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  1. “So during that time, and I think I was enjoying my work. At the law firm and surrounded by good people, and I kind of saw that path along there.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. “It was litigation. It was so like there was a case, a six-week trial that started three days after 9-11 dealing with the construction of the Green Line, you know, the subway system as an example.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. “And practiced law there. So I got done running for office I lost. I still had about $100,000 in debt. I'm married. And so I decided to move to DC, and I worked at a law firm and just taught as an adjunct legal writing at GW Law School. So got all my law school loans paid off.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. “You can learn a lot from losing. Yeah, and I often, I think I've learned more from setbacks in life than. The successes. And certainly at the time, I wasn't sure that I learned anything other than I don't think I ever want to run for office again. You know, I mean, some people might run because I wanted to get their name out there, but I ran because I thought I could do a good job with it. But I think I learned a bit about both people and about campaigning that still stuck with me. I mean, Montana is 147,000 square miles state. And when I subsequently ran eight years later, That the way you win is actually to get out and engage with people. Engage with people, not just identified Democrats or to get out and to listen.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. “I got my ass kicked. I ran against the guy who's also, I'd say, a good friend now. He's the chief justice of the Montana Supreme Court. But yeah, I'm not sure that even my whole family voted for me.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. “I was so moved by the experience that I decided when. I was 32 or 33. Like, this is the job I want. So I ran for it and got your ass.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. “To then be able to take that case, and we won. I'm like, this Attorney General's job is a great. So that's what really kind of got me Thinking about that on that path.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. “Yeah, that's one case, so it was the Mountain States Legal Foundation, which was Conservative group had sued to get rid of our stream access laws. And Montana has the best access laws in the country, meaning that anybody can, as long as they stay within the watermarks, can access all the streams of our state. So, you know, you can't shut down people from using these. And to me, as somebody that also grew up outdoors and like this is one of the things that makes Montana unique. So I was in federal court, three years out of law school and saying, my name is Steve Bullock. I represent the people of Montana. The rivers and streams belong to all of us. Now it's Hetty enough. And to be able to say, I represent the people in Montana, which is pretty darn cool.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. “It was both Working in the Attorney General's office was such an amazing experience, like an eye-opening experience for me because whatever that vision was as a fourth grader, fifth grader that you could do good in law, you could impact people's lives. I fundamentally got to see that while working in the Attorney General's office. I did everything from some youth in Need a Care cases, you know, abuse and neglect cases to working on the legislative agenda to some constitutional issues. And the great thing about working as an AG is so much of being a lawyer is looking backwards. I mean, what happened in this incident, you know, in litigation? In the Attorney General's office, you can also look forward, how can you meaningfully impact people's lives?”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. “Yeah, the interesting thing when I was going to move home, if I went to a private firm, I wouldn't have even been able to pay my monthly law school loans. But if I went into public service, Columbia would cover my loans while I was in public service. So that's what I started briefly, I had to stop at the Chief Legal Counsel, the Secretary of State's office, but then went over and worked in the Attorney General's office.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. “Yeah, that hadn't lived with my father since fifth or sixth grade, probably never even spent a night at his home. He was always a part of my life, but not like, you know, he was a friend Wasn't always a father necessarily I knew that it was terminal and I could stay on my plan in New York, working at firms, paying off my loans, or move back home. And I chose to move back home and took care of him and did some things like that.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. “Yeah, yeah. Like Professor Brafalt and others, though, I kind of worked my way through college and borrowed my way through law school. I mean, I. Came out of law school with some thousand dollars of debt and had this great idea I was going to work, pay off those loans, then decide what I wanted to. I guess do and be when I grew up. While I was there, my father got stage four lung cancer, so decided that if I'm ever going to kind of make everything right there, it's probably time to move home. And that's how I ended up in the”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. “It worked out okay. Yeah, I ended up. Taking after that time. Pennsylvania. I was back in Montana for a little bit, but then went to Columbia.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. “Know, for a guy from Montana, and then had spent time in California. I actually did talk to some folks at Chicago, but it was just probably too intense. I just didn't think that subsequently lived in New York, but didn't think that that would be the place for me. But Philadelphia in the late 80s where I ended up working was blue-collar-friendly. You'd meet your neighbors, you could go out, there weren't concerns. So that's where I ended up. Two years. I work at sort of an investment firm.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. “So I decided to work for a couple years. First, I went to, I interviewed New York. That was way too much for me. I wanted to go east, get out of Southern California, ended up at a sort of an investment slash”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. “What were you doing? Yeah, you know, for some reason I decided in grade school that I wanted to be a lawyer. I don't think I knew any lawyers, but I had this vision that a lawyer could not only Do good and impact people's lives, but probably make a little bit better living than anything that I ever knew. So I decided from grade school I wanted to be a lawyer and was prepping. I took the LSAT, like all these practices. Test day. I mean, I failed the LSET miserably. I still have my bubble theory that I wrote it all one off, but I don't think I was qualified to watch Law and Order the way that I failed it. So all my plans in life, I'm going to go to college. I'm going to go to law school. Got put on hold.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. “It was great. It was actually, well, it was great because also at the time, and they've gone quite a ways, but CMC was viewed as very, actually like a lot of the political science faculty was out of the Reagan administration. My thesis reader, who's still a good friend, a guy named Jack Pittney, worked for the National Republican Committee. So I had to figure out what my values and perspective was and I had to defend it, but also in a way that was respectful and that so it really helped me along the way. And I'm over 30 years out of college, but still keep in touch with both professors and others from there. So it was a great experience for me.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. “It was an interdisciplinary major called Politics Philosophy and Economics. So, and the professors all work together. There was only about 12 of us in it. So it was a liberal arts major. And what we would do is, like you'd write a paper, you'd have one of the teachers. Critique your ideas and rip it apart just in front of the professor. And all three of the facets of it were sort of all interrelated. So when you're learning about philosophy, you're also learning about political philosophy and economic philosophy.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. “Found that place. And so I ended up applying to two schools, University of Montana and Claremont McKenna College. So that must have been a culture shock moving from Helena Montana to just outside of Los Angeles. In so many ways. I mean, I'll never forget showing up that first day and all of the swim pools were outside. That's not something. I think I've been in that point in my life probably been on a plane three or four times. And it was a culture shock inasmuch as meeting kids at a gone to prep schools and had every advantage in the world. It took me about probably six, seven months, maybe not even that long to recognize what incredible public education I received and what I was given to build off of in Montana could make me academically as good as anybody else. And what did you study? What was your interest in? So there was a...”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. “State Board of Public Education as a student representative at the same time that Reagan's nation at risk came out. So got involved in sort of the education side of that, but sort of real politics or in the political system not until a bit later. And you went to college in California? Yeah, I ended up, I was looking mostly at University of Montana. That's where all my friends were going. My mother did research and was trying to figure out where I would be good. So she found a small college outside of Los Angeles called Claremont McKay. Yeah, sure. And I went sight unseen. Why did she think that would be good for you? You know, I think maybe just, I did okay in high school, but I never took academics that seriously. I was more interested in the activities outside of school. So maybe just also to get me out to see more of the world.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  21. “And so how did this politics bug bite you? Was it as early as back then? Well, it's funny because I often say my first door-to-door experience was Pat Williams' first campaign in 1978, and his theme was door-to-door for Congress, Pat Williams for Congress. And Carol Williams, who ended up a force in her own right, she was a minority lead of our state senate, but Pat's wife made Griff and I peanut butter and jelly sandwiches. So that sort of got me on the road. That was all it took to get you to go door to door. Yeah, that got me door-to-door and engaged, but got a little bit engaged more in sort of both the student government and was on the”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  22. “There were just the economic struggles that any single parent head of household has and still has today. One of your friends growing up was Griff Williams, the son of Pat Williams the longtime congressman from Montana. You only have one.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  23. “Do you have brothers and sisters? I have one older brother. He's three years older than I. He and I paper route, so we delivered sort of both to the governor's house and all over the Capitol complex. And your folks were educators. Yeah. Yeah, my father had worked first as a distributor of education, a DECA teacher, and then worked at the Alternative School. My mother had an education degree. had taught kindergarten when they were still together, but had taken time off. And then when my parents divorced and she had to find herself back into the world of work. Was it difficult for you them splitting up? You know, it's... I think today it's almost Not that unique, but in the late 70s to be in a single parent household headed by a woman, like that wasn't my friends. So it was substantially different in that respect. It wasn't a...”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  24. “Yeah, their first trip was post college when they moved to Montana. Uh huh. And you grew up in Helena, as I mentioned, delivered newspapers to the governor's mansion. Yeah, so it's a little different in Montana than it is in some other states. You can't just walk up to the governor's mansion and drop a newspaper on the Well, you still pretty much can in Montana. And yeah, I grew up four blocks. You guys still have newspapers there? A lot of places don't. I still read my Helen Independent Record first thing every morning with a cup of coffee. But yeah, grew up about four blocks from where I raised my family now and raised in a single parent household.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  25. “Steve Bullock. Great to be with you. Sure, great to be with you, too, David. You're on the campus of the University of Chicago. Just spoke to a A mob of kids of young people. I shouldn't call them kids because they're not, of young people from the Institute of Politics around the Institute of Politics. So happy to have you there. Let me talk about you as a kid From Missoula, but really from Helena Montana, how long ago did your family come to Montana? How did they get there? So my parents met at college in Colorado at the time as Colorado State Teachers College. And my father's first job was in Missoula. So that took us. So they weren't Montanans? They were not, my mother was raised in Wyoming, principally, and my dad had kind of moved around quite a bit.”

    2018-10-01 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 273 — Gov. Steve Bullock · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source