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Zalmay Khalilzad

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first: 2018-04-16
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“Thank you, David. It's a great pleasure to be here at the University of Chicago. Congratulations on this great institute.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I don't know. I don't do internal politics, so you would be a better judge on that. I thought that it was motivated by national security concerns. At least that's impression I got. It wasn't in terms of Islam being alien to America and we don't want them here, that sort of issue was the issue of terrorism and extremism.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Muslim faith would be where I. Made my point with him that I'm more sharply focused on terrorists and extremists is the right approach. During the Soviet period, I came here initially as a student, you had to sign documents and be vetted whether you had any communist affiliations and so forth, whether you had ever joined a communist party. I mean, something, this is well beyond my area of expertise. We're talking about immigration that is vetted with regard to terrorism or extremism relationship that makes sense, but to say that to have a category as broad as all Muslims, that obviously would not serve. Did you view it as inconsistent with the values?”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think that we know that terrorists Would like to use whatever way or means they can to inflict harm on us. And therefore, as a category of concerns to make sure that terrorists do not use our immigration or visit visa as a way to come in this different way.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I did. I told him that. One thing I didn't want him to do, if he wanted me to introduce him, was to attack Islam or Muslims as a category. I said, I don't expect... Muslims or non Muslim necessity to be in love with Islam, it's up to each individual and their fate. And I have no problem attacking terrorism and extremism as huge problems of the contemporary period. I have been representing us in conflict with those forces. So I appreciate that. But you don't want to, even whatever kind of beliefs one has, but as potential president of the United States of America with a global role with a country that's very diverse, to unite over a billion people against the United States by attacking their faith. And I have to say that he went along, at least in the speech he did not.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Yes, in my judgment, but that tweet would indicate that in a sort of what I learned at the University of Chicago. Is now the burden he has put by that on Putin. Woody respond or would he Work for a kind of strike in which he could claim that some missiles were shot down, that he's not entirely humiliated.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Without getting into a conflict or confrontation with the Russians. And I thought that to give the president the benefit of the doubt, that is a tweet might be part of a game of chicken with Putin that says, we're coming. We're going to do this. I've thrown the steering wheel out of my car. Let's talk about something that prevents or avoids or precludes escalation. Maybe there is some shadow boxing or actual discussion going on on what would be sufficient for us to do and does not risk that escalation.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That wasn't enough, obviously, to do the job. So if we are to deter, it may require a much bigger effort, maybe a campaign that lasts several days to convince Bashar and his supporters that use of chemical weapons is very risky. The dilemma is whether you can do that without having the right to”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think the objective if we do something Must be to deter the use of Chemical weapons against civilian population in Syria.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I hope he doesn't do the paper overing of differences and use the process for advocacy. That, I think, would not serve the president well.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As to be to give the president an honest Account of the views of the principles Secretary of State, Secretary of Defense, and others, because there are two ways. One way and two options, one way is to, with a strong belief of one's own, to over differences and say everybody is agreeing to this point of view, but while in fact there are very significant differences. And that can get a president strategy in difficulty when going gets tough or to give him honest options that your defense department wants this, your State Department wants that.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was of the view that if the president wanted a strong advocate for a point of view like John is, he's a smart guy, a great advocate, maybe you should have given him an institution to run. Because the National Security Advisor is a broker role.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“From the campaign time with regard to the alliances that people like McMaster and Mattis and others have had a salutary effect. If you look at the...”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“As a strategy, as a tactic, it's good, but that's kind of a long term strategy. Is not so I was not in agreement with Mr. Trump when he was a candidate and he asked me to introduce him to give his big foreign policy address and I did and one of the issues that I raised with him was that I wasn't going to I would need an assurance that the alliances are seen as an asset at the end of the day and that among a couple of other issues that I raised with him before doing that and also on the condition that I could also introduce other candidates that I'll be open to doing that but in any case I think these alliances are extremely important to our benefit to the benefit of the world but yes some disruption I think the balance has moved in a positive direction”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think on the positive side, I think The new president being a disruptor to raise questions. Raise issues that we know have been there for a while or their new approaches to deal with them. We know that burden sharing among allies, for example, has been a significant issue. European allies are not doing Their fair share in terms of The challenges that we face, and given our own domestic needs, And the challenge is that we face in Asia The rise of China, with the change in economic balance of power and the military balance of power there, that alone with the burden sharing, the way it has been, the United States, and we cannot meet that obligations over time in those theaters. So doing more burden sharing and perhaps...”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But Should have pushed the Turks to come up with a better option in dealing with ISIS if the Kurds was going to be such a working with these or difficult for them. And now we are where we are. We have developed a good relationship with these Kurds, our military, especially CENCOM has developed kind of with the fighters a very mutually respectful and positive relationship. We've got to think about options as to how to preclude or minimize the risk of a break with Turkey and how we face the same challenge with Putin. How do you In the case of Putin avoid a war with them”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Understandably in that regard, because the groups that we have been working with have been part of the PKK, which PKK has been... Terrorist group, we regarded them as a terrorist group in Turkey, they've killed a lot of Turks, while the issue of Kurds in that region is one of the terrible legacy of the colonial era. I mean, these are borders that were drawn by Brits and French. I used to tease my British counterpart when Iraq and Afghanistan that our mission has become to go around the world and fix the messes you left behind for us.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Or a combination and I think we've made some mistakes in dealing with Turkey, whether it's with regard to Syria or even with regard to Iraq, with regard to the relationship. We need to hedge. We need to have a complex kind of strategy.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Huge, huge, because I think we have swing states in our country. You've done domestic politics. That matter a lot. I think we have swing states internationally too. And Turkey is, in my judgment. Has been such a state. So we need to be very smart and careful not to lose Turkey to a hostile camp, whether with Iranians or with the Russians.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“More authoritarian and neo-Ottoman almost is not the only ambition is not limited to Turkey for Turkey to make Turkey great again to borrow from And make Turkey great again is not only a bit more Islam in politics, but also more Turkey in the world and the region.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Reaction that we have to imitate the successful one. The other extreme has been, no, the reason we are not doing well is because we abandon the true faith that the closer we are to the prophet's time than we were successful. So we have to go bring back the Sharia and become more pure, Islamist. struggle a permanent war, they believe, between the believers and the non-believers. kind of the alternative model and Turkey embraced secularism and some of the others have embraced other mixes and now unfortunately in the case of Turkey there is a resurgence of a shift towards Islam and Ataturkin as kind of legacy is being undermined by Mr. Erdogan that's a mix of Islam and a kind of personal authoritarianism, a personal He's a charismatic leader, great orator, is using those skills to establish a more Islamic New York.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Sure. Well, in the crisis of Islamic civilization, as I call it, there is a question that Muslims in that region in particular have asked themselves that we used to be great. We were dominant. We were successful. We were ruling parts of Europe. And now we've declined. not as economically successful, not as technologically education and so on. What happened? What went wrong and what should be done about it? What should be done about it? The question Lennon asked. And one answer has been that you have to copy successful countries, separation of church and state economic free market economy, rule of law, and all the attributes of successful societies. That's one.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For that order that we wanted to Iraqis to have not to succeed, what happened after the defeat of al-Qaeda in Iraq, which we did, whether that will be repeated, we disengage, and then the fight among ethnic groups, sectarian groups start, and another group ISIS, the son of Al-Qaeda in Iraq and whether we'll have the son of ISIS come back or whether the Iraqis have learned the lesson that not to repeat the cycle that we saw before. I'm hopeful that they have learned a lesson.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“No doubt we would be that mean there wouldn't be problems but I think in Iraq that was stable, forced for good, a zone of contestation which has become between the Sunni Arab world, the Shia Iran, the Turks, and then with the opportunities that that contestation and that struggle without coming to some accommodation with each other and some rules of the game as provided as ungoverned spaces and conditions in which extremism And my concern right now with Iraq is that we defeated al-Qaeda in Iraq, which was a big problem when I was ambassador there. We tried to put a government of national unity together. Extremists, the terrorists were trying to pull Iraq apart to defeat us by defeating the trude politicization and taking advantage of the sectarian fault line.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“What deleted happened? And I said, I even joked with him. I said Colin, you are the Secretary of State. You're calling a Stafford to find out. So that was not our finest hour. I think it... Perhaps the war initially went too easy compared to what people expected. And there we became a little can do anything. And I think that. Diminished a sharp focus on analyzing, calculating. Intended consequences, unintended consequences of what you are going to.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I was very disappointed because, and even that process of that decision, the book document said very well, which is that Ambassador Bremar and I were both supposed to go. He was going to be presidential envoy for making the trains run, and I was going to be the presidential envoy for getting a government organized very quickly. But then at the very last minute, again, Colin Powell called me when the decision was made that only.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And I went inside Iraq before the invasion. The government put a lot of effort to get me safely in and out of Iraq, almost like a James Bondi type of operation that I would land at 4 a.m. in different places and meet with local leaders. And I made a commitment on behalf of the United States to these people that we will not govern you. This is not a colonial project. We have a limited interest that we are coming here for, which is we think Saddam Hussein at WMD and we are afraid that he might use them. And then after all these commitments, public commitments, I gave a speech to a group of them that the Wall Street Journal printed verbatim on its op-ed page in which I said we do not want to rule you. I said, let me repeat, we don't want to govern you. We want to facilitate for you. So did you feel”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, that's what the president said when he was asked President Bush as to what happened. Willie said the plan was to keep the Iraqi army. Then he was asked, Then what happened? He said, Well, I don't know, asked Steve Hadley. I mean, that's what his national security advisor. No, I have great respect for President Bush. He honored me with the opportunities he gave me. And he's a great American. But I think he wasn't served well by the guy.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You're putting all of that aside. Dissolve the army, get 500,000 people who know how to use armed. You don't even pay their salaries. They are people of, they have respect in their communities. They are important people. And all of a sudden, They can support their families, they can't feed them, they've lost their position in society. And on top of that, you do it as if we were a Nazi Germany. We do a deep debatification. Affecting another several hundred thousand people negatively. So we create circumstances for a huge problem that is your sense that”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I have concluded that they did not serve the country well. Not having a serious multi meetings not one as to deliberate on this. We had deliberated for months before with briefings that you, I mean, you've been in government. The Pentagon is one thing that it's good at. A lot of meetings. A lot of meetings, a lot of slides. So therefore, all of that was done.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And he makes these decisions. And if you ask Secretary Powell, Secretary Rice, National Security Advisor at that time, and you asked the vice president, you asked Secretary of Defense Rams, all of whom I've spoke with for my book and the envoy. As to in what meeting was this discussed to dissolve the army and what was the pros and cons that were being debated? No one recalls it.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“One path was that as soon as we go as in Afghanistan, we would. Based on what the work I had done and based on my experience in putting a government together in Afghanistan after we went there, that we would do that, that we would put the Iraqi government, we'll keep the Iraqi army, reform it, and Managed security, the Iraqi army, and this Iraqi government without help will take responsibility The army was disbanded. We declared ourselves as the occupying power. We appoint someone from Washington to go run Iraq. Paul Bremer.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“That's what mine, but the Mistake that we made in Iraq, in my view, was what we did after the invasion. We had a plan. I mean, a lot of people say there was no plan for what to do afterwards. Wrong. There was a plan. The mistake was we abandoned the plan and went in a different direction. And to this day it's not clear why that happened, in which meeting that was decided, who was advocating for it, and where were the principles, advising the president.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Antony Belera had a huge impact on President Bush by presenting this proposition and therefore that Iraq had to be dealt with. But putting that aside on the debate, the fights internally we had, whether we needed to do it right then, or let's get Afghanistan in a better place. And then if Iraq is not...”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I personally couldn't be as attentive to my responsibility as the president envoy with Afghanistan as I was being constantly also asked to do things such as what you refer to as Kandi to get the Iraqis. To come together on a vision for the future, should there be a change? Should we invade Iraq? I do not believe that the President Bush told the intelligence community to make up the intelligence with regard to Iraqi WMD. And 9-11 had a big effect on the attitude that if important problems are percolating, they could Become even faster and become bigger, so you better deal with it in a timely manner”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Question your assumptions prepare for alternatives. Plans, when they meet reality don't work, others are not billiard ball or human beings, institutions, they can adjust, they can change. So the complexity is what I take away from that experience.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Admire their land may have contributed the destruction of the Soviet Union maybe would have been worth it. Estelle, I am of the view that, and I argued actually, I don't want to kind of praise my own record on this when I was there in the government. And this included some of our most brilliant Sovietologists that assumed that, and people like Zig Brzezinski, God bless him, who said, don't waste your time about Apostol in Afghanistan. There would be no post-Soviet Afghanistan because of the experience of Poland and other places. Why are we assuming that the Soviets would then have to prevail? So that's a lesson that I take away that always.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But he was. Yeah, he was there and we were aware of, in fact, we encouraged even Arabs to come. And fight because Osama was not an Afghan, he was an Arab. And we wanted to see a cost that the Soviets would pay vis- ⁇-vis the Muslim world, the Arab world in terms of what they were doing to their brother and Muslim brother and Afghanistan. But that assumption that they would prevail was at the root of it. Imagine if we had assumed that, no, the Soviets might withdraw and there could be a post-Soviet Afghanistan, maybe we would have been more selective. Now, some people have argued that regardless of the cost that we have paid since the damage that we did to the Soviet Union, which may have contributed.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But we made an assumption about the future of the Soviet invasion in Afghanistan that was reasonable. And since we are at the University of Chicago, it's very important to question always your assumption. But we made an assumption that was reasonable but turned out to be wrong. That assumption was that given the size of the Soviet Union and the size of Afghanistan, given the history of how Soviet Union used force when a neighboring state became pro-Soviet, which was that once you joined the Soviet bloc, there's no way out. The Prezhenev doctrine was dominant. So we assume that the Soviets would ultimately prevail in Afghanistan. As I said, was reasonable, but the Soviets did not prevail, but the effect of that assumption was that we didn't think about a post-Soviet Afghanistan because we didn't think there would be a post-Soviet Afghanistan. And what we did, we assisted any and all groups who wanted to go and fight.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“You still have family there. I had family there. In fact, I began to write initially under a pseudonym in the New York Times and Washington Post commenting on what was going on because I had family there. You were afraid that they would be affected. They would be affected. But then we got them out. But I was obviously very much personally concerned.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Well, I think when the Soviets invaded Afghanistan, I was actually still at the University of Chicago when it happened on my way to Columbia. We at the United States under the Carter administration and then continued under Reagan came to a judgment that we need to confront the Soviets for this aggression. And there was an assumption at that time.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“Technology offers digital technology opportunity for inclusive economic development, for helping millions of poor who are not part of the formal economy in the world. But yet who owns the data even in those countries? How could the people who produce the data should benefit from it?”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And a new opportunity. And we need to adjust to both I think we face challenges at home from these changes in technology. Famously. Famously at this day”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“I'm a strong believer given my own background and that no religion, no ethnic group, no race is destined not to become democratic for those reasons. And so therefore it's the kind of where you are in the evolution in terms of all the other issues who's being helped. Even sectarianism, while it's a force, it is being fanned as part of geopolitical rivalry. That's an instrument. There are two”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“For a time, it does. These are phases that others have gone through. Think of Europe. During the Catholic Protestant wars, the three years wars that tore the European monarchies apart and then they overcame it through An agreement on some rules that Australia system, the state system that is now under challenge. By sort of newly rising powers who don't have the same conception of the desirable order is a post-Catholic process and war product between Catholic and Protestant monarch. So yes, in the age of sectarianism in the Islamic world and the age of rise of ethnic politics Promoting Building democratic order even by local Democrats face greater challenges that if those were not as powerful as they are at the present time. But history would tell us that even those can be overcome over time, that you have to persist. And I believe that”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We need to think through how do we In helping encourage democracy, democratic political systems bring about level playing fields for liberal Democrats, for a democratic movement, while authoritarian systems. Islamist systems, authoritarian Islamist system Would have ways to interfere, and now with the digitization of the world kind of cyber has become also a space and instrument in this regard, as we saw in our own elect”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“We used to do it at the beginning of the Cold War with European democratic parties, but then we made some mistakes and then a law was passed that we shall not interfere in elections. And that has been interpreted that we cannot support democratic parties financially to have a level playing field to compete with others. And you have to do a finding you've served in the White House. In order to do that, and a finding has to be brief to several members of Congress, and that immediately gets leaked and it defeats. The purpose because the agency through which you can do that is an intelligence agency.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“But I think while Minimizing and reforming the problem by rethinking how this can be done more effectively. I continue to believe that democracy among all the alternatives is the best form, that it's now the easy. It takes effort. It's not going to be a straight line that it's going to be setbacks. And you need to adjust to succeed. And there are things we need to do better. I'll give you a quick example. For example, in Iraq, we spend every month when I was ambassador billions on military side. But we had a lot of civil society groups that we encouraged. But when it came to political parties, Elections which we insisted on as soon as possible, the neighbors were supporting Islamist parties. You will be surprised if I told you that I didn't have a penny to support several. Because”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“And because even some of our friends in the Middle East. Who feared the success of democracy in Iraq that this could be contagious and spread, they were also That's a dilemma, isn't it? A significant dilemma.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source
“People who are against democracy have used Insecurity and corruption. Attack The very concept of a democracy for some places in particular circumstances are the right approach or whether you get more security if you lived in an authoritarian society.”
2018-04-16 · The Axe Files with David Axelrod · Ep. 234 - Zalmay Khalilzad · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT · source