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Tim Phillips

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  1. If you It's never easy to beat an incumbent president who hasn't faced a primary, but that's the best match I can think of at the moment. It's a tough one. And in 2008, we really did not get that involved. We were a newer entity at that point. So it's not a foregone conclusion that we're going to dive into every presidential race. And at this point, we are. We're staying out. We would need to see two things. And they're straightforward things. One is genuinely movement toward a more prosperity focused free market vision on entitlement reform, government spending, government cronyism, these issues, free trade. And two, a tone that is more uplifting. And this isn't electoral advice, but we just tend to look at getting involved where there is more of an uplifting tone.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  2. We disagree with him on a number of the issues and we've talked about those. We, as an organization, are staying out at this point. In 2012, we were involved in advocating the defeat in an express advocacy fashion of Barack Obama. We failed. It was a tough loss for us. Yes, I was there. Yeah, thanks a lot, pal.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  3. Or fundraising, that too, amen, you're right. That's exactly right. It took us years to make progress. But you know, the last two years in Florida, we stopped stadium funding deals running into the hundreds of millions for the Miami Dolphins, a Tampa Bay buccaneers, and the Orlando Soccer team. We also ended, at least for now, it's a battle, funding for Hollywood studios to make movies in Florida some of the richest corporations in the world. They shouldn't be getting that. Where we started from five years ago, it seemed hopeless, but we kept working on it, kept digging on it, and we're finally seeing victories. North Carolina on the film front as well, we've had some successes. So again, a strong, credible platform, a message that is incisive and shows the benefits and the woes if you don't do it, and then applied over a long period of time. Those are the three keys.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  4. etc We started taking on that issue about five or six years ago in earnest at America's for prosperity. And we got nowhere, even within the Republican Party, because there it's CENAS economic development, right?

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  5. You better have an infrastructure that is credible as a platform. And we're working to build that at Americans for prosperity and not just us. I hope our movement is doing it as well. But you've got to be credible. And one way to be credible is to be in those communities over a long period of time. So you better have a credible platform. Secondly, you better have a succinct message that explains the benefits of it. And I think on both fronts, we, and this is a royal week, we haven't really had that as much. And then third, you better be about the business of delivering your message from that credible platform over a long period of time. And I'll give you an example of that happening. Government cronyism. Now, we would define that as government picking winners and losers using our tax dollars or the tax code of the regulatory code, whether it's export, import bank, or whether it's money for NFL stadiums, et cetera.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  6. Well, I think two or three things you better have if you're going to turn it back the way it needs to be toward greater free trade and which keeps prices down, gives consumers choices. I mean, I think about all the benefits of it. Yeah, but people have answered.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  7. Bernie Sanders has made this the core of his campaign. Just on that point, I remember Naphta, and I remember about I was on Capitol Hill we were talking about before the show started, and I was a chief of staff on the hill when NAFTA started kind of popping. And the same arguments that the left and some on the right used to try to stop NAFTA. And that was a bipartisan effort in the end. The arguments are the same. And I think when you look back at NAFTA, it's been a winner for the country.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  8. Yeah, there are certain issues that are just easier to demagogue than others, and trade is one, because those who espouse a more populous view or anti free trade view can pick out villains that automatically are easier to pick out some foreign person supposedly taken their job or others. It's easier to point to a villain.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  9. And it's a challenge for them, whether it's that Trumpism which on economic issues like free trade and on entitlement reform, in my view, are wrong. They're drifting away from what I believe has been a cohesiveness that's been good for the Republican Party because it's philosophically sound. So I look at some of the Trump issues. I look at some of the battles between evangelicals or Christian rights and perhaps the more libertarian oriented side. But that cohesion is important for a party. But when you have a two-party system, there's always going to be that tension. And I think it makes us better overall as a nation, though.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  10. On the climate change. He wants to run for governor and good for him, if that helps get a nomination in California. But suddenly he's all about the environment over the last few years. And I look at what he's doing to allow the trade unions. And they have a right to be horrified at the direction of the Democrat Party. On the Republican side, we certainly have some conflicts and battles. I hope we work through them. I'm speaking personally not for AFP, David. I want to be very clear here. Yeah, right. But I do. I hope Republicans work through those.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  11. The folks like my mom and dad. Is a dramatic difference, and I know the unions have even written a letter saying to this Tom Steyer guy, who is kind of a limousine guy who is a billionaire from California.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  12. I look at our system here which dramatically favors a two party system, which I think is better, David. I look at the instability in Europe and in other countries a lot of times in South America where you have our Central America as well. You'll have 8, 10, 12, 15 parties and they're more cohesive. Absolutely they're more cohesive. But they lead to instability because they have to build coalitions of parties once you're in power that there just isn't a level of comfort and working together. And so I think our system is better and more stable and has helped our nation grow because it is a two-party system. Now that means there's going to be tension within the Democrat Party and the Republican Party. I don't think that the tension on our side is any greater and the issue golf any wider than on the left. I think about the environmental movement which I view as extreme and what they want.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  13. I have not. I focus on the, they are very much, they're MIT trained engineers, and they keep you on task very well. And so when I've spoken to them in most cases, it's just about, hey, what are we doing as part of the mission of Americans for prosperity to accomplish it?

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  14. I know at Americans for Prosperity and across the broader network that we're a part of, but I'll just speak for Americans for prosperity, we focus, as you know, on economic issues. And I'm passionate about those. I'm wholly in agreement that economic freedom is the best path to prosperity and to genuinely lifting people up. And so I feel not just comfortable but passionate about the issues as an organization we espouse and fight for. On a personal level, I have views on other issues that are in keeping with my evangelical faith. I'm a very active member of a cornerstone chapel church in northern Virginia. And there, I'll volunteer my time. I'll espouse my views with my family. But that's what I do on a personal front. And so I feel like...

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  15. But I did the internship. They placed me in the Reagan administration. I had no contacts. I mean, I would never have gotten that. So I got to go to Washington. David opened up my eyes. I met people who were in it and got, I had some raw background in it, but didn't really understand it. And I was blessed to meet people, Morton Blackwell, Leadership Institute, became a mentor, found my wife that way, and now 32 years later, thank the good Lord above, we're still together.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  16. That's exactly right. What really propelled it though for me was my faith and still is today I'm an evangelical Christian. And so in the mid-80s, Jerry Falwell Sr. was starting to, no, had already become very aggressively involved in the political structure. I was inspired by that as a Christian. My mom would always, my brother was a pastor. My sister married a pastor, and my other sister became a domestic missionary working within unchurched parts of the country. And then the youngest of the family comes up, Timbo, and I go, Mom, I want to do politics. She cried for like a week. How did we go wrong? What happened? And so, but I was inspired by, hey, look, people have all of our faith need to be in the arena, just like everyone should be in the arena for their beliefs. And so that propelled me. So I did my internship through liberty. It was liberty Baptist College at the time, now Liberty University.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  17. My first job was a paper route, and I had a mill village route, and so mill villages, we had a big textile mill that employed pretty much everybody, and little houses all around it, and I had a paper out that serviced that mill village. It was Jackson Mill. And so when I was a fifth, sixth, seventh, eighth grade, I would collect the money. It was $1.15 a week. And then, you know, I forget what it was. You got a little bit of a break if you paid by the whole month. So every Thursday and Friday afternoon, I'd be out collecting. Mom would drop me off and I'd be out collecting. And the four o'clock shift would blow. And you would see people starting about 3.40 kind of heading into the mill and that four heading out. And David, I remember seeing those folks and it was good honorable work, by the way. I just remember thinking, you know, I don't know what I want to do, but I want to do something that makes a difference. And again, I respect the work, so please don't take that the wrong way. I want to do something with my career maybe that made a difference, you know.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  18. That's right. And my dad stayed Democrat until 2000. And I was working for George W. Bush in the South Carolina, well, we were vendors to the campaign. Ralph Reed now were in business together and we were vendors, consultants. We weren't on the campaign officially. And South Carolina was a state. Obviously, I knew a little bit. Ralph knew it very well as well. We were active there. And I never, you know, it was after the New Hampshire primary and McCain had, you know, lit it up. And I finally went to my dad and I said, Dad, you know, mom, if you guys don't help me here, Timbo's in trouble and come and help me out in the upstate's the key. And so they end up voting in a primary Republican primary for the first time.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  19. Timmy, or Timbo. Timbo, do you know what you just said? Jimmy Carter is running for reelection. He's a Southern Baptist. We were Southern Baptist. In case you forgot, he's a Southerner. Carter, we were Southerners. And he's a Democrat. You're a Democrat, son. My dad was a Democrat, and I'm not kidding. It was a big deal. But I became passionate about Reagan. There was no real party, so to speak, that mattered, but I got active at my local high school, just kind of on my own. And I was hooked. And later on, I got to be an intern in 84 in the Reagan administration, which was in a tiny way. I was a sophomore in college, but I got to be an intern in the Gippers administration. So it was cool for me. Yeah.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source

  20. Yeah, well, that's right. So you're like a kid. And I'll never forget this. This guy comes on. He's talking about of all issues, the Panama Canal. Now, I don't know, I've been 14 years old, but we were a political family, blue-collar political family. We're interested. We're watching Walter. And that guy talks about how, you know, I forget what he said. I barely remember the issue, frankly. And after the segment was over, I go to my dad, Dad, I'm going to be for that guy. And my dad goes for Ronald Reagan. He did something he never did. This was before the remote. He had to get up off the couch to turn the TV off. He turned the TV. I'll never forget this. Sat back down and went,

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  21. That's right, Liatwater, famous or infamous, depending on your point of view. Yes. He really, with Carol Campbell, the guy who became the congressman for the upstate governor, they founded the modern Republican Party in South Carolina. It began in that late 70s and early 80s, and it was a raging war in South Carolina until the late 80s when the state turned red at the top. And then it took another decade for the state legislature. So this would have been the 70s. I'm 51. So it would have been in the 70s. And what really turned me, though, to Republicanism and conservative politics was Ronald Reagan. My dad and I were watching Walter Cronkite. I'm dating myself. I get it. I know. I know.

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  22. Really? You're kidding? Well, he got a job on the WPA, and so he named Little Frankie after FDR, his hero. And my dad and my granddad were both in the old Democrat machine. They would drive people to polls. They would work different boxes, what we call precincts back then. So as a kid, I would get out of school and my dad would pick me up sometimes early and we would go from box to box working the machine before in the lead up to Democrat primaries because there was no general election back then. And I learned retail politics, David. That's how going into a textile mill and meeting a foreman, maybe, or meeting a key machine shop guy who just knew he could get you 50 votes in that box. If you convinced him to support your candidate, and I watched my dad, just as a layperson, he drove a bus for a living, but he did this because he was passionate about politics and could make a little extra money occasionally. So I learned politics from an early.

    2016-06-09 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 57 - Tim Phillips · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source