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“No, no, no, no. This polarization tech is a tool that has made it easier, has accelerated this. But this has been a strategy. Look, I bring up Roger Ailes because Roger Ailes Created this culture. So he comes out of Nixon. And if you look at it, basically, the whole idea of media bias.”
2018-01-29 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Chuck Todd, moderator, 'Meet the Press' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“Meaning the only thing you were persuading voters to do is to vote or not vote. You are not persuading them from left or right.”
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“I think if we dump the idea of persuasion in American politics, we're going to doom the democracy. But there are a lot of political strategists left and right who believe there is no such thing as a persuadable voter.”
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“They're fanatics about Reddit. It's very interesting. But what's interesting to me, though, is that they're very concentrated only on, they're not interested in persuasion. They're only interested in reinforcement.”
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“Then I will say, wow, okay, he is truly a successful leader because he changed. A party's mind and direction and all that.”
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“Correct, or even maybe in a pursued same outcomes, maybe via a different strategy. When he gets the Republican Party to cancel NAFTA, then I'm going to be impressed. When he gets the Republican Party to no longer be the party of free trade permanently,”
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“But to me, he's not successful until he gets Republicans to do something they've never wanted to do. So far, his accomplishments are essentially generic conservative accomplishments Marco Rubio, Mike Pence, President Cruz, all of them would have pursued these same things.”
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“Well, defined successful. He's the most unpopular president in the first class. He's good. So it depends on your definition of success. He's there.”
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“Well, and it's also how he's wired. What's interesting is that he happened to be wired For Twit And for the twenty first century news consumption brand. Before that existed. He said himself and is one of those books that he had ghostwritten that he likes to start his day without a schedule. He likes to react. Look, I've been spending a lot of time getting to know Donald Trump in the 70s, 80s, and 90s. This part of him hasn't changed. He likes to have eight or nine different things to do in a given day. Eight or nine different things that he's working on in a given day. And he moves through them all the time. And so he was brilliantly made for Twitter. He had a mind that was essentially melded with how Twitter functions. Right. Do you”
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“Like, I can't believe he did this. I'm like, he did it yesterday. You did it the day before. And it's obvious that I've run out of adjectives. They just try to say distraction, but I'm like, no, it's a political strategy. I said, it's not a distraction. It's how you.”
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“Why don't others use it? It's really interesting. You know, I call them the genius troll of all time because it really is quite effective. You're absolutely right. And we could talk about topic after topic. It's all the same. It's all the same.”
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“And it doesn't matter if it's about Mueller, DACA, the tax bill. It is his version of the messaging, not a different point of view supporting the same outcome. You know, not a different way of getting there. It is this saying.”
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“They use his phrases. You see it in the tweets. You see it in the emails that I'll get. It is very much, it is amazing to get 31% of the country on the same message. Right. It is not just in topics. It's in language. It's in tone. It's in all of it”
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“And one of the things we'll do is we'll ask people to tell us things in their own words. The amount, his supporters use his words.”
2018-01-29 · Decoder with Nilay Patel · Recode Decode: Chuck Todd, moderator, 'Meet the Press' · IDENTIFIED FROM THE TRANSCRIPT
“What I notice about President Trump's Twitter feed is how it is basically how it works in the echo chamber. I mean, what I would say is that their strategy seems to be, Giving material for their supporters to amplify their message. That's what they do, right? So they may, the president may toy with a conspiracy theory about the FBI, as he will do in a tweet or something like that. That in turn allows his supporters to then go deep on, well, whatever. Let me draw the conclusion. I'm going to take these three facts and create a conclusion, or I have a conclusion, and I'm going to find disparate facts that prove my conclusion. And it's sort of like it's almost like he sends the bat signal. And that's what has been impressive about it. It's very unified. And what's amazing to me is how often and where I see it, like we'll have a poll”
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“Back at the turn of the century No, this was fascinating because they were so embracing of tech when, in fact, it's the Trump administration who uses it beautifully and has been benefiting from it in a lot of ways. Can you talk about how you look at how they're disseminating information? You can add Fox News in, but I think it's just pure using the communication tools.”
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“No, absolutely. And who's hostile to tech? Which was interesting because now all the Democrats and the Obama people, there was just a report yesterday and I was sort of giving the guy who wrote it a hard time. I was like, so you did obsequious sucking up to the tech industry and now you're sanctimoniously attacking it. Like it's sort of like you can stop now. But they did nothing to get in the way of all these abuses. They did the same thing.”
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“Yeah. Travel around, talk to me and things like that. If had he not been president It's the guy who actually probably has never sent an email that is about that.”
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“Right. And I'm also the political director of the daily show And then you do all kinds of other things and travel around, talk to me and things like that. Well, you were talking about the idea of Meet the Press as a bigger idea, but you can't do that now. Like you have to think about your brand, and I hate to use the word brand, but you know what I mean? You're thinking about it in lots of ways, the way the Trump administration has done that, that they see lots of outlets for whatever they're doing. You talked about sort of the Fox being the news organ, and I absolutely agree with that. And Trump talked about doing his own, if had he not been president, and a lot of conservatives are talking about that. Can you sort of give me the lay of the lamb when you think about what has influence? And let's start with Twitter. And I know you've talked about this a whole bunch, but I find Trump's use of Twitter. You know, Obama was supposed to be the digital president, but he wasn't. He wasn't.”
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“My technical title is I'm the moderator and managing editor. Right. And I'm also the political director of the Bible. And”
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“They're not quite. He was more, it seemed. It's just different I don't think ailes would be doing what they're doing. I don't know. No. Maybe I'm wrong.”
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“It's striking in that I can't believe I'm about to say what I'm about to say, but Roger Ailes ran a more journalistically honest organization.”
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“I'm still semi concerned because you now see openly mega donors deciding they want to buy publications. Well, they're going to buy publications and make them house organs for a politician. Now, what's ironic here is that this is actually back to the future for American media. This was the 19th century. Do you know why the Blair House is named after? Who? Who Blair was? Blair was a newspaper publisher in Tennessee. He was Andrew Jackson's.”
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“Washington Redskins.com reporter I was concerned that political campaigns would start doing that. They'd hire their own republics. And in some ways, they have, right? They're trying to create their own television. Josh Ernest hosted his own Sunday show. From the point of view of the White House”
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“Because I am who I am. So One thing I worried about is I've been watching what's happening in sports. A lot of sports leagues have allowed their own teams to hire their own reporters. It's a huge problem here in Washington, for instance. The Washington Redskins don't give information to the Washington Post beat writers anymore. They only give them on injuries and things like that to their own”
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“Don't try to control it. And that's what Donald Trump did You know, Donald Trump was essentially during the campaign on the record constantly. Sometimes via his own Twitter feed, sometimes via his own rallies. Certainly any reporter could stop him. And I saw that as maybe it would be a positive. And I still think there are plenty of politicians who have learned the wrong lesson from Trump because they're still not doing that. They're not saying to themselves.”
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“About two years ago, apparently, I said, and I do remember thinking this, I'm glad I said it somewhere, I said, you know, some presidential candidate is going to realize that the best way to cut through is not to try to pick and choose your media, but just do it all. And be on the record all the time Don't try to control.”
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“Yeah, and I think about it, and I actually study it, and you mentioned Snapchat when we were talking earlier, but where do you imagine it going? How do you perceive political information? Because we'll get into President Trump's use of Twitter and things like that.”
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“When you look at how people are getting their information, what do you look at? I mean, you're obviously deep into television and you're a daily show and you guys have newsletters and things like that. But what do you look at and you wonder? Where it's happening. Because I always think what's the next thing constantly? I'm always worried about it.”
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“I think that's why I've changed to one subject interviews. Be cut for the most part. I might ask a second topic at the end, but it's because if you just ask, if you do six topics in eight minutes, all you've done is given them time to do their, all they have to do is a talking point.”
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“Tried to change the interview style a little bit. So for instance, If we had a senator on, and this would be go back 20 years, whether it was Tim, David, Tom, whoever's doing it, you would ask. First of all, you'd have them on for 25 minutes and you would ask him about eight or nine different issues. Now we know that really the only thing that holds viewers is the president, the vice president, not even the vice president”
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“It can be. I think it's sort of taken what worked on Sunday and then they did it in repetitive repetitive motion to the point where I actually think we've tried to change the model a little bit. But I take your point there. And so I think that now the viewers look to us for that. And I also have...”
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“Okay, that we're here to sort of. I assume the average viewer is not you, actually, right now, if you're the junkie. It's that next level down a well-read person who has a life.”
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“Even on cable two, but it's constant, you're getting all this. I think there is this sense of the saturation. You say, oh, I already know everything that's going on. I see our job now on Sunday morning as basically”
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“Because I want the meat to press umbrella to stand for something more than just an hour and Sundays. What's interesting is if you actually look at the trends of broadcast news, There is one genre that's growing in raw numbers. It's And I have a theory as to why One is the morning and the evening daily are general news.”
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“Yeah, it's impossible. So I was mindful of this. So that is why I've not even in this job four years. I've got a daily cable show. It didn't happen before. We have now a podcast. We just did this film festival. The goal being, frankly, I want to be in the documentary. Making business? Why shouldn't we be, but also why shouldn't we become a production house for all these great political commentary documentaries?”
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“I want the long form. And obviously Daly has survived. But weekly has been, I mean, I think the hardest job in journalism right now is Time Magazine. I don't know how you do it. Like, how do you stay relevant?”
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“That meets the press is really an idea. And there's a meet the press mindset that can go to documentary filmmaking. There's a Meet the Press mindset to podcast. There's a Meet the Press mindset to cable. But the point is that it is not about one hour on a Sunday morning. It is bigger than that. And I think for its own survival, because if you look at the media landscape, the first media entities to die were weeklies.”
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“Have certainly? I think they were. And I actually will make the case that they're not, but I've been mindful of this. And so the single, my single greatest goal as the current moderator is to make sure people don't think of Meet the Press as a Sunday show.”
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“I entered this job with believing that my number one goal was to, look, I believe I am a custodian of something that is much bigger than myself, which is me the press. When you're the oldest. The oldest show in television history Period, like, you know, that, and it has sort of a, it stands for an idea. So, I'm aware of that. But it is. I did worry, I didn't want it, the idea of Sunday shows, for instance, what you just said, I didn't want it to atrophy.”
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“I think as peers, that's true But I think from When the talented people are the ones that are difficult to tell what to do because they were like, well, wait a minute. Because they're the ones that are going to say.”
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“It is, I don't envy network executives because it is talent management, but you know, I'll go back to something. This is why David Bradley said something once, and I've given this advice to my bosses in the past. Talented people are difficult to manage or else they wouldn't be talented.”
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“To say it. What's interesting about it, I cover it just a little bit because a lot of broadcast people are moving the internet and back and forth. Whenever I deal with a network person, I'm fascinated by the level of bile, like in terms of pointless bile. It doesn't really help the story. It's not, you know, as if you're covering Uber or something where there's actual real problems. I had one executive trying to get me to write that someone was an anchor monster, which I think, and I was like, well, can I put that on the record with your name? Of course not. And I was like, well, then I'm not using it, obviously. It was really in it, but others would. I was thinking, of course people would”
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“Right. Or that's television. It's because It's so high. Every exits overcovered. Everything is, whether it's because of the gossip columns that love to just cover people that are on TV, whatever it is, there's just the fact that the awkward aspect that news executives have all this power over very wealthy talent and it creates these, I don't know what it is, but most exits are ugly.”
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“And yes, sometimes I'm there superficially, I'm there in an organized conference, I'm there for a bilateral meeting. I'm there for, but that's experience that has benefited me in this job. Put it this way, I never would have been successful at Meet the Press had I immediately done it in 2009.”
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“So many people. I can tell you that I never broke one. Every story I broke in the White House. Came from outside the White House. Not a single, in fact, I had to sometimes physically leave the White House to get news on the White House. So now, that said, being there still is important. I remember, you know, sometimes you just, the most important thing for a White House reporter is not to be there when everybody says from nine to five. The best times to be at the White House and have access to it are from 5 p.m. to 11 p.m. Or from 5 a.m. to 9 a.m. Because that's when you actually run into people that are in charge of running the country.”
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“You know, we always were inside that fence, but we got to go home to sleep and have dinner, but we had to be at that fence at 7 a.m.”
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“I work there as an intern. Sedana and I, we took the prison metaphor. We used to joke Robert Gibbs was the foreman. Because he decided when we had to be there or not. We had our desk at NBC decided and told us what time we could come home. We were basically on work release.”
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“But then I said, How do you turn this down? Historic presidency, the first African American president. And, you know, here I am.”
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“Know, I mean I remember when I got offered to be chief White House correspondent, I said, I've never been a correspondent. He said, you know, I've never worked at a local affiliate. Like, in my head, I'm going,”
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