Marie McNair
Scottish National Party · Scotland
“They provide not only advice and support but a voice, ensuring that those affected are heard in this Parliament and beyond. Since my debate last year, we have, sadly, lost two central figures in the fight for truth and justice: David Colraine, a founding member of the Clydebank Asbestos Group; and former MP for Clydebank and Milngavie, To…”
“Mesothelioma is a disease that is rooted in our industrial history, but its impact is still being felt today in Clydebank, across Scotland and throughout the United Kingdom. It reminds us of the human cost of that history and of our responsibility to those who have been affected.”
“Across the United Kingdom, there are around 2,700 new cases each year, including more than 200 in Scotland. However, statistics alone cannot convey the reality of the disease. In my hometown of Clydebank, the issue is deeply personal. Clydebank has paid one of the heaviest prices anywhere in the United Kingdom for asbestos exposure.”
“I say in the strongest terms that knowingly exposing people to a deadly substance without adequate safeguards is not neglect; it is an abhorrent criminal act. The legacy of asbestos is not confined to the past. It continues to affect people across the United Kingdom today.”
“Those are not abstract figures; they represent hundreds of families in one community who have lost loved ones. Clydebank was once described as the mesothelioma capital of Europe.”
“I have campaigned hard on what I have described as the disgraceful three-year time bar, which has denied justice to some victims of asbestos-related disease.”
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“I suppose that new Scots integration—I am sorry, Presiding Officer, but I have lost the thread of Marie McNair’s question, although I am doing my best to answer the substance of it. Is it okay if she repeats the question for me? The Deputy Presiding Officer: I am afraid that we cannot go backwards, minister. Jackie Baillie: It was about new Scots integration. Kaukab Stewart: Thank you. As I said, the new Scots integration plan has been widely acclaimed and acknowledged as an example of good practice. It is shared equally—we worked with third sector stakeholders and with COSLA—and is multiportfolio, covering areas such as health, transport and education. We believe that it is an excellent example that the UK Government could learn from.”
“I welcome the new Scots integration strategy launched by the Scottish Government last year. Will the minister update Parliament on the implementation of that strategy and on how it is working with the Convention of Scottish Local Authorities and the Scottish Refugee Council to ensure that the lived experience of refugees and people seeking asylum is central to its delivery? Kaukab Stewart: As I said in my opening remarks, the Scottish Government completely rejects the language and proposals of Nigel Farage, who has threatened mass deportation for people who have rightfully come to the UK and have established their lives, work and families here as part of our communities.”
“To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on how it is supporting adults with attention deficit hyperactivity disorder to access medication. (S6O-04913)”
“A constituent of mine sadly lost her niece to methanol poisoning a few years ago. Since then, the family has campaigned to get the dangers of methanol included as a mandatory part of personal, social, health and economic education in England. Will the First Minister join me in reiterating the dangers of methanol poisoning and confirm whether the Cabinet Secretary for Education and Skills will meet me to discuss what more can be done to raise awareness in Scottish schools?”
“It can be a very dangerous and difficult time for them. Therefore, I am pleased that we have been able to commit to rolling out the fund to leave on a national basis. We know from our piloting of the fund that it has a positive impact. Women who are experiencing domestic abuse will be able to apply for a grant to pay for the essentials that they need when leaving a relationship with an abusive partner. We believe that the £1 million investment in our new national fund could help 1,200 women and their children to do just that.”
“I welcome the cabinet secretary’s return to Parliament and wish her well in her new role. It is clear from the recent evidence on domestic abuse that the Social Justice and Social Security Committee took that women’s experience of homelessness is very different from that of men. Therefore, the response to their housing needs should be very different. Will the cabinet secretary say more about how the Scottish Government is working to support women who are fleeing domestic abuse as a key part of addressing homelessness pressures? Màiri McAllan: As I said in my statement, domestic abuse is the leading cause of homelessness for women in Scotland. That is unacceptable to this Government. There are many barriers that can prevent someone who is experiencing domestic abuse from deciding and being able to leave that relationship.”
“To ask the First Minister what assessment the Scottish Government has made of the latest Office for National Statistics inflation statistics and any implications for its work to support low-income households. (S6F-04230)”
“To ask the Scottish Government how it is working with NHS Greater Glasgow and Clyde to meet the demand for attention deficit hyperactivity disorder and autism assessments. (S6O-04857)”
“That is such a great way to remember those we have lost, and I commend the group for it. We must deal with asbestos on all fronts, and we must support those who are diagnosed with mesothelioma and other asbestos-related illnesses by offering help when it is needed. I promise that I will continue to do everything in my power to work to achieve everything that we can in our fight for truth and justice. 12:55”
“The time is now to support victims. They cannot wait any longer, because time is not on their side. I will soon bring a motion to Parliament on the issue, with wording agreed with the Clydebank Asbestos Group and other campaigners. I hope that, like the motion today, it will receive the widest possible cross-party support. Action mesothelioma day serves as a chance to commemorate all those who have been lost to this cruel disease. In Clydebank, we have the international asbestos memorial, which sits in the centre of Clydebank, in Truth and Justice Square. Clydebank Asbestos Group recently opened an online memorial, which was launched on international workers memorial day. The online memorial is open to anyone who would like to commemorate a loved one who has died from an asbestos-related illness.”
“Cape Intermediate Holdings was one of the largest asbestos companies in the world and was reported to have played a large part in the increase of asbestos-related diseases and mortality across the UK. After a lengthy court battle, documents were obtained proving that Cape hid the true dangers of its asbestos products in the 1960s and 1970s, resulting in many people dying. Altrad has a moral obligation to right some of that wrong, and donating to research would be a good start. It has so far refused to meet those demands, but Clydebank Asbestos Group has been pushing forward tirelessly with the campaign. It recently attended protests at the rugby world cup, which featured two teams that were sponsored by Altrad. Along with Clydebank Asbestos Group, I will continue to push to see justice achieved from Cape.”
“My partnership with Clydebank Asbestos Group is strong and has shared goals in the campaign for truth and justice on issues such as a more compassionate and responsive social security system compared with the system previously provided by the Department for Work and Pensions, and the phased removal of asbestos from public buildings, starting with schools. I am firmly on CAG’s side in support of the Cape must pay campaign. Never has there been a stronger example of greed for private profit being put before the safety of workers. Unfortunately, that is the motivating factor in so many cases of asbestos exposure and the exploitation of workers. The campaign demands that Cape Intermediate Holdings, which is owned by Altrad, donates £10 million to mesothelioma research.”
“That is an appalling injustice, so it is welcome that the Scottish Law Commission has published a report on the issue, which recommends resolving the pleural plaques time bar problem so that an asymptomatic condition such as pleural plaques will no longer result in a time bar preventing recovery of damages for a later developing symptomatic condition such as mesothelioma. The potential for people to be denied justice because of the three-year time bar has no place in a just compensation system, which is why I have secured a meeting with Clydebank Asbestos Group and the Minister for Victims and Community Safety, Siobhian Brown, to progress the issue. We want the Scottish Government to implement the recommendations as soon as possible, because justice delayed is justice denied.”
“Held this year on 4 July, it is a national event to raise awareness of asbestos and mesothelioma, to raise vital funds to support research into tackling mesothelioma and to remember and support those who have been impacted by the disease. In last year’s debate, I highlighted the disgraceful three-year time bar that has denied justice for those who receive a diagnosis of mesothelioma. That time bar means that, if a person is diagnosed with pleural plaques—a usually asymptomatic condition—they have three years to raise a claim for damages, even if they later develop mesothelioma.”
“Kate’s passing is a huge loss and she will be incredibly missed by all who knew her. Kate chose to volunteer with CAG when she retired, and was drawn to the charity because of her support for her father, following a diagnosis of an asbestos-related disease. I am so grateful for Kate’s dedication and commitment to supporting victims of asbestos exposure and their families over many years. Clydebank, which is my home town and part of my constituency, has an appalling asbestos legacy. It was once described as the mesothelioma capital of Europe. That is why action mesothelioma day is so important to my constituents and our town.”
“Clydebank Asbestos Group, which I am grateful to have a close working relationship with, has been working hard for my constituents for the past 33 years, and is always there for victims and their families at the time of greatest need. I am so appreciative to have the group in my constituency, and I will be forever grateful to it for the work that it does. Mesothelioma is a cancer that is usually caused by exposure to asbestos fibres. I congratulate ActionMeso and all the support groups up and down the country on their efforts to raise awareness of the disease. Unfortunately, since our previous meso debate, we have sadly lost our amazing volunteer Kate Ferrier, on Hogmanay last year. Kate was a volunteer with Clydebank Asbestos Group for more than five years and, shortly after joining, took up the post of secretary.”
“I am pleased to lead, for a fourth year, the debate on action mesothelioma day. Members will know the huge importance of the issue to me and my constituents. The debate is an important chance to raise awareness of this cruel disease and to highlight where we still need to push for action. I thank colleagues from across the chamber for supporting my motion and for speaking in the debate. The issue deserves cross-party support, so it is very welcome that that has been achieved. I ask everyone to join me in welcoming people from Clydebank Asbestos Group and Asbestos Action to our national Parliament. It really means a lot to have them here to support today’s event. Both groups have been assisting asbestos victims for many years and have campaigned relentlessly for truth and justice.”
“Clearly, we are very concerned about the delay to the child poverty task force report, because that seems to suggest that the action that comes from the report will also be delayed. We have asked for clarity from the task force co-chairs in order to get at least some idea of what might be in the report, so that we know its impact on children and what we can do with the UK Government to support even more children.”
“I thank the cabinet secretary for advance sight of her statement. What engagement has the cabinet secretary had with the Secretary of State for Scotland about the development of a UK-wide child poverty strategy? Shirley-Anne Somerville: The Parliamentary Under-Secretary of State for Scotland joined the most recent ministerial task force meeting on 14 May. The work that the UK Government has undertaken through the child poverty task force on a four-nation basis has been exceptionally disappointing. It has not allowed for the level of in- depth discussions that the Scottish Government wished to see and expected, given the discussions between the First Minister and Prime Minister about a resetting of relationships when the new UK Government came in.”
“However, multiyear carbon budgets provide a more reliable framework for sustained progress in emissions reduction by not only smoothing out volatility but allowing us to move to a carbon budget framework, as supported by the Climate Change Committee following its success in the UK and in other countries. It advised that carbon budgets are the most appropriate indicator of underlying progress in emissions reduction.”
“The Scottish Government has now adopted a carbon budgeting system to measure emission reduction targets alongside the rest of the United Kingdom and international counterparts such as France and Japan. Can the minister say any more about the lessons learned from the use of the carbon budgeting systems in those countries and how they have informed the Scottish Government’s approach? Alasdair Allan: As we have seen in recent years—not least during Covid—annual emissions targets are highly vulnerable to in-year fluctuations such as cold winters and, indeed, global pandemics. That does not mean that we will not produce annual figures; we are doing that, and I have just outlined them to Parliament.”
“Meanwhile, the UK Labour Government is betraying Scotland’s businesses with a tax on jobs and broken promises on energy bills. On the world stage, there can be no better investment than investment in Scottish innovation. We have the talent, skills and resources to be a major player, but we are constantly hampered by successive UK Governments. Scotland needs the full powers of an independent nation, within the European Union, to allow us to fully flourish, and we need that now. 16:21”
“There are so many more that I could mention. To ensure that we deliver truly meaningful support, it is vital that we continue to listen to and learn from our entrepreneurs and the business community. I am therefore proud that the Scottish Government is taking that approach and is committed to delivering a support network that nurtures talent and helps businesses to thrive. The SNP is acutely aware of the pressures that businesses across the country face and is taking decisive action to offer support, despite our limited powers and having to work with a challenging budget. Therefore, it is welcome that the Scottish Government will invest up to £34.7 million in entrepreneurship, innovation and social enterprise in 2025-26, which represents a 50 per cent increase compared with the 2024-25 budget.”
“Most recently, POTR secured a new partnership with Waterhaul, allowing it to meet increasing demand for its ocean pots, which are built from discarded fishing gear. That is an incredible innovation, with sustainability truly at its heart. I would like to mention another constituent, Kim Burgess, who also won a Scottish EDGE award and secured £10,000 for her novel personal protection approach for anyone who might feel vulnerable in public. The product comprises a highly visible deterrent that has the potential to revolutionise personal safety and ensure that the most vulnerable groups in society feel safe and confident. When I met Kim, I was so impressed by her invention, and I commend her entrepreneurial talent. Those are a select few examples of people in my constituency, and I am delighted by each and every one of their achievements.”
“I was therefore really impressed when I met Clydebank’s Happy Leaf, which was founded in 2022 by Amy Roberts and Iain Quinn. In 2023, it received a Scottish EDGE award of £10,000 to develop a smart sensor that is placed in the soil of a plant and it sends messages to a phone app explaining what care the plant needs. That is a novel idea and I am sure that many will make great use of it. Last year, I met Milngavie’s Andrew Flynn, co- founder of POTR. POTR was also successful in the Scottish EDGE award, securing a £100,000 investment to create what is believed to be the world’s first self-watering origami plant pot. Since that time, it has achieved a life-changing deal to sell the plant pots in Japan, and it has secured momentous deals to sell with Bloom & Wild, Uncommon Goods and John Lewis.”
“I am pleased to speak in the debate in support of the Scottish Government’s ambition to establish Scotland as one of Europe’s fastest- growing start-up economies. It is also an opportunity to highlight the fantastic entrepreneurial spirit in my constituency. Scotland is home to some of the world’s brightest business minds, and we have a proud history of invention—from television to telephone, and from penicillin to colour photographs. Looking ahead, the Scottish Government is committed to empowering entrepreneurs and innovators across our country. In my constituency of Clydebank and Milngavie, I am proud to have met some of our excellent entrepreneurs and innovators. As I have only four minutes, I can mention only a few. I know that many of my colleagues will agree that caring for a plant can often be challenging.”
“As part of that investment, we are funding and supporting programmes to address gender-based violence and sexual harassment in our schools. That includes £1.89 million over four years to Rape Crisis Scotland to support the implementation of equally safe at school and the continued delivery of the national sexual violence prevention programme. In the past 10 years, the national sexual violence prevention programme has reached more than 135,000 young people.”
“Violence has no place in Scotland’s schools. I welcome the £2 million additional investment from the Scottish Government to address youth violence and the carrying of weapons in and around schools. It is clear that we continue to see challenges in relation to misogynistic behaviour and gender-based violence in wider society. Will the cabinet secretary comment further on the Government’s work on the issue and on how the Scottish budget delivers on the priorities of the equally safe strategy? Jenny Gilruth: We are fully committed to eradicating violence against women and girls. This year, we are investing £21.6 million in the delivering equally safe fund, supporting 115 projects from 107 organisations that focus on early intervention and prevention, as well as support services.”
“Amendment disagreed to. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The final question is, that motion S6M-17648, in the name of Gillian Martin, on growing community-owned energy in Scotland, as amended, be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division. The vote is closed.”
“For Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab) McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) Against Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con) FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Rona Mackay] Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Jamie Hepburn] McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Regan, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con) Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division on amendment S6M-17648.2, in the name of Patrick Harvie, is: For 29, Against 85, Abstentions 0.”
“Amendment agreed to. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The next question is, that amendment S6M-17648.2, in the name of Patrick Harvie, which seeks to amend motion S6M-17648, in the name of Gillian Martin, be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.”
“On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes. The Deputy Presiding Officer: Thank you, Ms McNair. We will ensure that that is recorded. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adam, Karen (Banffshire and Buchan Coast) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP) Gilruth, Jenny (Mid Fife and Glenrothes) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) [Proxy vote cast by Ross Greer] Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Rona Mackay] Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab) Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Jamie Hepburn] McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Rennie, Willie (North East Fife) (LD) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) Against Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Liam (North East Scotland) (Con) Kerr, Stephen (Central Scotland) (Con) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) Regan, Ash (Edinburgh Eastern) (Alba) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con) Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division on amendment S6M-17648.1, in the name of Sarah Boyack, is: For 84, Against 29, Abstentions 0.”
“To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide further details of its initial assessment of the potential impact of the United Kingdom Government’s immigration plans on Scotland’s care sector. (S6O-04693)”
“On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not refresh. I would have voted yes. The Presiding Officer: We will ensure that that is recorded.”
“Presiding Officer, there is an error in amendment 78, which should refer to leaving out line 22 on page 149 of the bill, rather than line 23. With your agreement, I have lodged a manuscript amendment, amendment 78A, to correct that error. I ask members to support the amendments in my name. I move amendment 68.”
“Amendment 69 allows the SSDT to instead take into account decisions and determinations in respect of previous complaints when it is deciding whether the censure of a solicitor is to have effect for a specified period only and whether to direct the solicitor to pay a fine or undertake training or to order their practising certificate to be subject to certain conditions. Amendment 74 makes a broadly equivalent amendment in respect of the powers of the SSDT on appeal. Amendments 68, 70 to 73, 76, 77, 80 and 81 make minor changes to tidy up provisions following changes made at stage 2. The bill amends the 1980 act to enable the Law Society to appeal to the Court of Session against decisions of the SSDT to dismiss a complaint without inquiry. Amendments 78, 79 and 107 move those provisions from schedule 4 to the 1980 act into a new section.”
“That mirrors the approach taken in relation to the disclosure of information about complaints by the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission and relevant professional organisations, and it provides the SSDT with additional flexibility in relation to publishing information about cases. The bill currently makes provision allowing the SSDT to take decisions and determinations relating to previous complaints into account when deciding whether a solicitor has been guilty of unsatisfactory professional conduct. The SSDT considers that that is inappropriate.”
“The Deputy Presiding Officer: Group 12 is on “Complaints: Solicitors (Scotland) Act 1980”. Amendment 68, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendments 69 to 78, 78A, 79 to 82 and 107. Siobhian Brown: Amendment 75 replaces with a regulation-making power the Scottish ministers’ order-making power to increase the maximum amount that the SSDT can fine a solicitor in certain circumstances, which was inserted at stage 2. That reflects modern practice and is consistent with other ministerial regulation-making powers provided by the bill. Amendment 82 restricts the SSDT from publishing any information that identifies or is likely to identify any person other than the solicitor against whom the complaint was made, unless it is considered to be in the public interest to do so and that person consents.”
“For example, an interdict could be sought to prevent a person from pretending to be a lawyer, a regulated legal services provider or a member of the Faculty of Advocates. The Government recognises that interdict could be an effective remedy in preventing the continuance of that kind of deceptive behaviour as a matter of urgency, and could be a useful tool for a regulator. I ask members to support the amendments. I move amendment 59. The Deputy Presiding Officer: As no other member has asked to speak, do you want to say anything by way of wind-up, minister? Siobhian Brown: No. Amendment 59 agreed to. Section 91—Interpretation Amendment 138 not moved. Schedule 1 Amendments 60 to 64 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to. Schedule 3 Amendments 65 to 67 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to.”
“Tess White: I have nothing further to add, other than that I am pleased to hear that the amendment is supported on a cross-party basis. I will press the amendment. Amendment 137 agreed to. After section 88 The Deputy Presiding Officer: Group 11 is on interdicts. Amendment 59, in the name of the minister, is grouped with amendment 113. I call the minister to move amendment 59, and speak to both amendments in the group. Siobhian Brown: Amendments 59 and 113 respond to concerns raised by the Faculty of Advocates. The amendments put beyond doubt that it is competent for the civil remedy of interdict to be sought with a view to preventing the carrying out of an act that is subject to criminal law penalties under the Solicitors (Scotland) Act 1980 and the Legal Services (Scotland) Act 2010.”
“Stakeholders are widely supportive of a post- legislative review, which, I hope, will give all parties involved an opportunity to take stock and recommend further changes in the public interest. Regulatory issues must not get lost in the weeds for years to come, which is why I urge colleagues to support amendment 137. I move amendment 137. Siobhian Brown: I am pleased to have worked with Tess White on her amendment 137, which will require the Scottish ministers to undertake a review of the principal changes to the regulation of legal services arising from the legislation. I am grateful to Ms White for taking on board my concerns, and I am content to support the amendment. The Deputy Presiding Officer: I invite Tess White to wind up and to press or withdraw amendment 137.”
“That point was made by the Competition and Markets Authority in its stage 3 briefing, which urged “regular statutory review to assess whether” the act “is meeting the needs of consumers”. Many of the issues that arise in the regulatory system have occurred because so much time has passed since the Solicitors (Scotland) Act 1980 was added to the statute book. The Regulation of Legal Services (Scotland) Bill is therefore long overdue. The Law Society has been campaigning for change for at least a decade. Given that the bill has been so heavily amended, there is a strong case, too, for ensuring that it is operating as expected within what is a fragmented legislative landscape, and that it serves the interests of consumers.”
“Amendment 137 creates a statutory post-legislative review of the act, to begin no later than 10 years after the commencement of sections 8, 39, 52 and 78. It requires the Scottish ministers to consult regulators of legal services, consumers of legal services and the Scottish Legal Complaints Commission as part of that review, and it leaves the door open for other individuals and organisations to be consulted, too. Following the raising of concerns at stage 2 about the length of the review period, I have agreed with the minister that 10 years is an appropriate length of time and that it should begin from the commencement of specific sections of the bill rather than royal assent. Post-legislative scrutiny is important; however, in the case of the regulatory framework for legal services, it is essential.”
“The vote is therefore tied. As is usual when the Parliament has not been able to reach a decision, I am obliged to exercise a casting vote. I will not make the decision for the Parliament; the established convention is to vote in favour of the status quo, because the chair is required to act impartially. I therefore cast my vote against the amendment. Amendment 42 disagreed to. Amendments 43 to 48 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to. Section 86C—Recovery of expenses of intervention Amendments 49 to 58 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to. After section 87 The Deputy Presiding Officer: Group 10 is on review of the act. Amendment 137 is the only amendment in the group. Tess White: I thank the minister for her constructive engagement on amendment 137 following stage 2.”
“For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Rona Mackay] Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Jamie Hepburn] McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) Against Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Sarwar, Anas (Glasgow) (Lab) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) 17:00 The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 59, Against 59, Abstentions 0.”
“Amendment 38 agreed to. Amendments 39 to 41 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to. Amendment 42 moved—[Siobhian Brown]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 42 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.”
“For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Rona Mackay] Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Jamie Hepburn] McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Nicoll, Audrey (Aberdeen South and North Kincardine) (SNP) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) Against Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Sarwar, Anas (Glasgow) (Lab) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 59, Against 55, Abstentions 0.”
“Amendment 34 agreed to. Amendments 35 to 37 moved—[Siobhian Brown]—and agreed to. Amendment 38 moved—[Siobhian Brown]. The Deputy Presiding Officer: The question is, that amendment 38 be agreed to. Are we agreed? Members: No. The Deputy Presiding Officer: There will be a division.”
“On a point of order, Presiding Officer. My app would not connect. I would have voted yes. The Deputy Presiding Officer: Thank you, Ms McNair. I will make sure that that vote is recorded. For Adam, George (Paisley) (SNP) Adamson, Clare (Motherwell and Wishaw) (SNP) Allan, Alasdair (Na h-Eileanan an Iar) (SNP) Arthur, Tom (Renfrewshire South) (SNP) Beattie, Colin (Midlothian North and Musselburgh) (SNP) Brown, Keith (Clackmannanshire and Dunblane) (SNP) Brown, Siobhian (Ayr) (SNP) Callaghan, Stephanie (Uddingston and Bellshill) (SNP) Coffey, Willie (Kilmarnock and Irvine Valley) (SNP) Constance, Angela (Almond Valley) (SNP) Dey, Graeme (Angus South) (SNP) Don-Innes, Natalie (Renfrewshire North and West) (SNP) Doris, Bob (Glasgow Maryhill and Springburn) (SNP) Dornan, James (Glasgow Cathcart) (SNP) Dunbar, Jackie (Aberdeen Donside) (SNP) Ewing, Annabelle (Cowdenbeath) (SNP) Ewing, Fergus (Inverness and Nairn) (SNP) Fairlie, Jim (Perthshire South and Kinross-shire) (SNP) FitzPatrick, Joe (Dundee City West) (SNP) Forbes, Kate (Skye, Lochaber and Badenoch) (SNP) Gibson, Kenneth (Cunninghame North) (SNP) Gougeon, Mairi (Angus North and Mearns) (SNP) Grahame, Christine (Midlothian South, Tweeddale and Lauderdale) (SNP) Gray, Neil (Airdrie and Shotts) (SNP) Harper, Emma (South Scotland) (SNP) Haughey, Clare (Rutherglen) (SNP) Hepburn, Jamie (Cumbernauld and Kilsyth) (SNP) Hyslop, Fiona (Linlithgow) (SNP) Kidd, Bill (Glasgow Anniesland) (SNP) Lochhead, Richard (Moray) (SNP) MacDonald, Gordon (Edinburgh Pentlands) (SNP) MacGregor, Fulton (Coatbridge and Chryston) (SNP) Mackay, Rona (Strathkelvin and Bearsden) (SNP) Macpherson, Ben (Edinburgh Northern and Leith) (SNP) Maguire, Ruth (Cunninghame South) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Rona Mackay] Martin, Gillian (Aberdeenshire East) (SNP) Mason, John (Glasgow Shettleston) (Ind) Matheson, Michael (Falkirk West) (SNP) McAllan, Màiri (Clydesdale) (SNP) [Proxy vote cast by Jamie Hepburn] McKee, Ivan (Glasgow Provan) (SNP) McLennan, Paul (East Lothian) (SNP) McMillan, Stuart (Greenock and Inverclyde) (SNP) McNair, Marie (Clydebank and Milngavie) (SNP) Minto, Jenni (Argyll and Bute) (SNP) Robertson, Angus (Edinburgh Central) (SNP) Robison, Shona (Dundee City East) (SNP) Roddick, Emma (Highlands and Islands) (SNP) Somerville, Shirley-Anne (Dunfermline) (SNP) Stevenson, Collette (East Kilbride) (SNP) Stewart, Kaukab (Glasgow Kelvin) (SNP) Sturgeon, Nicola (Glasgow Southside) (SNP) Swinney, John (Perthshire North) (SNP) Thomson, Michelle (Falkirk East) (SNP) Todd, Maree (Caithness, Sutherland and Ross) (SNP) Torrance, David (Kirkcaldy) (SNP) Tweed, Evelyn (Stirling) (SNP) Whitham, Elena (Carrick, Cumnock and Doon Valley) (SNP) Whittle, Brian (South Scotland) (Con) Yousaf, Humza (Glasgow Pollok) (SNP) Against Baillie, Jackie (Dumbarton) (Lab) Baker, Claire (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Balfour, Jeremy (Lothian) (Con) Bibby, Neil (West Scotland) (Lab) Boyack, Sarah (Lothian) (Lab) Briggs, Miles (Lothian) (Con) Burgess, Ariane (Highlands and Islands) (Green) Burnett, Alexander (Aberdeenshire West) (Con) Carlaw, Jackson (Eastwood) (Con) Carson, Finlay (Galloway and West Dumfries) (Con) Chapman, Maggie (North East Scotland) (Green) Choudhury, Foysol (Lothian) (Lab) Clark, Katy (West Scotland) (Lab) Cole-Hamilton, Alex (Edinburgh Western) (LD) Dowey, Sharon (South Scotland) (Con) Duncan-Glancy, Pam (Glasgow) (Lab) Eagle, Tim (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Findlay, Russell (West Scotland) (Con) Fraser, Murdo (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Gallacher, Meghan (Central Scotland) (Con) Golden, Maurice (North East Scotland) (Con) Gosal, Pam (West Scotland) (Con) Grant, Rhoda (Highlands and Islands) (Lab) Greene, Jamie (West Scotland) (LD) Greer, Ross (West Scotland) (Green) Griffin, Mark (Central Scotland) (Lab) Gulhane, Sandesh (Glasgow) (Con) Hamilton, Rachael (Ettrick, Roxburgh and Berwickshire) (Con) Harvie, Patrick (Glasgow) (Green) Hoy, Craig (South Scotland) (Con) Johnson, Daniel (Edinburgh Southern) (Lab) Halcro Johnston, Jamie (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Lennon, Monica (Central Scotland) (Lab) Leonard, Richard (Central Scotland) (Lab) Lumsden, Douglas (North East Scotland) (Con) Mackay, Gillian (Central Scotland) (Green) Marra, Michael (North East Scotland) (Lab) McCall, Roz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) McNeill, Pauline (Glasgow) (Lab) Mochan, Carol (South Scotland) (Lab) Mountain, Edward (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Mundell, Oliver (Dumfriesshire) (Con) O’Kane, Paul (West Scotland) (Lab) Ross, Douglas (Highlands and Islands) (Con) Rowley, Alex (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Lab) Ruskell, Mark (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Green) Sarwar, Anas (Glasgow) (Lab) Simpson, Graham (Central Scotland) (Con) Slater, Lorna (Lothian) (Green) Smith, Liz (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Smyth, Colin (South Scotland) (Lab) Stewart, Alexander (Mid Scotland and Fife) (Con) Sweeney, Paul (Glasgow) (Lab) Villalba, Mercedes (North East Scotland) (Lab) Wells, Annie (Glasgow) (Con) White, Tess (North East Scotland) (Con) Whitfield, Martin (South Scotland) (Lab) Wishart, Beatrice (Shetland Islands) (LD) The Deputy Presiding Officer: The result of the division is: For 59, Against 58, Abstentions 0.”
“Since launching free bus travel for under-22s, 800,000 cards have been issued to young people, who have taken 218 million free journeys. The budget includes an allocation of £3 million for the flat-fare pilot, which is due to commence in January 2026 and will continue. We are also at the early stages of developing a fare-cap pilot. I can see that I am being wound up for time, Presiding Officer. The Presiding Officer: Thank you. Alexander Stewart has a brief supplementary.”