of being the voice that people hear. And so if I say something wrong, it's attributed to everyone.

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  18. Talking to as many people as possible, and that they understand what I'm saying, that I am not running to be the black governor. I'm not running to be the Democratic governor. I'm running to build a coalition of voters who will vote for me because they believe in the principles I hold to be true, but to govern for everyone, whether they agreed with me or not. And as a person of color, it is a vulnerability. I'm going to talk about race because race is an inherent part of who I am, who we are as Americans, and it does dictate a lot of our policies, but that doesn't mean that I'm so reductive as to be unable to have broader conversations.

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  19. And so stabilizing and growing Georgia is essential to America, and I need people to understand the urgency of the governor's race there. My vulnerability is that I am worried that I am not spending enough time talking to enough people outside of the campaign trail. I spend a lot of time talking to average citizens, but this is a race that is won by talking to elites, by talking to the privilege, as well as talking to everyone. My responsibility is to have those broad conversations and those narrow conversations at the same time. And I'm afraid this answer sounds like what's your weakness? So I care too much. That's not what I mean. I hate people who do that. I don't care at all. Give me the power I need to establish things. So for me, it is making sure that I'm talking to the...

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  20. My vulnerability is that it's a viability argument. When no one has done what you want to do, it's hard for people to see that it can be done. And as a black woman running to be, I mean, I didn't even, you know, I picked the deep south. So it's convincing people, Georgia is a winnable state and then convincing people that a black woman can win Georgia The numbers say I'm right on both counts, but viability is a hard thing to explain to people. It's also hard to explain the urgency of this because most people just kind of relegate the South to the South. Georgia is the eighth largest state. We are one of the fastest growing states in the nation. We're the largest economies in the country. And you can't get to America without coming through Atlanta.

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  21. But we at the same time have to prepare for the fact that he's not going to be there forever. And that's why I'm running the campaign I'm running because I believe Democrats have to figure out a different way to win. We lost this last election. And there are important inputs for us to understand why we lost. But the reality is they're just going to get trickier the next time. No one's going to ever make it easy to win. So we have to think about what are the things that we own, what's in our arsenal, how do we navigate. That's the place where I worry about our party because I think we spend so much time in retrospection that we don't actually learn lessons.

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  22. Yes, Donald Trump is an apostasy of actual progress. Put that aside. So we have to be resistant to that because otherwise we will start to normalize and internalize his narrative and we will start to see even more than we do today immigrants as spectres against whom we have to fight and we will think that being transgender means the end of the world. So we can't relent on the fight.

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  23. Being for something doesn't mean you can't also be against. And again, this is the whole walking and chewing gum at the same time. We got to be against Trump because he's against us. He is against our families. He's against our communities. He has no positive programming that I can see that would actually benefit the people for whom I stand. And that is irrespective of race, gender.

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  24. I have heard Corey Booker say interesting things about this. I think that Rokana has had conversations about this. I think Elizabeth Warren and the way she is pushing the narrative about how we invest is anticipating that we've got to have an economic system that can sustain the transitions that are happening. I have not seen this become a central conversation for anyone yet. And again, I think part of it is that we're trying to survive, so we haven't really thought about how do we fight on new fronts. And I think that's one of the places where I want to enter the conversation because this is a conversation that's going to have to happen on a state-by-state level. Because what's going to happen in Georgia is not what South Dakota is facing. So for Heidi Heidkamp, she has a different set of issues she's got to be thinking about. And it's not what's happening in California because you guys, I mean, California's like a whole new world. So we have to each own our responsibility for how we take these national conversations.

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  25. Narratives to understand what this means, not only here, but what's happening in other countries, how are they adapting. It's the responsibility of good politicians and good public servants to educate yourself about what's out there. It's the responsibility of those who do this work to make sure that you share it, that it's not this echo chamber of conversation. It's the responsibility of our national leadership to be able to think about what this means because we are never going to bring back all the jobs we used to have. It will never happen. Therefore, we have to not only prepare for the 21st century and where we are today, but we have to prepare for the second half of the 21st century and where we want to be then. And we're not doing that sufficiently.

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  26. Not yet. And I will say this I think for Jane and others, the people who are thinking about it are thinking about it so deeply there's not a lot of space for other conversations. So the responsibility of folks like me, it's to seek out those conversations, which is why I know what Jane is doing and I spend time looking at futurist.

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  27. Riveting is what it is. On both sides. I would say that for Democrats, and it's one thing I talk about in my campaign, Democrats spend so much time fighting for survival we forget to think about success. We don't talk about what happens after you survived because we're trying to preserve what we have. We're not always, I think, doing enough to talk about what's next. And so I do think Democrats are at fault because we have to be anticipating. Part of that's believing we're going to win again. And so I think that can be part of our impetus. I will say Jane Kim, who is a former city council member in San Francisco. She may still be on the city council. Jane is talking about automation. What does that mean? Because she's at the heart of it. And so she's having conversations with colleagues and with folks around the country about how do we adjust for that. That's smartness. I like Jane's little

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  28. I would say that we have a very dysfunctional presidency and we have an impotent congressional structure that right now doesn't seem to be able to think about anything.

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  29. I think there's some Democrats who are talking about it. I think we have, it's being able to walk into gum at the same time. We're so focused right now on the mere survival of America that we're not necessarily having the full conversations about what the next iteration of economic waves look like.

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  30. And that they get something from it. So when you think about nationally President Trump and the Republicans are not really having this conversation as Karras? Not at all. They're not having this conversation. I'm going to turn the cuter on. How do you think Democrats are doing in putting ideas on the table and having a conversation that's

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  31. You can anticipate this. We know what's coming. So let's have the conversation now with businesses about who are you retraining in your offices? Who are you retraining in your companies to make sure that they are still viable employees? And for those that you don't think you're going to need, what's your responsibility in working with government to make sure that they're being given a longer lead time and figuring out what happens next?

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  32. Exactly, that STEAM education is not for just those kids who are going to be gearheads. STEAM education is for everyone. So making certain that no matter which school district you're in, no matter which school you're in, that you have full education and full opportunity. It's making sure that we have retraining opportunities. That's why our technical colleges are so critical, advanced to manufacturing, so community colleges in some states, we call them technical colleges in Georgia. Advanced manufacturing skills can be learned, but they can't be learned two months after you lost your job. So we need to be having these conversations now about what kind of retraining and educational opportunities are we offering to folks. How are we working with the companies that are going to move into automation to make sure that they're a partner in the kind of training so that instead of what we saw during the decline of manufacturing in America when jobs started leaving, it was sort of a surprise to everyone.

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  33. You have to think about the fact that you should be able to learn robotics no matter where you go to school. So I'm working with.

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  34. Well, I think that the challenge is that, again, if you look at the demography of Georgia and the economic demography in particular, again, you've got a quarter of your population that is of color is admirable of the poverty line. That means that they're in that lowest band you're talking about. Probably we're not a high wealth state. So you do have some billionaires. I don't know many of them, but they're there. But Georgia built its economy on agriculture. There's automation happening there. So what do you do? How do you make certain that families that have been isolated from technology and isolated from good education are getting it? Part of that means that as the governor, I have to think about education.

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  35. In the metro Atlanta area, in the urban areas, it's 100%, but they can't afford it. So we have to start with some basic fundamentals. One is that automation is coming. Technology is coming. The future is here. Once you understand that, the question is what role and responsibility does government have to be an intercessor or to be a mitigator intercessor is to stop something from happening or to divert it. Mitigator is to say, okay, it's coming, so how do we make sure we're ready for it when it gets here? I think Georgia is not yet as engaged as it should be because we still have to get caught up with the 20th century when it comes to internet access and broadband. But there are other ways where we are thinking about

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  36. Absolutely. And I think in a state like Georgia, where we have every one of those striations, it's incredibly important. 60% of Georgians and rural Georgia do not have access to, only 60% of Georgians in rural Georgia have access to the internet.

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  37. Percent is doing rather well from it, billionaires. They become billionaires. There's a group in the bottom that are utterly lost. They're not part of the discussion. They're not part of the technology. They may have a cell phone, but the future is not a good thing for them, and the future's not built for them in any way. And then there's a group, most people are in the middle from the working class to the upper middle class, but in that range, which they love technology in a lot of ways, they see it's the future, and yet they're not, they're frightened of it and stuff like that. All these technologies that are coming are quite serious, and it's another major shift in how we do work. How do you think of those things? Do you think of them at all? Because I see our federal government not at all understanding what's coming down the pike. So I think it is up to governors to really understand it.

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  38. Or worse, are you demeaning the people who should be invested? Those are the things that we should be talking about. And those are the ways you should use social media.

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  39. I've been inside my house. Oh, no, no, but my point is that that piece is irrelevant to me. What's relevant to me is, are you pushing out bad information about my policies? Are you pushing out bad information about my politics?

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  40. Our mission, and certainly the mission of my campaign is that we're not going to get into this death spiral of negativism. I don't intend to win by denigrating my opponent. I don't intend to win by denying her humanity or in the general by casting aspersions on whoever the Republican is. That's the wrong use of social media. But you got to be prepared for it and be ready to respond. And so one thing I think we are doing very effectively is getting our message out to such a degree and with such granularity that when people hear it, they don't automatically believe it to be so. There's some conversations I don't really care about. So you can question whether or not why I don't have a boyfriend. I'm just really bad at dating, would love to find the guy, but he has not presented himself and as an introvert.

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  41. But there was a recent South Park episode about fake news and about it, it was wonderful. And it's real. And the reality is

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  42. Where social media can be effective or harmful is the extent to which you let it go unanswered. I don't know if either of you watch South Park.

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  43. No, no, it's okay. I mean, there were questions about why I'm single and questions about my beliefs. It's okay. And here's the thing. Politics has always been this way. It has been thus from the Whisper campaign. It's the way the politics work.

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  44. Look, there. Fallacious information that's been shared about me. And that's going to happen. The issue is making certain that

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  45. In quick fashion, why they care. Facebook gives you a little more space to talk about it. It's great for pushing out events, but it's also fantastic for using for ads. So we can drive your attention to issues that we want you to pay attention to. Instagram is a way to build enthusiasm because people see where you are. They understand that you care about their communities. I've now exhausted my knowledge. I don't know what Snapchat does.

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  46. So Facebook is a really good tool for us to push out our messaging. So Twitter is snippets and you can do a good Twitter thread, but there's only so much you can use it for. But it's very helpful for pushing out information about policy and getting people to understand event and getting people to understand.

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  47. My Twitter handle is at Stacey Abrams. I can be found on Facebook at Stacey Abrams. I can be found on Instagram, and I believe I'm also on Snapchat. I'm 43, so I'm getting into the weeds about what I actually am on. But I think if there's a social media platform, I have a presence there.

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  48. Absolutely. In Georgia, 80% of our potential voters are on Facebook. So it absolutely is a tool for communication. That's why I wanted to talk about technology, media, social media, television. Radio. I've got now 28,000 followers on Twitter, which I don't know 28,000 people. That is an amazing tool for me to use to push out messaging

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  49. But we've already got some pretty good metrics that are showing us people who haven't voted in years past are actually talking to our campaign, people who are registered but don't turn out are volunteering. Those are some interesting metrics we have to get them to scale and we can't use them to extrapolate too much just yet. But it's also why we have to start so early. If I waited until May of the primary to start this conversation, there is no path to victory. By starting in June of 2018, of 2017 and really launching our hardcore field in July, we were able to get good data that we can evaluate. We are working with some great national firms to help us really understand what we've learned. And we have to have time to adapt. And any startup that's pushing a new product, you got to learn from your mistakes earlier.

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  50. We are having conversations with other tech gurus because we want to find a way to do this. I point people back to the 08 campaign and we learned the wrong lesson, I think, sometimes from Obama's campaign. He did not win because of technology. He did not win because of money. He won because he talked to people on the ground and organized them. He used technology as a tool to accomplish that. He used television as a tool to communicate that. He used media as a means and as a channel for reaching people, but he never forgot that the fundamental was talking to folks. And so to your point, I believe my campaign will be able to prove it out because we're going to elect a black woman as a governor in the United States.

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