Stuart McMillan
Scottish National Party · Scotland
“Can the cabinet secretary provide any details about when funding will be in place to replace the Port Glasgow health centre with a new health hub? Can she advise when there will be investment to improve the fabric of Inverclyde royal hospital?”
“Will the member give way? Mark Simpson: I would love to. Stuart McMillan: Reform’s policies are about taking money out of the public sector, but Mr Simpson is now asking for more money to be spent on throughcare support. Where is that money coming from? I am genuinely interested to know.”
“Millions of people globally are impacted by climate change today, and that will also be the case for future generations, as has already been touched upon by Sanne Dijkstra-Downie.”
“It is important that they are successful in delivering the heat that we all need, but the issue of their environmental impact is also vital. District heating systems play an important role in communities up and down the country, but they come in a range of scales. Are they operating effectively?”
“I touched on the CPA a minute ago, and the issue of AI data centres has been raised time and again at both international and regional conferences. We are not the only people who are talking about the issue. Helpfully, it is on the agenda for this year’s festival of politics.”
“I look forward to the contributions from MSPs in the open debate, which I am sure will help the committee’s discussions on Thursday, when we meet for the first time, and during the rest of the parliamentary session. I will touch briefly on three items, for wider consideration.”
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“After Scotland, the next host of the Commonwealth games will be India. Can the cabinet secretary say a little bit about the opportunity to build economic and cultural links with India and how the Scottish Government is working to enhance that relationship? Neil Gray: That is an important aspect. We recognise that the delivery of the games is fundamentally important, as they are a major sporting event that can showcase the best of Scotland and Scottish sport, as well as international athletes who are coming and the links that we can have with other countries. I extend publicly my congratulations to Ahmedabad in Gujarat in India on being recommended as hosts for the 2030 Commonwealth games.”
“We seek to avoid that happening by taking a very flexible and adaptive approach to the delivery of the affordable homes supply programme fund, including my officials being able to move money around to where it can be spent and where homes can be delivered. On the specific question of Inverclyde, I have emphasised a number of times the importance that the Government places on the urgent delivery of affordable homes across Scotland, and I would be pleased to meet Mr McMillan and the associations should the need arise. The Deputy Presiding Officer: That concludes portfolio question time on social justice and housing. Urgent Question 17:23”
“Stuart McMillan: The cabinet secretary will be very much aware of the lack of RSL house building in my constituency, with £19 million of funding for new builds being handed back to the Scottish Government over the past two years. I appreciate that the Scottish Government cannot mandate RSLs to build new properties, but will the cabinet secretary agree to meet local RSLs and engage with them directly on the urgent need for new social housing and not for flatted dwellings to be built in order to help deal with the housing emergency? Màiri McAllan: I do not want to see any underspend or money coming back to the Government when it comes to the delivery of affordable homes, albeit I understand that certain issues will always arise that might make development difficult.”
“To ask the Scottish Government what discussions it has had with registered social landlords in the Greenock and Inverclyde constituency regarding the lack of new social homes being built. (S6O-05221) The Cabinet Secretary for Housing (Màiri McAllan): My officials have regular discussions with RSLs and Inverclyde Council to discuss the delivery of affordable homes in the authority area. The most recent meeting took place in early November with River Clyde Homes and Inverclyde Council, and discussions focused on current priorities and future planning. We are making £9.7 million available for affordable homes in Inverclyde this financial year.”
“I dearly hope that she is, because today’s budget is an incredibly strong budget, and she delivered an incredibly strong budget speech. It has set a new trajectory for the country. It has made strategic interventions on poverty for people in Scotland, and it is setting the economy on the right road.”
“[Made a request to intervene.] Michael Marra: I am happy to give way to Mr McMillan. Craig Hoy: The member is happy to take an intervention from someone who is not in the chamber. Michael Marra: I did not know that he was not here. The Deputy Presiding Officer: We do not seem to have Mr McMillan now. Please just continue, Mr Marra. Michael Marra: What a shame. On we go. The Chancellor and the whole of the Labour Party have been very clear from the start that none of this is easy and that a country cannot be fixed overnight. Craig Hoy: Will the member give way? Michael Marra: Certainly, Mr Hoy. Craig Hoy: Does Mr Marra believe that Rachel Reeves will be in her job this time next year? Michael Marra: Absolutely.”
“Key powers over industry, trade, industrial relations, employment law and energy are all in Labour’s hands. That is why it is vital that we remain steadfastly behind the renewable energy revolution and maximise the investment and opportunities that it will bring. If Westminster repeats the mistakes of the past and allows Scotland’s immense natural resources to be mismanaged, we will all risk the same fate. I do not want other communities to suffer 44 years of decline and— The Deputy Presiding Officer: Thank you. I call Graham Simpson to speak for up to two minutes. 15:41”
“Fundamentally, the energy profits levy should be scrapped and a proportionate tax regime should be established. There was a time when oil and gas giants were making windfall profits in the UK, but that is not the case now. They are global companies, and the vast majority of their profits are made outwith the UK. All that the windfall tax is doing is costing jobs and driving a more rapid decline in the North Sea. In a nation that is as energy rich as Scotland is, it should be a disgrace that so many of our citizens are so energy poor— and every single MSP should be appalled at that. Although Labour promised to cut energy bills by up to £300 per year, the reality is that bills have risen and the blame lies squarely at Westminster’s door.”
“The SNP amendment states: “and recognises that communities in Scotland are now paying the price of the UK Conservative administration’s levy on Scottish industry.” My only challenge to my party on that amendment is that the energy profits levy is the present-day equivalent of what the Tories do to Scotland any time that they are in power. The systematic demolition of industry and communities, or the raking in of finance from cash-cow communities when it suits them, will always be fair game to the Conservatives. Whether under the Conservatives or Labour, Westminster has failed to provide the oil and gas industry with certainty or stability. That approach is in direct opposition to supporting jobs and the just transition, which would safeguard energy security and lower bills.”
“The enterprise zone that was installed delivered some successes, but very little was of long standing. My community suffered as a consequence of a Conservative Administration that was hellbent on destroying working-class communities. I do not want that to be replicated in the north-east of Scotland—where some of my family now live, as they were forced to get on their bikes as per the demands of Norman Tebbit. The energy profits levy was useful in the short term, but the fact that the past Conservative Government never replaced it with something more sustainable is yet another example of the utter chaos that was emblematic of the Conservatives’ time in government.”
“Douglas Lumsden stated earlier that Scotland needs a transition based on reality, and I very much agree. The cabinet secretary has previously highlighted her family background as coming from Clydebank. She was right to highlight the absolute carnage that was wrought on the communities along the banks of the Clyde when the shipbuilding industry was decimated by the Conservatives in the 1980s. Communities such as mine are still struggling to fully deal with that. There has been 44 years of population decline because industry was shut down. Thousands of jobs were lost and yards were torn down, with retail units, fast food outlets, some offices and flats being built in their place. Those facilities are cleaner than the shipyards and heavy engineering that once stood there, but there was no concept of a just transition at that time.”
“Every MSP recognises the economic impact that the oil and gas sector has had on the wider economy since the 1970s. Clearly, there has also been an environmental impact. Although the sector is based in the north-east, it involves workers from across the country, in addition to companies in the supply chain. Therefore, the debate on the oil and gas sector and the energy sector as a whole is for every MSP. I have family who work in the sector or who have previously worked in it, and I have friends who work in the sector. I have long since heard their concerns about the sector’s future. I recognise that their views on renewable energy are not that positive, but that is not the case for every worker in the oil and gas sector. It is essential that the just transition happens.”
“We will progress a number of initiatives, including through PACE and training, and we will consider whether new projects can be phased in to ensure that we do not lose any important skills.”
“Scotland’s energy industry workforce is one of our greatest assets, irrespective of where those people live. It is vital that we support skilled workers who are key to our energy security and to the delivery of a just transition. What immediate steps is the Scottish Government taking to identify options for retaining those critical skills and to protect the livelihoods of those affected? Kate Forbes: Options for retaining skills are uppermost in my mind. As I mentioned earlier, we hear frequently about the importance of skills as part of the just transition—in fact, I think that there will be a debate on that tomorrow. Supporting workers who have the skills that we need is uppermost in my mind.”
“Warmer Homes Scotland provides grant-funded installation of measures such as insulation and heating systems for eligible households, which helps to cut bills. I have mentioned a number of times our grant and loan scheme, which provides grants and interest-free loans to help homeowners to install energy efficiency measures. I must also mention our area-based schemes and our social housing net zero fund, which help to accelerate energy efficiency and clean heat projects across communities for domestic properties, ensuring the progress at scale that is needed to complement our other schemes. The Presiding Officer: That concludes the statement. I will allow a moment or two for members on the front benches to reorganise before we move on to the next item of business. Alexander Dennis Ltd”
“I recognise that demand for the Scottish Government’s heat in building schemes has risen in recent years. Can the cabinet secretary provide more detail on the support packages that are available for households that are looking to move to clean heat? Can she advise members on how much funding the Scottish Government has allocated to those schemes in this parliamentary session thus far? Màiri McAllan: I have said on a number of occasions that the total amount is about £1.67 billion, but it might be helpful if I expand slightly on how I would suggest that households move to clean heat or work to improve their energy efficiency. Home Energy Scotland is an excellent first port of call, offering free and impartial advice on energy efficiency, renewable heating and fuel poverty support in Scotland.”
“I am comfortable talking about it, but there are circumstances that should not be open for public debate and discussion. I appreciate that that provision mirrors a council mechanism, but that is also not a hard and fast rule in councils, where there is also the ability to have extenuating circumstances understood and appreciated. Why should a member of a council have to divulge private circumstances that they do not feel they should have to just to continue in their role? I wanted to touch on that small detail, but we will support the general principles of the bill. 16:18”
“It is not right that our constituents have fewer means of removing a representative who has broken their trust than are available in other Parliaments. Therefore, I absolutely support the principle of the bill and I look forward to working through the detail at stage 2 to ensure that it is clear, proportionate, legally sound and not open to political misuse. As I said in my opening remarks, I want to touch on one detail, namely the requirement for attendance, with non-attendance seeming to be a ground for removal from office. Many members will know that my daughter was born very prematurely. I have not added up the time, but I might well have spent more than six months away from the Parliament. At the time, I was supported by colleagues, staff and business managers to be where I needed to be, with my newborn baby.”
“I do not think that it would be acceptable, and I do not think that the public would find it acceptable, if some parliamentarians were subject to recall but we at least seemed to be voting down the principle of being able to be held to account by the public in the same way. I absolutely agree with the minister’s comments. I have been a member of the Parliament since 2011, and I know that the vast majority of colleagues across every party understand that serving here is both a privilege and a responsibility, but we cannot ignore the fact that a very small minority have not lived up to those standards. Some have caused harm to the very people they were elected to serve. When that happens, the public deserve far more than an apology or an internal sanction.”
“The principle is simple: if we ask the public to trust us, we must also have a mechanism to hold us to account when that trust is broken. People in the wider UK have that ability through the Recall of MPs Act 2015, and it is right that the Scottish Parliament has a similar power adapted for our system. Graeme Dey: Does the member agree—I suspect that he will—that the optics of the Parliament rejecting the bill at stage 1 would be terrible and would send the signal that we do not believe that we require to be held to the same level of accountability as colleagues at Westminster and the Senedd? Mark Griffin: Yes, and that is exactly the point that I just made.”
“I acknowledge that we, as politicians, have been part of the problem, but through our actions, comments and deeds, we can also be part of the solution. Mark Griffin: I absolutely recognise that. The burden falls on us more than on anyone. In fact, it falls almost exclusively on us to rebuild the falling trust in politicians and political standards, but I was going to say that that trust comes from two sources: honesty, showing that we uphold the high standards that are expected of us as public servants; and accountability, demonstrating that there are consequences when we fail to live up to those standards. We already have strong codes of conduct and a robust process via the Standards, Procedures and Public Appointments Committee, but this bill will give the public the final say when that bond of trust is broken beyond repair.”
“Before we move to the next item, there will be a brief pause to allow a change of front-bench members. Scottish Parliament (Recall and Removal of Members) Bill: Stage 1”
“That is coupled with workforce shortages across the care sector that have been exacerbated by a significant decline in the number of health and care visas that are being granted by the Home Office—there was a 77 per cent drop in the year to June 2025. We are working closely with partners to understand the impact of those issues, to identify further mitigating actions and, at the same time, to improve hospital flow and reduce delayed discharge. That is critical. The money that we are announcing today will be targeted at the local systems that are most in need in order to deliver faster discharge and better integration with social care. Alongside that, record funding of £15 billion for local authorities in 2025- 26 will help to strengthen resilience. The Deputy Presiding Officer: That concludes this item of business.”
“The cabinet secretary will share my concerns about the pressures that Scotland’s social care sector faces this winter—pressures that have been exacerbated by Labour’s increase to employer national insurance contributions. We know that social care workers play an invaluable role in our communities, so will the cabinet secretary outline what steps the Scottish Government is taking to ensure that NHS boards improve flow from hospitals to social care settings, and set out what additional support is being put in place to support the social care sector? Neil Gray: Social care providers face real financial pressures from the UK Government’s increase to employer national insurance contributions, as Stuart McMillan highlighted, which is expected to cost the sector an additional £84 million.”
“To ask the Scottish Government, further to its consultation on proposals to introduce new licensing regulations covering a range of animal- related activities, what discussions it has had with Police Scotland and Trading Standards Scotland. (S6O-05092)”
“At the time, the United Kingdom Government made it clear to the Scottish Government that it welcomed the Scottish Government’s participation in international development activity because it recognised the scale of the challenge that was involved. This Parliament embraced that, which I welcome, and that is the foundation of the answer to Mr McMillan’s question.”
“In an increasingly interconnected world, international development is a necessity, including in Commonwealth countries, where our Parliament plays an important role through the Commonwealth Parliamentary Association. Will the First Minister set out why international support is so important for Scotland and the world? The First Minister: As I set out in my statement, the issues that affect Scotland and the issues that affect the global south are interconnected. We have to ensure that the actions that we take as a good global citizen assist in resolving some of the extraordinarily acute challenges that people in the global south face. That underpins our policy approach. I go back to the discussions that took place 20 years ago in this Parliament.”
“If that does not happen, sadly, the situation that we are facing in Scotland and elsewhere across the UK will continue. The Deputy Presiding Officer: Mr McMillan, you will need to conclude. Stuart McMillan: Okay, Presiding Officer. I support my constituency and I genuinely support the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service but, my goodness, the proposals that I have mentioned need to be scrapped. The SFRS must think again and come forward with something that will secure the safety of my constituents. 16:35”
“The fact that Inverclyde stations are serving other areas suggests that reducing the number of appliances for the whole- time firefighters in my area will only increase the strain on the existing staff. Safety is paramount, and I do not trust that the current proposals will make Inverclyde and the Greenock and Inverclyde constituency safer. I will finish with a brief comment on funding. We have had 14 years of austerity. Anas Sarwar claimed at his party’s conference this week that Labour has ended 14 years of austerity. If that is the case, what was announced in June in the UK spending review? I urge the UK Labour Government not to continue with that austerity. It should stop the austerity and ensure that more money goes into public services such as the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service and other public services across the UK.”
“Half of Port Glasgow station covers the area up to Dargavel in Bishopton, in addition to elsewhere in the Inverclyde local authority area. Response times, which have already been mentioned, are clearly a hugely important part of the discussion. If Gourock station staff are having to go to Largs regularly, the addition of 650 homes on the Inverkip power station site will not help with the response times—it is complete folly and utter madness. That is why the decision by the Inverclyde Council planning committee to give the go-ahead for those homes is going to make the situation worse. Approval has also been given for additional housing at Spango Valley in Greenock, which is not going to help at all.”
“Stuart McMillan: I will in two seconds. Actually, I have only four minutes, but I will come back to address the Tories—don’t you worry. The current annual budget is more than £97 million higher than it was in 2017-18. Notwithstanding the additional resource over that period, however, the increase still does not guarantee the security and safety of my constituents in Greenock and Inverclyde, because both of the consultation’s proposed options will have a negative impact on the number of whole- time firefighters locally. I do not believe that the proposals will strengthen the on-call service, notwithstanding the various recruitment initiatives that the Fire and Rescue Service has planned. Gourock’s on-call station regularly attends calls in Largs in North Ayrshire, because the on-call station at Skelmorlie cannot always send a crew.”
“I approached the consultation with an open mind as I am acutely aware that time does not stand still and the delivery of public services also changes. If we delivered public services today in the way that we did 20, 30 or 40 years ago, there would quite rightly be a public outcry, and I am quite sure that we would be debating that in the chamber. I was reassured that the changes have not been made as a result of a reduction in budget, as was suggested at the Port Glasgow public meeting. The local MP tried to make the accusation that the consultation was happening as a result of cuts, which was quickly rebutted. For the record, I note that, since 2017-18, there have been substantial year-on-year increases in funding to support the Fire and Rescue Service. Liam Kerr: Will the member take an intervention?”
“This is an important debate. I took part in the public consultation and have informed my constituents that I do not support the proposals for Inverclyde. To inform my submission to the Scottish Fire and Rescue Service’s service delivery review consultation, I engaged with constituents, visited Inverclyde’s three fire stations and spoke to each of the crew members who were working when I visited. I attended the two Fire and Rescue Service public meetings in Greenock and Port Glasgow and met the local FBU Scotland representative. I also spoke to senior management during my visit to the Port Glasgow station. I thank them all for their contributions and for their information and assistance. I also thank all the fire and rescue staff across Scotland.”
“I hope that for the rest of the parliamentary session and into the next one, the number of issues that are reported will fall back. Parliamentary Bureau Motion 21:23”
“There were 30 reports for just six instruments that were laid in this quarter, including one SSI that had eight reportable issues. Those errors have been identified across several policy areas, so this is of note to everyone in the chamber. Finally, a number of the instruments that we have drawn to the attention of the Parliament this quarter have engaged serious reporting grounds, with four issues reported on the ground of the drafting appearing to be defective. The Scottish Government has committed to correcting many of the errors, which is to be welcomed. However, the fact that errors are happening so often now is a cause of concern for the committee. The Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee encourages the Scottish Government to work to improve the overall quality of instruments that are laid before the Parliament.”
“First, and perhaps most prominently, the number of instruments that have been reported on under the reporting grounds that are laid out in rule 10.3.1 of the standing orders has increased to 28 per cent. To contextualise the figure, I note that the next highest percentage of instruments drawn to the attention of the Parliament in a quarter of this parliamentary session was 14 per cent, which is half the figure from the most recent report. More typically, the percentage figure is between 5 and 10 per cent. Secondly, the number of reporting grounds engaged by individual instruments has also increased. Although an instrument may typically be reported on one or, occasionally, two grounds, we have had multiple instances of several reports being made for one instrument.”
“I am grateful for the opportunity to make this announcement on behalf of the Delegated Powers and Law Reform Committee regarding our recent report on the Scottish statutory instruments laid between mid-May and the start of this month. It is an unprecedented step for our committee to seek to highlight one of our reports, which looks at the quality of the instruments. However, we felt that the issues that we have recently identified merited being raised in the chamber, which we hope will spur an improvement by the Scottish Government. Our role is unique. We consider all subordinate legislation that is laid before the Parliament. As the report lays out, there was a marked decline in the quality of instruments that were laid before the Parliament in the first quarter of this parliamentary year. That change is identifiable in three main ways.”
“On a point of order, Presiding Officer. I could not connect to the app. I would have voted no. The Deputy Presiding Officer: Thank you, Mr McMillan. Your vote will be recorded.”
“Equally, we hear some very good examples of how individual local authorities are driving the agenda forward, so it will be important to engage with them as well.”
“To follow on from the final point that the minister touched on, what engagement has taken place with local authorities up to this point, and does local government support the bill as it is currently framed? Natalie Don-Innes: As I said, I met the COSLA spokespeople on 6 August, and officials have had on-going engagement with COSLA officers and the Association of Directors of Education in Scotland. COSLA has also written to me and the member in charge, expressing similar concerns to those of the Government and the Education, Children and Young People Committee on the costs, equity and workforce implications, as I laid out to Miles Briggs. It will be important to engage with COSLA again.”
“To ask the Scottish Government what recent discussions it has had with the UK Government regarding the next UK Budget, which will be delivered on 26 November. (S6O-04977)”
“Our national security arrangements, whether through the Privy Council system, the Intelligence and Security Committee of Parliament, which has had Scottish National Party members sit on it, or the duty of ministers to account to the House of Commons, are founded on a simple truth—that liberty and security are inseparable. Without security, there is no liberty. I pay tribute to every man and woman, whether uniformed, civilian or a contractor, whose work at Faslane, Coulport and beyond ensures the effectiveness of our deterrent. National security should not be a matter of partisanship. It is a solemn responsibility that all of us who serve in public office share. Our nuclear deterrent is essential to the safety, sovereignty and freedom of the United Kingdom. 16:59”
“One of the key issues that Bill Kidd highlighted was safety. There was a category A leak. Does Stephen Kerr share the view of Bill Kidd and—I am sure—many other members that that is a serious issue and that safety is paramount? So far, Stephen Kerr has not touched on how such leaks affect safety. Stephen Kerr: I assure Stuart McMillan that I am coming right on to that, but I wanted to make a point about the strategic importance to our national defence and our economy of the role that is played by His Majesty’s Naval Base Clyde. The Ministry of Defence maintains one of the most rigorous safety cultures in the world. Every irregularity, however minor, is recorded and thoroughly investigated. None of the incidents that we are discussing today harmed personnel, endangered the public or caused measurable environmental harm.”
“First, I apologise to the chamber that I have to leave midway through portfolio questions, as I previously indicated to the Presiding Officer. To ask the Scottish Government whether it will provide an update on the empire, slavery and Scotland’s museums steering group and its work to consider Scotland’s involvement in empire, colonialism and historic slavery and how this can be addressed using museum collections and museum spaces, including the potential for a stand-alone slavery or human rights museum. (S6O-04930)”
“The First Minister will be aware of concerns about the delivery of capital investment to Ferguson Marine. I would be grateful if the First Minister could provide an update on that capital investment, which was proposed by the Scottish Government and was included in the budget passed earlier this year.”
“I also thank Fight Bladder Cancer for its efforts to improve outcomes for bladder cancer patients in Scotland, and I look forward to continuing to work with the organisation to help to deliver that in Scotland. The Deputy Presiding Officer: We move to the open debate. 17:51”
“Thirdly, we can boost awareness, support and participation throughout the bladder cancer pathway for patients, carers and families, and ensure that patients are empowered to make informed decisions about their care. We know that taking a holistic approach to healthcare and keeping patients informed at all stages of their treatment journey is absolutely vital. Again, that could be said about any aspect of healthcare. It helps to keep patients invested in how they can make small lifestyle changes to support their treatment, and it helps to safeguard their mental wellbeing during what will be a very difficult time. I once again thank members for supporting the motion, and I thank those who will be speaking in debate.”
“In closing, I draw attention to Fight Bladder Cancer’s white paper from May 2024. The document includes a range of recommendations that are UK-wide, but there are takeaways for us in Scotland to consider. While there is no one policy or action that will deliver all the changes that are required, there are key areas where we need to effect change. First, we need to establish an exemplar pathway for bladder cancer care to help to deliver quicker referral and diagnosis for those with suspected bladder cancer. Secondly, strengthening the bladder cancer healthcare workforce will help to achieve better outcomes for bladder cancer patients. We know that that is a key recommendation across several areas in our health service, and that Scotland is not alone in facing staffing challenges.”
“Part of that preventative work is about considering how we can maintain healthier lifestyles, and Fight Bladder Cancer has put together a range of resources to help with that. According to NHS Inform, “Most cases of bladder cancer appear to be caused by exposure to harmful substances, which lead to abnormal changes in the bladder’s cells over many years. Tobacco smoke is a common cause and it’s estimated that half of all cases of bladder cancer are caused by smoking.” It is almost 20 years since Scotland introduced the smoking ban, which was a key public health policy that has helped massively in shifting public attitudes towards smoking. Scotland led the way on that policy in the UK, and I believe that we are ambitious enough to want to lead the way on bladder cancer.”
“Not only is that not good enough for patients; it is also costly for our national health service, as the report notes: “Bladder cancer has the highest cost of any cancer, when considered on a per-patient basis”. I believe that every member in the chamber agrees that prevention is better than the cure—to be frank, that could be said for anything. That approach helps to ensure patients do not endure more invasive and extensive treatment, which is also more expensive to deliver. It is imperative, then, that we consider how we can support our NHS to better diagnose bladder cancer. A key part of that—as I have indicated—is making sure that we raise awareness of the key signs and symptoms. I cannot stress that point enough, and I refer to the statistic I mentioned previously: half of bladder cancer cases are preventable.”