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Thomas Tull

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  1. “Oh my god, I mean, BB plays five notes and just kills it in the emotion that it evokes. So I just. Was just an awe of the instrument. And I also, there's always somebody. Around who's a musician that just picks the instrument up and can play, right? And they're just so talented at it and they can just listen to a record and play that that was never me. I never took formal lessons. I had to grind to just make it sound like I wanted it to sound.”

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  2. “Just the coolest instrument, right? I mean, when you watched back then. And I was kind of an old soul. I was listening at a fairly young age to muddy waters Robert Johnson, Light and Hopkins, B.B. King, and just the soulfulness.”

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  3. “Is just, you know, and to this day, when I listen to the studio version and Mary Clayton just comes on and sings that epic, iconic part. And there's a documentary that was done about backup singers phenomenal. And it tells the story of that moment and that song with Mary Clayton. And it's just, uh, Her voice and the way it unfolded, they got her out of bed at like 10 o'clock at night in LA. And she's like, The Rolling Stones, and went in and just killed it. And I can't sing at all. I'm by ordinance not around a microphone. So I'm always in awe when someone can sing like that. But, you know, those are some of my favorite Rolling Stone songs. painted blacks awesome. I mean, I could go on. Yeah, I painted.”

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  4. “Probably my favorites. I love sympathy for the devil. It's a very, I don't know, sort of Faustian. I love the lyrics. I love how the almost a voodoo beat just kind of builds throughout the song. That's always been one of my favorites.”

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  5. “You know, maybe we're both at this age, but I'm a lot older than you are, vice versa, and he just, I think it's the combination of raw talent and the ability, and he's very smart, right? Like he's understands how to have interaction with the crowd and hold him in the palm of his hand and be an entertainer. But then on top of that, the reason he can at this age run around stadiums and be just as energetic is he puts the work in. And that's one thing step that I think a lot of people miss sometimes where they want that magic trick. They want to know what's the shortcut. Most of the time, the answer is there's no shortcut.”

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  6. “I got to tell you something. I mean, the funny thing is wherever there is excellence, people want to know, how'd you do it? Right now, what's the secret Not only is Mick Jagger, and I think the songs that Keith Richards and Mick Jagger wrote together, if you go back and listen to the lyrics. Just incredibly poignant, and I'm just huge Stones fan. But he works out like a maniac, right? And it's that 10,000 hours thing. And it's that, hey, maybe I don't feel my best today, but I'm going to get up and do my routine and work out so that at his age, which, you know, I mean, you can look at people at different ages chronologically that are”

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  7. “Arenas are the perfect blend. I had to say because it's loud, and 20,000, 30,000 people, but like right up. Right up on you. A stadium look playing the stadiums with the Rolling Stones, it just is going to go on the head mark or somewhere. One of the more, you know, I say this, and I really mean it. My life is like a punked episode that just hasn't, no one's burst in yet Yeah, it's as cool as you think it is.”

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  8. “But, you know, what's different about it, and each venue is different. So if you, we went on the road with ZZ Top a few years ago, which was incredible. Love Billy Gibbons. He's a Texan. Incredible person and guitar player. But, you know, when you're playing in like five to 7,000 seats, it's really, I mean, it's, you know, you're right there with them, with the crowd. And then when you play in an arena, we toured with Bob Seeger on his last tour, which was cool. Played some shows with him. And again, the arena, they're all kind of packed on top of you and it's super loud, which was cool, meaning the crowd is stadiums is a completely different animal. And it's just a completely different experience.”

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  9. “Listen, the first time we did it, and there's nobody in the stadium, first time I ever played in the stadium, and I'm just like. I'm out there in front and just hitting different chords and playing different licks. And I'm like, it's like I won a contest and I get to do this.”

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  10. “No, it's producing the sound. Like putting earpods in and listening to a song, and you're playing to it, right? It's just us playing, but it protects your ears. The energy from the crowd when they get going and get into it, which knock on wood so far has been amazing, there's nothing like it. I mean, it's just this bi-directional thing that happens. And music was kind of, music and sports were, you know, kind of my first loves. It's, yeah, it's very difficult to describe, I think, accurately. Because it's like no other feeling”

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  11. “Know stadiums are interesting just because it's so big and cavernous and because you want to protect your ears. So we use an in ear system so that you are a little disconnected from the crowd because if you're playing that loud and you're standing in front of your amps without ear protection, that's bad.”

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  12. “But what's been great is just an amazing reception. And we have this guy named Trey Nation, who's the lead singer, is just. Incredibly talented. I mean, he's just not only an amazing voice, but just has that charismatic thing”

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  13. “Yeah, I mean, you definitely don't want to screw it up. I think the band, our band is tight-knit and all that stuff. And I think that you, the individual nervousness dissipates when you go out as a group and you're making music together and you sort of, okay, we're all in this and we're doing a thing, which is why even in sports, I always look at individual events like ice skating or anything where it's just you out there alone. That's different than being with a team and nerve wracking. So I'm sure if it was me with an acoustic guitar just going out, it would feel different. But absolutely you get the right kind of butterflies, I would call it. And just the energy of playing music and having it be this relationship. And you, and look, I get it. I've been to a ton of concerts where I'm like, look, can we just get to the band, please?”

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  14. “So it's been amazing. We got to play with them in 2019. And when they asked us to do this again, it's just an absolute privilege.”

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  15. “Just because they're my favorite band of all time. To me, the greatest rock and roll band, it's not even close of all time. And, you know, to share the same stage, to be on tour and to go out and get that energy from the crowd. And every night and come off stage and later when they go on and you hear that iconic, ladies and gentlemen, the Rolling Stones. And then it's incredible. And what's amazing to me about the band, next year will be their 60th anniversary. 60 years. And it's hard to be around anything for that long, but making music and packing stadiums. And what's amazing to me, they can play a two-hour set. And it's not just that, oh, that's a hit or you recognize it. It's like every song is an anthem, right?”

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  16. “Understand things are going to happen, and I'm going to let you know about them, and we're going to try to solve them together. And then just in terms of the idea, I always ask like, okay, if this company executed the way, that's the other thing that always cracks me up about financials. Whenever somebody pitches you, inevitably they'll say, our projections are really, really conservative. I'm still waiting for somebody to come in and say, look, my projections are wildly optimistic. We'll never hit these numbers. But anyway. If this company did what it says and executes and does it matter? Does it move the needle enough? And what are the things that uniquely position this company to be successful? And you just have to be able to answer, I think, a number of those questions pretty crisply.”

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  17. “Look, I wasn't there, so I don't know. But I think if you unpack many situations that turned out negatively, most of the people, whether you're faking lab results, right, you have a biotech company. We have everybody staring at Theros these days. Do I think in a lot of cases you're either the villain, like you started out saying I'm going to screw my shareholders over and I'm going to be a liar. That isn't my experience. Most things are little incremental moves that you say, we're going to get this right next week, but today we got to make the presentation. So we're going to just tweak things a little bit. That's a slippery slope, right? And so that's why I think from a standpoint of people, You want to go into the foxhole with folks that”

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  18. “Okay, now I'm sitting up. You have my full attention. We're going to talk about whatever it is. Bad news should travel faster than good news. And because it's going to happen being in business with someone that is going to shoot you straight. And sometimes say, I don't know. I don't know what the answer is. I got to go figure it out. That I can process a lot better than look, I don't want you mad at me or disappointed or I can't handle not having success. So we're just going to kick the can. And I think especially in today's business environment, that's very, very dangerous.”

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  19. “You didn't anticipate are going to happen. How pliable are you, right? How much elasticity is there in your ability to be successful? And I think It's important when you invest in something that you both see, you understand the roadmap ahead and agree to it, right? It doesn't mean there won't be twists and turns, but you're not like, whoa, wait a minute. What did we do here? This isn't what was in the thing I signed up for. And then I think honesty and communication is a huge thing to me. I always tell people if bi-directionally If there's something going on, start the conversation with Lex, we have a problem.”

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  20. “Well, if I had any kind of a lattice work on this, it absolutely starts with the people. And I think the reason for that is your business plan is going to change, right? There's very few businesses I know of that say, we're going to make a widget in this location and 30 years later we're successful and we just make a widget. And that's what it is. Things happen, right? And today they happen with such velocity. That you have to be able to make Hard decisions based on imperfect information? And are you How self interested are you going to be? What kind of ethics will you apply? What's your short term versus long term thinking? Are you able to give an honest assessment of a situation? Because the thing that you can count on is problems are going to happen.”

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  21. “I'm dead serious. We think about it from the standpoint of. What could we do in this situation that later we'd be like, that was a really dumb thing to do? And I actually thought that was it got in my head. And I still think a lot about that as I'm dissecting problems.”

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  22. “That are good businesses over time are going to get there. So I'm not going to day trade. I'm not just going to, I'm looking for value. And then just on life stuff, he just, you know, and also his ability to take in and then use information was incredibly impressive. So I only spent the, you know, I'd met him before, but I only spent one afternoon with him, but it's pretty incredible. And one of the things that stuck out to me is we were in the middle of talking about telco or investing or how we thought about it. And I said, you know, I'm trying to be smart about. And he stopped me and he said, Charlie Munger, his partner of many years, Charlie and I don't try to think of the smart thing to do. We try to think, what's the dumb thing we could do here? And I kind of laughed and he said, no.”

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  23. “Well, the afternoon that I got to spend with him, which is something I'll treasure forever look, sometimes when you meet people, even that are immensely successful. You may decide that after 20 minutes or a half hour, oh, you were in the right place at the right time. And that's fine. There are other people that are clearly different special, and I don't care if you made them start from zero would end up in a good place. And so it was an absolute privilege to spend the time with him. And a couple of things that stood out in the conversation, he is incredibly intellectually curious and well read. And I like how simplistic he likes to keep his thought matrix. And then also, instead of trying to outsmart the market. It seems like a simple axiom, but just look, good companies that are led by talented managers”

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  24. “Absolutely. I mean, you can look through history and great things are done by great people, right? And companies, they end up over time becoming a logo and immediately what you think of them. But they started out with a person, with an idea and a team that cultivated that and made that happen. And I think there are certain folks that are just immensely talented that if you can be around them, and I also know his and his team's ethics in terms of, you know, after spending time talking about where the lines are. People in other countries that may not have the same process, may not have the same checks and balances are doing this and pursuing this regardless. So at least I felt like with George and Ben and their teams, they're also very responsible people.”

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  25. “Well, I met this fascinating guy at Harvard named George Church. Five, six years ago, and found him to be incredibly smart, have an imagination. And he partnered up with a guy named Ben Lamb, who's an entrepreneur. And basically the press and to me the imaginative, like you're capturing my imagination by telling me you're going to bring back the Woolly Mammoth and other extinct animals. And we'll see where that road leads. I was more interested in an investor in the things that they're working through around understanding genes in a more in proteins and CRISPR and all these other things because being adjacent to George Church and his team as these things unfold over the next decade, I thought was the right thing to do.”

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  26. “If you're at a certain point in life with young children and you got a mortgage and whatever else, that is one circumstance versus I just got out of Stanford or I just got out of whatever and I'm going to go for it. It's just the whole thing, right? It is complex, as you point out. And sometimes you just want to have the right matrix in your head of decision-making process to try to arrive at the right place. And even if you get close, that's where I think you say, you know what, the hell with it. I'm doing this.”

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  27. “Well, and I think each one of those instances that you could probably cite has its own unique circumstances, right? I don't have a deep biotech background. So if I suddenly stood up and said, I'm going to put everything I have into this idea, well, Those are game theory, right? What are the odds of success? If, on the other hand, you're brilliant in your field or you've seen some opportunity that you think is wide open and you're going to go for it and break stuff, that's great. You just want to wait to me, always say like, how crazy is this on the spectrum of do I have any expertise? What is the downside if I fail?”

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  28. “The key whether you're starting a business or you're thinking about leaving the company you're at and starting a business or just leaving for another job, any of these things is as much as you can, right? And psychologists, I think, would tell us it's hard to be self-aware completely, right? That's the rub, that if we were all completely self-aware of everything that we did and strengthened weaknesses, it'd be a different world. But I do think you can work on that and at least challenge yourself to think about it and not be in a position where I'm, you know, I'm going to medical school because that's what you do in my family. And even though I'm miserable doing it, things like that.”

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  29. “Yes, without all human things are complicated. And I think there's a difference between being reckless and making well thought out informed decisions. If you're going to go all in, make sure you've measured twice, cut once, as they say. And one of my other favorite, I forget many years ago, I heard this saying and it stayed with me. It was never mistake clear line of sight with distance. And so I think that.”

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  30. “And go inside your own head and say, What am I good at? What am I not good at? How am I going to put myself in a position to be successful? Because, you know, I'm working on my weaknesses, but I'm not going to put myself career-wise in a position where I'm just fundamentally going to have a hard time being successful.”

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  31. “Based on places you don't want to go, but you know, you're either, you feel like momentum is taking you there. I think that's a big problem. And there are people that go to our top universities and can't wait to get out and start their own company and they want that pressure and they want to grind. And there are other people that are smart and talented, but just say, look, I don't want to lay awake staring at the ceiling wondering how I'm going to make payroll. I don't want that in my life. And I think if you can square that up and be okay with it and say what makes me tick, what makes me happy? What puts me in a bad headspace? Because there's a difference between challenging yourself and going against your nature. So that's why I think that being intellectually honest and being able to really sit down.”

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  32. “I also think a lot about being intellectually honest, which when I do university talks and so forth, I think that's a superpower because if you find yourself making decisions based on other people's expectations,”

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  33. “By getting up. You know, I think. For me personally, trying to push the envelope and being weighed and measured, right? That's why I always love sports too. There's a scoreboard. And I'm a huge believer in opportunity meritocracy, all those things that I think are ideals that we want to aspire to. And I think that There's a lot of things I'm involved with right now that I just want to see if I can do it. I want to see if and my own little mantra has cause the out As much as you can, and at the same time have the humility and not to have the hubris or arrogance to say, I'm always going to cause the outcome. Because you'll get your ass kicked pretty quickly and humbled the world and the universe is a big place with forces beyond. But I think”

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  34. “I think. The Say, I'm not in the mood to do this. I don't want to do this, but that's the work that needs to be done. And no excuses. Not I'm a victim and I'm going to sit around and talk about, no, it is what it is and you have to get done what you need to get done. And again, I think it's. You can never fully put yourself in someone else's shoes or experience. I don't know what that is or feels like. But for me, those were two, I think, formative things that were important in my childhood.”

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  35. “Yeah, even though the university and college experience was not part of the family tree, And we had no connections. I didn't understand, I didn't know what a trust fund was or prep school. I didn't know what any of that was. But my mom from a young age would always say, you know, you're going to go to college. There's no, you know, if you choose to, and I think from a young age, that was just an expectation that I had and that she instilled and the work ethic. I watched her. And then my grandmother was a janitor, a cleaning lady in a hospital for 50 years. And then I remember there were times of, you know, I'm probably 10 years old. It's freezing cold out. And if I don't go out and shovel six driveways, we don't have enough money to pay the bill. So I don't know. I'm not a psychologist, so I don't know how that manifests itself in my life today.”

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  36. “They're doing some pretty innovative groundbreaking things. And those are the things that I like doing, right? Is that Yes, I want to make money. Just, you know, that's what that is. But at the same time, what did you do with your time on Earth? Did you do anything to leave any kind of mark that you did anything interesting? I can only speak for myself. There are many more ways to measure one's life, and I can only speak about how I think about things. I grew up poor in upstate New York with a single mom and watched her work a couple jobs and, you know, had to, from a young age, shovel snow and mow lawns and do all kinds of things to help her make sure the lights weren't turned off in our little place. And so that's just something that I've always been driven towards. And, you know, I just have really eclectic tastes and interests.”

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  37. “And one of the things that struck me, the founder, CEO of Accur, is a guy named Greg Williams. They're out of Grand Rapids, Michigan. And as we were looking at expanding our footprint and insurance, I met with a lot of insurance executives. And they would talk about technology. But Greg truly understood the power of what would happen across actuarial sciences, you know, predictive analytics and using machine learning to really run every aspect of your business and then automating a lot of just the back office tedious steps. And as you said, one of the things that was great for us, they already had a data collection system and department. So it was much easier to pivot. And, you know, I'm very excited about the future of that company.”

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  38. “We have a company called Akashure, which should say i lab and base is down here in Austin, Texas. It was an insurance, one of the largest insurance brokers in the world. And, you know, we did a deal with them and sold some of our insurance holdings. It was completely AI driven. And in that case, you basically put the team inside the company because it's a massive company with all, and we've gone into all kinds of things. So it just depends on the different situations. But the biggest... They had access to the talent. Sometimes we'd build it, sometimes we'd help recruit for it. You know how in technology, it's whatever works, right? There's no One way to do things”

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  39. “There's different examples. So one of our companies, FIGS, makes healthcare workwear started by these two brilliant women and early days helping to build the platform and recruit and make sure that everything that we did at the company embraced technology and at the same time they were obsessive about their customer, which is doctors, nurses, healthcare workers who are putting it on the line every day and obsessive about their product. And when you have those two things come together, you get the result that we did at FIGS.”

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  40. “And the ramifications, if things go sideways and so forth. And I think those are all appropriate conversations to be having. AI is happening. I think it's actually happening slower than most people realize. Because there are tasks that humans do every minute of every day standing up without losing your sense of balance. These are really hard things, but I think there's enough investment both in private industry as well as nation states now on artificial intelligence that it is coming.”

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  41. “It might take away a job, but is it a good job for that person? Spending 30 years doing something highly repetitious, is that a good experience in life? So I think, and then when you think about everything from military applications, you know, rescue, we're already seeing a bunch of those things. And then just lastly, when you talk about that human interaction with robots, When you start to have the combination, so you have some level of intelligence and interaction, that's why we always love the droids and Star Wars, right? I mean, it's exciting. It captures the imagination. And I think, look, many, many hours have been spent on debating artificial intelligence.”

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  42. “Well, robotics to me is an extremely exciting field. I don't have the same expertise that you do. I have an adjacency, but not the depth of knowledge have never really delved deeply into it or made investments in it. But I think what's exciting about it is everything from doing jobs that are very dangerous for humans, enhancing the human experience. When you look at really repetitive labor things that”

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  43. “Yeah, and I think where technology is the most efficient is the human machine interface. It's not let's automate everything and have nobody work anywhere. A long time that's neither feasible nor desirable, but where we can enhance jobs and make that interface immensely productive with the right training and so forth, I think that's a worthwhile endeavor and something that's going to be important to our country.”

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  44. “Don't make any sense to me, but being self reliant and self determinant and making sure that you are never in a position as a nation that we can't do basic things because we're relying on supply chain in other countries and whether it's not friends anymore or a natural disaster or a virus or something pops up. I think those are costs of doing business that we have to put into the calculus of being able to make things here.”

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  45. “America needed to make sure that it didn't lose its edge in that way. So it's a company that invests in American high-tech manufacturing. And I think the way that we do that is provide capital, provide training. To me, this is also fertile ground for good, sustainable, high-paying jobs. And we have to make it economically feasible to do that again here in this country and not to say to companies that, again, are being weighted and measured quarter by quarter, hey, this is three times as expensive to do it here, but you should do it here. We need to innovate and we need to create processes and companies and opportunity that balance that equation. And I think as we saw during the pandemic, I don't think in this day and age you can be an Isolationist.”

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  46. “There's a company that I have a big personal investment in called Rebuild with some folks that all went through the MIT school years ago. There's a good friend of mine named Jeff Wilkie who used to be at Amazon. And we all felt the same way that”

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  47. “No question about it. And I, you know, I'm passionate about our country making stuff again, right? Doing our own manufacturing and making sure that we don't lose the ability not just to create things intellectually and do the world's greatest blueprints, but actually make things here. Actual facts.”

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  48. “Still teaching, but that place is like Hogwarts. I mean, it's just inspiring. And certainly the energy in Silicon Valley, which now Austin, Texas, where we're sitting. Has its own incredible Ecosystem. So that's one of the things I love about America is the ability. And that really is, I think, in the American DNA to create things and invent things. And I think that's invigorating.”

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  49. “This country innovates and this country invents things. And I'm constantly in awe of just the The human ability to innovate and to iterate, I get to hang around some universities, including your old shop MIT. And it's like...”

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  50. “Well, look, we certainly are not by any means the only one doing it. I'm just saying that when you think about big companies, the more successful that are in old line businesses, and I hear people sort of talk about, well, why can't they just pivot? They recognize they need to be in the technology business. Well, because it's hard. It's hard to steer a ship and turn it that big, and especially if it's not part of your DNA at that company. So, you know, I just think that what we tried to do is to enable Management teams that know where they want to go and to be patient with capital and also, again, bring in to bear that they have access to. There's plenty of capital structures doing interesting things. That's one of the things I love about our country.”

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