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Steven Rinella

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“Nobody could be so if you allow it and I could be so audacious as to just ask people to go to the meateater.com, you'll find not only stuff from me and about books I've done, but from all of my great colleagues and our podcast network and daily stream of written material and other things. So yeah, please go there and check it out.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Start at home, man. Like, you're never going to understand if you can't just understand where you're sitting and how it fits. Get some awareness. You're like, you're in nature, man. You're in nature We're trained to not notice it.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's way cooler outside of being a part of your community and family that's way cooler than being part of a fan base or part of a social media network. Do that and then go down to South America.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Water comes out. Where did that water come from? Did it fall as snow, rain? Where was it collected? Is it from an aquifer? What feeds the aquifer? And then ask yourself when it goes down the drain, what is its path to where it hits the ocean and make a mental map of if you were to take a piss in your yard, make a mental map, it would flow into this ditch and that ditch flows into that stream and that stream flows into that river and that river flows into that estuary and that estuary drains into that part of the ocean and make a mental map and look at that map. These are some of the things you can do sitting at your desk. And I think that as you do these things and think about them, you'll start to realize that you're a participant in something and you'll start to realize that there are things that are extremely reliable, the solstices, like the solstice, the equinox. There's things that are so unbelievably reliable. And there's things that are so chaotic, like you're passing the coming and going of birds. As you do those things, you'll find yourself feeling a part of something.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Get that book and start a list of every bird that you see from your property, from your place where you live, from your balcony, or whatever it is, a list of everything you see and allow yourself to count things that you see way off. So if you're in an apartment in New York and you can see out over the Hudson and you catch a seagull, count that. And allow yourself to count every bird that you hear. And then do a couple other things. Acknowledge the solstices and the equinoxes on those days acknowledge what is happening that today the day is as long as the night. Or today is the longest day. The sun will shine for the longest time tonight. Or this will be the shortest day. The sun will shine the shortest amount today. And tomorrow the sun will start marching back in another direction. Ask yourself, when you turn on your faucet.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We associate ourselves belonging to a fan base, belonging to a social media community, belonging to a municipality, belonging to a political persuasion. But if you want to start thinking about yourself as belonging to nature, start a list of all of the first, define what your yard is. It could be the grounds on an apartment building where you live. It could be your yard, whatever it is. Start a list of every bird, get a good bird book, get the sibli's guide to birds of North America if you live in North America.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's interesting. Kids in nature, kids and nature, but you could also say kids in nature. And I've been thinking about this a fair bit because there's a risk of making, we're talking about these extreme forms of nature, right? The jungles of South America, Arctic, Alaska. We're talking about these extremes. And you can create this problem where people think that engagement with nature needs to be a radical version. I think that as I've pondered this a lot lately, I think that there's some things that I find myself trying to do with my kids that aren't for kids only. And I think you need to start trying to develop the mindset of what it is to be like native. I'm not trying to take away, I don't mean native in terms of that you'd be Native American, say, or Native Alaskan or Amerindian. I don't mean that. I mean, Native, like, of trying to belong to a place.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Pig like animal. Yep. It would add a passing glance. Havelina is a collared pecory. People in the southwest, like in Arizona, western Texas are familiar with Havelinas. Yeah, that's a collared pecary. Then there's a slightly bigger, more gregarious version called a white lip pecory. And he said that he was concerned that this shaman in a neighboring village had grown jealous of his village and had locked up all of their pecaries in a mountain. And they had their own shaman trying to develop the necessary skill set to release their pecaries from that mountain. And I'll point out that you can email this individual if you have a problem with what he's saying. So they are at a real crossroads.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's good stuff, man And you're also watching it. You're watching things change. A thing I come back to again and again about that is there's an individual I love quite a bit down there who he was explaining to me one time about the white-lipped pecaries that they haven't been seeing a lot of white-lipped pecaries. And there's a fear in his village that the shaman from a neighboring village has grown jealous of his village. So this neighboring shaman is mad at my friend's village because they're so prosperous.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No one knows about You'll get to a point where he is very sick of the jungle and he's explaining that birds don't sing. They scream in agony. It's this incredible cacophony sometimes of just noise and that they could sit there and dissect that. Know it's this book, it's this, it's this, it's this. There's that bird, does that bird, does that bird that was impressive? Hunting, being able to hunt with bows and arrows made entirely from native materials except for a piece of wire cut from a fence that was then hammered into the shape of a projectile point, finding a plant called aeroplant. the fletching onto the shaft making a glue from native materials with which to put the things together cutting a tree making a bowstring and then wading out and do a river and seeing a fish that I can't see and shooting it with an arrow It's good stuff”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Tracking, like detecting sign on the ground, footprints, broken blades of grass, bent things, just like animals passing through and knowing that they pass through, an awareness of bird sound in a place where it just feels like a cacophony. If you ever watched that movie about the making of Herzog's Fitz Geraldo movie, but you know.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Here where we live in terms of this continuity that there's still places there where indigenous peoples, even though there's technologies emerging and stuff happening all the time and people can have email addresses, where there's like a continuity of the same people, the same culture doing the same practices in the same place for hundreds of thousands of years A level of awareness and like fine-tuned thinking comes out of that, which is like stunning to witness. And then just the cool shit, like just how they cook and hunting practices, fishing practices. That's been things that have really impacted my worldview, episodes that doing them impact my worldview. And then also the delivery of the product, the thing that people go watch when they're sitting on their living room couch at night is, in my mind,”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When we've been able to go travel on rivers and hunt and fish with Amarindians in South America, particularly in Guyana, in Bolivia, hunting with people who are ancestral hunters and gatherers, who are on a landscape hunting and fishing on a landscape that from their view is that they've been hunting and fishing in perpetuity probably for thousands of years father, grandfather on down the line and the level of intimacy they have with the land and water where they have been raised and where they hunt and fish 200, 250 days a year to see that is a very eye-opening experience because it really invites you to imagine what was lost.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're not overly produced, which means that there's like an actual trip happening. There's an actual journey happening with a question mark around it, since it's not scripted. It's like, so there can be the actual journey, you know, the physical trip you go on. And then there's this product that comes out of it, this piece of work, this craft that comes out of it, which is the show. You could have a trip that isn't hugely impactful, but the thing you make from it, the piece of entertainment that you make from it is memorable. You love it. You know, you're like, man, like, I want to have that. If in the future tombstones have something playing on tombstones instead of just inscriptions, I would like, I would like my tombstone to play that episode over and over again, right? But it doesn't mean that the trip was great. I think the things I've done, the trips I've been on that were like phenomenal trips. And in my view, great episodes were the handful of times, a couple times.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're different. What we do is an overly produced, and so there's a huge amount of, a lot of it you just can't produce because you can't be like, the animal shows up now, you know?”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, Yeah, that's art. That's art that leans in the direction of art. And I think nonfiction leans in the direction of craft.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Those are the people that were like, if I could do that, I would be happy. Like, those are the magicians. Black magic shit, man.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Joan Dideon. I'm dating myself because these are the books that were cool when I was in graduate school. Joan Diddon, Ian Frasier, John McPhee, and David Foster Wallace.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You're like, my God, if I could do that, right? Pay attention to the things that make you feel like you want to die. It's so good and you're so jealous. Find that handful of writers that make you feel that way. Try to understand what they're doing and then don't try to mimic one of them, but create a way in which you're trying to mimic or you're trying to capture the thing that you envy about three or four different writers because they're too smart to be emulated. You can't copy them. They're geniuses. In trying to copy them, you will, if you're lucky and you're good, you will come up with something new because you will never succeed in copying them. That would be my advice to writers. That's what I did”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I'm not going to do the 10th grade one, but I'll do the college one grad school one. I just don't have the expertise to, it's hard for me to understand 10th graders, even though once upon a time was one. I understand college. I'm more aware of where I was just more cognizant by then. If I was going to just writers in general, like writing in general, if I was going to give advice to someone, I don't know if anyone else gives this advice this way. I would read everything you can get your hands on. I would pay a lot of attention to the things that you read that really speak to you that make you feel jealous that you wish you eroded.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that's what led me on to the path. And it's been like wild because going and I want to be a writer and kind of backed into doing television and backed into doing a podcast and now helping to run an outdoor media company. But yeah, man, maybe it boils down to that. And the trapping thing is I started, I've set my first trap with my brothers in 1984. And there had been these insanely high fur prices since 1978 through 1982. And people were making a bunch of money trapping muskrats and stuff. I came in at the tail end of that and fur prices just went down, down, down. But in the beginning of that, I thought that's what I would do for a living.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He, this is kind of interesting around this. I don't know if you're how much you pay attention to the education system today, but there's this thing where we're more and more into like grooming kids for this fear that we're more and more into grooming kids for standardized testing. And like, I guess at that time, Mr. Heaton didn't really give it, he didn't give a shit about whether you're doing the assignments. I mean, if you were a Slacker or weren't trying, he wanted you to do the assignments, you know. But this guy gave a lot of room if he saw something you liked. He just gave you a lot of room to like focus in and explore. This sounds like a lot for 10th grade English. You go there for an hour a day and half the time you're not paying attention. But in that time, in a couple classes I took with him after, in that time, he took the time to develop things in kids. And maybe took the time to develop things in kids who otherwise didn't have a lot of prospects.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Small stuff here, there. Oh, I did all that small work after that. You know, it took a long time. I got encouragement, you know, it's so hard, like, pick out like what exact moment turned it, but absolutely, this goes out to all the school teachers out there. When I was in 10th grade, I had an English teacher named Bob Heaton, Mr. Heaton, took interest in me as a writer. You know, I later went to, I did a, you know, Master of Fine Arts, right? I studied with phenomenal writers. I've had many mentors. I've had people pull strings for me. I've had great advantages, right? Expert technical training, all this stuff. It's really hard to talk about how you got somewhere where you are. But I feel as though if Mr. Heaton, if this 10th grade English teacher hadn't spotted something there and made me aware of it, that I probably wouldn't have done what I did. I think that's pretty fair to say.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, no. Be like, well, screw getting up at five. Let's just sleep there. So I would go out with my brother Danny and, uh, We'd run a boat up in and we'd go in the tunnel. You're in the bowels of the dam because it's warm in there from the turbine. And there's these little hooks in there and you could drive your boat into the tunnel and tie off and just like sleep in a sleeping bag. And then at five in the morning when some old, you know, some old timer fishing fanatic shows up lo and behold, you know, you're laying there hung over in a sleeping bag ready to fish. And I wrote a piece about this. Oh, you know what? I was wrong earlier. That wasn't the one they called Get and Jiggy. I was mistaken about that. That was called Dawn Patrol. Getting jig was another article I wrote about something very similar in Seattle. I'm sorry. I screwed that up. Dawn Patrol. And I was still in graduate school and sold, I remember, for $4,000, and I couldn't imagine that amount of money.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My brothers had figured this out. You could leave the bar, it was competitive to get the right tunnel, the right turbines that seemed to hold a lot of fish for whatever reason I never understood. Certain turbines held a lot of fish. No matter how early you got up, you know, some dude had beat you, some old timer beat you to the spot. So my brothers hit on this idea just to leave the bar at one or two in the morning, whatever, and go out with a sleeping bag,”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it was just like kind of like the promised land, you know, or that's how we viewed it anyway. And I went up there to live for a semester at Lakespeare State University. My brother, Danny, he stayed up there and graduated from there. So I was in and out of there all the time. And there was this hydroelectric diversion canal in Lake Superior where they peel water off the St. Mary's River and run it through a channel and run it through a hydroelectric dam, right? So just to turn turbines to make electricity. This canal had a lot of aquatic insects that lived in it. And so fish would gather at the outwash of this dam. So where they released the water out after passing through the turbines, they released this water back into the St. Mary's River. And it would carry with it a lot of food. And you'd go up and like, we would actually tie our boats up to the dam. And you're just fishing for whitefish, Great Lakes Whitefish. You're fishing for whitefish in the outwash of the dam. And we would some...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You don't get to pick your own title. They called my article Getting Jiggy. I'm still mad about it 20 years later. I love dearly. I love dearly and I'm still friends with the person who oversaw that process. I've never told her about my anger. It was about so for a while for a semester when I was young, I was young in Michigan. And everyone, if you hunted and fished where you needed to go live was what we call the UP. That was like the cool spot. And so some of my closest friends, my brothers, they went up to the UP to go to college. UP.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They knew that something was amiss and they knew that things were changing because that's why Boone had to constantly move. Pennsylvania to North Carolina. He constantly marched west. By the time he died, it's rumored that he had made it all the way up into the Rockies following the Missouri River up on a hunting trip. He always had to move west because they killed everything and it forced him to need to move. He was aware of this. But I don't know that they really were like villains. I don't know that they really were acting with malicious intent. But my God, were they destructive and also just cool.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And a year goes by, and none came, and they waited, and two years goes by, and none came. And eventually they kind of got like, huh, and set up various businesses and ranching operations and gradually occurred to them that like, oh, shit, we got them all. Accidentally, right? It's like, so when you look at these people getting back to this boon thing, which is the question, when you look at these people that were engaged in this stuff, I don't think they...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Herds. And some people say that by the time the Northern Pacific Railroad made it into, had crossed the western Dakotas, made it into eastern Montana. There was maybe a couple million left in the last wild herd. And they shot that herd out in the winter at 81-82, 1881, 1882, gone, right? A couple years later, this guy Hornaday, William T. Hornaday goes out there to collect specimens for the Smithsonian. Like the assumption is they'll just be gone. They'll be exterminated extinct. And he wants to collect some hides and bones and stuff so that man in the future will be able to behold what these things looked like before they were driven to extinction. And he comments when he gets out to Miles City, he comments how the people that live around Mile City, the ranchers, the merchants, were people that had been involved in that last big slaughter. And then they were just hanging around waiting for the next herd to come through. Everybody knew there must be a bunch more up north or somewhere. And they waited.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, I knew that world real well back when I was working on that book. But there's a great story about what the damage that hunters do without knowing they've done it is, you know, so I'm going to just throw some wild round numbers out. Like at the end of the Civil War, it's estimated there were maybe about 15 million buffalo bison on the Great Plains, right? And we were hunting them for their tongues, meat, but mostly we were hunting them for their hides. There was a strong market for leather and hides. And we had a lot of market hunters chasing after them. So the Civil War ends. People say there's maybe about 15 million. We really turn our attention west. We start cutting railroads. We open up avenues of trade, meaning you could kill Buffalo and stick the hides on rail cars and send them to market. We were feeding an industrial revolution. And so there's a lot of money to be made shooting hides. And they kind of killed off the ones in the south from the Texas Plains, Kansas, right? And then they started working on the northern.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We now sit around, people are like the last bear, he killed the last bear in Indiana or whatever, you know. It's like a thing he used to kind of celebrate it. I mean, they were just rapacious, but they had no comprehensive, I don't think they had any comprehension of what they were doing. There's a story I like to tell a lot about with Bison. There's a story I like to tell a lot about the hide hunters that...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Listen, they wiped them. We talked about extirpation earlier. They were wiping out stuff without even knowing they'd wiped it out. There used to be bison in Nashville. There's a guy that saw a thousand bison at a mineral lick near Nashville one time. People came into New Orleans and saw a bison. They were on the beach. It seems as though people ran into them near Washington, D.C. These guys shot stuff. They shot stuff so fast and so thoroughly that the ship was gone and they didn't know it was gone.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Both influence by opening up those places, it would have happened, anyways. Someone else would have done it by opening up settlement, opening up, clearing the road for the displacement of indigenous people, clearing the road for people who would destroy the habitat, but also just the mechanical physical removal of all that wildlife. He one time processed, I think it's right around us, I think this is correct. I think one time he processed 109 Black Bears in a year.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Gone from his wife and family for two years hunting and lost all the hides he built up twice by having them confiscated by Native Americans who resented his trespassing. He liked it. He could have found a hundred other ways to make a living. That was what he was. He was a woodsman. But he was one of these guys in our own history who was instrumental in wiping wildlife off the face of America. And it's this part of this conundrum we're in where we look and I'm like, that I celebrate that guy, right? His skill set. You can't begin to comprehend his skill set. All the shit they did they did without flashlights. It's like you can't begin to comprehend the skill set and admire. And like if I could go back in time, my number one pick would be to go through the Cumberland Gap with Daniel Boone the first time he went through the Cumberland Gap and cross down.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But as a continuation of a sort of discipline, as a continuation of hunting in America, he's this really pinnacle moment where you have this person that loved wilderness, loved the outdoors, risked his neck day to day to go to the wildest places and celebrate them. And he liked those places. He wanted to be there. Boone would sometimes go on a hunt that would last two years.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Care about that stuff at all, either. You just went where you wanted to go. And we now do this, we describe this as a sort of celebration of freedom, but it'd be if you took that attitude today, you would be called an interloper and a poacher, and you'd wind up in jail. But he was pursuing his trade. He hunted deer for leather. Not so much meat. They hunted deer for leather, leather workwear. It was sold and tanned and they made like the equivalent of making Carharts today. You did that for a lot of the year. And then he hunted bears for the oil and meat markets. He would go out, kill bears, smoke the meat, render the fat, sell the smoked meat, bear bacon, and sell the bear oil. And that's how this guy made his living. The book does a great telling of all this stuff. But a thing that I love about Boone, and I've come to respect about Boone, is he exemplifies this part of my history as a hunter. When I say my history, I don't mean the things that happened in my life.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Was heavily involved in destroying what it was that he loved. He made his money in a variety of ways and he was a horrible, made a lot of business mistakes, a lot of land mistakes and different investments and stuff. But like for the most of his life, he was a commercial hunter and he was a trespasser. So he was hunting places one that had Native Americans that claimed it and lived on it. And they fought amongst themselves over ownership of these hunting grounds. But there was that. which meant, you know, next to nothing to him. And then there was the fact that he was trespassing on land that he wasn't supposed to come on from his own government in the time of the colonies. We were always striking these deals where we would assure the tribes like, oh, no, no, no, this is about it. We're not going to go anymore west. We promise our settlers won't go over that line. And the rest of that's yours. We'll take this.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, I've had a lifelong fascination with Boone and any little kid that grows up loving to hunt and trap and fish and stuff, like you're aware of Boone, right? You're aware of this pioneer boon and at various times in history he was remembered as an Indian fighter, right? Even though he never, he didn't really have a big appetite for that. And if you look at what he did, he actually went out of his way, typically went out of his way to avoid violence. But an Indian fighter, a pioneer, an explorer, hunter, trapper, and at various times in my life I've been in love with different aspects of what he did. But and he often in old books, you know, he was kind of presented as this swashbuckling, you know, Davy Crockett figure, right? Whistling through the woods, just being a hero. But there's a lot of complexity there around this person and sort of this idea that he...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, impacts ranging like at 50 pounds a backpack is substantial. It decreases your mobility. At 90 and 100 pounds, a backpack is, you're like, wow, this is sort of a, you need to step carefully. Like you're like, you could hurt yourself carrying this weight. Like it's not good for you to carry this weight.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, you'd have a total of over a couple hundred pounds, potentially. That might be a bit much. But yeah, with the bones in there, you're moving a couple hundred pounds for sure. Plus. Right.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Counting doing a survey on that Tussock of the vegetation on that Tussock and the thousands of blades of sedges and forbs and right and just trying to comprehend like what's going on in this Tussock all these plant species right incredibly dense and then having this feeling of like doing that and then looking up in any direction you can look as far as the eye can see is just more and more and more of those tussocks, right? It's just like an incomprehensible landscape. And that book does a wonderful job of spelling that out. And it does a wonderful job of like challenging some things, of challenging some things and challenging some assumptions.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And then you'd be like, you got to go across there for a few miles, and then you might figure out some way to walk on those basketballs. I don't know. Or you might find some way to get your feet wedged down between those basketballs. But either way, like I invite you to do this little journey. But in Arctic Dreams, one of the best parts Arctic Dreams is talking about a botanist who spends their day face down on a tussock.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and you can't decide if you're going to try walking between the Tussocks. Or on the tossics. And the tossiks are might be like 12 inches, 18 inches tall, and they flop around. I always liken it too. If you filled a gym. Full of six inches of water and then took basketballs and somehow like tethered them to the floor. So that all the basketballs are touching.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I really don't think that that is of issue to them. But people tend to be much more comfortable with that. And he gets into it. And Article Dreams also just someone trying to comprehend an incomprehensible landscape. Tim, I don't know if you remember being out there on the Arctic there. Do you remember the Tussocks?”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's just very uneasy with hunting. He's uneasy with hunting. He spends a lot of time with indigenous hunters in the Arctic. So he spends a lot of time with Eskimo, Inuit hunters. And he is at peace. He's relatively at peace with that, though he recognizes the violence, but he's at peace with that indigenous approach to hunting. You would look at that. And I find that's often quite true. People who would be like, they don't want violence toward animals, right? But they're very accepting if it's done by an indigenous person as though the animal somehow feels that pain differently. You can't really ignore that. If you're a walrus getting shot in the head on an ice flow, I don't know that you care who's pulling the trigger.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's just so bizarre. It's just candy. It's history candy. And he's such a great, he's just great. I view it like a Western literature masterpiece. Arctic dreams is a work in natural history. Arctic dreams is a book about the Arctic. One of the most profound parts about it for me is that the author, Barry Lopez, is very uneasy with hunting. I would venture to say that Barry Lopez would probably not like me too much.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What and what was going on, it's just the question marks that loom over that stuff are unbelievable. It's a great telling. It's a great piece about just like human memory. But also a phenomenal history of the American West and a phenomenal history of the Indian Wars. To say like what led up to the battle a little bit horn, you can approach that in a hundred ways, man. You can take a 500-year approach, right? You can take a decade approach. You can take a week-long approach and he kind of manages to sort of like cover off on all those ways to lead up to how in the world did a couple hundred US soldiers get wiped out, killed off by planes Indians armed with antiquated firearms and bows and arrows in to quote one of the Sioux participants in the battle named Gaul in the amount of time that it took. Takes a hungry man to eat his dinner.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's just incredible the brutality and just weirdness of that campaign, the culmination of Custer's involvement in that campaign. One of the things I love most about it, besides just like phenomenal reporting, is the openness with which the author approaches how different people remember things. Reading it, you get a sense of how there are at any given time, you know, and this is just so applicable today, there are a hundred truths. I don't mean 100 like 100. There are as many truths as there are people about what went on during something. And his exploration of people's accounts, of what happened that day and the days surrounding it when Custer died, and who did what and who was where and who thought.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Son of the Morning Star is about the events leading up to and including the battle at Little Bighorn where Custer's Last Stand. It's a great story. I mean, it's just like a story that just makes its own gravy.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT