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Thomas Curran

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“Yeah, I mean, this is a philosophy that teaches us there's something beautiful in the broken, in the fragile, in the chinks, the curves and the harsh edges and that life is finite, you know, we are exhaustible creatures and we're mere mortals at the end of the day. And there's something quite joyous about that, actually. Knowing those things is incredibly humanizing. And I mean, I completely agree. I think this is a philosophy that has tremendous potential to help us through those difficult moments, knowing that that's just part and parcel of life. And sometimes the way things happen and the way things occur is just fate. And fate is nothing personal. We're just human beings. And I think this is a nice lesson”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think the relationship between perfectionism and performance at work is an important one also to try and unpack a lot of meta-analytical studies showing zero relationship there, but I'd like to know why that is, what are the mechanisms. Is it because perfectionists procrastinate? Is it because perfections tend to burn out more? Is it because they just don't deal with stress as healthily as non-perfectionistic people? Again, the answer to those questions are still open and I'd love to do more work in that area. So cross-cultural stuff, perfectionism in the workplace. I think these are really important areas of future work.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“loads of parts of corrections of Nicola. This is a very new area. I think the cultural stuff that we talked about earlier, we need way more on this. I would love to do cross-cultural comparisons of perfectionism to see where levels are higher or lower. I think that would be a fascinating research question”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's an important component of being brave because you're going to encounter situations where things haven't gone quite so well. If you are willing to put yourself out there, So in those moments, you have to then be very clear to yourself that this is part and parcel of a learning process, of a growth process. And that instead of going in ourselves, like your perfectionism would tell you to do, how could you be so stupid? What were you thinking? You need to treat yourself with kindness all the time. Remind yourself that you are a fallible human being and that sometimes things are going to not go to plan and that's okay. This is just part and parcel of life. There's always next time. So on top of being bold and courageous and vulnerable, you have to at all times be kind to yourself because you are going to hit setbacks and kindness is way better than Christianity.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You cannot please everyone, and there's always going to be bad feedback, there's always going to be criticism. And that's, and actually, you know, in many ways, that's a sign that you've been brave enough to put something in the world for somebody to criticize. It's a reinforcement that this is a really difficult and achievement. But you can't experience those feelings unless you get it out there. So it's really important to be a creative vulnerability, push yourself forward to things that maybe ordinarily you wouldn't push yourself forward for and learn through that experience that it's okay”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Thank you, Nicola. Appreciate it. But some people didn't. And actually, I thought that that was going to be a huge threat. Like I thought that that was going to be really difficult for me to take. But actually, it isn't. And this is the point I'm trying to make. Just put it out there. Like, the most important thing is to get things done and know that, yes, it's not always going to go well.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, I don't. And I still struggle. But the key point to this is that you've got to do it anyway. Put in a book out into the world, for instance. It's the hardest thing to do, you know, and the writing it is so triggering for your perfectionism because you want it to be bulletproof and you want it to go out in the world and you worry all the time about the feedback's going to come after. You worry people are going to hate it. They're going to hate you. They're not going to like the book. I put it out into the world. I tried to make it as bulletproof possible. You know what, Nikolai, people still didn't like it. Right. Many people loved it.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So it's so, so important to know that the consequences of what you're so inferior of, like the imperfect person that you're living in fear of, you try not to make sure that doesn't get shattered. It's really not as bad as you think. When you put yourself out there, when you let things go, when you do a bad presentation, right? You're going to get feedback. And maybe it's not going to be very good, but actually let yourself go through those experiences. Be courageous in some ways to push yourself out there and do things a little bit out of your comfort zone because you'll find that actually it's okay.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But there are many different ways you can think about it from a personal perspective, but also from an organizational's perspective. Let's talk about it from a personal first. The key thing is to know that things aren't as bad as what you think they are in your mind. When we talk about the reluctance to let it go, perfectionists find it difficult to let things go. They find it difficult to push themselves into challenging situations. This is also one of the reasons, by the way, Fishers struggle to succeed in their careers because if they put themselves into a situation where they might be judged, like presentations or for job promotions, they kind of recoil from that because they don't, that fear is so paralyzing.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I think it's the challenge of people and organizations to find, as you mentioned, that sweet spot. Where's the sweet spot the moderation will be? Capturing that hard work and that perseverance, but we're also making sure that we're working smart too and that we're identifying what's working on the focusing and we're making sure that we can identify issues, challenges, setbacks, mistakes, and we can put them right. And that's the challenge. Everything in moderation.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Brit is an interesting, I like what Angela Duckworth has done with this aspect of character, purpose and perseverance. It's, I think it's been extremely helpful for a lot of people. Clearly, she's a bestselling author. People seem to resonate with this topic and can see that being gritty, resilient, being able to push past adversity, all these things are really positive for performance. But I would say also, Nicola, everything in moderation. There are times when sometimes it's not smart to persevere. You know, if a project is going down a dead end, it's really important you actually know when to quit. Know when to stop and move on to something else as well. So it's like anything. Perfectionism is kind of achievements for being taken to an extreme.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, of course. People who are conscientious, people who are diligent, people who are meticulous. Work exceptionally hard.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, they do work extremely hard, but again, it goes back to this paradox, right? They work extremely hard in certain circumstances.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“speaking in cloaking terms for those kinds of areas of productivity if you want well-being as opposed to just the bottom line.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“This is music to my ears because it's really nice to hear somebody like yourself talking these terms because I think this is a bit of a paradigm shift that needs to occur that actually you can get the focus really is on people, right? Like, you know, if you focus too much on productivity and profit margins and all the rest of it, then I think you can easily forget that There are people underneath those margins that are doing incredible work to make sure that the company grows year on year on year. But you've got to look after them. You've got to make sure they're in a safe, comfortable environment where they can feel free to express themselves, their ideas, take risks and the rest of it. I think there's a counterculture occurring, but it's slow to take off. And it's really nice to hear someone like yourself.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's really interesting. Yeah. And it's so important for someone like yourself to say that because I think right now we have a lay perception that, you know, you've got to push yourself to the nth degree and that you have to be relentlessly working in order to succeed. And actually what I hear you saying is that sometimes it isn't just about that almost unrelenting pursuit. Obviously, you need the hard work, of course you do, but also there's other aspects of getting to the top that all outside of that.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Do you think in your world that in order to be a CEO, like to get to the very, very top of what is a very elite profession that you have to have a little bit perfectionism? Because I don't sense in yourself that you have strong perfectionistic tendencies and yet here you are. So I'm wondering your take on this. Do you think it's necessary or do you think it's something you could do?”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Having your mind an ability to let things out into the world. Because that's the thing that stops perfectionistic people succeeding. It's an inability to just let it go. They differ, they procrastinate. They're over schedule. And of course, this has massive knock-on implications for the organization. Can I ask you a question? Yes. Because you were going to ask me a question here about CEOs. I'm really interested in that because I was like, oh, if you ask me that question, I wouldn't be able to answer it.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's really difficult to put a number on it because what is 80% good? Why is 90% git? I think the best way to think about it is this. Look, when you do any project at work. There's going to be hundreds of ways that are good enough. That's to say hundreds of ways you can reduce that project, that report that is good enough. That's to say that it hits the targets that provides the client with what they needed and gives some value back to the organization. Hundreds of ways that are good enough, but there is no perfect way. Because perfect is an impossible outcome. You can be iterating, you can be changing, you can be editing to the midnight. And all the while probably compromising the quality because you're starting to meddle with the things that we'll find, right? So it's really, really important to bear in mind, I think, in an organization that just letting things go when it's of a level that fulfills what's expected, the criteria of what's needed and the expectation of both the thermal, the client. That's the good enough moment to go out and then move on to the next thing and then move on to the next thing. It's so, so important to just.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“To take a day away from employees, but on those four days are they more focused? Are they coming to work rejuvenated? Are they coming to work with more productivity essentially? And seeing that in a lot of the experience the four-day week that it seems to be working that's to say you can get more for less. And again, that's one environment that I think says to people that we value your work, but we also value free time.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I can't think of a specific organization, but I know that a lot of organizations right now are wrestling with how to create cultures that are different to how they've been structured in the past. There's a kind of rank and yang, performance-based outcomes and all the rest of it. I know Google experimented with a very radical idea to pay people to fail, to give people money for taking chances and failing. I mean, that's very radical. But what that instilled is a readiness for people to take chances. And most of them aren't going to come off. But if one does, then that innovation, you know, could be the next multi-billion dollar technological tool. It could be Atom Bank is experimenting a four-day weekend as a four-day work week in the UK. Again, they're trying to figure out, can we get more from less? That's to say that, you know, yes, it sounds radical.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I think that's great. And also, it calibrates expectations from the very start. You know, if you put too much pressure on something flying from the get-go, there is so much that we can't control about these things too. And I think it's really important to make sure that if we want something to be successful, that we have realistic expectations of everybody on the team.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. Because the unknown, right? Like there's too much uncertainty there. You don't know if it's going to work. It's highly likely to fail. That's going to be really tough with effectively.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sandown to manage to try to create environments that don't emphasize or amplify those tendencies and that's our challenge I think it's about trying to cultivate the excellence that you talk about whilst also making sure that it's sustainable and that people can come to a vitalized happy rejuvenated all of which we know are really important for”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can work evenings, weekends, you can put yourself to all sorts of intolerable pressure. And you can find at the end of all of that that whilst you may be ostensibly successful in your career, that there is something that is taken from you in terms of your mental health, in terms of your time with family, friends, and all the rest of it. And so really, I think for me, it's about balance. It's about understanding that, yes, there are elements of this mindset if you want to call it that that are conducive to high performance and can elevate people. But there are also elements that we need to be extremely cognizant to.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, look, there's no doubt that there is a... There is a certain degree of perfectionism that I can understand firms looking for. It wouldn't necessarily be the fear that's conducive to the performance, but the anxiety that goes underneath some of the efficiency tendencies can push people really far. I push myself well beyond comfort in order to be where I am. But it came at great cost too. And while that's something that perhaps might be great for the organization or the firm, it is the short road to burn up for a lot of the individual employees that carry those tendencies into the workplace because it's not sustainable.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, Nicola, I think that's a question for you as much as it is for me because I'm an academic. I mean, I can tell you about cultures and organizations and certain practices that firms have employed that have been successful in addressing these issues. But I don't know what it's like to work in as organizations on a day-to-day basis. So maybe that's one for you. What do you think these kind of pressure does?”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But why were you miserable? Is it because you didn't like that culture and you wanted to get out of it? Or is it because of the fear that those cultures instilled about making mistakes? Or was it because it didn't create harmonious relationships?”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, I'll put that question to you. You obviously have an esteemed career. Have you worked in organizations where that hasn't been the case? That's to say that you felt under pressure to perform to a certain level and that mistakes have been punished and has that created a lot of anxiety in you? Is it easier for you to work in places where vulnerability is allowed when mistakes are allowed?”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's not a tool conducive to performance. That's not conducive to creativity. It's not conducive to innovation, which are things that companies and organizations really need today in a knowledge economy. So yes, I think one of the reasons why we don't see very strong links between perfectionism and performance is because perfectionists focus is on avoiding failure rather than shooting for success.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Another go right, you can redeem yourself. And what happens is people who aren't very perfectionistic will not really change their effort on the second occasion. In fact, they'll put a little bit more in. actually just people do the opposite they just completely withdraw themselves because they felt so ashamed and embarrassed of showing that weakness of not meeting that target that they will completely take themselves away so they don't feel those feelings again it's really an anxiety management technique taking ourselves away from the anxiety to not feel these things That's linked to avoidance, but it's also linked to things like procrastination, too. That's why perfectionism is so strongly correlated with procrastination, the avoidance of really difficult tasks. To manage the anxiety of thinking that we might not succeed this time.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there's a very interesting psychology among perfectionists, and this is something that we didn't expect to see when we did our studies. And yet it came back time and time again. And I've called it the perfectionistic paradox. Because what happens with perfectionistic people is that whenever you tell them to do something for the first time, they'll put everything of themselves into it. So this is why you see hard work and perseverance associated with perfectionism. These people work harder, they work more hours. In fact, perfection is probably correlating things like workaholism, for instance. We know they do these things. But the moment they encounter a challenge is when you see something really interesting happen. So perfectionistic people, when you put them in the lab, you give them something to do. And then at the end, you say, okay, you didn't quite achieve the success on this task, right? You failed, basically. But it doesn't matter.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, of course, that's not a very good way to cope. It certainly doesn't allow us to slow down. It certainly doesn't allow us to seek help. And those things we know are really important in order to recover from those stressful events. So perfection is a bit like anti-resilience in some ways. You know, it doesn't allow us to take setbacks and things that we can't control on the chin to absorb them, to let them in, to slow down when we need to. It makes us push past these things at all costs and that cost can be quite significant when it comes to our mental health.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because there's such an intent need to disguise hiding. The base motive for perfectionist people is to avoid showing any chink in the armory, to avoid failure, setback shortcomings. And they will avoid them to such an intense degree that they are happy to sabotage their chances of success. The primary motive is not to be seen to slip up, not to be seen to be vulnerable. And so, you know, when you move through the world with that focus and that priority, then of course when things go wrong, when you hit setbacks, which you will, when we encounter grief, heartbreak, things that are outside of our control, when a global pandemic comes along and makes things really tough, the perfectionist tries to push through those things, tries to put their foot harder on the accelerator, to try to use their perfections to overcome what's happening to them.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I mean, we have to be careful to extrapolate too much from the data, of course. All I've done is a big, very large. Piece of cohort analysis which is showing that perfections are rising over time. And what I'm trying to do in the book is say that perhaps there's something underneath that trend which tells us about these more observable outcomes that we're seeing in society, i.e. the links between And I've talked about why those things are linked. But I think also we have to be very careful that there are lots of factors at play. And I think perfectionism might be one of very many.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure, sure, yeah. Yeah, there's a lot of research to show that social media can undermine happiness, particularly overuse of social media. The more time you're on there, the less happy you are. That's what the data seems to be suggesting. But I think we have to also be very careful to extrapolate from that the social media is universally bad. Like I think there are very enlivening parts of social media that we need to hold on to, you know, bringing bringing about community, sharing interests, finding out news and bits of information that perhaps we wouldn't have had access to ordinarily. These are really important things. But there is certainly the comparative element of social media, you know, that very visual comparative element that I think is part of the problem.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“somehow we must be flawed deficient imperfect and of course that intensifies these perfectionistic tendencies so look i've no doubt that social media is certainly a key piece to the rising socially prescribed perfectionism but as i write in my book i think there are other broader macroeconomic factors which i think we also have to bear in mind when it comes to pressures on young people and those pressures being internalized as excessive And in order to survive, in order to feel like they matter or have worth in that society, it's important to be perfect. And I think that's what we're seeing in the data.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, social media creates a scrambled reality, a hyper reality, so to speak, where everybody is curating perfect lives and lives into which we feel like we have to conform, we have to match, right? Like what we see around us is this kind of limitless aura of perfection. And so we not only feel that that's desirable, i.e. that's how we should be living too, should be living, but also that it's eminently obtainable because everybody else seems to have this luxurious life and lifestyle, attractive, fit, healthy, productive, and all the rest of it. And that if we don't match those excessive expectations, those warped expectations, that there must be something wrong with us.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I think so. But I think certainly there's no doubt about it that that data is significant in terms of social media platforms being transported into our last 24-7. No escape from limitless images of perfect lives and lifestyles that are beamed at us almost 24-7.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, there was a lot of things going on. Of course, the economy crashed. We entered into a quite deep recession. So opportunities dwindled. Young people found it harder to get into the workplace. There was more competition for college places. So we start to see an acceleration of societal pressure, which makes life difficult. The response to the crisis, of course, was lower interest rates, money printing, which pushed asset prices higher, which means rents and property became more expensive. So young people found it more difficult to set up stability. You also had technology start to take off at this time too. And we had iPhone, for instance, released the, sorry, Apple released the iPhone in 2007.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Exactly, and this is the exact form of perfectionism that we're seeing rise really, really sharply. It's very widespread. It's on an exponential curve, which means it's rising very fast and will continue to rise even faster into the future if we don't do something about it”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A lot of shame, a lot of embarrassment, a lot of guilt when we have shown a chink in the armoury. So social prescribe affectionism certainly is very live right now.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Come from the immediate people around us, or it can just come from the environment more generally. It's just a lens through which we view the world, which tells us that everybody's watching, they expect flawless performances. And if I don't meet up to those high and excessive expectations, then they're waiting to pounce. They're coming for me. They're going to criticize. And so socially prescribed infectionism is perhaps the most extreme form of perfectionism in some ways. It's certainly got the strongest correlation with serious mental health issues. And I don't think there's any surprise there if we're constantly feel like we're under surveillance with being watched, then we're going to go through the world concealed and hiding, avoiding. feeling exceptionally self-conscious.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So prescribed perfectionism is perfectionism that comes from the outside. So, yes, perfectionist people want to be perfect for their own end. And yes, sometimes they can reject those expectations onto others. But also there's a sense in the perfectionistic people that other people have the same expectations that I have on myself. For me, so”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Boundaries a little bit in terms of what's possible. And all of that, of course, is not conducive to high performance or harmonious relationship. So I have no, it doesn't surprise me that 75% of people leave because of their bosses. I think it's quite stifling. And when we're in environments that allow us to flourish and take risks and take chances and fail, we feel a lot happier, more engaged.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It creates in us a sense that, okay, well, we've got to do everything at 100%. We have to do everything perfectly, essentially. Every single job, every single email, every single project, every single presentation has to be absolutely nailed to the satisfaction of our bosses. And if we slip up, there's going to be problems. And of course, you know, we are human beings. We're imperfect. We do make mistakes. We fall sure. And that's the whole part of the learning process. Nobody comes into a job bulletproof. And I think if you create a culture where mistakes are punished and people feel very fearful at failing, then you create a lot of reluctance to take risks, to be creative, to push”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think so. I mean, when people feel like they're under surveillance all the time, when if they make a mistake, there's going to be ramifications, sometimes quite severe.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Buy a sense that if we don't get it quite perfect, we make a mistake, then it's going to come down on us like a ton of bricks. And so I think, yes, overall, it's probably something to be avoided.”
2023-11-01 · In Good Company with Nicolai Tangen · Thomas Curran: Perfectionism: The Power Of Good Enough In A World That Always Wants More · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, I would say so. Yeah, there's a lot of high profile people who I would say have had other oriented perfectionistic tendencies. Steve Jobs, for instance, pioneering entrepreneur, turned Apple's fortunes around, clearly a hugely successful guy, but also a perfectionistic person. And testimony from ex-colleagues have described him as having exceptionally high standards and not being able to tolerate when things haven't gone quite to plan. And that, of course, is... Had some good benefits, but it also had some negative effects in the workplace around Apple. And I think that's important to bear in mind that our oriented perfectionism can drive in an organization exceptionally high standards, a culture of exceptionally high standards, but it does so by fear.”
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“Well, the other oriented perfectionism is really perfectionism turned outwards. I suppose it's what Freud would call projection, right? So you've got this idea of I'm... Myselves over hot coals to be perfect. And I'm very self-critical when I haven't met that high standard. So it's only fair that everyone around me is going to have to carry those same expectations, the same pressures with them, right? Like this is just a moral question in the mind of the other oriented perfectionist, which is fine. And I'm sure we've all experienced another oriented perfectionist, very high demands, can't tolerate substandard performances and let people know when they haven't performed up to their standard. But it's not necessarily conducive to harmonious relationships, see a lot of relationships avoiding perfectionism and interpersonal conflict, for example, in the workplace. It can create tension, in personal relationships. It also can create dissatisfaction with expectations that we're placing on other people that are unrelenting. So yeah, it's an interesting form of perfectionism, probably the least well researched, but certainly...”
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