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  1. Here's the thing so we are already using organizer, which is a fantastic tool for actually talking to voters and getting the average volunteer comfortable with field. Because one of your challenges is how do you talk to that many people quickly enough? Use volunteers, but if they have to have 15,000 pieces of paper and walk around with a clipboard. Not going to do it more than twice. Unless they're just hardcore. Organizer is a tool that helps make it faster. We're using hustle. It's a text messaging app that's helping us connect millennials in particular, but writ large communities together using text.

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  2. And so my campaign will be a pure testing ground, a pure experiment for the messages that work for the turnout models. But it doesn't mean that I have to change how I talk about issues. I sound the same today as I did when I first started in politics. The difference is that I don't plan to shift when I win the primary to win the general.

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  3. I am running my campaign beginning with a conversation, I'm spending money in ways that for most campaigns and if this were a startup, people would say I'm spending money on the wrong things I should be investing only in the tech and I'm investing in some other pieces of it. We're investing in talking to voters on the ground now. And that means that I'm not going to have the splashy disclosure reportant in 2018 because I'm going to spend a lot of money. But I believe fundamentally that we have seen what the other side looks like. We keep losing elections

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  4. It's not about going more left. It's about going deeper. And that's the difference. We keep pretending. That it's an AB conversation. What it really is one, A plus two, it's going deep and actually having conversations. But to use tech jargon, I am the A-B testing of the 2018 elect I am running my campaign

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  5. Just don't vote because that's a choice I'm not going to take time off of my two jobs to go and vote for someone who does not sound like they actually will represent me. And the way we try to persuade the other side is by essentially becoming milk-toast Democrats or Republican light. And so I think the opportunity is to invest early in field for communities of color and progressive whites because we have to think about the fact that there are a lot of low-income single white women. There are a lot of millennials who do not look like they should be in an Abercrombie and Fitch ad. They all deserve the kind of time and attention we're willing to give.

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  6. Misallocating their funds, and that's not to say that you don't go on television. You have to use television for what it's intended to be, which is a reinforcement tool. It is not a conversion tool. You only convert people on the doors. You only persuade them in conversation. And so Democrats have to believe, number one, that you should invest in field. Number two, that you should invest in field and communities of color because the reality is yes, most communities of color are democratic leaders.

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  7. Exactly. When we talk about persuasion in politics, we typically refer to persuasion of ideology. I'm going to convince you to believe what I believe. We have a different challenge with people of color in the Democratic Party. We have to persuade Democrats that their behavior should change, that it's worth voting. And that's where we fall down. We don't invest in persuading voters of color, particularly black voters, that the action of voting is actually meaningful. Instead, we spend most of our money and most of our time trying to convince people who've told us they do not agree with us fundamentally that, well, this time you do. And therefore, we leave votes on the table. In Georgia, that's more than a million votes, and we lose by 200,000.

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  8. I've heard you say that there are, you know, in politics we have something we call the base. Everybody's got their base. And then what you have at the next level is sort of the persuadables. And that everybody spends the majority of their time trying to persuade the persuadables and turning out their base. And I've heard you say that you think that people of color are considered for Democrats the base, but you think really the reason that Hillary Clinton lost was because they weren't the persuasion voters.

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  9. Not pur She lost it by two points against Trump. And the reality is the South has always been very good at voting one way locally and another way nationally, which is why you had Democratic governors long after we'd abandoned voting Democrats for president. That narrative and that capacity didn't change simply because Trump won the election Number two, the demography of that district is very different. It was one of the wealthiest districts in the state. It is the most educated district, I believe, in the nation. It is 75% white. That is not the composition of Georgia. But what John did very well was that John for the first time in a long time actually invested in turning out voters who never hear from candidates. And that's why John had presidential level turnout in a special election that would normally yield maybe 12% turnout.

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  10. I think there are two pieces. One is that Osof's race was not a democratic-leaning district. That was a district that Republicans had won by nearly 30 points a few months before.

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  11. Shouldn't give a government a victory. But the reality was you had college students who were risking possibly losing everything because their plan was to impose an SAT ACT requirement that would have stripped money away from thousands of students. Instead, I worked with him to create a two-tiered program. They got what they want. We got slightly less, but we still maintained 80 to 90 percent of the scholarship. We also saved pre-K because that was going to be slashed to half day and to only part of the week. If you've never had to watch a parent try to leave work and know that they could lose their job for going to get their kid, you don't understand why that is such a terrible idea.

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  12. My opponent in my primary in Georgia has taken me to task for working with Republicans to save a scholarship program that Democrats created. It's a fantastic program. It was on the verge of bankruptcy. Everyone agrees. She would have had me just say no because anything Republicans produced her, I can't quite articulate what she thinks should have happened.

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  13. Part of the suspicion comes from a recent history of Democrats proclaiming values but not living them and not even proclaiming them for the entirety of an election. They are very progressive until they win the primary and then suddenly you can't get them to take a picture with you. People who strongly believe in choice suddenly become wishy-washy on their language and don't want to be seen in a photograph with anyone from Planned Parenthood. And so part of what you see in the reaction on the left is a worry that any degree of verbal compromise simply portends your intention to wholly and completely compromise your values. And we've seen this on the Republican side as well. I think the reality and responsibility is for candidates like myself to proclaim our progressive values consistently, but to talk about them in the context of how you get things done. The best example I can give is that

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  14. But isn't it true, though, that you've got essentially national progressives who have drawn such a bright line against cooperating with Republicans, cooperating with President Trump, even where they agree with him? I mean, Diane Feinstein, a senator from California, got excoriated for simply wishing he becomes a good president, not even for a specific policy proposal. So how do you as a progressive reconcile sort of this what seems like a brighter and tougher stance by progressives against working with Republicans? I'm the toxic too.

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  15. The current president is discovering. Our national politics has to remember what it's there, and that is to improve the lives of others. And that sounds very Halcyon and nostalgic, but it's real. It's why we do this, or at least should be why.

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  16. Healthcare bill when you have the governor of Ohio standing shoulder to shoulder with the Democratic governor of California, that is not a normal thing to see in our politics today. Both opposing and willing to work together to bring their folks from both from each side of the aisle to oppose that bill was incredibly important. I think the inflection point we're facing in our country is that as the national narrative becomes more toxic, state leaders have an opportunity not only to lead, but to send a signal for what people should expect of their leaders. And we've gotten to this place where we are willing to expect little. And so I think one of the exciting things for me is that we can show what real leadership looks like. I don't want to be the governor of Democrats. I want to be the governor of Georgia. That means, though, that I begin with democratic philosophies, democratic values, but it also means that I have to be open to an accepting of the fact that compromise is a necessary part of political leadership. No one gets everything they want.

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  17. No, look, I think that some in each of those categories would count themselves as Trumpist. I think the challenge for the Republican Party is no one knows what that means. And so I will leave it to them to figure out their taxonomy. I would say for me and for the national conversation, governors become increasingly important the more impotent our congressional leadership becomes. The inability to pass legislation, the inability to The opportunity, though, is that this could create those coalitions and those intercooperative relationships that we haven't seen in a very long time. I point to the fight over Graham Cassidy. When you have the governor.

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  18. But it's also recognizing that when we talk about tech, there are variations on that theme. So Georgia has perfected fintech, financial technology. We are the payment solutions corridor. I actually am the co-owner of a fintech company. Called Now Account. We help move capital to small businesses using technology. But you also have agritech, I mean, Georgia's largest single industry is agriculture. There is a space for agritech and biotech. And so I think the opportunity for Georgia when we think about tax incentives and when we think about tech as a source of capital raising and wealth creation for our communities is to make sure that we integrate tech with what already exists and what works there. And what works there.

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  19. In the tech space, Georgia's opportunity is to make sure that we are actually growing the kind of workers to sustain a tech economy. That means that if you are incentivizing a company to come by destabilizing the educational system, you are not going to have people who stay for very long. But it also means that we have to think about economic incentives like the ability not only to attract a company, but to help retain it by making certain that you have access to capital and not just sometimes startup capital, sometimes it's that siege stage. And sometimes it's coming in as part of a B round. The state of Georgia has not done that as effectively as I think it could.

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  20. So, one incentive George has done extraordinarily well is the film credit. The film credit is not about having new movies made in Georgia by themselves. Georgia started its film credit around the time that Michigan, Florida, North Carolina, and Toronto were really starting to sunset some of theirs. New York had one that has reduced its investment. The point behind that incentive was that it wanted to bring enough put enough in the pipeline, have enough supply that you could actually grow and stabilize the supporting characters for films. So craft industries, construction, actually having filmmakers who could be there, creating studios. So you were growing an industry and an infrastructure for your economy that was going to have outside inputs in terms of the delivery, which is the films, but you were actually stabilizing and creating enough supply chain that you constantly had the ability to sustain those jobs.

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  21. And so one of the challenges, especially in the Deep South, and this is true in other parts of the state, but I can speak to Georgia. When we say tax incentives, what we usually mean are tax abatements. It means you're not investing in property taxes. You're not paying the company that comes doesn't pay property taxes. That means you're not investing in schools. You're not investing in infrastructure. You're not investing in safety That comes at a cost because you're usually bringing new people to the community who are going to use all of these services. And I think where the mayoral candidates who've pushed back against this stand and where I am is that you want incentive to actually incentivize growth but not cripple the underlying infrastructure of a community.

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  22. It is not a bad thing to try to attract business. It is not a problem to use tax incentives as a means to attract those businesses. But those tax incentives cannot cripple the very community they're intended to help.

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  23. Well, I think they're a combination of issues. One is that I am wary of tax incentives as a means of attracting business. Usually sports stadiums. Well, it's not just that, especially in the last 50 years, there's been this sort of race to sell your community to get, I mean, Foxconn in Wisconsin is an example.

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  24. When I'm elected, I say hopefully in 2018, there's no chance that I will have a majority in the House or the Senate. But my leadership has always required that I be able to work in cooperation with others, building coalitions, building capacity. And I think that's true for anyone who's running for office this time. We have to understand that the Georgia of 30 years ago does not exist demographically, economically, and in terms of just the composition of what the business climate can sustain and need, you're going to have to have everyone at the table because there just aren't enough of the old guard to keep it going.

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  25. The composition of the state and our politics are not reflected in our legislature, but they are often reflected in the battles we have about the big issues. So we recently, unfortunately, passed a gun bill that put guns on college campuses. That bill was roundly fought by people of all political stripes. The challenge is that you have to have a political leader who is comfortable continuing to push back both against her party and the other side. Governor Deal did that on some issues and he didn't on other issues. And so I think the political climate is ripe for a new type of leadership that I bring, which is someone willing to compromise because

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  26. Me exactly working with business Republicans on environmental issues. I have been able to negotiate and work with economic libertarians on environmental issues, not by framing them as environmental issues, but by framing them as property rights issues. So we've been able to push back on stream buffers, on some gas pipeline issues that were really fraught for the environment, but not by trying to convince them with the religious liberty folks We disagree to disagree. But although I will say that I was able to block a tax bill in 2012 working with the Southern Baptist because they would have eliminated some important deductions. But what I would say writ large is that

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  27. You have economic libertarians who see the Chamber of Commerce and the business class as the enemy. And then you have a religious libertarian group, which is not necessarily endemic to the South, but we perfect a lot of these things. And that group sometimes is pushing those conversations like the religious freedom restoration act, those issues. The problem for the Republican Party has been that they have had to try to navigate all three factions at the same time, which created opportunities for me as leader and for Democrats under my leadership to be very successful when the economic libertarians didn't like the fact that we needed to improve our transportation tax structure. It was Democrats that provided the votes to get it done. And as a result, we were actually able to invest in transit. We got the state to do transit dollars for the first time.

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  28. Sure. One of the challenges we have is that we have sort of three Republican parties in the legislature. You have them. They're all call Republicans, but they tend to factionalize in that you have a business conservative party that is the more traditional Republican.

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  29. Exactly. And the challenge for a lot of underemployed are that they are working poor. And in Georgia, that's exacerbated by the fact that, for example, you can't access Medicaid, that we have strict limits on your ability to take advantage of any part of the social safety net. Those challenges pull down our economic capacity because you have economic immobility. And in fact, Atlanta, unfortunately, is one of the top cities for economic immobility. You are unlikely to move to ever achieve more. And that lack of economic mobility, that lack of social mobility, if it is not truncated immediately, if we don't start working towards increasing access to mobility, Georgia runs the very real risk of being stuck where we are and losing that capacity that we've always had to be the leading state in the South.

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  30. So, unemployment, you don't have a job underemployment, you have too many of them. Typically, it means that you are working less than 40 hours. You're usually working for the minimum wage or just above it. You're subject to flex schedules, meaning that you have no control over when you go to work. You more than likely live in a daycare desert so you don't have child care for your children, or if there is childcare, it's either low quality or too expensive.

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  31. So right now, Metro Atlanta has gone from being five counties to 20 counties. I think right now, unless you're in Tennessee or Alabama, you're in Metro Atlanta for some people. And so Metro Atlanta has grown and it's grown dramatically. But there are also opportunities in what we would call second tier cities, Savannah, which has one of the fastest growing ports in the nation, Columbus, which was the home to Tsis and the fintech industry. You've got Albany and Macon and Augusta. So you have these different tiered cities that also are seeing growth. Augusta actually is the home of Fort Gordon. So we're one of the fastest growing cyber communities in the nation. All of these pieces can be leveraged together, but we have to be thoughtful about how we do so. Because at the same time that Georgia is seeing this burgeoning economy, we're also mired in deep poverty, where overall I think it's 18% of the population, but if it's African American, it's 24% if you're Latino. It's almost 25% of the community is in poverty. And so we have to navigate both the

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  32. Most people don't realize the city of Atlanta itself is about half a million people. When people talk about Atlanta, they mean metro Atlanta. Yeah, that's what it is. That's about half the state.

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  33. What this means in terms of economic capacity for Georgia and political capacity is that you're dealing with a very different demographic where if we use diversity as a strength, it can be, I believe, the engine that really powers Georgia for the next 30 years. Because not only does the racial demography bring a different pun intended complexion to our economy, it also brings new ideas and new experiences because you've got people moving into Georgia from other parts of the country, but you also have a growing class within the state that has ownership of what the state should look like.

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  34. That has meant in the last 20 years is that Georgia has become one of the fastest growing states in the nation between 2000 and 2010, 1.5 million people moved to Georgia. But the difference was this time with immigration, 80% of those people were people of color. And that has created a new opportunity in Georgia where you have economic capacity growing at an incredibly fast clip. At the same time that you have this extraordinary diversity that is very new to the Deep South because this is a diversity of African American, Latino, Asian Pacific Islander, and white.

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  35. So Georgia has always been sort of a tipping point state for the Deep South. Georgia was the state that when the rest of the South remained deeply mired in arguments about segregation, Georgia moved a little further. The issue of the economy when Birmingham doubled down on trains, it was Georgia that decided that airplanes seemed like the thing of the future. Georgia has always been home to more economic capacity than other southern states. And I think, and whether you're looking at technology or looking at agriculture or the service industry, Georgia has always been the tip of the spear.

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  36. Absolutely. It's the eighth largest state in the nation that if we figure out how to crack the code there, you have then an exportable set of solutions that we can take around the country. And particularly for me, it's a personal issue. I'm doing very well now, but I still have family members in Mississippi and in Georgia who struggle and who don't always know where the next solution is going to come from. Being the governor means the opportunity to be this intercessor between the federal government and local government to make certain that people are getting the services they need and that we do have an effective private sector and effective nonprofit sector and a responsive public sector that really delivers services.

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  37. I thought then I wanted to be mayor of Atlanta. And so my trajectory was really towards how do I become mayor. But the more I thought about that work, the more I realized the issues that matter to me most really had to have a statewide imprimatur. You needed a governor who thought about these issues. And so probably about a little more than a decade ago, I started thinking very specifically about how could I learn the skills necessary to help run the state of Georgia. Because I think if we can tackle the issue of poverty, the issue of Lack of human dignity, the concerns of those who are left out and left behind. If you can do that on the state level, especially in the Deep South, and particularly in Georgia, given how large a state it is.

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  38. But during that time, I also ended up working for Maynard Jackson, who was the mayor of Atlanta Working in the Office of Youth Services. And there I really understood on a very granular level how important it was to have Representation both in the legislative branch and the executive branch that cared about those issues.

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  39. Well, you know, the first time I ran for office and actively thought about it was in college because there was. It Spellman College. There was an inequity in the distribution of two and one ply toilet paper. Which to me was emblematic of a larger set of social dignity issues. Absolutely. So I ran for student government and eventually became the student government president.

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  40. Oh, God, no. I am deeply introverted. And my closest friends and my family know that This is the least likely job for me to have based on my basic personality. But they also know I'm very determined. I like systems, I like efficiency, and I found that if I couldn't make politicians do what I wanted, I needed to become one myself.

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  41. And I became fascinated by how you could make that system work. And then I became fascinated by the conversation of where the private sector fit in and the nonprofit sector. And so for me, politics is part of a triumvirate of learnings that I've tried to have. I've started small businesses. I've run nonprofit organizations. And for me, politics is one of those pieces that you have to understand. And government has to be done better if we want to serve people.

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  42. I think that poverty is immoral and economically inefficient. And I watched my parents try their best to mitigate it in Mississippi. They would take us to volunteer a lot. And I once asked, you know, shouldn't there be someone who could do this besides the six kids and my two parents? Eight people seem like a lot of just not enough investment in trying to solve this problem. And my parents said that's called government. That government is supposed to put together the systems to help address these issues. And it wasn't working.

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  43. It is, so I was appointed by the city attorney and the mayor. And then went from that job ran for the state house in 2006, got elected, served in the house for four years, and then decided I should be the minority leader. So I ran for that in 2010, was elected by my colleagues, and did that until 2017, about a few months ago when I stepped down to run for governor.

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  44. Running around I was born in Wisconsin. I only remember being cold. We moved back to Mississippi, which is where my parents are from when I was three. So I actually grew up in Gulfport, Mississippi. My mom was a college librarian. My dad was a shipyard worker, but we still struggled like a lot of families. We were working class, working poor. My mom didn't like that, so she called us genteel poor. We had no money, but we watched P.S. And we read books. Finished high school in Georgia. My parents decided to become ministers at the age of 40, so I was a junior, we moved to Georgia. I graduated from high school there, went to Spelman College, went to UT Austin for graduate school, went to Yale for law school, had to get a real job, came back to Atlanta, became a tax attorney, and then began my trajectory of downward economic mobility

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