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Tolga Kurtoglu

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  1. Yeah, I think robotics is to me a domain where all of this is happening as well, right? It's really interesting. So you ask, what are we doing in some of these domains? AI and robotics, I'll give you one example. Really interesting project and a technology that we're working on is about How to bring together these AI agents or computational agents and humans together. In a way that they form sort of collaborative teams to go after tasks. And robotics is a great domain for really exploring some of the ideas there. So there's a lot of.

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  2. It's exactly right. So they can hear, they can sense, they can act, and they can respond to their environment in a way that, again, in an intelligent and a smart way.

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  3. They can act like three year olds, exactly, and that elevates their sort of intelligence level. And that's why we hear smart cities and smart trains and smart cars.

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  4. So we're seeing advances in competition, advances in access to competition as well, right? This whole notion of cloud computing and the ability to have as much computational power as you need is very powerful. And to the first point, a lot of data, a lot of data is available to data, which is just simply available. And that enables us to train these what we call the artificial intelligence algorithms in a way that they can do those kinds of things.

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  5. Give me an example. Classification is a typical example in the AI, right? So if you think about looking at an object and telling whether that's a car or not, that's something that the three-year-old kid picks up fairly quickly after somebody reinforces that, right? So it says this is a car. And they kind of get a sense of, yeah, cars come in different shapes, models and colors and whatnot very, very quickly. And for machines to be able to do that was very, very difficult because you needed a lot of computation, a lot of data, and a lot of labeled data.

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  6. Exactly, and it gives you this ability to sense and control and do that in real time, which is very, very powerful notion. The other one is this notion of machine intelligence and automation is a big part of that, which we're seeing more and more systems that can mimic and do the kinds of things that we thought only humans can do really well.

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  7. So, automation to me is part of as we think about it, the machine intelligence. So if I think about it, there's three major emerging technology trends that are happening simultaneously. And actually, the potential kind of comes together from the intersection of those three things. And one of them is this notion of IoT, and people use that in various different ways. But essentially what it is to me is the ability to embed sensing and sensors in physical devices, and this can be in the industrial context or it can be in the consumer context and be able to Basically, generate data about that device and artifact. In real time, it gives you a lot of advantages.

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  8. We have, you know, it changes. It changes, it depends on the duration of the projects that we have, but we have a very large

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  9. It goes both ways, I would say. So there are areas, emerging areas in technology, you know, IoT, artificial intelligence, machine intelligence, autonomy, digital manufacturing is some of the areas that we're very actively pursuing. And they're interested in sort of generically in those areas. We give them the kinds of capabilities we have, the technologies we have developed in the recent past. But sometimes they come and said, we have this problem. And how can we go about that? And then you get paid for that.

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  10. You're trying to give him a full menu of if they've decided to create the best chair or whatever the heck you're working on. And do you tell them what you're working on or do they say we have a problem with blank?

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  11. The market strategy, go to market. So essentially we not only deliver them the technology options, but we also deliver them how to think about really coupling that with the right business model and with the business strategy. You're trying to give them a full menu of.

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  12. To date, and then the rest are open innovation business, and that's where we work with the government agencies. Companies, all commercial companies, right? So, and they're kind of different in the nature of research that they're seeking for. But essentially, it's about the future. It's about what might future look like. And here's a tough problem in a particular domain. It requires deep technical and scientific investigation to be able to solve it, right? And that's what we provide. We put our brains together and they look at that problem and they provide potential solutions and options. But it's not just sort of ideas about what might be the solutions to that. We do the deep science in the scientific investigation, but we do put prototypes together. We provide them proofs of feasibility. We provide them proofs of concept. And we do that in parallel with our strength on the business side. So the business modeling side.

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  13. Can you explain the business plan of the park? Excuse me not. Yes, and you would be surprised if you actually look at our set of clients that how big their internal R&D budgets are. They already have. They already have. They still come to us. And for a number of reasons, so you asked earlier, where is our funding coming from? So we're still wholly owned subsidiary of Xerox, so about less than half of our funding comes from Xerox.

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  14. But I think the mission is your question about what we're looking for today is the same thing. What we provide to the world is we become partners with our clients to really envision the future for them and with them and really create a set of technology options, if you will.

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  15. So Right, right. I can do that. So it was started in 1970 and it was founded on the West Coast, which is far away from where the headquarters were. And it started with the sole mission. And the mission was to really invent the office of the future. And it hired early generations of computer scientists and other scientists to really kind of think about what the world would look like and what the office would look like in the future. And a lot of the early work, the kinds of things that you mentioned earlier came out of that first formative years, the first decade or two, the graphical user interface, the laser printer. The mouse and ethernet and the GUI object-oriented programming. Those are the kinds of things that you might imagine. Now this notion of kind of connected world seems to be course, right?

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  16. At park today, it's a combination of our technical staff, which is majority of them are PhDs coming from different disciplines, all the major engineering fields, aerospace, mechanical, electrical, industrial, material scientists, a lot of computer scientists, as you might imagine. And physicists and chemists, et cetera. But we also have social scientists, ethnographers, anthropologists, and user experience, user studies experts, as well as business experts that understand certain markets, IP, IP strategy and those kinds of things. So we really blend those set of talents and resources when we.

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  17. How many people are there? Where is the budget from besides secret government agencies? Good question. So we have a little over 200 people.

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  18. The real physical Months, a shorter time to do it computationally. So you go to park and you start working on these things. How big was, give us a sense of how big it is now? How many people are there? Where is the budget from besides secret government agencies? Good question.

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  19. Right, so yes, and before Park again, I worked on a lot of predictive analytics and AI technologies in NASA as well. And a lot of my background in training is in engineering and how to apply, again, AI and other computational technologies to engineering problems at large. And with a specialization in kind of product design and development, how to do that better, what kind of tools and technologies you might develop to do that more efficiently and to come up both from a process point of view more efficiently, but also to be able to design and develop and deploy better products, right? And at the time of my transition from NASA to PARC, PARC had won a big contract from the Department of Defense, DARPA agency, that really looked at how to revolutionize how people go about really designing these highly complex.

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  20. To go out of my comfort zone and trying to think about the next thing and what might be the thing that would push me harder compared to what I've done in the recent past, et cetera. In that first transition into the research and development world first and then go to park because there's a big variety of domains and problems that we work on there. And as I said, the applied nature of it perhaps a contrast to academia where you solve the heart problems and you publish and you generate the knowledge and that's the mission of educational institutions. But then you move on to the next hard problem, right? But I think there's a big reward, at least for me and a big personal passion where you don't just stop at the output of that R&D activity if you will, but you really think about what that means for the people and for the society, for the culture where it goes further down.

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  21. I mean, I went from that back to the research realm, right? So I think there is a certain level of repetition, if you will, that it gets. Okay, so you move from this product to the next product, but if you think about really the skill set-wise, and the kind of problems that you're working on, they get somewhat boring after a while. And I always kind of challenge myself to

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  22. That's true, but that is also what people remember Park Buy. We do work on, and I like to talk about that later in the podcast, about the kinds of things that we're working on today. I think there's a couple of reasons. The major one is it's a unique R&D place in a sense that it focuses on what I call translational research, really kind of that boundary of research and development. And you think about science and technology, but you also think about how to really translate that into market and market impact and products and services, et cetera. So it has that applied nature and you can kind of see the impact of your ideas in your thoughts and your work. When it goes through that transformation translation and creates the kind of impact that we want to create in the market and the world, there is a big sort of reward for a lot of the people that we have at park today, if not all.

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  23. Yeah, I did work for DAO. Right. Yes, a number of reasons. So before Park, I was at NASA Ames, a research center. I was a researcher there. So I think combination of those gave me a perspective on I knew academia, I have a lot of friends and colleagues that kind of chose the academic career path. And I sold the government agency side and how research gets done in that context, as well as a pretty fast-paced product company involved, right? And I think sort of the synthesis of those experiences led me to kind of think about my next career move. And Park was a perfect choice for that.

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  24. And then move to the Bay Area in the summer of 2006. So I've been in the Bay Area since then. And like I said, I started at Park 2010. And what did

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  25. Yeah, pretty much. And at the end of my undergrad, I decided to come to US and get a graduate degree. So I did that in Pittsburgh, Pennsylvania. Carnegie Manuel, Carnegie Malon, yes.

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  26. Sure, I got to park in the summer of 2010 Almost been seven years, I think it will be mid-July is going to be my seventh mark. Background wise, I was born and raised in Turkey.

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