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Susan Garrett

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“Yeah, I'm in Canada. And so does it change the targeted behavior? The targeted behavior is we don't want you to speed again. Well, clearly it doesn't because there are some of us who do speed again. But punishment, all punishment has fallout. And the fallout is it changes a different part of the behavior unrelated to the targeted one. So the fallout of getting a speeding ticket is anytime you see a parked car on the side of the road, what do you do? You immediately assume it's on marked police car and you take your foot off the gas, even if you're not speeding. You have a visceral response of this is the follow of the punishment that I've earned. And if a police officer pulls in behind you and you're driving in the city, even if you're not doing anything wrong, what are your emotions? You know, you get a little tense, you get your perfect driver's ed 10 o'clock and 2 o'clock positioning on the wheel and you check and you start driving by.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Since you brought up police officers, I have this great analogy with punishment and reinforcement. And the punishment of being pulled over to get a speeding ticket, which I'm sure you've never had a speeding ticket. They're just far too nice a guy. But those of us who've actually had speeding tickets, that's a punishment, right? It's a little bit of cash out of the wallet and I don't know how it works in the States, but we get these demerit points. And if you get too many, you have to go in and get an interview and hold nine yards. So it's a punishment. But it's an insignificant”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You would wait that the dog makes shifts or wait backwards. You would throw the cookie between the front paws. And then the dog would look down for the cookie and you could click that. And then guess what? They're going to look down for another cookie and you click that. And now you're clicking them for backing up. And you just wait till they back up even further and you just keep rolling the cookie. We call that about placement of reinforcement is just so powerful when you're trying to shape behaviors. We want the behavior to be associated, the reinforcement to be associated with what the dog is doing. Therefore, if, for example, if you're trying to teach your dog to lay down and they lay down and you click them and you gave them a cookie when they got up, they would still learn to lay down, but the placement of reinforcement is such that it delays that learning. It would take you longer. And if you've got the cookie in while they're in the down, that would be much better.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“No, I would definitely use it for create a behavior. I would do parts of it for sure. And oftentimes I don't use the cookie as a lure, but not that I would have a problem with anybody doing it at all. But if you a lot of the times, like let's say you are getting your dog to spin in a circle, you know, similar to rolling on ground. But if they started turning one and they started going part way and you click that, they're likely going to carry on the rest of the way to get the cookie, right? And so you're actually clicking, you're marking. That's what I like. And then they're coming around to get the cookie. So it finishes the spin and you get the spin a lot faster by using that clicker instead of just lowering the spin all the way around. Same with if you were one to teach your dog to backup. We're going to get some good party tricks from people here. You could take like a piece of cable on your kitchen floor. That's the best combination for teaching the dog to back up.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There's some great tools that sometimes you need a scalpel. Like if I'm teaching my dog to wave, put their paw up above their ear, then I would use a clicker for that because I want the height of how high can you reach that paw. I'll click that. But sometimes, you know, I use example, if you're going to have brain surgery, you want your surgeon to use a laser. And that's what a clicker is. It's really pinpoints. You wouldn't want that surgeon to use a melon baller. And sometimes a melon baller will do for us. And that is the word yes. So there are times where you can just mark, yeah, or yes, that was good. Thanks for bringing that ball back. Yes, good dog. Other times you really want something that gets the message across super clearly that this is a slice of the behavior that I love. And that's when you use a clicker.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But I still use the word yes, but yes isn't always followed up with food. A clicker is always followed up with a toy or something the dog really has high, high value for. And a clicker basically, it's using classical conditioning. So it goes back to ring a bell, present the food instead of ringing a bell, we are clicking a clicker. And it's best for behaviors that are really that you can you want to isolate a small slice of a behavior. So for example a recall, it's harder to click for a recall unless you're going to click the moment they give you the head turn, but you don't want to just click that moment in time or it becomes like musical chairs where the dog turns but they don't move because they're waiting that music might stop here because you always clicked right here. And so, you know, a clicker, as I said to you, is a scalpel and there, you know.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's not Right, because you can say if the dog did something amazing, you might say yes. And if the dog, you are like, oh, it was okay. Yeah, yeah, yes. So where a clicker is a clicker and it doesn't have any judgment. And it's just marking. That was good. You're going to get a reward.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And that's how we met. Greg was a student of mine for many, many years, and now we're great friends. And he's an awesome guy. And he still helps with U.S. diving too. So it's really cool. So he brings his, what he knows about dog training, he brings it into the diving world. So Clicker is awesome, but it is a conditioned reinforcer. It's telling the dog it's a promissory note that something is going to happen. That's amazing. There's a lot of different things you can use. If you have a pen click, you can use the top of a pen clicking. You can even, you know, use a word. Yes is the word that I use most often. The difference between a clicker and the word yes is yes can be judgmental. So it's not necessarily the best thing.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it is a marker in the marine mammal world, we call it a bridge. So a bridge between marking what we really like and when we can get that reward to the dog. So in a perfect world, when a dog did something we wanted, we could magically make food appear right in front of their face. But that isn't possible. So we need to bridge for the dog between the time of when they did something amazing and when we can get that food to their face. And I know a good friend of mine, Greg Luganus, who's won gold medals at the Olympics, he said, they have used it for divers as well to mark when they're in their spin that that was, okay, your arms were in the right spot, boom. So the diver can hear and start to know, you know, get that feedback because it was really difficult to point, to pinpoint. So it's exactly the same thing as if you were clicking.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Don't be awakened a mama at night. And I don't, I just don't get woke up. So it's awesome for me. I'm not cranky in the morning because my puppy woke me up. And certainly if, you know, if they are sick, that's fine. They have explosive diarrhea or whatever. They can wake me up and I will always get out with a dog who wants to get out. But I won't interact with them in any way. And that's a biggie that you not make that reinforcement. Don't be reinforcing it.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's good because if you again are taking a puppy to visit family or friends, you want them to empty their bladder before they go into this house. So if you condition a word and again, it's just like Pavlov, you wait until they start peeing and then you just say that word really quietly in a way that doesn't disturb them, right? So if it's potty, you just say potty, potty, potty, and you start to condition that word with an act of releasing their bladder. And they get reinforcement because it feels better because they've released their bladder. But if you wanted to give them a little cookie for peeing outside after, that's cool too. But on leash in an area you want them to do their business in and you just get into this routine of potting on leash and playing and feeding. And then you have a puppy that has, you know, we have one time to make our first impression and our first impression is all good things come through you. And, you know, and when I don't, I have this rule. Don't wake the mama at night. Mama likes to.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So, any other time when I take that puppy outside, it's always on a leash so that I can help to create, you know what? I don't want you pee in my garden. I'd like you to pee in the back corner where the trees are. That's where your potty area. And your dog's going to just, you're going to be able to clean up the same place all the time because the dogs grow up learning. This is where they want me to do my business. They're always on a leash. And the other thing about always on a leash is let's say you end up going to a hotel, which I do. If your dog hasn't been raised to do their business on a leash, they're not going to do their business on a leash. And so you're going to be walking up and down in this hotel on that little strip of grass out in front, trying to get them to pee, and they're not going to because you haven't conditioned it from the time they were babies. So when you take them out, always you're quiet until they start doing their business. And I'm personally, I like to give that a name. Have you done that, Tim, with Molly? Give it a name.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With them. So I opened the crate. There's no crate games. I just lift them out. I put the leash. I actually clip the leash right around their collar. And I don't care if you have a fenced in backyard, put the leash on the puppy. And I take the puppy out, they do their business. I say nothing to them. I pick them back up in my arms, take the leash off, put them back in the crate. So the mistake people make is they go, oh, the puppy's really energetic at two in the morning. So I'll just do a little bit to tire him out. Oh, hell no. Reinforcement builds behavior. And if you're telling the puppy play session at 2 a.m. happens every night. going to get woke up at 2 a.m. every night.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Drink, and then they wouldn't get access to water again. And one of the important things that, you know, I have never had a puppy wake me up in the middle of the night past the first night. And some of them don't even do it that first night, but it just never happens. And I talk to people who they have seven and eight-month-old puppies still waking them up in the middle of the night. And so, you know, this protocol that I have for the first 24 hours, it really works well. One of the things that I do is I take a chair from our kitchen and I put the crate on the chair and I put the crate right beside my face on the bed. So I'm sleeping and my breath is blowing into that puppy's crate. You can even get these toys that create a heartbeat like the mother's heartbeat. And I think those are great too if you wanted to go that route and put it right in the crate with a puppy. If the puppy wakes me up, I this is the only time when a puppy tells me I need to go potty outside that I don't make any kind of interaction.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The first 24 hours. So, you know, the first thing I do is I play Tug with them. So I get a nice long, fluffy tug and I create the first game of choice right there. So I'll tug and then I'll pull it out of their mouth and I'll put it a few inches away from them and they dive on it and they tug and I pull it out of their mouth and I put it maybe a little further and they dive on it. And I'll do that a few times. And then the next time I won't put it down, I'll put it up against my body and they'll bounce at my body and they'll bite up my body. And as soon as they start stop bouncing or biting, then I put it back down and tell them they can get it. And so we're building an interaction of choice right from the first moment they come into my home. And so we get that puppy played out, you know, obviously give them a drink water, put them in their crate, let them sleep. And you go back between playing, feeding, and sleeping before whatever sessions you have. And we touched on, you know, three to five minutes. And then maybe two hours before you're going to go to bed, you would have your last one of these sessions. And then they would get an”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Terrified of you. So there's just some things that you should be prepared with. A really good quality chewy for the dog, something that if they did happen to chew on something you didn't want to them to chew on, you would just replace it with what you do want them to chew and a toy tug toy. So these are just all the things you should be preparing. Education being the number one thing and a crate, I would say would be number two. And then for the first 24 hours, you know, I'll just go through if you want, Tim, I'll go through what I do when I get a new puppy.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Goes to the bathroom on the floor all the time, then it's reflecting to you that you haven't made it clear that there shouldn't be options here. And so when people get a new dog, I tell people the first 24 hours is critical. And I'm intending to put this on our website. It's a free download of what you should be preparing for the first 24 hours. But the obvious things is you should get a crate and you should get really good quality dog food and educate education. And again, be intentional. Find out what dog training resonates with your core beliefs, with how you want your animal to be raised. And somebody was telling me yesterday, somebody I really respected was saying how he was getting his friend's dog. He was training it by scaring it. And I'm like, did you do that to a four-year-old kid? Like, is that really how you want an animal to respond to you and to be?”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Chasing a deer, then that shows they're just a reflection and they're trying to help us be better dog trainers. And you either take that information or you ignore it. And I've got on my YouTube page, I've got this video called The Journey. It's probably one of my, it's got like 300,000 hits on it. And it's all about, yeah, and it's all about that.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To correct that form that it is to start with good form right from the beginning. And I see that as the number one problem with people with dog training is there's this mismatch of expectations with the people that, and in my own parents, when we had our family dog, you kind of touched on it with your family dog. They're almost feral because we just expect that they're going to do what we say. And it's crazy because there was never any actual reinforcement put into what we wanted. It's just like, dude, what's wrong with you? Don't you understand English? Well, no, they don't. So people, they just expect so much and they haven't really prepared the dogs. And I say this to all my students, and I've been saying this for 25 years. Our dogs are a reflection of our ability to train. So if there's areas that your dog isn't brilliant at, if your dog doesn't bring the toy back, if they don't come when they're called, when they're maybe 50 feet away.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So there's this challenge going around, and I'm not going to do 10,000. I might get to 10,000, but they want you to do 10,000 and 28 days, which is not going to happen. But I thought, I'm going to do, let's say, started with 100 swings a day, and then I'm going to go to 200 swings a day. But I decided, you know what? I think I've got pretty good form, but I videoed myself, looked at my form, checked it out. And then I posted it in a Facebook group that I belong to. It's a kettlebell Facebook group. Can you give me any input on my form? Because before you start, you know, you want to make sure you're doing it right because if you do 10,000 repetitions of something, you're going to be, you know, creating bad form. And it's the same with your puppy. You bring that, we all get one chance to make a first impression with our dogs when we first bring them home, whether it's a puppy or a rescue dog. You get one chance to make that first impression. And if they come in and go, wow, no rules, I'm here at Disneyland. Let's go, then you're in trouble because they learn to have bad form and they keep having bad form. And it's more difficult.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's the same with us, right? Like I recently started, I was going to do this kettlebell challenge. I don't know if you've heard about this 10,000 swaying kettlebell challenge.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's because dog trading with people is, I mean, dog training should be intentional, but most often it's either accidental or reactionary. And so it's accidental in that the dog learns how to tip over the garbage and get stuff out, or it's reactionary in that you see something like the puppy chewing on the slipper or the puppy, you know, peeing on the floor or the puppy, it's a reaction. And that's, and if you are intentional, which you have been really good with Tim, being very intentional about what you want the outcome to be, then you don't tend to have the same problems. And, you know, I tell people in the whatever 30 years I've owned a dog, I've never had one chew a slipper or two furniture, or it just doesn't happen because I'm so intentional about what I want when I'm raising them.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Really appreciates the opportunity to come up and play catch with you because its value through you that helps create a better bond. And it's the same with dogs, value coming through you that you don't just have, you know, a lot of people's homes, when I used to go in, do one-on-one in people's homes, the number one mistake they would make is that the food was always on the floor. It never had any association with you whatsoever. The dog didn't have to work for it. They didn't really need you at all. So that's”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They can run around and be goofballs and the food still comes. So there is no transfer through him versus what you did was you had Molly in the reward zone and reinforced her there. And that's the magic. That's how you get the transfer of value is that it isn't just here's your food and don't you love me, you don't give it away for free. You've got to make great value of it. I think there's some old folklore your mother might have told you about that. It's the same holds true. It's got to be earned. And that's when the magic starts happening. That's how you start to build a relationship. And it goes again with any animal. Look at a kid. If a kid who has absolutely everything and doesn't, you know, they don't necessarily want to go out and play catch with you versus the kid who has virtually nothing and really.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“A couple things, though, that you said, Tim, that I just want to point out number one, what happened with you and Molly when you came back was a great example of a transfer of value. And you made a comment that he who feeds the dog gets the respect and the response of the dog, which isn't the case because I never feed our dogs for John and I've been together for 20 years and he's the only one who ever feeds them and they don't give him the time of day. And the reason is there's no transfer value. He does nothing. They don't have to do anything to get that food.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“With the kids, tell them here's the treat bowl and you get a cookie and then you wait until the dog's not paying attention to you, say their name, and then you can give them a cookie. But that's the magic key is the cookie. And if you don't have a key, you can't say the name. And I tell them to give them another word like pop, pop, pop. You can call the dog pop, pop, pop unless you have the magic cookie. And so, you know, that's what works to help build that behavior. And so when we get to the restraint recall, the dog's got an understanding of what the name is and they're starting to chase you, but you might build up to maybe 30 or 40 feet that you're away. And you just delay a little bit. You call the name, you wait until the dogs maybe taking two strides and then you run. And then eventually you just ping pong that distance. You're unpredictable. The dog really doesn't know when you're going to run. So their first response is always to chase because they want to catch you up.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Dog's name. I encourage them to pick one or the other word and make it a magic word. So again, if you've got kids in the house and you want them to be involved with this, you've got to tell the kids they've got to have the magic key in order to be allowed to say the dog's name. So anywhere around the house, they're not allowed to use the dog's name because that's how. The dogs just learned to tune it out, right? Right. They hear their name a hundred times and then they don't respond. If you want a dog to respond to their name every time you say it.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, you know, everything we do is something, regardless of the underlying thing I tell people is it's all behavior, whether we're doing it with people or we're doing it with dogs and we're just shaping their behavior to have a better outcome for them. So whatever it is we're doing, when you're allowing the dog to make a choice, then you're shaping. So that's how I would define what's shaping. It's the dog makes a choice and they get a positive outcome. It could be a negative outcome too. You can shape them away from something as well, but we don't go there, but it's the same thing. So that's really what shaping is. And so what we're doing with our restraint recalls, when we're doing is we're taking the reliance of the prey instinct away and we're working on the dogs just responding to their name. And some people like to say the word come instead of.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“The caller story, but it's brilliant if you've got if you want to, you know, maybe a spouse that really doesn't want to be involved with a dog. Well, this is a way that they can see something happening which is really cool and it makes them to become more a part of that dog's life. And it helps the dog listen, you know, respond a little bit better to that other person in the home.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's actually a combination of restraint recalls and the collar grab. It's just a shorter distance and it's a more intense of you can do it by yourself, but it's best if you have, especially if you have kids. This is something, you know, you want to bring your kids into the training of your dog. And so you just get a little semicircle and everybody's got a cookie in their hand and somebody calls a dog's name. And when the dog's head turns, they grab the caller and give them the cookie. Then the next person calls the dog's name. Grab the caller, give the cookie. And the dog is learning to give you that head whip response when they hear their name. And you're also building in the grab of the caller. It's an awesome little thing to do with, again, you can do it by yourself. And I would just keep the dog on leash, call the name, grab the cookie.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So really important that once they see the food, all bets are off and you're not conditioning anything So don't move your hand with the food until you've got that collar. Then you move your hand in. That's a really simple, simple, yet incredibly powerful game. And when you really need it, you're going to say, wow, thanks, Tim Parris. That chick you had on that show. She taught me something. Really worked.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But if you've put in the value of the collar grab as soon as your hand goes out, it just switches, it turns a switch in them. And oh yeah, that's my game where I put my collar in your hand and good things happen to me. So it's a game that doesn't take any time at all to play. You know, if you have a dog, a 10-year-old dog, you could start it today and just anytime you have a cookie or something the dog really values, just grab the caller and give it to them and just make sure though that you don't have the food motioning towards them before you grab the collar because it's just like that pavlov spell thing, you know, pavlov did the experiment where he rang the bell and presented the food. But when he tried it in reversed and presented the food and rang the bell, it didn't work. So with every breed of dog, he found that within 25 repetitions, ring the bell, present the food. He got an expected response from any dog. But when he did it reverse after”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Built them is that they are far better at predicting events than we are. So they can predict reinforcement and they can predict what they decide is punishment. So let's say you're late for work and your dog's in the backyard and you go to reach for them. They're going to dance about two feet outside of your reach. And that happens most when you're in the biggest hurry.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What's number four? And the fourth one is the collar grab game, where anytime you're going to give your dog a cookie around the house, anytime you grab the collar first, and the dog, before you get, you know, you have the cookie in your hand, grab the collar and give the cookie. So at the end of a street recall, if you're going to give your dog a cookie, the first thing you do is grab the collar and then give the cookie. And we want to classically condition like Pavlov, ring the bell. The dog would salivate. We want to condition in the dog when I reach for your caller. Good things are happening. And we want to do this for two reasons. Number one, if there's danger at any time and you and you're not yourself and you're frantic and you want to lunch for your dog, you want your dog to not be afraid, but say, hey, this is that game we play every day, all day. It's awesome. I just give him my caller. And number two, if you don't make a habit of that, your dog's the most brilliant things about dogs and the way that evolution is.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Recalls that we've done. It's fun. You know what? You get a little exercise in there, and the dog just love it. And you can do it in your backyard. If you're by yourself, if you're really stuck, you just wrap your leash around a pole and you kind of move out a little bit and throw the leash when you call the dog's name and start running. And if you're a fast runner, it's a no-brainer.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Restraint recalls. And when I was single, this was an awesome way to meet people. You'd go to the park and say, could you just hold my puppy while I run away and I'm going to, so you get somebody to hold your puppy by the collar or the shoulders. You move out five feet, call the puppy's name and take off running, the dog chases you because dogs are prey animals and they love that chase. We're putting their name with we're pairing their name with the condition to run as fast as they can towards us. And eventually You make that distance bigger and eventually you don't run, you just stand still until they get partway to you and then you start running because we want to bleed off the big trigger of you running for them to come running and you know because I don't always want to run when I call my dog's name but if you build this in at first you create a like a knee jerk reaction that I hear my name I run and now I might be just standing at the front door and they're still going to run because of all these”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Have an issue Exactly. I totally have an issue with, I see a nice dog bed and I have to, I brought two home from Spain when I was at the World Championships last month. Oops. Anyway, I digress. So now you have a nice looking dog bed in your living room. And someone knocks on the door, you just touch the door and the dog goes flying into their dog bed. And you can open the door. Your guests don't get jumped on. You can talk to the UPS guy, get your delivery, close the door. And then you throw your dog a handful of cookies because they're doing good things. So create games is just the start. where you put foundational layers for good choices and you keep growing it from there and keep moving on so that was the second game the third one you've already made mention of and that's restraint recalls and you can't do those enough you just you know”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, and then Molly will stay, and then you can reward them, and the permission, back to that big reinforcement, the permission to get out and chase the toys or the ball or the cookie that's on the floor, that's what builds value for the dog wanting to stay there. And then you just replace your crate with a nice dog bed, which I think my husband always gives me the gears because we have five dogs and about 40 dog beds around this house.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“To do the behavior, there's no need. People think cues and dogs are verbal sit, but cues can be obviously signals, but they can just be any kind of motion-like touching the door. That means, oh yeah, this is a good thing that's going to happen next. So crate games is, you know, it's just so many things to your dog and you can grow layers of understanding from there. So if it's, I don't want my dog to jump on my guests when they come in the house. Bam. And you don't want a big kratom in your living room. Once the dog understands they don't come out when you touch the door, you can then throw cookies and toys in front of the crate. And I've seen you've done this with Molly, right, Tim?”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let's say you're trying to teach your dog to sit in a traditional school, they may tell you, either use corrections or food to get the dog into that position. And then if the dog moves, you have to go back with your collar and leash and reposition the dog and keep telling them no stay or whatever it is you do. But with crate games, all you do is you watch the dog and you go to give them a cookie. And if as you open the door, they get out of their sit, you just close the door. So it goes back to the fuse being unscrewed when we didn't make the right choice with the TV that if the dog moved, the door just got closed. There was no yanking or pushing or yelling from us. You don't even have to say anything. You just have to close the door until eventually you can open that door and the dog stays in a sit and you can feed them. And then you grow that to be so many things. Like you said, sitting as soon as I put my hand on the front door, all five of my dogs boom, they just go into a sit because they know good things will happen if I do that. And the touching of the door just becomes the cue.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“First of all, dogs are dead animals, and you're creating a spot for them anytime you want to chill. This is your spot. No one's going to come and bother you in there. So they're comfortable in there. Because basically, you know, it's our responsibility, number one, to keep our dogs safe at all costs. And number two, as pet owners, their next job is to build confidence in that dog. And I'd like to elaborate more on how when we fail them in that, it often leads to aggression. We'll go into that later. So crate games, we can do both. We give them a place of safety. And every time, think of a kid who's learning a new skill, the better they get, the more confident they feel and the more.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“There is one that I really like to when I'm going to Europe because it's so convenient. I honestly have to make sure that they still make it before I give you”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is really the foundation of everything we do. And it doesn't matter if you never wanted to do a sport with your dog, if I never stepped into any ring again. Create games is the bomb for me because it sounds like it's just getting a dog to like their crate, but it's not. It's a model for so many things. giving the dog a comfort zone if you're going to visit friends or family you can bring that crate along and today they've got so many phenomenal pop-up crates that are soft-sided that are really convenient i actually throw one in my in my luggage when i travel”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So it starts with that choice game, and we get to a point where when we're training a dog, we want the ultimate goal of dog training is the value of what the dog wants most of all goes through you. So there is, in the end, there is nothing more valuable than you. So if you start with the hand opening close and then you put the cookies on the floor, then you can put like bowls of food on the floor and be training your dog. And they wouldn't even think to go and look at the food on the floor because they know that they have to work to earn that. And that's what you want to be, and it really takes no time at all if you're consistent with your expectations. And we moved from there to create games.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“All games of where the dog can see that their choices leads to great reinforcement. So it's your choice for those of us in the sport world, what you described with having the dog look at your face, that's something that we want the dog to look at work. So it might be a spot on my body rather than my face because I'm running agility and I have a dog who's drawn to want to look at my face, it would get complicated because I'd be tripping over the dog. But it's for the expectations of a pet owner, there's no problem in that at all because you're building value for a place on your body rather than a value for scanning the horizon for something, right?”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Right, exactly. Reinforcement zone or reward zone. And if that's what you think of it, that all good things in life happen right there. Again, pulling on leash is such a pain in the butt for so many people, but they don't realize that the dog's just seeking a position where we've built a lot of value for because Down and put it in front of us. We give them a cookie. They might be standing in front of us or even jumping on us. We give them a cookie. We're sitting on the sofa and we go to pat the dog. They're in front of us. And if you become more intentional about all the good things you deliver happen from the reinforcement zone, from your side, bam, you have a dog that wants to seek out that position”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And you just identify where that reinforcement is and start to control it in a way that you give them permission for what they want. So if we go back to that dog pulling on a leash, you might stand still until the dog came in beside you and then praise them so that they connect, oh, my action gave me the access to be free and chase. Make that connection that all the value comes through you and you become part of the process instead of the dog and the squirrel being the only two people in the process or two animals in the process.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So that goes on all day long, and it's when you have an awakening to where's, we tell our students, where's the value? Where's the value for the dog right now? And if you have an unwanted behavior like pulling on leash, you've got to say, okay, here's what I want. Let's just get clear. This is be real intentional about this is what I want. This is what it's going to look like. This is what I've got. So what's between there is a gap of what I have to train. And the first thing to identify is where's the value for the dog? Because dogs, they just do what's reinforcing.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's exactly the same premise that you control access to the reinforcement and then you reward good choices by giving access to reinforcement. And the thing is with dog owners, they don't realize, you know, when we think about reinforcement, they think, well, I got to go cut up some cheese because I'm training my dog. But there's really, you know, there's three really big reinforcements for our dogs. The food is obvious. Toys, you throw a ball or a frisbee, that's obvious. But it's the hidden ones, the ones that aren't so obvious, that are the ones that get people into trouble. So it's permission to do things. So if you're going to the park and your dog's pulling you on a leash and they're chasing a squirrel and you're like, okay, I got to get rid of this. I'm going to take the leash off. And the dog gets this massive reward of getting to chase a squirrel. But what you've just done with the permission, you've rewarded what?”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And the dog's gonna like paw and bite and bark and go crazy. They're going to be on a leash so that they don't have access to just go find something else to do. But as soon as they stop all that, you open your hand. It's your choice. So your choice was to stop unwanted behavior. And my choice was to open my hand. And then the dog says, hey, party on, I'm going to dive into the food. Well, I didn't like that choice, so I'm going to close my hand. And this goes back and forth like a tennis match until the dog's choice is just to sit back and stare at the hand when it's open and then I pick up a cookie and I feed them. And that's the first communication that's clear to that dog. I am in control of the good things in my life because if I do what this person wants, good things happen. And that's the premise for absolutely everything we do. Whether, you know, I have students who train animals at the Toronto Zoo.”
2016-11-13 · The Tim Ferriss Show · #200: Susan Garrett -- Master Dog (and Human) Trainer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT