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  1. “You know, there hasn't been any, like, I don't imagine immediately after the elections, some people are going to jump in and say, I'm running for president. Some already have. That won't be me.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “I think that I'm not sure that everybody's already trying to slice and dice something a ways kind of pit us against them or sort of these mentalities. I'm not sure that I buy any of that. Like I've been able to do progressive things in Montana, but I've been able to get things done. And I've been able to bridge some of the divides that we're seeing in other parts of Montenegro.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “Not necessarily meaning that Then we talked about a little bit outside. I fundamentally believe wherever you live, most people want the same things. They want your safe community, a roof over your head, a decent job, clean air and clean water. The values, those are values that Democrats have traditionally been fighting for. Each step of the way. So the focus of Not even showing up or having a presence in areas says a lot to people. The focus on the way that we speak and say, Bill Clinton said, I feel your pain, right? That not everybody's doing better along the way. And to have meaningful solutions for these issues.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “I think that at its core is that if there's a whole lot of people both in our country Geographically, demographically and others that say that the Democratic Party Isn't the party that cares about whether I have a decent job or good schools or roof over my head, then we're in a lot of trouble.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “I think I have something to offer the conversation for sure. I mean, I think that we as a party need to make sure that We can be competitive in places from Michigan to Wisconsin to Ohio to Pennsylvania, in addition to being competitive on the coast.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “Come from Place the West, which I think that has something to add to the conversation. But I don't, you know, at the end of the day, First, I got to figure out do I have something to offer?”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “Apprentice anytime soon, are you? I don't think we'll count on that, dude. I also think that. I'm hoping that there'll be a lot of people looking at it in 2020 A governor governors actually have to govern, have to get things done. You know, we've seen... Senator Obama was in his first term for that. I think last Senator get elected. JFK. JFK then.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “Yeah I mean, first of all, I got to believe that it's not just about money. I mean, if that was the case, even on the Republican side, Trump wouldn't have become president. And I have to”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “I'm Yeah, I think that I have I think I'm the only Democrat in the country to get reelected in a state where Trump won. I've been able to get progressive things done and show that government can function. So I think that I have something to offer to the conversation. And as what we're stipulating, in some ways, and I've been out campaigning to try to get more governors and a few other congressional folks, but I've also been listening, not just in Iowa, but also places like Arkansas in Ohio for rich cordery yesterday. For me, at least that's as far as it goes. I don't know what I'll do, but I think I have the one thing that I don't want to do is wake up the day after the next election and say we're in the exact same position. So if I have something to offer that conversation, then it's worth...”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Well, I think that center testers haven't even given him a meeting with Judge Kavanaugh yet. And I think Senator Tester is the kind of guy that, I mean, he will listen carefully and make a decision. What I've seen in the past with Senator Tester is that he tries to figure out what's actually going to be best for Country and from Montana.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Yeah, I think it could well. And I also think some. Republican senators are saying, well, wait a minute, we owe our constituents a lot better than what this process has been. So I do hope that that's the case. And so you”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Think it's likely to gal I would hope so I mean, I would certainly hope that More and more women, but not just women too. Let me ask you to be sick. Of course, absolutely.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “Yeah. Never suggest like I'm a pundit and no from that perspective, but I think that the impact on... The country when we're doing not only lifetime appointment, but Woman or women that have come up Sacrifice themselves, and we're not in doing an investigation. Maybe it does make us more polarized. That's unfortunate. I think this will be one where people look back and say we probably should have.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Do an investigation, figure it out, right? I mean. As opposed to talking over one another or saying, I've been victimized, just do an investigation. That's what we've done in the past.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “Yeah, I mean, first from my perspective, there shouldn't be a vote right now. I mean, when a woman comes out with a credible claim and a claim that she was sexually assaulted, that should be investigated. So I think it will be polarizing if folks don't take capaz on it. If the Republicans don't say that. Listen, let's actually do an investigation as we should. Talking about a lifetime appointment here. So, I would always love to see ways where we're bringing down the polarization. But beyond partisanship, I mean, if I am a Democrat or a Republican. Out in any place other than Washington, D.C. Like to think that folks would say, you know what? This is a very important vote. We should at least get all the facts”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “But if we're not, if Democrats aren't even talking to people in the rural areas, if we're not giving them a reason to vote for us, if we're not turning around and saying, you know what, I recognize you're not climbing the economic ladder. Here are things that can be done. I mean, I think it goes back more than cultural divides. It is sort of the economic divides right now. If someone in rural Ohio doesn't think that the Democrats care about them, Speaking to them Then they're going to go somewhere else.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “Yeah, but so I think in part to get to. A lot of folks Aren't feeling like this economy's working for them, right? When I say today only about half a 30-year-olds are doing better than their parents were at age 30. When I was growing up, it was 90% of 30-year-olds were doing better. So the economy's broken. And they look the political system and they don't see it working. So I think that Lot of voters, and that's just not in Montana, said, well, DC's not working. We need somebody that says, I will fight for you. And they believe that they would fight for them.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “Well, okay, to step back President Obama lost Montana in 2008 by two points He had also showed up there, and he was present there quite a bit and had a real presence. I think”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “So there's got to be ways that we can, if we start looking at the public health issue more than just as an issue completely divides the country, I think we can make progress.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “No, you know, I had So, and we're recording this, I guess three or four days before. One year anniversary of the Vegas shooting. I went to, I was asked to speak at the March for Our Lives in Helena, Montana, and I'm like, no, I don't want to. Instead, I went with my two daughters and I listened and I listened to these kids. I can't believe my son. One of his, I think it's by the end of the first week. He's telling me about the lockdown drills and he's already learned the safest places in the school. I had challenges growing up. It wasn't challenges like this. So I think we've hit a tipping point where we've got to be doing more. And we can do more in ways that Most firearm owners that I know, all firearm owners that I know. Myself included. We don't want these guns in the wrong hands. We don't want them to use for the wrong purposes.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “Well, I mean, I was Attorney General when the Heller decision came up or I brought the state into it and the Second Amendment as an individual right. And... I have time and time again tried to say where common sense gun measures, I've signed some things, I've vetoed a bunch of things as well. I think that there's more that we need to be doing, though.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “But when the hospital administrator said was the first to speak and said, yeah, 40% of the people that walk through these stores don't have health care. And a county commissioner said, we lose his hospital. We lose this community. I mean, by listening and letting them speak, we've been able to get things done.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “As legislators and as governor, let's act like our kids are watching and learning from our words and deeds because they do. So I've tried to elevate the discussion overall in that way. I've said to people, I will meet you as legislators. I'll meet you at least part way if we can actually focus on what's good. Now, I still fundamentally believe in this polarized time that most people's lives are too busy to worry about politics. And in campaigning, I go to places that it's not just where there's a lot of Democrats in sight. I show up, I listen. I do the same in governing for sure. We got Medicaid expansion through, in part I'll never forget, went to a town called Shoto, Montana. 1,700 people, and everybody in town knew I was going to be there because Americans for prosperity had mailed that. pictures of me and Barack Obama.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “Yeah. I mean, I guess I try not to begin with a premise that, well, it's a very polarized time People still expect government to work. I mean, when we mentioned how young my kids were. My first day of the state, I talked about the different noises of laughter that would be emanating from the governor's house. And let's actually...”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “Have to disclose whether they're donated. We sued the administration, the current administration, the IRS, because they're now getting rid of the requirements of even getting the names of 501c4 donors to the Department of Treasury. Meaning that the courts, unfortunately, is conflated corporations with individuals and money with speech. May not be able to change that until we have either constitutional amendment or a different court, but we can make differences in adding sunshine and transparencies just but one area.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  26. “Now, I think that's right, and I think it's unfortunate. But then at least begin with the premise, and Citizens United said, well, we can do all this because with the advent of the Internet and everything, at least there's complete transparency, meaning that people will know who's trying to influence elections. What we've seen since Citizens United, though, is the rise of not just super pacts and individuals, but dark money groups where we don't know who's right in the check. And I think that's an area where Like in the state, not only did we pass that law, did an executive order saying if someone's going to contract with the state of Montana, Um...”

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  27. “Think And what we're seeing with all this outside money is, and the vast majority of it's been on negative ads as well, is that I think it adds the polarization. It also adds to the disenfranchisement of folks saying, my participation doesn't even matter. This is all about money. And that's, I mean, I think it's a real threat to this experiment called Representative Democracy that's so important.”

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  28. “Hoping that these college students understand that there's one day every two years that we're all equal, and that's election day, and our vote is our voice. And I've seen elections close enough, as I'm sure you have, that every vote. And I think in part all the money coming in”

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  29. “I mean, it is disastrous from my perspective. Now, at the state level, even with a legislature that's two-thirds Republican got past a bill that said, You're a dark money group. So if you're a group that doesn't report your contributors, if you're going to spend in our elections in the last 90 days, you have to disclose those donors. So even when I was up in 2016, the last mailing against me by the Koch brothers, Americans for Prosperity was ninety one days out. So it can be done at least to add transparency and at the state level. But I think what we're seeing more and more You know, being out on your campus today.”

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  30. “Yep. So we lost that. And then Montana, meaning that Citizens United Station came down. And I was sued on the Krupper Acts Act of 1912. Every other state said, game over, we actually build a factual record. Citizens United had no factual record. And we had Republican testimony even on the corrupting influence of even the threat of independent expenditures. We wanted our state Supreme Court level. It was the first case after Citizens United to go all the way up to the U.S. Supreme Court. And on a 5-4 decision, hundred years of Montana history was summarily disposed with the dissent saying even our experience since Citizens United demonstrates that we need to revisit this issue.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  31. “I'm Attorney General. We wrote the amicus brief that the majority of states actually joined on. The friend of the court brief, including Republican states, saying that if you're going to screw with our campaign finance system, recognize the vast majority of elections actually happen at the state and local level, including our judges. And it doesn't take a copper king or a Koch brother to box. You can buy judges.”

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  32. “Yeah, and the history of Montana was a history of corporate control. We had these copper kings, they were called. I mean, Clark County, Nevada is named after William Clark, who was one of the copper kings. And they literally bought around the turn of the century all of the offices that we had. William Clark bought a U.S. Senate seat and was went out there and he was in a committee and he said there's so much money and politics now that people don't even vote. So Montanans finally took back their state, passed the Crupp Practices Act of 1912, and it said the corporations couldn't spend or contribute in our elections. As a result, elections in Montana are low contribution limits, and elections were about talking to people. It wasn't how much money raised, it's how many doors you knock. Citizens United comes up.”

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  33. “They don't want to see our daughters at volleyball practice. Sons playing football, and it's like, I'm the only one home. Well, it's a good excuse.”

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  34. “I had a rule when I became Attorney General that as long as I was in town, I'd go home at 6 o'clock, we'd have dinners as a family, I'd stay there until my kids were asleep, and then if I had to go back to work or do things, certainly, and that's as long as I was in town. I still have that same rule, but usually I get home at six o'clock.”

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  35. “Yeah, you know, it's, and it had been 40 years in Montana since kids, the age Of the kids that my wife Lise and I have were part living in the governor's residence. So it certainly shaped how I approached many things. On the one hand, each of my children got to have dinner at the White House and meet President and Mrs. Obama. And my oldest daughter, Caroline, went to the inauguration and rode a horse down Constitution Avenue. So have had incredible experiences. But it's not without a share of challenge as well because Living in the bubble of being the governor's kid.”

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  36. “I have a 16-year-old daughter named Caroline, a 14-year-old daughter named Alex or Alexandria, then a son who turns 12 on October 2nd, named Cameron.”

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  37. “For Governor Yewe it to us. No, I wasn't supposed to win for Attorney General. I don't know to anybody to run for something else. And I made a lot of lists saying, you know, the pros and cons of giving up a job that I love. And I think it could have got re-elected for one that I might not get elected to. And I don't know if I'd love. And ultimately I kind of reached the conclusion that Montana was a gift for me growing up and it truly was from the schools to the outdoors. And now as a father with kids. Do I want to keep it a gift for them? And there were more and more sort of the efforts to both privatizing schools and the... Anti-government forces were getting greater and greater that I thought, okay, maybe I need to do this.”

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  38. “Not at all. Not at all. I mean, I run for office to become. Attorney General not necessarily to ever run for governor and had had, in addition like that work, we did some great work as Attorney General. Corporate money and politics and was so excited about that job. And it was interesting because, well, then my predecessor was termed out. I had a lot of people saying, Oh, you have to run.”

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  39. “We were, we were, and was part of the multi-state efforts on the mortgage. And then once we reached a settlement figuring out how to try to, and the flood was in Montana, just like everywhere else, how to get people to be able to stay in their homes and talk about moments of crises that you saw all over the country and places like Montana were equally impacted.”

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  40. “You'd have essentially pill seekers going from doctor to doctor to doctor. Then there was a retree that showed where, you know, if someone was just pill seeking as opposed to legitimately in need, then we could shut that down. We did a lot of prescription drug takebacks. I'll never forget one of the first because people hang on to the drugs. There were break-ins into houses just to get at your medicine cabinet. In 1952 glass pill bottle, somebody turned in and said, I didn't know what else to do with it. So we worked on law enforcement education, getting rid of supply, and working on treatment issues as well.”

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  41. “Yeah, and it's a public health issue, but we approached it then. I mean, it's interesting because if you look at our highest fatality rates for prescription drug abuse, we're probably 2009 or 2010, and we've actually decreased it where all the other states. Yeah, I think we took a multifaceted approach Of all, we educated people saying that prescription drugs, well, they have a very important role. They can also kill people. So the education piece that just comes from a doctor, it's not safe. We tried to remove the supply. You also said,”

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  42. “Yeah. Well, it was interesting because having worked in the AG's office eight years prior, like I knew the division of criminal investigation folks. I knew the drug cops and others. And more and more of them, when I was thinking about running, were saying, Issues aren't just math anymore, it's now prescription drugs. And then when we looked at it, the amount of deaths occurring because of prescription drugs and because of fentanyl was overwhelming everything else we had. So I started running on, that was part of my campaign to say we have to address what was I called the invisible epidemic. And it was amazing wherever I went. Then somebody would come up with a personal story of the discount.”

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  43. “I think that's true. I think also, though, Democrats sometimes make this mistake that everybody's got to go to college. And there are, like, we've pushed, well, I've been governor a lot on work-based learning apprenticeships, making our two-year colleges not even about associate's degree, but about a professionally recognized certificate, realizing that there are a thousand different apprentice jobs. It's not just welding, though welding's so important, and figuring out how we can partner to actually get people the skills that they need. And that doesn't necessarily mean all the time a degree.”

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  44. “Just inflating costs of college. We've got to figure out ways to make it more affordable and accessible. And that, I mean, the transition plan may be well for, and some states are looking at this. Putting in $2 for our two year institutions last dollar in, meaning that after Pell Grants and everything else that the state would cover that. The overall goal of saying that college has got to be accessible and affordable for everybody that so chooses.”

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  45. “There's a lot more that we could be doing in as much as, yeah, we're about to the point, like in the early 70s, only a third of... Of the workforce needed something past high school. By 2020, it's two thirds. Not everybody's going to go to college, first of all. Right. and recognizing the professionally recognized certificates and apprenticeship programs. And there are ways to move this along where we ought to do so. I think that making it affordable is essential. Making it free. I think we'd have to figure out both the dollar, you know, the way to fund this, and also that there was a part of me having to work through college, pay part of the bill that made it so it is. I so appreciated what I was getting along the way. Now What's been changing is the increasing, increasing.”

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  46. “Since the recession until today, if we're in Arizona right now, state funding for higher education has decreased 50% on average it's decreased in real terms, 17% across the country. My value has been I'm pleased that Montana has the fourth lowest Cost of college for tuition and fees and we're one of four or five states that's actually been increasing our investments. So figuring out how to make college affordable is important. Figuring out how a third of the workforce now is making, I think $12 an hour or less, 37 million people, and figuring out the ways to increase that because that brings us all up, I think, are essential.”

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  47. “You know, after loosen that first time, I don't know if it was. But I don't know that that was what I thought my path ought to be. But it was that ballot measure in part too. So at the time, minimum wage was $4.5 in Montana. And in our legislature, it died on a very close vote to increase it. And one of the legislative leaders said something like, now I don't have to lay off people with disabilities. Not recognizing that the vast majority of folks on minimum wage or single parent had a household struggling to keep things together. It's not college students. It's not others. So form this group called Raise Montana. And by mostly volunteer effort, we increase the minimum wage. And that's kind of what got me excited and engaged, saying that, you know, you can't impact this system and you can make a difference. So that was, I think, 2006. 2008 was coming up.”

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  48. “Was more than what the income structures were. And to this day, I'll never forget the day that we paid off our last student loan. And I think when we look at the opportunities for the next generation, just like the opportunities for me were limited in part, or at least defined in part by loans, that we got to be well aware of what we're doing with saddling kids with debt because even from that time I graduated law school in 94. I mean, the cost of a college education, the cost of all higher education has spiked a heck of a lot faster than the cost of living has.”

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  49. “This is real. I mean, I showed up at Columbia Law School with a credit card and append a sign. Student loan documents. When I got out of Columbia Law School, I could have gotten forbearance even though I was getting paid pretty well because still relative my monthly student debt payment wasn't”

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  50. “For once in your life. A heck of a lot more than I do right now. But also we'd had our first child. And during that time, also, my wife's father got ill. And we knew that that's where we wanted to go. So once the law school loans were all paid off, moved back home and started that pinnacle of the legal establishment for a little while called the Bullock Law Firm. So I went from like a 400 lawyer firm to being a sole practitioner.”

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