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Tina Brown

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first: 2017-11-20
most recent: 2017-11-20
sittings or episodes: 1
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“I think, you know, Verdika Jones is a really great choice. She's a younger, you know, she's very literary background, but she knows how to put magazines together. I do believe that she'll bring a sort of fresh eye completely on. Vanity Fair, which has fabulous DNA and is a wonderful magazine, but now has time for the wheel to turn again and for it to let in new influences.”
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“Oh God, I don't know. I was deluded. But I do wish, I tell you who I am excited about is Radika Jones, the editor. Oh, yeah.”
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“I mean, ultimately, it was like, what am I doing back in print? It doesn't work to have this business model doesn't work.”
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“Yeah, well, you do well to do that. Again, we had the most amazing stuff in that magazine, but it was like having an affair with your ex-husband.”
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“Who knows? I don't think you'd be a print magazine anymore. I've decided that when I took over Newsweek, it was a mistake.”
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“I never say never do anything, quan honestly. I mean, I'm a news junkie, so I miss that, I suppose. I mean, I miss actually the daily beast energy more than I expected to in the end, because it was actually a great outlet for my news gene.”
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“not as a kind of woman's issues sort of sort of, you know, I don't want to do that. But I love hearing from women who you don't normally hear from all over the world about the stories of the day. And that's what I'd like to do.”
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“Well, you know, I'm growing my women in the world platform in the world platform. I love doing it. I have a very talented staff who are putting out very strong journalistic live material. So I love doing that. I'd like to kind of expand that, the voices of that, I think, now, so that you see the world through the eyes of women.”
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“No, I think it's always been. You know, Steve Jobs was a topographer himself, so he always cared about design and he cared about there's a sense of excellence there. That has always been about rejection of the mediocre. So I'm hoping that they might step into something really good in journalism because Ultimately, we can't keep on just impoverishing and draining journalism as we are. It's tragic to see how great journalists, I mean really good ones are unable to scarcely get by, that people who are earning, you know, a living wage are having to kind of scrape together three to four gigs, you know, to earn just about the nut to send their kids to college.”
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“Well, I have sort of high hopes about what Apple might do, actually. Well, I think that Apple's always had such a high sense of quality.”
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“Yeah, me too. Go all in. Yeah, exactly. So Journalism over the next couple years. If you had to look at all the, you know, obviously Apple's getting into stuff, YouTube, Google, Facebook, do you see any of them being helping journalism move forward?”
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“What is the one that you see what I'm interested in? I still read my daily beast every day. I mean, I like what Axios are doing. I think they've started. I like all kinds of things. I like France 24. I like reading that. I love what else do I read every morning? I read so many things every day. I like Vox, actually. I think it's a very smart side.”
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“They're raised by wolves, and so they're longing to have somebody say I have. I was lucky. I mean, I had, you know, when I first wrote, I was writing for the editor of the new statesman who was so high, severe. You know, he would write this stuff. This is like not good enough. This sentence doesn't make any sense. Like, what are you trying to tell me And it was scary, and I loved him, you know, because he really taught me.”
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“No, no, I'm not. I mean, the main thing that young people who I speak to want is they really want to attach themselves to somebody smart who can teach them something. Because so many kids now are just told to kind of like sit there at their screens and just post.”
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“I would. Money. No, no, no, I would. I want to go where I felt there was a pungent strong editor who could teach me things. Oh, no, I don't.”
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“Yeah Because India is just full of vibrant literary culture. It's absolutely fabulous India. I mean, it's got so many, it still believes in print, it's got a lot of really terrific literary magazines. It has just a kind of collective intellectual debate class still in a way that's just exciting to be around. It's very exciting india, actually. Um and it's it's it's got it still sort of discovering how to express things in online in a way that's very interesting. So I might go there but on the other hand I might find living in Delhi at 25 rather dangerous”
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“I haven't heard Mendacity since I saw Tennessee Williams play. Mendacity Mendacity. Mendacity means lies, people who need to look it up on Google. So let's end talking just briefly about what if you were Tina Brown 25 enfantoriba command of Oxford today, where would you go? What would you do?”
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“Well, Trump is, look, let's face it, I mean, Trump is a brilliant user of the medium. And one thing I think you've got to salute Trump for is he really understands how to express himself in a memorable, pungent way. and instantly communicating way. He says things that people remember. And that's gifted. You have to recognize that he is good at that. Unfortunately, you know, he's also able to just put absolute crass mendacity into the world and has millions of people believing it because he has so many followers.”
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“Right, exactly, you know, and they have influence and power, and they can multiply and so on, and I think that adds to the toxicity of the culture. So there's a lot of things to worry about.”
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“I think a lot of stress and a lot of dangerous emotions, which ultimately could lead to violence. And, you know, I think we've also seen the empowering of a lot of very sort of delinquent voices in a sense that in the past would be some crazy person muttering in a bar. And all of a sudden, you know, there's a huge community around those crazy persons.”
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“You know they're so confused about what's happening in the world and they're very stressed actually because half the time people don't know what is true. I also am very concerned by what I think of as the flash mob of social media that a flash mob can suddenly form very, very quickly around a person. Wow, you know, suddenly their reputation is shredded and they're sent like spinning by. A descent of a thousand people like writing abusive stuff about them. And it's a frightening thing, actually. It can actually lead to”
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“There's some excitement, but at the same time, I welcome the diversity of voices, and I welcome the way the digital media allows so many people who would never find a way in to express themselves and many great voices are coming out that wouldn't have had that chance, and also that it's convening power in terms of making things important is a fantastic addition. Ah, what I miss, though, is the ability to marshal an audience around an important subject and know that you can speak to that big audience and know that that audience is going to understand that this, because you're speaking to them, that it is actually an important and believable avenue. And that's what I think has greatly been lost, which is why people”
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“They can make the point all they like, but we well know that opinion forming influential content when it's very hard to find and support and have an impact with. I think the major problem is with so much, there isn't enough impact for the things that are important. And people don't know what is important or where to find it. So it doesn't wash to basically say, you know, there's so many transactions everybody can find it. I mean, it's a needle in a haystack for so many people.”
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“They want a media company in the modern age. That's exactly right. Oh, we're not a media company, we're a quote platform. Okay, well, guess what? I mean, when you don't have human beings who have judgment, who have taste, who have a sense of responsibility, you can have any old Russian hacker like dishing it out to the American publishers.”
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“They have no interest, no, I realize that. I'm just telling you what I think they should do. But they won't. They want all the things.”
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“And I think it's high time that they gave back to journalism. I mean, I do think that they should create a huge journalism fund for journalists, which could fund local journalists. Fund new periodicals. I don't”
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“Well, look, I am very angry and upset about the way that advertising revenue has been essentially pirated by the Facebook Google world. Without nearly enough give back, no give back really to the people who create those brilliant pieces that are posted all over their platforms.”
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“But when you think about what's happened, there's a couple people, I think, who really, at least they're trying to shift, Ariana was one of them, you're one of them. There's a couple of people that do it. Others are still hoping this internet thing goes away. It feels like that's going to go away.”
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“I wanted now to do something that enabled us to have deep conversations at a lesser adrenaline turnover. But it has its own exhaustions, as you well know.”
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“And I got very absorbed by that, and I felt that women in the World Summit is what I wanted to develop and that it was enough of doing this, the Daily Beast, and I wanted to kind of develop the life space. It's exhausting, exactly. And I felt”
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“How do you I left Database because after, what it was, six years, I think five, six years. Again, I felt I had launched there a new conference. Women in the World Summit.”
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“Most editors really, you know, they don't really care, it seems. That's unfair. There are plenty of editors who do care. But, you know, there's a sense that editors themselves are so harried by the world they're in. They're so pushed around and so kind of doing things that are too much with less money. And so they're often quite, you know, they don't get back to people because they hassled and all the rest. So writers feel very orphaned. So I think if you can show love to writers and if you can respond quickly and say, great peace, can you do this? It's amazing what people will write for you.”
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“Emails, and that's just worth everything. Writers feel orphan right now. You know, they don't get any response. Nobody ever replies to their emails”
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“I was surprised at the quality of what I could get, frankly, for very tiny sums of money. I mean, we only had a budget to pay $250 a piece. But if you can tap into the passions of writers, that's what I love about writers. I mean, their desire to say something and say it in a place where other people they know will read it. I mean, the great important thing for writers, I think, is to know you're being read and that you're being read by people who you respect. So, for us, we had to create in the daily beast, and I think we did, an intelligent playground. And in that intelligent playground, we could get anyone to come and play because they came to realize they got great traction. You know, they'd write a piece and they'd have 20.”
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“Very quickly. Well, I've always been very speedy. In fact, the criticism of me is that I'm tearing things up. So actually for me it was finding a median that was commensurate to my own impatience, actually. I mean, it fitted very well with my impatience. And what I came to love was being able to sit in a cafe with my blackberry as I then had and just be reading, reading, reading, and assigning, assigning, assigning, and finding how receptive people were if you could get them about the things they were interested in at the moment that they were interested in them, which is the great joy of being a digital editor because you're literally sitting reading and you're thinking, I know who will have something to say about that, you know, and I know who'll be sitting there thinking, I really just boiling to say something. Get them at six o'clock in the morning.”
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“Right up, you know, more and more. Did you say how quick those cycles were? Because you had been on a magazine cycle. One of the things I've always noticed about old media people is so slow. And they're like, wow, that was fast. I'm like, what? No, it wasn't. I moved very quickly. Very quickly.”
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“That I love that whole design process, and from the moment we posted our first few pieces I was totally hooked. Within a few days we published very early on a piece by Christopher Buckley where he endorsed Barack Obama. And of course, being from the Republican Buckley family, it made tremendous news. And I remember thinking it was like, it must be like going fishing and getting a salmon on a hook or something because you suddenly felt the tweaking and the tweaking of the internet and the explosion of traffic. And we watch the charkbeat thing going right up more and more.”
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“At the time, I was rather scared of it. Facebook had just started, really. Yeah, I was kind of afraid of it. But then from the first moment that we posted our first piece, and from the first time that I realized that designing it with Brandon was very exciting, it was so responsive, you know, and you could create things that were just so kind of expansive, expanding on what I had ever done before.”
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“Amazing. She really is. And so, yeah, I watched that. I thought that was incredibly smart of her. And I also know that, you know, I've always wanted to edit a newspaper. So in a way, this was my chance to edit a newspaper. Right. But you had never.”
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“To death. I mean, you have known her. I've known her since she was at Cambridge and I was at You know, when she was Uber, they were all making fun of her as usual. And it was, I was like, don't turn your back on her ever.”
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“Quite a bit. I love your depictions of her. She's a very old friend. I love her to death. I mean, she's known her for 40 years. I mean, I've known her since she was at Cambridge and I was at Oxford, right? We came here together in a sense. You know when she came to”
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“And I mean, I think it had a nice identity from the beginning, and I think the title was one of the reasons, actually, because it immediately said this is antique, this is a little bit retro chic. And I did everything the opposite for talk. I said, you know, I don't want to even say this is coming out. It is the opposite of the Liberty Island Noah's Art. No party. Absolutely no party. We will launch this. We've got to get it out before the 2008 election so we can ride that wave.”
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“Yeah, it is, and I wanted to do something that felt like a glossy upscale tabloid. I felt how exciting it would be to have The tabloid flavor of energy, but designed in a way that was kind of glamorous. Yet also was very intelligent and had dishy and intelligent at the same time. Again, the high-low thing, when the high stuff was very, very good and you had people like Simon Sharmer writing for it. But then the dishy stuff was also really fun. And I called it the Daily Beast because that was the name of the Fleet Street newspaper in Evelyn Wars novels. And I wanted to have that sort of retro tabloid scoop thing.”
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“And he said, No, come on when I finished it. He said, Come in and do this. He said, you know, if you don't like it, it doesn't matter, you can try and create something. Maybe I'll like it and do it, or I won't like it, but there's just no strings, just come in and create something online that has a kind of your kind of sensibility with news. Right. So I came in and at first I didn't think I was going to like doing this at all, but I sat with the Brandon Ralph at Coden Theory, who was an incredibly talented digital designer and conceiver of online.”
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“And that was a wonderfully sort of solving thing to do. It was back to who I was. I had a wonderful time with my children. I wrote my book. I was thoroughly sort of healed by that whole process. So by the time I finished the book, Barry Diller, who'd been calling me while I was writing it. Wanted me to come work with him and start something online. And I kept saying, no, I'm writing my book on Diana. I'm not an online person. I don't want to do it. I'm done with all of that. I really didn't think I was going to go back to editing, actually.”
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“Quite cruel. They were rooting for it to fail. I understand I'd had two successes. And you were tough too. I was tough. I've made enemies. I'd rejected a lot of pieces. I mean, that starts to stack up and then when things go wrong, they pounce. But I was okay. I went off for two years and I wrote my book on Princess Diana.”
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“And, you know, you had to be part of a big company. To be able to sustain that weight, if you like. And so we were facing a lot of losses. And basically Harvey just didn't want to wait any longer and he pulled the plug. I mean, I don't fully blame him, really. I mean, he was going to have to lose money. Had lost money, and he also was a factor in losing money. So, you know, my major sadness was I thought it was really a very good magazine.”
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“What happened actually was that it got horrible Schadenfreuder press. A kind of relentlessly so. And there comes a point where You know, it's just endless. It affects advertisers, actually. So I was constantly trying to battle that. But actually, we had got beyond that by the second year, and it was really looking much better in terms of the whole business picture. But then 9-11 happened. And all the advertisers, as you probably remember, sort of went into this hideous kind of wait-and-see mode where they just didn't want to. Commit to budget”
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“Huge kind of inquiries as to who said this and how they said it and father person who'd remotely, it was really extraordinary how thin-skinned he was, which speaks to a deep insecurity. Trumpian. Funny enough, I've said that about him. The person he most reminds me of is Trump. This kind of bizarre, mountainous”
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“Well, you had dealt with them on a bullying level, a berating level. I wasn't surprised on one level, and yet I was very surprised on another. I had no idea it was so assaultive that there was rape. I really didn't. I mean, I thought he was just a gross. Uh, you know, a woman, sort of womanizer. I didn't think that he was an abusing person in that sense. I just didn't see it. It was a shocking thing. I mean, I've been shocked again and again. What didn't shock me, though, was the fact that he had ex-Mossad agents because Harvey was so paranoid. It was one of the things that I first noticed about him. I thought, why is this man who seems such a kind of big Daddy Warbox. Yeah. Mogul. The slightest negative comment, anything. You know, if you said that he arrived late and seemed as sleepy. He would go ballistic and me conducting sort of”
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