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Chase Jarvis

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first: 2014-05-26
most recent: 2014-05-26
sittings or episodes: 1
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“In a year, just boom. So, when I was thinking about an artist and making things, I always want to continue to make things. But you start to look at making and creating as not just the thing of pushing the shutter or saying action or directing the commercial or whatever and making something that maybe is more scalable or following your passion. Being able to, and that was again something I was told was not possible. And so it's really looking to inspiration, to aspiring to the work that other people have done before you and thinking, oh my God, I thought it was not possible. Now I see this is possible. Go back to Bo Jackson playing football and baseball. No one had ever done that before. That's mind-blowing. And why not? These are the best athletes in the world. Of course, they're probably good at a lot of things.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I feel like it's a what kind of, like it's a little bit of a fantasy life. What do you want to do? And it doesn't matter what you've heard, this is not possible. You can't be both of this and of this. You can't work four hours. In Tim Ferris Parlins, my version of that was I want to be able to make my living making things. And then I realized that artists as individuals were not that scalable. Right, Dr. Dre made more from beats selling his headphone company than he did from his music.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, it was good. You made some good brain vomiting on you. You made some good noises. You grunted a little bit. It was good. I inferred what you were saying. But intention, I...”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Talk about that a bit. Sure. I think intention plays a really big role in all of the scenarios you just sort of carved out in an ad hoc or thing like that. Did this and this and this.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And it's following your passions, and you can't always, Steve Jobs said it, you can't connect the dots looking forward. You can only connect them looking backwards. And now, again, knowing that my career as an artist and then developing the iPhone app, best camera, which allowed me to see scalable technology millions of users really quickly, you're like, oh my God, took me five years to build an audience of a million people. And then I did it in five weeks. And then all of that feeds into Creative Live. And those are very disparate things.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Scott Harrison. Scott Harrison or the CEO. And you have been instrumental in unlocking that for a lot of people. I think that is one of my gifts or passions and gifts is to be able to learn quickly. It wasn't necessarily a gift that I was born with, but just threw myself into something and not afraid to make some mistakes. I think those three things help. But that... You're doing a great job. Nice job, man. Thank you. Literally unlocking it. That's it. It is a sentiment that, again, I am continually sort of bombarded with people asking questions about how to end up being more of a career counselor. And I think you probably do too. Happens a lot.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was told my whole career you have to specialize, specialize, specialize. And I specialized in pursuing the things that are interesting. I talked a lot about action sports, but then I also talked about fashion and I talked about breakdancing and I talked about all kinds of different cultural stuff. I've made TV shows, shot commercials, done ad campaigns, created startups, did the first iPhone app that shared images to social networks. And these are I historically would have been called a dilettante. But to be able to touch all these things and find out that they ultimately inform one another and they made at least my contribution to Creative Live possible.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“That's the factory mentality, which is sadly the same mechanism that our education system is based on, which what is a factory good at? It's making a bunch of things that are the same. Exactly. You're good at one thing, you're good at screwing the screw in, and that's what you do, and out pops the radio at the end and started with a bunch of raw material, and then you got the radio, but schools shouldn't be like that because people aren't like that. The goal is not to turn out a bunch of people that people don't learn the same rate, the same stuff. Soapbox. No, it's true.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“We could list any number of companies, like that to me, this vision of creator artist making things and these things being businesses, nonprofits. That's a beautiful picture of the future, I think. And that's one of the reasons I'm out there advocating for creativity. So my shoot with Serena and Roger Federer and Asarenka is actually very related to having an authentic understanding of what it takes to make and be and do build businesses and shoot ad campaigns. They're not all that dissimilar.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What Mark thinks about startups is something that I have just, I just hopped on his coattails, that these companies aren't, they called founders, but the companies aren't found. They're made. They're creating. And so this idea of creatives and artists discovering or unlocking or creating the next sort of product, whatever it is, whether it's the next Facebook, Instagram,”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It's a good day. But I will say that I'm to change it to Creative Live for a second. More enamored and more fired up on the power of creativity to change the world more than ever before. I'm spending a huge and complete inordinate amount of time. Learning from basically the people that are in the startup world, I've learned a lot from you, doing some angel investing, but focused very, very specifically on the creative space. And it's a really interesting, do you know Mark Echo? Echo clothing. So Mark's a friend.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“300 matches more than anyone like these super athletes basically and just get to get to spend legitimate real real time with these people on the court and make great pictures of them that they've never had made before so that was a great day last week”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I don't have a bad thing to say about any of those. Five or ten of the people that I shot out of the top 2 Tennis players, not just now, but ever in the history of tennis. Just like legendary guy speaks five languages, is just looks like a GQ model. He's like Thomas Crown, but never Dennis. Yeah, never been injured, never opted out of a match before due to injury.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“My favorite day last week I was in Miami photographing Serena Williams for the upcoming Wilson campaign. I got to shoot Serena Roger Federer.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But drawing something from all of the people who you respect and appreciate and admire, that's called research. And Picasso's good artists borrow great artists steal. There's a million quotes out there. And it's just a book about inspiration. It gives you some courage to sort of hack the system to remix and reuse and everything that's out there has been done. And it's just how can we sort of undone or redo what's already out there, chunk it up into new pieces. Those are some more contemporary ones that, again, very much outside Photography, I feel like I've nailed my craft and reading books in photography. I do that for pleasure. I respect and admire Liebowitz and Maplethorpe and there's a dozen great, but my inspiration comes from outside. So a lot of artist biographies and whatnot too. What?”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Good buck. Super small, fast read. And the premise on that book is basically if you steal from one person, that's stealing. If you take, I took your idea, the four-hour bike ride or whatever, it's not really that original. Get”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Most recent book jab jab jab write hook. Guys like Austin Cleon wrote books called Steel Like an Artist. His most recent one that just came out, Share Your Work.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I feel heavily influenced by, and we have a similar circle of friends, books that you have written, books that Gary V has written, Ryan Holliday with Trust Me I'm Lying, How to Understand the Media, Gary has been pounding his chest for a long time about all the stuff that he pounds his chest on besides the Jets. But again, I look at those things.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I'm having this weird, let's talk a little bit more current rather than sort of like way historical, like what 22 immutable laws of marketing is like a classic. That's way back.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Lords of the floor was the first one they did. And that was a gathering of a group of break dancers that'll never together before then and will never be together since. And I've got some pretty amazing photographs. But that's an example of no one was actually interested in licensing images to a company that no one had ever heard of, but going outside your industry, I'm not just looking for outside magazine and REI, I'm looking like, wow, here's this Austrian beverage company that has this crazy history. And then I start to see it in the US. And so grabbing sort of those coattails and grabbing at threads that no one else.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“He literally gave me his card, and I had great pictures, and they started licensing stuff. And I was like, here's this brand. It wasn't available anywhere in the US. And so, lo and behold, I ended up doing a lot of work for those guys through their cultural stuff with hip hop and shot large swaths of the top breakdancers in the world for them, some of the best graffiti artists. I didn't know that. Yeah.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And all things considered. To have a multi-billion dollar brand now, but 90s and it was at Squaw Valley, and there was a guy who had this Red Bull outfit in Roller Jersey, and I happened to have great photographs of him. It was like a qualifier for one of the early X games. And these guys approach me and said, We see you taking pictures of this guy. And he ended up being.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yes, you look great. But again, taking inspiration and ideas from other genres. So instead of reading how to be a better photographer, digital new media books, it was business books from guys like Guy Kawasaki and Tim Ferris and literally hacker books and avant-garde artist books that talked about not getting attention for the sake of attention, but how to create transformative art What do you do? Where do you go? What do you think about? What kind of permissions do you give yourself? Yeah,”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so when that sort of transformed, that became an added value and a key differentiator. So again, what started off by sharing my experiences ultimately hacked the system that hacked the system gave me a lot of opportunity. Now to go back to your question, like what books, what tools, I was literally just sort of analyzing pop culture, the business books for our work week was really inspirational. It was a long time ago because you're about 110 years old now, right? It's one of your first.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“People are now as artists, we no longer require permission, we no longer require permission from anyone to share our work at scale. You know, we don't have to, there's no more gatekeepers, the gallerist and the magazine. And my personal social following and the blog that I write. At Chase Jarvis, larger than a lot of the media companies. Outlets that hire me.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And if I could come across as someone that did good work and had a sort of a passion for life and what it is they're doing, that's a contagious sort of infectious thing. And that was the generally the life that I was living. So I figured, oh, well, I'll just point a camera at me. And ultimately that was responsible for sort of an increased trajectory in my career. Because then you're like, have you heard this guy who's sharing all, you know, in a fancy Nike shoots and stupid little local shoots, the full gamut? And in doing so, you've already referenced a couple of the videos on my YouTube channel. In doing so, created a large following, and it was in large part that following which helped unlock so many other things for me. Because as we've seen even the last, let's call it five years.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I was like, well, I sort of saw the future that information was going to be free and you couldn't keep secrets and the art industry in general, photography specific, was very closed So, the way I approached it was like, well, here's how I'm going to be different. I'm going to share everything. And in doing so, made a couple haters, but slowly there was a rather large audience that would show up to not literally to the shoots, but to the behind the scenes. There was no such thing as behind the scenes videos, like before YouTube was Google video. And Yahoo video, or just these terrible, terrible things. But I had no idea what I was doing. I just knew that if more people were looking at my work”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Jean-Michel Bosquiat, he took sort of graffiti off the street and brought it into the gallery. Robert Rauschenberg, you know, large-scale guy, crazy mixed media. They were just people that were hacking the art scene in that era in New York. And they applied non-traditional techniques to getting noticed, to making art. They were zigging when everyone else is zigzagging, basically. The way that I zigged when everyone else was zagging in photography was I chronicled my exploits of learning my craft. It was 10 years before it was cool to be transparent. And I was actually sort of vilified for sharing trade secrets. So I would go out and try something. And it was before YouTube. Trader to the guild. Literally.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Be different, not better. I mean, again, we've already agreed that the work has to be good. You have to be a good writer before you sell a million books. That's just fact. At least a decent writer. And so the same is true in the way that I approached it. And I learned that basically from those artists in the 50s, 60s, 70s in New York. So I've read all of artist biographies of people who have actually led amazing lives, done amazing things. And what you find out.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Making art. And they were sort of reinventing the game while they were playing it. And I was always motivated to try and apply that to my work. And not so literally instead of taking in the way of taking a picture of a picture, that would be too literal. The meta thing was fine. But I'm talking about How do you differentiate yourself in the marketplace? If I look across and everyone else is doing this, how do you zig when everyone else is zagging?”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It was learning about sort of the business side of it. And I think there's a weird, you have to know your industry for sure. That's very, very beneficial. But all the big hacks, the leaps, the sort of the leapfrog things that I did in my career came from outside my industry. So instead of learning from other photographers, well, I have a huge respect for the masters that have paved the way before me, but I took a lot of cues from Andy Warhol and Jean-Michel Basquiat and Robert Rauschenberg, the artists from New York in the 60s, 70s, 50s, 60s, 70s, because they were sort of, again, they were hackers. They were finding out how to hack the system and they were making art about”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“At first, it was the library. Literally, it was books. That as soon as I realized that I was good at the craft and that was developed primarily through repetition and feedback loops that I cultivated and created on my own”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, tools a little bit of this is going to be a date, date myself idea here. This is already going on day. It's a two-hour mandate.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“But what actually matters is that that person over there is doing the shit that you're not doing. They're a New York Times bestselling author. So Tim got up, sat down at his computer, wrote every day until he had an 8,000 page book, and then narrowed it down to 400 pages and then sold the million copies.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They're tired for sure because there's so many of them. That idea of once you make something that if it's great, it will just be discovered is totally fiction. The people that I know that are successful as soon as it's done, the making part, then it's about packaging. And frankly, the narrative, like being a good storyteller, is mission critical to having your idea project plan, work, vision, company, whatever spread. So being able to tell a good story is another thing that people overlook. So being great at your craft, actually working hard to sell and position the art of storytelling as a mechanism to get your stuff out there. Those are huge things, both of which either people want to skip or where people think that I don't have that gift, therefore I can't do it. Or that guy's a jackass because he's not a real talent. He's actually just as great at selling himself.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I think there's a belief that people who are successful either they can sell themselves really well and they're natural at it. I was a natural hard worker But not a gifted positioner and seller. And that was all learned in the same way that some of the stuff we talked about earlier was learned, the art of negotiation, the art of positioning yourself in the marketplace, of telling your story. That is not, at least it wasn't innate for me. And I had to learn that. So there's another belief that oh, if you have talent, then you just actually are successful, which is a total. It's total bullshit. Ryan Holliday talks a lot about this. You have to make...”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And so that gets overlooked. Like, I just want to be this awesome fashion photographer and hang out with awesome, you know, beautiful people in crazy locations. And it's like, dude, you got to be, like, actually pick up a camera and get good at that shit first. And then you might be able to do part. Yeah, the second part. So I think that's a common mistake. The second one is that the...”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“And having the camera is like an extension of my arm. And you think about it, I've used the pro golf analogy. I don't know why I'm not crazy about golf, but those guys have to, and women have to stand up on the tee and hit the ball down the middle because that's what they're paid to do. It doesn't matter if it's raining, sunny, windy, if there's 10 people watching or 10 million, they're paid to hit the ball down the middle. And as an artist, you're paid to make. And as an entrepreneur, you're paid to deliver the ROI to the shareholders. And as a wrestler, you're paid to win. Or whatever your thing is, you have to be great at your craft in order to, I think, achieve. So there's this 10,000 hours hardcore, the folks that I think are great, whether they're hacking the system and doing it in 10 hours or 10,000, that is, I think people want to skip that step.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Which is pretty much everyone. Right. Unless So there's a handful, and I think it does apply like you just prefaced across every discipline. Being great at your craft is a requirement. And I wouldn't suggest that you don't try and get work or hustle or do all those other things while you're coming up, because that's a part of the game. And that's, you know, Gary V is a big advocate for hustling. And so you got to hustle your whole way. But being great at your craft actually matters. Yeah.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, yeah. And you don't in photo and video, you don't really get too many, you can't be a dick. Because it gets around pretty quickly that you're not pleasant to work with, and you can't blow it because people are making big bets.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Yeah, because, you know, and it started off small, but then as the budgets got to be $50,000, $100,000, half million, some big productions, The people that are betting on you”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“It also helps with, I think, some confidence. You repeat that thing, you get a little more confidence. And in a weird way, it also helped me understand the seriousness of the work, not in that the photography of skiers and snowboarders or skateboarders or surfers was serious, but in that the people that are on the other end of this transaction, they are betting their ass on me. If that doesn't turn out, they are fired.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Try them out It is practicing and it's showing up and letting the be sweaty, but putting yourself. And I think I don't have to tell you where your listeners that they are familiar with your work. Like put yourself in some low or not too serious stakes and negotiate against”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“I do. Oh, yeah. I just spoke with amazing woman. You're a very lucky guy. I think there's a way to extrapolate that. To every profession. Like negotiating, and we've talked to Ramit about this a lot, Ramit is the man for negotiating, right? And he actually came on my podcast, Chase Jarvis Live.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“You just leave Kate out of this. Flip you like a cheese on you. You lifting. I can see you've been working on the biceps that are Tim Ferris experiments got you.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“They'll push a little bit so that you feel better And that's exactly. I did some iteration of that, and I took a day to get back to him. I knew that because she said yes so quickly that the next time if I was dealing with someone who was at a commensurate level of experience across the table for me and if I could do a great job on this job. That I could ask for more”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Let me check my schedule. Yeah. And literally, I'm going to, like, okay, I'll get back to you on the hat. I'm going to go throw up in the bathroom. But again, there were some stakes there. There was, I knew that I could do the job. But I also feel like I had an understanding the marketplace and where it was an indicator of where I wanted to go as well. I knew I wanted to be at a top price point and I wanted to do less work but do high-end stuff. And again, I don't want to pretend that I didn't do a shitload. This is like a 10-year overnight success program here like I was working in the trenches day in and day out. Everything I was eating, breathing, sleeping, photography. But when I was able to start to sort of monetize my craft.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“So the first, you know, and I had to, I wasn't bluffing. I knew that I could do the work, but I said, you know, I think it was $2,500 a day, $2,000, $2,500 a day. And they said, okay, well, it's a six day shoot. So in my head, I'm shitting myself and doing the math that I made last year. I'm going to make it last week. And they said, okay, that sounds fine. We might need to add an extra day.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“This claw your way up. And that whole idea that when, oh wait, when we get some more budget, we'll call you if you just do it for 400 bucks. No, no, no, they don't call the $400 dude. They call the $4,000 dude when they have a $4,000 budget.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Did you Just ask and you were surprised they said yes. I had a body of work. That I hadn't actually done a lot with commercially. So I felt like the quality. And I was doing, I was comparing my work to the work that I saw in the marketplace, honestly, when I was getting peer reviews and whatnot. And I knew that I had talent. But it really came to the boldness of where do I want to put myself in the marketplace? I'd rather have my first sale be here and not have anything down there. Because if you're the $400 dude.”
2014-05-26 · The Tim Ferriss Show · Episode 8: Chase Jarvis, Master Photographer · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT