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Steven Rinella

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“Season Yeah, those are all so available in our broadcast by Sportsman Channel, like outdoor channel and sportsman channel. But then you can also find them by going to themeater.com. They're not available on Netflix. We're going to be doing some things soon around distribution with some of our older material, but that's where you can find them right now.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You can find all the older episodes if you go to themeater.com and you'll go there and you'll find your avenue to all the older episodes.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, but it's like, for me, it's just so minor. Some number of trips a year. But the people I know, like, especially people in the fish and wildlife who do fish and wildlife work up there, I do worry, man. I do worry. Like my brother spends a lot of time in those things and I worry about that. But for me, if you're at least open to thinking statistically, personally, I have no reason to be concerned”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's like how you do it. I remember, I think it was Ted Stevens in Alaska. I think it was him that had talked about an occupational hazard of politics in that state was small aircraft and then died in one. But you can look at like hours, you know, like crashes per hour or whatever. So someone like me, no, I don't have any real reason to worry about it. I have a brother who's an ecologist in Alaska. He spends a lot of time in single engine aircraft, a lot of time in fixed wing and helicopters. And yeah, man, you get to a point where all those people that do that, they all know people, right? They all know people that that's happened to. Up to the point now where like, you know, I've been in planes that I later knew crashed.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Predators. The thing about the aircraft is there's a sort of statistical bit of it, right? Like you can look, you go to a place like Alaska where it's like it's a primary mode of transportation. Like in most places like having a private single engine plane is a hobbyist or like a flying enthusiast. Oftentimes flying for the sake of flying. You had a place like Alaska and Macha Canada. It's like that's like how you get around”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No one goes in the woods being like, dude, I hope I don't die of hypothermia. But I'm like, you know what? I'd be watching out for that.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I relish those interactions. And I am also aware that, you know, at some point in time, I'm part of a very high risk group around bears. And I don't think that something will happen to me, but I'm part of a high-risk group. And it's like, I'll feel lucky if I get out of life without having someone I'm very close to get mauled by a bear or killed in a small airplane crash. It's just like things I recognize is like those are actual. Those are actual real threats. People fixate on the wrong things when they imagine danger. But if you're spending a lot of time hunting in these areas,”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Oh, yeah, because they can have a real attitude about claiming stuff, man. You know, claiming a kill. And people get every year, it's kind of amazing to think, you know, every year in the lower 48, you know, multiple people get killed most every year from grizzly bears. This is going to sound callous, but that that could happen is like, I hold that risk is kind of cool. I like it. Like, I don't mind there being something big and scary like that out there. In fact, I drive a lot of emotional satisfaction from it. And this is beyond any sense that I don't like it when humans play God and decide to remove animals from the landscape. But just, I just, I like that. I feel more alive, better, more engaged, happier in places that have that full suite of large predators, omnivores, you know, out on the landscape.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Very likely that that animal had never had a direct experience with a human before. Sees aircraft, right? Whatever. Maybe smelled people somewhere, but probably never had direct experience. It just is known that it's cruising along and probably had miles away long before we knew it was there had smelled that animal and was coming to get it. And then it gets there and you present to it in a way that's kind of like authoritatively saying this is already mine. This thing is claimed. You have no right to be here. Like that's what you're trying to express to that animal. And sometimes it works and sometimes it doesn't work. I got a lot of friends. People lose stuff to those things all the time. But in that case, that little show of force, like I'm not afraid of you, this is my shit. It is not your shit worked and he ran off and then surprisingly didn't come back in the dark and try again.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At the time, one or two caribou on the ground. And there's no trees there. It's a barreness environment. And the trees that are there are shrubby and doesn't do any good, meaning you can't hang it up in a tree to keep it safe. So if you have a cache of meat that you're trying to protect, the best thing is to put it where you can keep an eye on it, like close to camp. If you move it away a mile, it's just going to get consumed and you won't even know you won't be able to protect it. You won't even know that it happened. If you put it right in your camp, you're inviting stuff to come right in your camp. So you just kind of put it off where you can keep an eye on it. 75 yards away, 100 yards away, depending on what's going on. And this bear comes along to claim that caribou. He's probably done that a ton of times. He comes in and probably has in his life countless times fought off other bears to claim a dead caribou, fought off wolves to claim their caribou. In that place too, it's very...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Big hit, like a big protein hit. And so they cover ground and they have an amazing nose on them. I one time was caribou hunting in a different area east of where you and I were. And we had gone three miles up a tributary to a river and killed a caribou and gutted it and hauled the meat back down to the main stem. That night we were sitting on the main branch of the river at the mouth of that tributary and watched a grizzly coming down, digging up roots in the gravel bar. And it got to the mouth of that tributary and you can see something strike its nose to where like a scent. And it stood up on its back legs, waved its nose in the air for a long time, spun around, did it again, and eventually ran up that tributary. And I didn't go check, but I am certain based on the wind patterns that he smelled that gut pile from three miles away. And that's what they're out doing, man. They're covering ground. And so on that trip we were on, we had...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I hate stakes. I don't want people to take it the wrong way. Up in the Arctic slope and in the Brooks range, it's a resource poor area. It looks amazing. It's gorgeous when you're out in front of a migrating her to caribou. It looks like the land is like crawling with animals. But the thing is, you could sit there at times of the year. You could sit there for months and nothing will come by. And so a big animal like that just covers ground. And they need to be extraordinarily opportunistic. They're going to be eating primarily probably the bulk of that animal's diet is going to be vegetation. Berries, roots. But they're just on the move all the time because they're always out looking for like that big windfall.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Brown, what we call brown bears, kodiak bears, barren ground grizzlies up on the Arctic slope where we were up in the Brooks Range. It's all the same species, right? So they have big differences physiological differences. They look different. They act different in these different places, but it's just different, you know, kind of like manifestations of the same animal. And one of the things that these barren ground grizzlies up there or bears in the interior, a thing they're known for is they have these enormous home ranges. A brown bear, let's say a kodiak brown bear, everybody's heard of that, like biggest bears in the world, biggest, you know, brown bears in the world. They might have a very, very small home range. They eat a lot of salmon, they live in a resource-rich environment. They got their spot and they stay there and defend it against other boars. But up in these areas, you have...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you're right about the deet, a bottle 100% deet. And man, it want to ruin a lot of my stuff because I had given it a lot of time to fester, spilled in the corner of my tent, and leaked out of like, it was a mess. In terms of the bear, yeah, so I'll point this out. We've been talking about grizzly bears. We've touched on grizzly bears in the lower 48. Anytime we use the word grizzly bear, if you ask a taxonomist, like a geneticist, they would tell you that grizzly bears in the lower 48”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Had spilled in your tent 100% deep had spilled and eaten a hole through the floor of my tent and warped my phone case and ruined my phone.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But yeah, wolves are like, no, it was a plan. There was a bounty. There was poison. There was a plan. And the plan worked too well.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Elk. Were removed not with a, they were removed not with specific intent. No one set out to be like, I would like to remove elk from the landscape. It just happened.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's really interesting that you, I love that the mention of face masks where, yeah, you're right. We're not talking about face masks. It's like we're not actually talking about the thing on your face. We're talking about this whole set of ideas associated with the thing, right? Yeah, that's a good point. Exactly.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so political. Oftentimes an animosity toward the animal develops because the animal becomes emblematic of what some people might view as federal overeat and like something being shoved down their throats. And so politically and culturally, it seems that it's a little safer to let things happen gradually and naturally than it is to force your hand by politicizing biology.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, Colorado is faced with a very similar situation that is what Montana was faced with when they did a reintroduction in essentially in Wyoming in Yellowstone National Park is that there were animals coming in naturally. There were animals coming in naturally from Canada. We would have landed eventually where in the future from today we would have landed where we are now without doing the reintroduction. And some people would say the same thing about Colorado. They're headed that direction. There are wolves showing up. It used to be like a rumor. It was debated. It's just an absolute fact now. Like there are wolves in Colorado coming in on their own. And some people prefer that because the social tensions become lower. There's a thing that can happen with animals. You might call it the spotted owl effication of certain species where when conservation becomes so part of the...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You know, they ate seven pounds of meat a day. Seven pounds of meat a day. They're alive 365 days a year. They kill a lot of shit. And to say like how hunters think about it is really tough, man, because the full array of thoughts. But I'll say this. We don't like those wolves as much as we like those elk. And that's that I can promise you is true”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People's attitudes about it. And there's a real contradiction like a funny part of this I like to point out to people. Alaska still has wolves and grizzlies. You know, I don't know across 99 or 95% of their historic range in Alaska. Alaska doesn't have large, they don't have large land mammals on the endangered species act, right? They've maintained all their stuff. Wolves everywhere you go. There's a likelihood of running into wolves. You're going to run into grizzlies. Yet American hunters all dream of going up to hunt in Alaska. And you always want to point out like, are you sure you hate wolves? That place is full of wolves. There must not be any game in Alaska. How could there be game in Alaska? They have wolves. And you would think with some people that wolves coming back into certain areas would mean the sure death of all ungulates that live there. And I think that's an exaggeration, but wolves don't eat granola bars either.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Are coming in naturally, drifting down from Wyoming. It's as nuanced as this. You'll have people say, why would we reintroduce them when they're showing up at their own pace through natural migration? And that's like a pretty nuanced perspective, right? I welcome them walking in. I don't welcome them flying in.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, yeah, people like all predators, I look at it a little bit like this. You know, when a coyote runs into a red fox, he likes to kill it. When a wolf runs into a coyote, he likes to kill it. Predators tend to want to reduce their competition. And I think that you could say that about hunters in general, though there are many, many, many exceptions. I know some very avid hunters, lifelong, very avid hunters who really welcome wolves as wolves expand their range every year, welcome wolves back on the landscape. And even within those people that welcome back on the landscape, you'll find differences. There's a push right now. There's like a referendum vote in Colorado coming right up to sort of like mandate the reintroduction of wolves in Colorado. A lot of people are uneasy with that. The reason they're uneasy with that is wolves.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Winter periods, right? So I forgot that part. Yeah. There's a lot of tremendous amount of animosity. There's a tremendous amount of animosity toward wolves in the hunting community. It's definitely not across the board. I know a lot of hunters. that really like to see wolves and welcome wolves on the landscape. But yeah, I should clarify that when it comes to, I'm speaking very generally here, okay, I'm speaking very generally, I would say in general. Let me put it this way. Let's take a state that doesn't even have wolves. I would say that if someone proposed reintroducing wolves in Missouri, they would get an enormous amount of pushback from deer hunters. When someone decided to do reintroduction work in portions of Missouri on turkeys, I do not think they would have gotten any pushback.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Is that people like elk? They like to hunt elk and they want a shitload of elk. And you can critique their motivation all you want, but then you can't really, you have to then look at like, what is the sum thing? The sum part of it is that a group like Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation or National Wild Turkey Federation, right? They have every year they add to the net amount of pristine wildlife habitat that exists in this country. And you cannot say the same thing about PETA. You can't say it. When it really comes down to really saving animals, that's saving habitat. The animals, you give them the right place, the animals, for the most part take care of themselves. And that's what's being done by hunters and anglers.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Get into good grasslands and eat. If you want to help elk, it used to be the best way to help elk was tranquilizing them, lifting them up with a helicopter and moving them over a couple mountain ranges and letting them back go again. Now we recognize like the way to help elk is to look at like where is the bottleneck in their well-being and the bottleneck in their well-being is often riparian habitat areas. So we're going to go and preserve, protect as much riparian habitat as we can. Who else uses riparian habitat and who else likes a lot of elk? Well Wolves like it in the winter wolves need a lot of elk. So by helping elk through improving their habitat and protecting their habitat, you're helping everything on the landscape from songbirds to insects, pollinators, raptors. You're helping everything. People definitely recognize this when they participate in these activities, but the motive.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Wetland habitats and buy them often through like a willing seller willing buyer transaction which is one of the things also one of the things Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation does and Turkey Federation these places all often do the same playbook they get grants they raise money from donors they do fundraisers and a big part of their work is they identify keystone habitats for like you know and you hear like keystone species so it's a thing that they want it's a thing they like And by securing habitat for that animal, you're securing habitat for everything, restoring natural ecosystems. In the West, for instance, one of the more imperiled ecotypes in the West is like large riparian areas, elk winter in these large riparian areas, meaning they go down along the main rivers, okay? They go down into big river valleys to get out of the elevation, get out of the snow.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Dirk, and I bet they sleep with someone that does, right? What their work winds up focusing on is it's not so much that you're managing the animals, though that happened at a time. At a time like wildlife work in this country really was focused pretty heavily on moving animals around. Putting them back in places. That's become complicated for a variety of things, including disease transmission and other issues, just like red tape issues, bureaucratic issues, disease transmission issues that make You can't just willy-nilly truck animals around the country, dumping them out where you wish they were anymore. It's tough. These organizations now mostly focus on habitat work. Oftentimes, their primary thing is simply buying and protecting habitat. When you get into something like Keystone Species, let's say your duck's unlimited and you take money and you buy wetlands, you're looking for pristine imperil.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“When you look at the habitat work, you'll find that we have these terms we use like capstone, keystone species, okay? And when you look at organizations that do habitat work, they would tell you and they're right in telling you this, that there is a massive trickle down effect. For instance, let's look at the work by two groups like Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk found it. We'll do three. Ducks Unlimited, Rocky Mountain Elk Foundation, Wild Turkey Federation. You listen to those names. We'll throw a fish in one in two and say Trout Unlimited, right? You look at those names. These are like species specific conservation groups and their constituencies are hunters and anglers. I'm sure there's probably some person that belongs to National Wild Turkey. I'm like a lifetime member of National Wild Turkey Federation. I'm sure there's people that belong to National Wild Turkey Federation that don't hunt turkeys, but in the words of Pat.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, that's where it gets pretty tricky, man. I would like to tell you, I would love to tell you. That my hunting compatriots were as supportive of efforts to recover non-game species as they were game species. But that's not true.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Long as you had public approval and didn't lose in the legislative process and hunting got banned everywhere, which would probably happen pretty quickly if you were the only guy up to it because there wouldn't be a lot of people there like guarding the gate, right? So that's the catch-22. That's the hard part of this. Some people find it deeply offensive. Well-intentioned, well-reasoned people find it deeply offensive that you would want to expand hunter numbers. Like, what are you talking about? Why would you do that? It'd be like when I was in, I think I was in eighth or ninth grade, I had a civics teacher. No, he was in high school. I had a civics teacher who was supposed to help all of us kids get registered to vote. And he was like, why would I want you people to register to vote? Why would I want to dilute my vote?”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“From 10, only a couple states maintained any sort of turkey season. Most states it was illegal to touch a turkey. We now have turkey hunting seasons in forty nine states, so they did recovery and then some on turkeys, and that was driven by hunters. And you could, and someone could sit and say, yeah, you guys did that because you like to hunt turkeys. And I would say, yeah, there's a lot of truth to that. There's a lot of truth to that. There was an incentive to do it, but it was done, you know, and this is the sort of work that will go down that you would lose if you lost that funding mechanism. Now, the catch-22 is that, and this is legitimate. The catch 22 is that if 100 numbers go down, it's great for any individual hunter who has less competition. You could live in a world where you're the only guy that went out and hunted, you'd have a pretty sweet situation.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Driving populations of elk and elk hunting seasons across the bulk of the state. But still, with as many elk as we have, as much as we associate elk hunting and seeing elk, elk are still missing from some 90% of their historic range. Everywhere was elk habitat, and they've been extirpated. They're gone from those places. Some of the work that's done by state agencies and other wildlife groups, many of them hunter-based wildlife groups, is doing as much as we can to put those animals back where they belong. If you think, if you look at it in terms of the turkey, at the time of European contact, we had wild turkeys and probably 39 states. There's some debate about where they were. And it wasn't static, right? Like wildlife dynamic, you know, it expands its range, its range shrinks. We probably had turkeys in 39 states. By the late 1800s, early 1900s, we only had wild turkeys in nineteen states. They vanished.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it's a great word. I also want to get into the catch 22 of this all. Yeah. Extirpate is people are familiar with extinction, right? Extirpation is regional extinction, meaning grizzly bears are abundant. Grizzly bears are recovered in portions of Wyoming. Wolves are recovered in portions of Wyoming. Wolves have been extirpated from the bulk of their range in the U.S. Grizzly bears were extirpated from California. They're not extinct, but they're regionally extinct. So you could say that they were extirpated, like brought to regional extinction in California. There's an ongoing bit of effort, much of it funded by hunters, for instance, around reintroducing species that were extirpated through habitat destruction and over-harvest. For instance, at a time New Mexico had literally run out of elk. They had none. Now they have...”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Like habitat improvement, habitat expansion, habitat acquisition, wildlife work, disease work, reintroducing species that extirpated from the landscape, that a lot of that work will lose its funding structure and will go away.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You need to go buy a federal duck stamp. And for years, the federal duck stamp had been $15. It just raised up into the 20s. All of that money from all of those millions of individuals buying those federal duck stamps, all of that money goes into fund waterfowl habitat. Meaning it goes into wetlands work. Anytime you, if you have a bear in your yard, it'll say you realize that you have a bear in your yard getting in your garbage. When you call a number, that's going to be someone from your wildlife agency who's going to show up. That wildlife agency individual will show up. And when they show up, their salary, equipment, everything, like their agency is funded by expenditures from hunters and anglers. So a fear is that if hunter numbers go down, our ability to fund habitat work.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'll give you a great, for instance. Anyone who hunts ducks, anyone in this country who hunts ducks, any kind of waterfowl, migratory waterfowl, ducks, geese, cranes, whatever. Besides buying your state license, state hunting license, you usually need like a base hunting license. You need a state waterfowl permit.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“As many hunters then as we have now. So participation rates decline. In many cases, numbers of people who hunt Your state's wildlife apparatus. If people aren't doing those activities anymore, those funding structures fall apart.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Well, that was the peak in terms of per capita All those dudes, this actually plays into my, I got to remember where I was at. This actually plays into my own sort of Genesis, right? My dad, my dad had me, he was old. My dad had me when he was 50. He fought in World War II. And when he came home from World War II, he, like just about every other guy that went off and fought in World War II, got into hunting and fishing. It was sort of that era, the late 40s, early 1950s, that was the birth of the modern American sportsman. People had money, they were buying cars. They were traveling around. We were fetishizing the great outdoors. And my dad was part of that generation. But I'm saying hunting participation was so high then. I don't know, like, I guess you could look up real quick what the U.S. population was in 1947 say, or 1950. But, you know, I think we've quadrupled our population, but we had about”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And we're seeing a fair bit of that, whether or not they'll be fishing in two years is not known. A fear about declining hunter numbers. And I'll tell you an interesting point. I think that there are about as many hunters right now as there were in the years following World War II.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“For state fishing game agencies is excise taxes on firearms, ammunition, very use specific sporting goods items, marine gas, fishing tackle, fishing line. These excise taxes, which are going to be like on guns and ammo, these excise taxes committed around 11 or 12%. So when you go down and buy, even if some person that lives in New York City goes down and buy and they have a concealed carry permit say and they go down and buy some ammo for a concealed carry permit about 11 or 12% of the cost they pay on that ammo goes to fund wildlife and that's how we pay for this whole system there are complexities to it but that's how we pay for it a fear about declining hunting and angling numbers you know angling numbers this is since covet they're seeing a pretty strong uptick in fishing numbers with people like i think people weren't able to go do what they would normally do”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“so if someone's poaching that's a state issue and that all comes from your state fishing game agency some state fishing game agencies get no hard funding when you pay your taxes in your state in a lot of states none of your general tax money goes to your state fishing game agency the bulk of state fishing game agencies finances come from the sale of licenses tags and stamps hunting licenses fishing licenses permits tags all the stuff that goes with hunting and fishing And another major funding source.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Exceptions too when you get an endangered species act and things like that, but generally you could say that the people in a state own the wildlife in that state. So if you're sitting in New York and you see a deer, you as a New Yorker own that deer. That deer is managed for you by your state agency. So it doesn't matter what that deer is sitting in a cemetery. If it jumps a fence into a county park, if it jumps a fence onto a farm, if it jumps a fence into a national forest, that deers the states, meaning it's yours. These agencies manage wildlife in terms of access to it, oftentimes states manage like boat launches and trailheads on state lands and things, but they also do disease work on wildlife. So they do researching diseases. Wildlife management, enforcement of wildlife.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I would love to. This is something that there's a catch 22 almost within this. But yeah, I'd love to talk about that. So I know you have a global audience. I'm going to run down how it works in the United States. I can claim subject matter expertise in the US, and I have a passing familiarity with other places, but I'm going to focus on the U.S. The U.S. has 50 states, right? So all 50 states have a state fishing game agency. And your state fishing game agencies are responsible for the stewardship of wildlife in your state. There are exceptions to this because migratory birds and some migratory fishes and things where an animal isn't going to live its entire life sort of in one in the confines of a particular state, then you'll have federal oversight over what happens in a state. Like there's sort of some federal guidelines about how a state might handle its wildlife resources.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Because I see many, many people go down the same path that I did. A long exposure to this seems to lead in this direction for most people.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Scientists, biologists, ecologists, philosophers, whatever, it's become more fine-tuned. And I now have a very acute sense of what it takes to have wildlife and wild places. I have a good understanding of that now. I understand our history now, and that has led me to like an extraordinary amount of reflection over the years about what role a hunter or an angler should play when it comes to environmental stewardship and hunting. So I associate as a conservationist because I try to really put my money and actions where my mouth is on conservation, meaning clean air, clean water, lots of animals, lots of wildlife habitat. Those are things I stand for. And I see that that is a thing that's increasing among my kind. But it's a little tough for me to think of myself as somehow extraordinary.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I at times, when faced with an abundant surplus At the same time, we would see behaviors that we recognized as abhorrent, things that would probably blow away any negatives that you might have seen growing up. I've probably seen worse behaviors from hunters and anglers than you have. So I always lived with even if from my perspective right now we had some poor behaviors, some ill-thought behaviors, I always recognized a spectrum of bad behavior and there were things that would happen around us that my father would be incensed about and would like dissociate with people who had extraordinarily bad behavior. And if you look at that sense of there being a spectrum of ethics or a spectrum of a conservation ethos throughout life with education and with like various epiphanies that come with just learning how to think and having exposure to books and ideas.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The history of how things came to be the way they were. We had a lot of national forest around us. We were sort of on the southern terminus of the Manistee National Forest. I think now it's the Huron Manistee National Forest. It was combined with another national forest. We were sitting at the southern terminus of that national forest. I couldn't have told you the first thing about how that place came to be. What sacrifices were made in our history to have the abundant wildlife that we had? I couldn't have told you how bad things had gotten in this country in the late 1800s and early 1900s with regards to wildlife. If there was a sign on that national forest that said close to vehicular traffic, if it wasn't physically blocked, that sign wouldn't really mean much to us. If it looked like somebody else drove there, we would drive there as well.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I absolutely do. Even sitting where I'm at today. So you're reading from when you're 38, I'm 46. Even sitting from where I am today, when I look back at what our relationship, when I say our families, the people I was around, what our relationship was with nature in the out of doors was very much based on a deep, deep love and appreciation for resources for wild places, for nature. It was almost like we would have never put these words to it, but it was a sacred thing. And it was almost like a sort of worship for animals in a worship of wild places. But the perspective on it, I didn't know.”
2020-10-06 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #470: Steven Rinella on Hunting (And Why You Should Care), Reconnecting with Nature, Favorite Trips, and More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT