Marie McNair
Scottish National Party · Scotland
“They provide not only advice and support but a voice, ensuring that those affected are heard in this Parliament and beyond. Since my debate last year, we have, sadly, lost two central figures in the fight for truth and justice: David Colraine, a founding member of the Clydebank Asbestos Group; and former MP for Clydebank and Milngavie, To…”
“Mesothelioma is a disease that is rooted in our industrial history, but its impact is still being felt today in Clydebank, across Scotland and throughout the United Kingdom. It reminds us of the human cost of that history and of our responsibility to those who have been affected.”
“Across the United Kingdom, there are around 2,700 new cases each year, including more than 200 in Scotland. However, statistics alone cannot convey the reality of the disease. In my hometown of Clydebank, the issue is deeply personal. Clydebank has paid one of the heaviest prices anywhere in the United Kingdom for asbestos exposure.”
“I say in the strongest terms that knowingly exposing people to a deadly substance without adequate safeguards is not neglect; it is an abhorrent criminal act. The legacy of asbestos is not confined to the past. It continues to affect people across the United Kingdom today.”
“Those are not abstract figures; they represent hundreds of families in one community who have lost loved ones. Clydebank was once described as the mesothelioma capital of Europe.”
“I have campaigned hard on what I have described as the disgraceful three-year time bar, which has denied justice to some victims of asbestos-related disease.”
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“Given how essential the A9 is to Scotland, it is vital that we improve the safety and reliability of the route for road users across the Highlands and beyond. Will the cabinet secretary provide an update and expand on the recent discussions of the national road safety strategic partnership board and outline the steps that the Scottish Government is taking to drive forward safety improvements across Scotland’s trunk road network? Fiona Hyslop: The statement was specifically about the A9, and the A9 safety group continues to meet. Some of the consequences regarding safety improvements that I mentioned in my statement came from that group. Any death on any of our roads is regrettable.”
“It plays a key role in supporting access to higher education and supporting our young people to achieve positive destinations with their lives.”
“How many people have benefited from free tuition in Scotland under the Scottish National Party? Do you agree that protecting free tertiary education in Scotland is vital to creating opportunities for people across Scotland? The Deputy Presiding Officer: Always speak through the chair, please. Richard Lochhead: Both members who have spoken have mentioned the importance of education. Marie McNair is right to highlight the benefit of free higher education in Scotland. Analysis of data from the Student Awards Agency shows that around 740,000 students have benefited from free tuition on higher education courses between 2007-08 and 2024-25. Our policy on free tuition ensures that access to education is based, as we have said many times before, on the ability to learn and not on the ability to pay.”
“In the short term, it would be welcome to see the Scottish Government working with the Scottish Legal Aid Board to progress reforms that do not require primary legislation, including proceeding with measures to increase the fees paid to legal practitioners. It is welcome that the Scottish Government has already announced reforms to make the legal aid system simpler for both solicitors and those who need legal assistance and that it recognises the need for further reform to ensure that Scotland has a modern and responsive system to provide services as efficiently as possible. No one should be left without access to justice, so it is essential that we push forward and ensure that civil legal assistance is delivered effectively in Scotland. 15:11”
“I appreciate that the Government will continue to work on legal aid fee structures, with the aim of implementing reforms that promote fairness, sustainability and responsiveness to case complexity. The committee has agreed that there is an urgent need for action to improve the delivery of civil legal aid assistance and, in turn, to improve access to justice. However, it recognised that it is now too late in this session of Parliament to introduce primary legislation to reform civil legal assistance. The Scottish Government agrees with the committee’s view that long-term structural reform of civil legal assistance is needed.”
“The committee is clear that legal aid deserts cannot be allowed to persist in Scotland. On a second and connected point, the committee then explored what is causing the shortages in the number of legal practitioners that are, in turn, creating those legal aid deserts. The main finding was that such shortages could be attributed to low rates of fees for solicitors for legal aid work and that increasing those rates would have a significant impact on the availability of legal practitioners. The disincentives to working within the legal aid system were also seen as putting unmanageable strain on the remaining services and increasing work-life balance issues. The committee welcomes the Scottish Government’s recognition of the need to build capacity.”
“Throughout the inquiry, it was understood that there is an urgent need for reform of civil legal assistance. A key concern was the prevalence of so-called legal aid deserts, as described by Pat Thom, president of the Law Society of Scotland. We refer to legal aid deserts in relation to both geographical areas and particular areas of law, including those relating to asylum seekers, immigration and employment. The situation is exacerbated by the lack of quantity among practitioners. In the context of domestic abuse the position in rural areas can also be challenging. As has already been mentioned, Dr Marsha Scott of Scottish Women’s Aid highlighted that Grampian Women’s Aid is making between 50 and 60 calls just to find one legal aid solicitor. That means that people cannot exercise their legal rights, which is a real problem.”
“Presiding Officer, I take this opportunity to wish you and everyone in the Parliament a happy and healthy new year. As we know, it will be a busy one for everyone. As a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. I thank the committee’s clerks for their assistance with producing the report. I am also grateful to all the stakeholders and witnesses for taking the time to submit their views on the issue. As has been mentioned, because of concerns about the declining number of solicitors in Scotland who offer legal aid, the committee agreed to undertake an inquiry into civil legal assistance. It is of the utmost importance that we ensure that such assistance is delivered effectively in Scotland so that there is better access to justice for all.”
“To ask the Scottish Government how it is supporting Forestry and Land Scotland to protect the Kilpatrick hills. (S6O-05294)”
“It is vital that we work together with the community to tackle the barriers, improve their lives and deliver the 2015 act’s objectives. 15:48”
“I welcome the fact that the Scottish Government published an equalities impact assessment alongside the mental health and wellbeing workforce action plan to help to identify and form actions that are needed to address inequalities in the mental health and wellbeing workforce. That specifically included action on promoting BSL resources. I am pleased that the Scottish Government’s “British Sign Language (BSL): national plan 2023 to 2029” represents its continuing commitment to making Scotland the best place in the world for BSL users to live, work, visit and learn. I am also pleased that, overall, the Scottish Government has accepted in full the vast majority of our recommendations. It is clear that the BSL community should be at the heart of our decision- making process to ensure that we get things right.”
“are currently working with BDA Scotland to look at what facilities they currently have in place for BSL patients and service users and how they can improve and develop in this area”. On healthcare, particularly mental health services, some further concerns were raised that warranted further discussion. For example, the committee invited the Scottish Government to respond to concerns that were raised by BDA Scotland and the Health and Social Care Alliance Scotland—the ALLIANCE—about the need for a robust approach to ensuring that older deaf BSL users have access to appropriate services and care packages. It also invited a response on the ALLIANCE’s comments about the likelihood of the number of deafblind people increasing and its calls for an increase in the number of social workers for the deaf.”
“I welcome the fact that, in her response, the Deputy First Minister noted that the Scottish Government continues “to engage with Deaf Links and the Sign Loud team at Heriot Watt University and University of Edinburgh, a project focused on experiences of domestic abuse and communication barriers, to consider deliverables that will make a difference to Deaf women within the new Equally Safe Delivery Plan.” The committee agrees that consideration should be given to how emergency services should be alerted to the fact that a person is deaf before attending an emergency call to enable interpretation to be provided, even if that is initially done online. I welcome the fact that the Deputy First Minister’s response notes: “The Scottish Ambulance Service ...”
“The cause of that is “potential perpetrators using their hearing status as part of the power dynamic”.—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 3 June 2025; c 58.] The committee agrees with our witnesses that deaf women in particular should have better access to education and information about their rights and the law and that deaf-specific service providers would help to achieve that. Therefore, the committee invited the Scottish Government to consider what further steps could be taken in that regard.”
“As we approach the end of the 16 days of activism against gender- based violence, it is important to touch on that part of the report in particular. I express my sincere thanks to Lucy, a deaf domestic abuse survivor, who provided important testimony on the barriers that BSL users can face when engaging with the police and courts. Progress was noted under the access to justice actions in the national plan, but, in her evidence, Professor Napier, chair of intercultural communication and associate principal of research culture at Heriot-Watt University, said that several issues that would improve access for BSL users in the legal system had not been addressed. Professor Napier noted that research in the USA estimated that deaf women are two to three times more likely to experience domestic abuse than hearing women.”
“The 2015 act was a landmark piece of legislation for this country. By enshrining British Sign Language in primary legislation, it acknowledged deaf citizens as a distinct language community. The committee welcomed the positive feedback that was received on the impact that the act has had in improving the daily lives of BSL users. I am pleased that it was noted that it has helped to increase the language’s visibility and to empower deaf BSL users to access services and participate in society using their preferred language. However, there are some challenges, and a number of key themes emerged during the evidence sessions. For the sake of time, I will touch on only two of those. Justice was a key policy area to arise in the discussions, particularly for deaf people with experience of domestic abuse.”
“I speak in today’s debate as a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee. I thank the clerks for their assistance in the production of the report and all those who submitted their views on the subject. I welcome our guests in the public gallery. Ten years on from the British Sign Language (Scotland) Act 2015, the committee decided to hold a short inquiry to consider the actions that have been taken by the Scottish Government and the public authorities that are listed in the act to tackle the barriers that BSL users face. We focused on two things in particular: first, whether the act, the current BSL plan and listed authority plans are improving the lives of BSL users; and, secondly, what changes could be made in the short and long terms to improve the lives of BSL users.”
“To ask the First Minister what assessment the Scottish Government has made of the potential implications for its work to eradicate child poverty in Scotland of the UK Government’s child poverty strategy. (S6F-04525)”
“That work seeks to accelerate the Scottish Government’s strategic approach to tackling the issue, including how it further strengthens its approach to addressing online misogyny. We know that we will see real change only when those who perpetrate domestic abuse, the majority of whom are men, change their behaviours and actions. We need to educate boys from an early age about respect for women, consent and empathy for others. That is an invaluable tool to tackling this abhorrent issue and changing societal behaviour. Imagining a Scotland without gender-based violence should not be difficult. It is achievable, and I am pleased to see the work that is being done on it by the Scottish Government. It is vital that we continue the momentum and unite to ensure that women and girls can live a life free from fear and violence. 15:52”
“That is simply not acceptable. Digital violence is the fastest-growing form of abuse against women and children worldwide. The development of digital technologies such as artificial intelligence poses new risks for women and girls, such as the development of deepfakes. Action is required across all policy areas, with Government and tech companies all working together to respond to the added risks that that may pose to women. I therefore welcome the fact that the Scottish Government is giving the issue absolute priority and is working to deliver the equally safe strategy for preventing and eradicating violence against women and girls. I am pleased that it has established an internal policy group on technology-facilitated violence against women and girls, in recognition of the cross-cutting nature of the issue.”
“Through the equally safe fund, the Government will provide £21.6 million to 115 projects that focus on preventing and eradicating violence against women and girls. Gender-based violence is a harsh reality that is experienced by our mothers, sisters, daughters and friends. It knows no bounds and it significantly impacts the individual and even wider society. The theme of the 16 days this year, led by UN Women, is “UNiTE to end digital violence against all women and girls”. It reminds us that violence is not just physical; it follows survivors into digital spaces. It highlights the growing threat of online harassment, image-based abuse and digital coercive control. Digital spaces should be safe for everyone but, unfortunately, they are not. I know that many of my female colleagues have faced online abuse in their role as MSPs.”
“Clydebank is a clear example of why it is vital that we unite local and national efforts in tackling this issue, and that is why I am glad this year to support the reclaim the night march in Clydebank, which is organised by Clydebank Women Supporting Women and the youth charity Y Sort-It. The march will allow us to stand together in solidarity, raise awareness and challenge violence against women and girls in Clydebank and beyond. My sincere thanks go to Clydebank Women Supporting Women and Y Sort-It for organising that important event. I welcome the fact that the Scottish Government has taken a number of steps to legislate for action on domestic abuse, including the Domestic Abuse (Scotland) Act 2018, which created a specific offence of domestic abuse that incorporates coercive and controlling behaviour.”
“I worked closely with that organisation for more than 20 years, so I know how tirelessly it has worked and how much of an impact it had on the lives of those most in need. Women, children and young people deserve to live a life free of fear and violence, and Clydebank Women’s Aid has been a crucial source of support for those who have experienced domestic abuse. The closure was a real blow to our town, and I am extremely disappointed that that decision was made and that the organisation was not better supported with secure funding from the Labour-run West Dunbartonshire Council. It has left Clydebank vulnerable without a vital service, which is why I am speaking today to push for more for my town to ensure that it is not left behind in cross-party and cross-Government efforts to end violence against women and girls.”
“I am grateful for the opportunity to speak in this important debate during the 16 days of action to end gender-based violence. It is up to us all to work together to prevent and end violence against women and girls and we must also address the underlying attitudes and systems that perpetuate it. To do that, we must unite our efforts across local, national and third sector plans to fully tackle violence against women and girls. West Dunbartonshire, which is part of my constituency, continues to have the second highest rate of domestic abuse in Scotland. For many decades, a key source of support throughout my constituency was Clydebank Women’s Aid. I have mentioned its superb work in previous speeches but, unfortunately, it announced its closure earlier this year.”
“The Presiding Officer: That concludes the ministerial statement. I will allow a few moments for those on the front benches to organise themselves before we move on to the next item of business. Violence against Women and Girls”
“We have collaborated with international partners, including Australia, which has provided funding to support the delivery of the games. I am very grateful for that and was able to pass that on to the Australian representatives at the general assembly. Glasgow has been able to step in in a way that other cities might not have been able to, precisely because of that reputation and the infrastructure that we have in place, and we should be incredibly proud of that fact. We now have more than 3,000 volunteers, some as young as 16, coming forward to take part. The experience that they will gain from their involvement in a major event, which they can take into other major events and can even build a career around, is another part of the lasting legacy of hosting such a major event.”
“Glasgow has built a track record of hosting successful events and has become a world-class hosting destination with the necessary facilities and expertise for delivery, and we must celebrate this opportunity to host the games. The cabinet secretary touched on that in his statement, but will he expand on the importance to Scotland’s international reputation of Glasgow’s developing position as a global sports hub? Neil Gray: Glasgow has a significant reputation for hosting major sporting events. We have had the world indoor athletics championships, the world cycling championships, the European championships and the previous Commonwealth games, all of which have put Scotland at the very top of the international major events landscape. We should be incredibly proud of that.”
“In Scotland, our approach is to work together where we can, and that has worked well with United Kingdom Government departments in the past. Such partnerships have existed and could exist again, but that requires all parties, including the UK Government, to work together to ensure that our communities feel safe and that they are included and respected in the decisions that are taken on this very sensitive issue. Social Housing (Greenock and Inverclyde) 8.”
“I thank the cabinet secretary for that reassurance, but will she please reaffirm the Scottish Government’s priority to ensure that anyone who is accommodated in Scotland is treated with dignity and compassion, that they receive the wraparound support that they require and that local communities are engaged in the process? Shirley-Anne Somerville: It is very difficult to provide reassurance when the Home Office is responsible for that asylum accommodation and is unable to provide reassurance to the Scottish Government or the many local authorities and NHS boards that are involved. That makes it exceptionally challenging to reassure people who are seeking asylum or the communities that are already present in an area.”
“Overall, the committee supports the premise of the bill, which is to improve young people’s rights, and a majority supports the general principles of the bill. That said, significant amendments will be necessary, as serious points have been raised on both part 1 and part 2. Therefore, I support the bill progressing to stage 2 but note that much work requires to be done on the bill to further the rights of children. 15:46”
“to progress with the right for children to object to their parents withdrawal of them for RO/RME alone.” We would welcome the cabinet secretary giving further consideration to that point. On the bill’s compatibility with the UNCRC, a majority of the committee recognises that it would have been preferable if the bill had been drafted in such a way as to bring its provisions within the scope of the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Act 2024. On part 2 of the bill, which seeks to amend the 2024 act so that public bodies do not face a conflict between complying with the act and other Scottish legislative duties, the committee notes that there are very strong concerns about the rationale for it, the precedent that it would set and whether the bill is an appropriate vehicle for the provisions.”
“As a result, the committee has urged the Scottish Government to “reflect further on this approach and to bring forward amendments at Stage 2 to provide that withdrawal only applies to RO.” Nevertheless, the purpose of the bill is to increase children’s rights, and it was noted that the majority of those who offered a view on whether the bill should be amended to include an independent right for children to opt out of RO and RME supported giving children that right. However, respondents to the Scottish Government consultation differed in their support for an independent right to withdraw from RO, so most of the committee felt that “it would be more appropriate ...”
“Claire Benton-Evans of the Scottish Episcopal Church put it best when she stated: “our children need to understand other faiths, beliefs and cultures if they are to grow up in the diverse, inclusive and tolerant society that we want in Scotland.”—[Official Report, Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, 30 September 2025; c 10.] Indeed, the evidence from stakeholders across the board was clear on that point, as both faith-based and secular organisations argued for removing the option to withdraw from RME from the bill.”
“We received helpful evidence from many different stakeholders, and the committee is of the view that religious observance and religious and moral education should be separated in the bill. Most of the committee agreed that they are distinct, with RO being about worship and RME being about education. With the rise of political figures who are intent on division, it is of the utmost importance that young people continue to be educated about different cultures, faiths and practices. That is not the same as worshipping in accordance with those faiths. I believe that it is essential that young people learn as much as they can about different historical events and about different countries and cultures, so that they can transition into a diverse world.”
“To give some context, section 9 of the Education (Scotland) Act 1980 gives parents the right to withdraw their child from both religious observance and religious and moral education in schools. The purpose of the bill is to give greater autonomy to young people when a parent has made a request to withdraw a pupil from instruction in religious observance or religious and moral education. When that occurs, the school must inform the pupil about the request and must consider the pupil’s view as part of the withdrawal process. I will touch first on part 1 of the bill, which focuses on withdrawal from religious observance and religious and moral education in schools.”
“As a member of the Equalities, Human Rights and Civil Justice Committee, I welcome the opportunity to speak in the debate. I thank the clerks for their assistance in drafting the stage 1 report. I am also grateful to all stakeholders and witnesses for taking the time to submit their views on the issue and for their helpful briefings. As has been mentioned, the bill has two main objectives: first, to require schools to consider pupils’ views when parents withdraw them from religious observance and religious and moral education; and, secondly, to amend the United Nations Convention on the Rights of the Child (Incorporation) (Scotland) Act 2024 so that public authorities do not face a conflict between complying with the act and adhering to other Scottish legislative duties.”
“Again, I thank Clare Adamson for bringing the debate the chamber. 13:14”
“As stated by Pancreatic Cancer Action, it is essential that the work and learning from developing and delivering the pancreatic cancer and hepatocellular carcinoma pathway and the Scottish hepato-pancreato-biliary service are incorporated and built on as fast as possible. We must ensure that we focus on the next steps and urgently consider how the benefits demonstrated can be delivered as a priority. Finally, I pay tribute to my constituents who have, sadly, lost their lives because of pancreatic cancer. Helen, Donald, Billy and Christine will forever be missed by family, friends and loved ones, but they will never be forgotten, and that applies to many others, too. We must work together in their memory to do everything that we can to raise awareness of that disease and to save lives.”
“According to the Less Survivable Cancers Taskforce, Scotland is leading the way on such cancers by identifying them as a strategic priority in the 10-year cancer strategy. If we can translate that into action that results in earlier and faster diagnosis, I hope that we will see significant improvements. I also welcome the Scottish Government provision of funding from April 2022 to March 2024 for the then pancreatic cancer and hepatocellular carcinoma pathway improvement project. According to Pancreatic Cancer Action, the data from the project has been encouraging and improvements have been demonstrated. Where do we go from here? Given that time really is of the essence for those who have this cruel and devastating disease, it is crucial that we support and get input from those with lived experience and expertise.”
“That is why I reiterate the common symptoms for the benefit of anyone who is listening: the whites of the eyes, or the skin, turning yellow; itchy skin; darker pee; poo that is paler than usual; loss of appetite; losing weight without trying to; feeling tired or having no energy; and having a high temperature or feeling hot or shivery. It is vital that we push for long-term investment in research to ensure that we can beat those low survival rates. Currently, pancreatic cancer receives only 3 per cent of UK research funding. More investment and time are needed so that we can ensure fast identification of those who have pancreatic cancer. We can all agree that more must be done, because this remains one of the deadliest forms of cancer. However, despite those challenges, advances have been made.”
“Unfortunately, pancreatic cancer is the deadliest common cancer and is often referred to as a “silent killer”, because its early symptoms are difficult to spot. As has been mentioned, around 900 people in Scotland are diagnosed with pancreatic cancer each year, with most being diagnosed too late for effective treatment. Sadly, half of those who are diagnosed with that deadly disease will die within three months and 93 per cent will die within five years. Those extremely low survival rates are largely due to late-stage diagnosis and limited access to robust diagnostic and treatment resources.”
“I am grateful to my colleague Clare Adamson for bringing this important debate to the chamber during pancreatic cancer awareness month to mark today’s world pancreatic cancer day. Since being elected in 2021, I have spoken in all the debates that my colleagues Clare Adamson and Willie Coffey have brought to the chamber on this topic—it is one on which I will always speak up. I extend my sincere thanks to the amazing charities, such as Pancreatic Cancer Action and Pancreatic Cancer UK, to the Less Survivable Cancers Taskforce and to other dedicated organisations. I welcome them all here today. They are at the forefront of raising awareness and fighting for better outcomes for those with pancreatic cancer, and I thank them for that.”
“To ask the Scottish Government what action it is taking to encourage businesses to implement the real living wage, in light of reports that Scotland’s level of real living wage employers is, proportionately, five times that of the United Kingdom as a whole. (S6O-05155)”
“To ask the Scottish Government when it last met with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities or the education trade unions to discuss concerns about the presence of asbestos in school buildings. (S6O-05149)”
“Therefore, it is welcome to note that, following that research, Make 2nds Count launched a UK clinical trial registry, which is a one-stop shop for trials that are suitable for breast cancer patients. My sincere thanks go again to Breast Cancer Now and Make 2nds Count for all their outstanding work, and to my constituent for taking the time to meet me and to explain the importance of collecting data for secondary breast cancer. In memory of those we have lost too soon, we must continue to work together and strive to improve outcomes and survival rates for those living with metastatic breast cancer. 17:57”
“I back their calls for the Scottish Government to ensure that it fulfils its commitment to improve data collection on metastatic cancers, given that breast cancer is one of the leading causes of death in women under 50. It is vital that we do everything that we can to beat the disease, and that includes collecting the data that is needed. It is also essential that those who are impacted have good access to clinical trials. Research that was carried out by Make 2nds Count and Professor Janet Dunn, head of cancer trials at Warwick clinical trials unit, found that the majority of secondary breast cancer patients have never had a conversation with their clinician about clinical trials. However, the metastatic and secondary breast cancer survey also demonstrated that patients are keen to be involved in research but face barriers to inclusion.”
“As noted by Breast Cancer Now, without proper data, thousands of people are missing from and not counted in statistics, not planned for by NHS Scotland and not guaranteed to get the treatment and care that they need. That is crucial—without the data, we will always be limited in how we can improve things. According to Breast Cancer Now, by not counting them, we leave people with secondary breast cancer feeling that they just do not count. Breast Cancer Now is joined by Make 2nds Count in calling for improved national data collection, better access to specialist care and increased investment in research and support services. I thank both groups for their work to support patients and families in pushing for change.”
“Of course, it would be remiss of me to speak today without mentioning my dear colleague Christina McKelvie, who we sadly lost to metastatic breast cancer. Christina was strong and passionate about tackling inequality and injustice. After seeing her battle, we must all strive for greater awareness and for more effective research for those affected by this cruel disease. We cannot accept anyone else losing their life to breast cancer. I recently met one of my constituents, who is a breast cancer nurse, to discuss breast cancer awareness and to push for more to be done. During our discussion, my constituent urged me to call for better data collection for those who live with incurable secondary breast cancer.”
“I am grateful to my colleague Emma Harper for securing this incredibly important debate. I also thank those who have joined us tonight in the public gallery for their support. It is very much appreciated. Last month, I spoke in my colleague Clare Adamson’s debate for breast cancer awareness month. In my speech, I called for more to be done to beat secondary breast cancer, for which there is currently no cure. As I mentioned, approximately 1,000 women in the UK die each month due to secondary breast cancer, with an estimated 4,000 people in Scotland impacted by it. I agree with Breast Cancer Now that this is a matter of urgency and that we must dramatically improve outcomes for those whose cancer has spread.”
“To ask the Scottish Government, regarding its plans for mitigation, how the United Kingdom Government’s two-child benefit cap is impacting children in Clydebank and Milngavie. (S6O-05115)”