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“But it's also, you know, if you're feeling something wrong, even though you're trying to rationalize in a way, you know, it's not abusive because he's not hitting me. No, the emotion is telling you something real about what's going on. So acknowledge it and fix the situation, right? So one of the powers emotions give you is they send you signals about something that might not be in cognition yet. And when you examine the emotion, it brings it to cognition. And now you can act on it. So maybe the boss is abusive. But I didn't really think of it in those terms, and my emotions is sending me signals. And now that I signal it, I'm going to resign. I'm going to find another job. I'm going to complain to his boss or whatever. I'm going to take action.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“They are responses, responses to something. So one must be very aware of one's own emotions, recognize them and analyze them, and one should be aware of other people's emotions if they're important to you, if they're not important to you. It doesn't matter, right? You don't care about a stranger's emotion. Like a stranger walks up to Michelangelo's divinity and walks away and I go, okay, I'm glad you're a stranger”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Okay, it is Lex. I can see this is bullshit. I can say Michael's emotions. And that's part of the facts of reality, right? So if Michael responds to something that I view as really, really important, right? If we were standing in front of Michelangelo's David, Michael's response to Michelangelo's David was, eh, and turned his back to it and walked away. That would be really meaningful to me, right? I would respond emotionally to that and cognitively, I would say, what is it about Michael that makes him, you know, respond this way? That gives me a lot of information about him. So emotions are...”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Values with their conclusions with their ideas with their experiences with a million different things. But at the end of the day, it's about the conclusions that they come to, which are then shaping their emotions. But look, emotions are not something to be avoided or ignored. That is, I can sense your emotions to some extent, right?”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Don't be repressed and identify the emotion as reality and evaluate it. Don't judge it. Evaluate it. Is it a rational emotion? Is it consistent with my, like if I'm afraid of these dogs, if I feel that fear, is it rational to be afraid of these dogs?”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So part of that, I would even say don't let your emotion about your emotion, right? Because sometimes you have an emotion about your emotion.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Now, you could have a dog that does respond to your milkshake, right? But then it's not reality, right? That's a fact of reality that certain dogs respond to certain emotions.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is making sure that your emotions are really conditioned by what you know explicitly versus what you've internalized implicitly that you might not agree with anymore. You know, things might happen in your childhood, and they probably do, right, where you get a trauma. I don't know. I'm afraid of dogs. And maybe when I was a five-year-old, some dogs jumped me. And I don't even remember it, right? But I came to a conclusion when I was five, dog's bad. Dog's dangerous. And now anytime I see a dog, oh my God, that bringing my emotions aligned with reality, right? With my ideas is, no, now I understand dogs don't have to be scary. I can work through this various techniques, hopefully, if there is such a science of psychology, but in psychology to get you to the point where you can get rid of that fear and align your emotion now with your experience.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Could easily terrorize you to the point. Where you felt fear, right? So we can teach him about emotions. But emotions of response to us. So some people, for example, you could take five different people and show them exactly the same thing, and some of them would feel fear and some of them would actually, you know, feel indifferent and other people might feel love, right? I think Leonard Peakoff uses the example of looking through a microscope and seeing a, I don't know, a virus or bacteria. And for one, it's a scientist. He's made a new discovery he feels pride and love and the one is has no clue, right? And he's looking at this and it means nothing to them. And somebody else might look at it. And it's a bacteria. And they feel fear because of what it could do to them. So it's conditioned, but what you know, what your values are and your level of knowledge and what the thing is out there in reality. And it's that into, so your emotions respond to that. So aligning your emotions with your reason.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, I could create, we could create an environment on this island where you would really feel emotions. Like fear is an emotion.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not enough to reference her. That's the way the Yamica. So, yeah, obviously, he may be red enough, but didn't understand enough. It's absolutely reality. Reality is unaffected by your emotional state and your feelings about it. And this is a great claim against the idealism, the philosophical idealism of much of the world out there, both left and right. I think politically, culturally, the left and right are detached from reality. They live in a different dimension, in a different space that they are creating in their own minds that has nothing to do with the real world. And when they fail, they make stuff up to justify their failure. So this is all of really the ideas that are promulgated today on both sides are this kind of detached from reality. We're putting emotions or ideas before reality itself. But I believe that, you know, I emotions of responses. The responses to reality conditioned by our existing”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I mean, there's a sense in which he is. I mean, who popularized that kind of idea? And Ben, as Red Ayn Rand quite extensively.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“These are powerful, powerful, powerful stories. And people are moved by it. And the integration of emotion with reason is crucial, right? One of the goals to be happy is to bring your emotions in line with your thinking. And I think that stories and arts more broadly. And when I go and see Michelangelo's David, it does the same thing to me. I can stand up to anybody because he did. And look, he succeeded, and it makes sense that he could, right?”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolute commitment to integrity. He is committed to integrity and he gets and he's happy, right? And it's very rare in life to see that, to actually see a concrete of that. And it's very hard to hold it in your mind. Yes, I'm going to be stuck in the quarry or I'm going to be stuck doing this horrible job, but if I stick to my principles, I'm going to be how it works. Now I've got that concrete. I know I can immediately relate to that success. So I think art is essential and I think in a sense what we do to Thatcher and Reagan is art. You have to be careful in two stories not to diverge too far from reality because then when you discover the reality, you don't want to whitewash it and particularly when it has political implications and then it's really bad, particularly with Reagan and Thatcher. You have to be careful because they weren't anyone near as good as people try to make them out to be. But the”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely. And it's not just happiness, it's the fact that virtue works, that integrity, I mean, what's the power of the fountain? I know you love the fountain. Part of the power of the fountain head is How it works.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Is a destructive force on planet Earth. I think it's always been a destructive force. It was just unnecessary force, right? You needed an explanation. People needed something to believe in. Once you get philosophy and once you get philosophy that starts explaining real life, real world, you don't need religion anymore. And indeed it becomes a destructive force. And you look around the world today. It's an unbelievably destructive force. Everywhere it touches is bad for life. Again, mythology depends. Art is essential. Very, very crucial to human existence.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, so I think we have a real. Need right as a conceptual being, we have a need for static experiences. We have a need to concretize abstractions, to concretize abstract ideas, to concretize the complex nature of the world out there. And that's what painting sculpture, to some extent, to an extent music, but painting sculpture.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As he says, is to revive religion against attack of reason in the Enlightenment. Now, mythology is a little different because it depends what you mean by mythology. Certainly we need stories. And certainly we need art. Art is a, and Rand writes about this a lot, and she's an artist, and she writes in, I'm a huge fan of the romantic manifesto, which I think is one of her underappreciated masterpieces.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Some point, though, at some point, and that point suddenly came during the scientific revolution, I think, we could come to the conclusion that no. We don't need this bucket that's called God to explain the things that we don't know. We can say we don't know. And we're learning. And slowly our knowledge is increasing, and yet there's a lot more that we don't know, but we don't need to throw it into some bucket that's called God in order to have it. And I think that's true for morality, and it's true for everything else, right? As we gain the tools to understand what morality requires, we don't need a set of commandments. We can figure out morality from human nature and from reality. So I don't think we need religion anymore. I think religion needed to die probably about 200 years ago and was dying, I think, up until Kant. It seemed to be dying.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“There was value. There is no value today. So humans need explanations, right? They need a philosophy to guide their life. They need ethics. They need some explanation of what's going on in the world, right? And there's no accident that the early religions had a river god and they had a sun god and a moon god because everything they didn't understand, they made God, right? So they had multiple gods because they didn't understand very much. As human understanding evolved, increased, as we knew reality more, right? We came to the conclusion of, you know, this is very inefficient to have all these gods. This is a genius of Judaism, right? Let's just have one bucket to put all the stuff we don't know in and we'll call it one God and then we don't, as we gain new knowledge, we can just take it out of the bucket that's God and put it into the bucket of science”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Stories about Abraham, not about God. First of all, God is mean, right? To put Abraham through that. But Abraham has to assume that he's going to kill his son and he's going to do it. And he stopped. So the whole point is obedience. That's where humility leads to. It leads to the opposite of the story you were telling. It leads to people saying, yes, I should be told what to do. Where's the authority who actually knows something? I don't know anything. No, I know a lot and I know a lot about my life. So, you stay away from my life because I have pride in my life”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, it won't. But elevating Jesus exactly, elevating Jesus to a superhero status for one of the most immoral acts in human history is horrific. So yeah, I mean, I'm opposed to God sacrificing his own son, never mind my son.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, this is before he killed himself, so I didn't know that, right? But no, part of the evil, part of the evil of Christianity is that he's killed his son in the most torturous form of death possible. I mean, the whole story of Jesus is one of the most immoral, unjust stories ever told, and that Christians elevate this to a position of, I'd love to have this conversation with Jordan, right? Jordan Peterson. The idea of elevating...”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, absolutely, because it's part of, if you look at the cardinal virtues, the cardinal sins in Christianity, pride is a cardinal sin. Humility is a cardinal virtue, but they don't mean it in the sense because they're happy to tell you how to live. They're happy to be philosopher kings over your life, and they believe that's being humble. And you should be humble, by the way, in listening to the Pope or listening to God, because what do you know? You know nothing. God knows everything. So you should shut up and do what you're told. That's the sense in which I don't think you should be humble. I mean, it's the sense in which I always use the example of Abraham, right? God comes to Abraham and says, go kill your elder son. Your only son, right? Your only son. Go kill him. It's like, and what does Abraham do? He says, yes, sir. And he's a moral hero for Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. He's a moral hero because he follows orders because he's humble. You know, I would tell God to go to hell.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No, who are you to tell him how to live is an issue of force and rights and a bunch of different things. I don't think it's a lack of humility there. I think it's a lack of being a human being.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not through force. That's what I'm saying. And of course, not in the concrete. I don't tell them, move. Although I do tell Dubooth Austin, but I don't tell them this is what you do as a profession. But I give them the principles because I think they're principles.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People out there that don't want to know because they don't have that pride, they don't have that commitment to live, to commitment to achieving something.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, and look, everything I do is about me knowing stuff that other people don't. And I know a lot of stuff other people don't. And I do. And it's fun. I'm a teacher. I'm a teacher at heart, always have been. It turns out I didn't know that early on. But, you know, I like becoming an expert and then trying to teach people. It doesn't mean I know everything. Quite the contrary. Again, the more I know, the more I know that there's certain things I don't know and there's certain areas of expertise I don't have. But look, pride is a broader concept than that. Pride is about, and humility is the opposite of pride. And Christianity has that right. Pride is about taking our life seriously. Pride is about wanting to be really good at living, wanting to have the knowledge. And I think what you're describing is you're describing as I'm constantly learning. Sometimes I have to re-allenge myself. I have to question what I believed in order to gain new knowledge. That's all good, but that is a drive that is driven by pride. You want to know there are lots of...”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Know it's the other way around. I find that the more I know, the more I know I know, the easier it is for me to learn from other people. The broader a context I have. The more curious I become, the more areas I know. You know, it's true that the more you know, the more areas you know you don't know. And the more I find myself attracted to people who can teach me something about things I don't know. Whereas if I was ignorant, if I truly believed, I didn't know anything. I don't know how it would live. It would really completely challenge everything about life for me. Where would I even start? You wouldn't know where to start. So no, I think, and if you don't recognize what you know, you don't have a full appreciation of yourself. So really building a recognition of what do I know, right? And how much do I know is really crucial to living?”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yeah, absolutely You can be the best version. I mean, this is a cliche, but you can be the best version of yourself, it's not a competition. And yet our Jewish mothers, that's not what they aspire us to be. They aspire us to be the best version of what they imagine, what the culture imagines, you know, what society imagined, not what it's not about you in their minds. And I've seen it. I see it all around me. People putting their kids down, putting themselves down.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because, yeah, I mean, particularly, I hate to bring this up, but particularly Russians and particularly Russian Jews and particularly Eastern European Jews are incredibly Christian. There's a real Christian theme in Judaism about guilt. Guilt, there's no guilt in Judaism. King David doesn't feel any guilt. Solomon doesn't, there's no guilt in the Old Testament. Plenty of guilt once Christianity has an impact on Judaism. We're raised to feel this way. We're raised to be humble.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No big deal I mean, if you've achieved something in life, you are a big deal and you are a big deal because, you know, look, you got the two of us to fly into town just to sit down here and have a conversation with you. You're a big deal.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So I agree with all of the concrete examples. I just think we should come up with a better word than humility. And I don't have one because I'm not a wordsmith. This is not my strength. But humility is a word from the Christian ethics. And it means something very specific in the field of ethics. And it means the opposite of what I think virtue requires. It's demeaning. It's to put you down, it's to resist pride. And I think pride is a very important thing.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Not appreciating the genius and the ability and the success and all the stuff that we as individuals, I think, in our lives, but as a culture, as a movement, if you think about movement in terms of those of us who respect reason have achieved in spite of the odds, we should be proud of that and pride is the virtue. Humility in the sense of, yeah, I know there's more to know. I know there's a lot more to know and in the future we'll know more. Sure, but I don't think that's the way I take humility as the way the Christians use it, which is the other way. And I think it's a real vice. It's don't think of yourself too much just because you can think, you know, that's no big deal or just because you can create this. It is a big deal. Your achievements are a big deal and you should take credit for them. So be careful with the word humility because the real meaning is the Christian meaning, which is a very, very bad meaning.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A reason to be humble. I mean, I really think humility is a vice, not a virtue. What's there to be humble about? Look at life.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Got you And it's not even just the sciences and the math. Think about the philosophy. I mean, how much is there to learn from reading Aristotle or Plato Socrates when you disagree with them? I mean, how many giants have there been in all of human history that have had the minds of Socrates, of Plato, and an Aristotle? A thousand years, will they look back at Plato and Aristotle and admire them? Absolutely. Well, they find certain things that are wrong, yes, but certain things that Aristotle discovered are absolutely right and will always be right, certain things that Ayn Rand discovered will always be right. I think a lot of what he came up with, well, some things be discovered to be wrong? Yeah. You know, that wouldn't shock me. But the genius and the truth that we know today is amazing. It's stunning to be pessimistic about us because in the future we'll know.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“It's a magnitude, but here I'll use the standard that Hoffman uses evolution, right? The reason I know that our resolution is phenomenal, it's phenomenally good, right, is look at us. We're sitting here comfortably in an apartment with air conditioning in warm Austin with microphones and where did all this stuff? Really good at survival and changing the environment. Indeed, if you look at the species that we know of, there's not a species that come anywhere close to our ability to deal with reality, to observe to reality, understand reality, and to shape it. Now, in the future Well, we'll come up with machines that can figure out stuff that we have no clue about today.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No. Which is again. If it turns out that there are these creatures that you can only see with psychedelics in, there are these creatures that you can only see with psychedelics. And our resolution, while we're not on psychedelics, is not fine enough to observe them. So what? That doesn't change the fact that we evolved to survive in reality as it is”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So, I need a Microsoft to not see them, but they're either there or they're not there. And I have the tools to discover whether they are there or they're not there. And that's called a microscope. Now, there could be even smaller beings that even with a microscope, I won't be able to define, but that's completely arbitrary to claim that they're there until I find a tool to be able to discover it. The same with what you see if you're seeing other beings when you're taking psychedelics. Unless you find another tool to be able to see them with. The simplest assumption is probably the truest assumption.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“So here's the wood I was looking for. It's a word actually Greg taught me this. So Greg Selmiri. So it's resolution, right? So it's resolution. My resolution changes with the glasses. My resolution gets finer with the Microsoft. So there's probably some bacteria here on the table. 100%. There's no doubt about it. I can't see them.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Absolutely, and it has a particular nature, right? And all it's doing is changing the focus. So if I take off my glasses, I'm seeing the same thing. I'm just seeing something's out of focus. And maybe in the distance, I can't see something. It's gone. And then I put it on, there it is. That thing was always there. It's just the sensitivity I have to it has changed. And it's absolutely not sensitive to everything equally. And drugs can change the relative sensitivities. It doesn't change reality. Changes our ability to focus on reality. Let me give you a great example.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, but this is Occam's razor, right? The simplest explanation here is the most likely, and that is that you've taken something that's messing with the chemicals in their brain. Something your brain can project. We dream. Nobody's arguing that the dream is real and reality is not, or if they are, I think they're nuts. The dream is a dream. Your brain is creating an image of telling you a story. Psychedelics are simulating the same thing. That's probably what's going on until there's evidence to the contrary. Hold on.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You can recreate it not only using night vision goggles, but you can then use sonar, you can use other mechanisms by which to prove that the deer is there. The thing with psychedelics is that now I don't know, because maybe I'm the least experienced with psychedelics here probably. My guess is every time you take the psychedelics, you have exactly the same experience of the deer? No. Second, are there other mechanisms, other scientific mechanisms by which I can find the deer out there? Other than the psychedelics? We don't know yet.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Because partially because I need to take a drug in order to do it because I'm asleep when I'm dreaming, it's not reality. That is clearly a creation of our mind. It's not a creation.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, we do. We know reality. We observe it. Now, do we know everything about reality? No, we can't, for example, sense what a bat senses as reality, right? A bat observes reality through, what is it? Sound waves, right? Through sono, right? So it has a different sense, but it's the same reality. It's still a table. It debats spatial relationship to the table is different than ours, but the object is still the same object.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Think the issue is, and what he's challenging is, and what Kant is challenging is do we know reality? And I think the answer.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Love is an abstraction. So isn't love real? Yes, it's real because I feel it. It's an existent, but it's not an existent in the same sense as cop is. You know, abstractions are real, but at the end of the day, all abstractions have to be able to be reduced to actual concrete so you can either see.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Real what does it mean to say something is real? That is, you can so love, for example, love is a good example, right? Love is an abstraction, right? It's not something I can touch. It's not something I can see, but it's certainly something you can feel.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he's giving it an evolutionary facade, but it's just a facade for the same idea, and that is that somehow because we have eyes, we cannot see because the light waves are going through a medium and that medium necessarily distorted. The medium changes the resolution at which you see, right? Like if I take off my glasses, I'm seeing it a little differently. But the thing is still there. And the thing is still there in the way I see it because the handle I'm grasping, the handle and lifting the cup. That's not an illusion. That is a real cup.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“A subset that has to integrate with this world, there isn't two worlds, one in the quantum world and one here. They're integrated. Now, we might not have the scientific knowledge to know how they're integrated, but so what? We know that there's only one reality, and that's this one. He has this difference. He says evolution matches up to fitness, not to reality, and he creates this dichotomy between fitness and reality. But that's complete nonsense. There is no such thing as a concept of fitness outside of fitness to what? To reality. Fitness and reality are the same thing. They're not separate things. So the whole way he sets this up intellectually is wrong, I think, to some extent dishonest and certainly philosophically corrupt. And it's Kantian. Again, he's accepted Kant's ideas and everybody pretty much has accepted Kant's ideas for the last 200 years. And they keep it a different facade.”
2021-04-24 · Lex Fridman Podcast · #178 – Michael Malice and Yaron Brook: Ayn Rand, Human Nature, and Anarchy · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source