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  1. Yeah, that was a band I was in in 2005, 6, 7 that was on Virgin Capital Records and did a record and then EMI got bought out by Terra Ferma. And that was that.

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  2. The devil. Yeah, so we had three daughters that would sort of tempt people, sort of like the snake in the garden of Eden, that equivalent

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  3. Yeah, he's an interesting dude. So, yeah, those are the two best places to contact me. My website or Instagram. If anyone hears this and there's sort of kindred spirits in terms of what motivates us or in terms of any sort of creative endeavor, reach out and say, hey.

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  4. Well, the easiest place to find me is Instagram, just Dave Ehlich. My website, you can contact me through my website. I'm not super active on Twitter or Facebook anymore. Know someone else a lot of books I recommend are Douglas Copeland's. Books. He wrote Generation X, coined the term. Yeah, he's also an equally amazing visual artist, which is incredibly rare. I find a ton of inspiration from him. He's great. So I recommend a lot of his books. Generation X is great, like social commentary from the early 90s.

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  5. Yep, I give the inner game of tennis. I give Zen in the art of archery to people. All the time. I feel like that was the very first book that spawned all of these Zen in the art of film the blind.

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  6. Yeah, like when you hit the ball in the sand and you're like And you can't, and you have to go, just leave it be, and you have to let that ruin the whole game. Same sort of thing when the red light's on in the studio or you're playing in front of 30,000 people. It's the same, you screw something up. You can't be like, and let it screw up the whole thing.

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  7. Logan, that Wolverine movie so good, yeah. St. Vincent movie with Bill Murray a few years ago, that all the divergent, insurgent

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  8. You've never seen the music before. They throw up the sheet music and you have to play it perfectly the first time because you have to do the whole movie in a day.

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  9. I tweeted years ago. I was like, hey, does anyone know any good sports psychology books directly related to tennis or golf? Because I was really fascinated with those. I don't really give a shit about sports really. But I was really fascinated because the psychological warfare you have to navigate by yourself. Is the same as when the red light's on in the studio? I have to do these film scores where you have to sight read everything you've never seen it before. They throw up a book.

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  10. And it's also Why would it's also for TSA employees drive me bananas travel a lot and a lot of them are totally incompetent so but it's like going to anything where you have to deal with someone in that type of a job You go, wait, why would this person be competent? A competent person wouldn't have this job in the first place. So, why am I expecting that to begin with? I'm setting myself up to get angry. Yeah.

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  11. Which is a learned thing. That's something that I constantly have to check myself about, you know. And if that'll take you out There's so many, so many things like that on the daily.

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  12. They just didn't see it I was like, and I start laughing, and I'm like, oh my God, you're totally right at feeling this need to police everyone. And it's obviously a need for control.

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  13. Things that can be unlearned might take a lot of work. It takes a lot of work. It's the hardest thing I've ever done. But I'm a completely different person. Person, like a very specific example that's like something small. I'm at the gym and someone recks their weights improperly. It tries me fucking bananas. Drives me crazy. Like, if they take the 25s, put it out in the 35s. Oh my God, drives me crazy. And it's like, this could not be more black and white. Like how to, how is that acceptable? And then that fucks up the flow for everyone else. So, you know, and one day she was like, well, you know, they didn't see that you were wearing your invisible police uniform.

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  14. I'm like, everything's kind of cool. I think I don't even really need to go today. Those are the times when you stumble into some massive paradigm shift. And it literally is a paradigm shift. You see the world in a completely different way. And a lot of the times when that happens, it's funny. I'll just be... Talking out loud, like thinking but verbalizing it, and you sort of get on a path and then you're like, boom, and something happens. And you're just like, holy shit, where did that come from It's almost like an out of body experience. So a lot of it is trying to get outside of yourself, which is extremely difficult. And thinking about, well, is this aspect of my personality? Is this learned from my parents or someone else? Or is this part of me? And a lot of things that I didn't know I was even doing.

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  15. What's the same thing with drumming? I'm like, hey, look, if you're serious about this, we got to do this once a week because it's like going to the gym. You don't go two days a week for four hours. Right. You go once a week or every day. You go every day for an hour or something. As you have consistency, that's crucial. And you're able to make progress because it's a recurring dialogue you're having with someone. So I went once a week for years. And when things got particularly messy, I would sometimes go twice a week. And there were times when she really saved my life. Dealing with PTSD, or you literally feel like you're going to die And now I go once a month. And sort of check in. And what's funny, we were talking about this last night The times when

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  16. And so it started off with the relationship stuff, and then it obviously shoots off in all these other different directions. And even just having someone to go in and dump on and just like brain vomit, who's only there to help you out, help you sort things out, the world would be a completely different place if everyone had that, had a safe out. Yeah, to just unload.

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  17. She's 80. And it's like all these life coaches running around who are like 25. It's like, the fuck do you know? You don't know anything. So having a therapist who where I can bring up anything and she's like, yep. Been there. Right, right. That's huge. Yeah.

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  18. That's a blind spot to me, and I don't know what I'm doing. I need to figure this out. That was the specific reason why I started going. And I found my therapist through a really close friend of mine who is a therapist, and we obviously can't work together because she's a close friend of mine. So she was like, you should see this person. She's incredible. And working with a therapist, having a good relationship with someone where you can really trust them and you care about each other and it clicks. That is unbelievably important. There are so many bad drum teachers out there and there are so many bad therapists out there and it can be extremely damaging to someone. So having a good therapist who you get along with and connect with and who's very competent, that's why I picked someone who was, I mean, we hit it off and it was obvious.

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  19. Your story. So I started seeing a therapist around when I was 30-ish, something like that. And it was mainly to Figure out relationship issues that kept happening over and over and over again. And I was like, there's clearly something here.

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  20. Pretty much. I mean, that's why I go to the gym six days a week because I have to work off all the clarified butter. All right.

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  21. It's funny. I think to be good at anything, you need to have a touch of OCD Absolutely, you have to be detail oriented. And I do have those things, but I can't think of anything off the top of my head other than checking the stove ten times when I'm leaving the house. And like, you know, checking my studio door four times, make sure it's locked. I can't think of anything weirdly. Specific like that at the moment.

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  22. That's his thing. You do your own thing. You walk out on stage in front of whatever 12,000 people, Madison Square Garden, you're doing your own thing. Bring that to this. I sold the kit immediately, got his own thing. He's figuring out what his own thing is. It's. And that's so much fun for me to do. And he's one of the smartest dudes I know. I mean, he's brilliant.

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  23. That's one of my favorite things to do with Burr is we sit down and talk about comedy and drumming and the massive amounts of overlap between the two. When we first started working together, he had basically a John Bonham Led Zeppelin, almost like a replica kit. It's like a huge Bonham fan. And everyone who plays drums is like a John Bonham fan. He's incredible. And he's a very specific sound. So he got this early 70s, Green Sparkle Ludwig kit. Giant 26 inch bass drum, like it's a whole thing, it's a very specific thing And we're working together, and we're talking about identity and what he wants to say and who he wants to be and getting his posture together And I was like, dude, you wouldn't walk out on stage and start yelling like Sam Kennison.

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  24. And that sounds like spooky. That's a real thing That episode was so affirming and exciting for me because he said a lot of things where I was like, oh, I am doing this right. I'm on the right path because there were so many things that we did similarly.

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  25. Think about this Whatever paradigm you want to think about the sin. And then as you get more comfortable with it, get smaller and smaller and smaller. Yeah. And then you're just. Throw someone across the room

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  26. You're slower than you would be even before. It's the same, the weightskin shit, the smaller circles. Yeah. To learn things in large movements or whatever you want to.

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  27. Slow down? Yeah. Yeah, slow down because generally speaking, so many people need to do that. Slow down, take a deep breath. Just relax

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  28. And then what are you going to do with your life when you just wake up? Are you going to play golf all day? That's a whole other thing.

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  29. And then you have a whole other black hole where if you're a very important person and you get a lot of respect and then you retire, you're just some guy And that's a whole other thing to deal with

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  30. Exactly. And that's the problem, but that's part of the instrument. What I was going to say earlier when we were talking about the being able to To do many different, wear many different hats, do many different things, be deliberate about what you're doing. When I was talking to a friend about this, and he was like, Yeah, if your identity is largely based on what you do for a living, whatever it is, what if you wake up one day and you don't want to do that thing? And then you're like, who am I And that's a

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  31. What is that? How it's like basically like throat control, like how you produce air pressure. And that takes a while. You start learning clarinetters, you're squawking all over the place and develop that control. And you can't just sit down and just make a sound. There's a certain amount of gestation with it.

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  32. Or my hip is just over my back because they're doing everything inefficiently or incorrectly. And then also they get stuck as far as the vocabulary goes because they can't express themselves properly because they're in their own way. So, a lot of it is inherently part of the instrument. Itself. And I always use violin as an example. Like, you have to sit there for six months just getting your intonation happening or saxophone, you have to get your ambouchure together.

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  33. So, like, you think of these dudes around, you know, late 1800s, 1900s Taking disparate concert percussion instruments, like a bass drum by itself and a snare drum. And then we had to make a pedal to use the bass drum. And the hi hats were originally called low boys because they were on the floor and you only played them with your foot. So it's evolved in this really bizarre strange way. So it's physically strange. But also the bar is incredibly low in terms of entry. So it's very easy to play drums in the beginning. You sit down and go, And they're like, oh, I can play drums. I can do this. I can play along to ACDC and Michael Jackson. And this is great. And so no one thinks about how anything functions because they can already do it. And then they go on tour, and then 10 years later, they're like, Oh, my arms are destroyed.

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  34. Yeah Well, that's what I was saying earlier, it's inherently an issue of the drum set as an instrument in that the way the drum set was formed initially around the turn of the century was called a trap kit because it was short for contraption.

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  35. I think probably I'm very as long as someone is putting the work in, I'm very patient with people because seeing the light flash in their eyes when something clicks is one of the greatest feelings imaginable. And also, probably for him, I think being patient with himself, like taking the time to really hone in on certain things and not having to rush through things and just being like, I'm going to put the work in and I'm going to take the time so all this stuff happens the way it should happen. And you have to be patient with that or else it's never going to manifest itself.

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  36. Yeah, absolutely. Really, really important. And if you're not being deliberate about what you're creating, then what the hell are you doing? You're just making garbage, right?

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  37. Bits of all time, which I won't spoil. works they don't play it at full volume on YouTube about your job and then get pissed off at me on the internet

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  38. Right. You're a freak show. Nobody wants that. They do not owe a taxi driver. It was a taxi taxi driver, one of the two. Robert Deiro

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  39. Well, same thing for me. Like, if you go on tour a lot, you don't want to go traveling for fun. You're like, I was just out for six weeks. I just want to be home. Yeah. So, like, everyone's like, man, you should take a vacation. And I'm just like, I don't want to go anywhere.

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  40. And they're like, God, you're so lucky you teach. I have to go out with this piece of shit right now. And it's like, and then it comes around to doing what you love for a living, you know, and then they're like, what's the point if If you go out on the road and you're bumming So there's something to be said about the weekend warrior who goes to their suit and tie cubicle job and then they get out of work and they're like, yeah, I'm going to go play drums right now and they're stoked. There's something to be said for that. Because it's still like a holy special thing. And that's something that I struggle with with art. Because I love art so much and it's so important to me and everyone's like, when are you going to start making stuff? And I was like, but if I start making it. Then I'm part of it, and then it's like tainted. In a way

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  41. Yes So, someone calls me for a tour and I heard a lot of bad things about the artist, like they're a pain in the ass. I'll be like, nah, I'm good. I don't have to do it. I have a lot of friends who tour, and that's all they do

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  42. Just, yeah, totally. And I think what's very important is doing a multitude of things. I teach a lot. That's really my bread and butter. But because of that, I can be selective and learn how to say no to things because of that. So if someone calls me for a

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  43. Yeah, when you're auditioning for gigs and you're like really that dude got the gig, are you kidding me? And then you're like, if that's what people want, like, that's garbage. And everyone else is like, oh, gross. You know, like, I can't believe that dude's such a cheese ball. Why would they, you know? And they were like, well, is that what people want? And then it's like, if that's what people want, why am I doing this? Because no one has good taste. Yeah. You can get in that whole thing.

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  44. Well, the industry has changed so much in the past ten or fifteen years just the way it's structured as a business model alone makes you question things. Like is this even a working model anymore? That changes on a daily basis. So just thinking about things monetarily, sometimes even makes sense. Like for me, like Am I going to go out on tour and be away from home and make X amount of money when I can just stay home and sleep in my own bed and make X amount of money teaching? That kind of a thing. And then it's like, well, do I want to teach you? Do I want to play music? And then it's like the grass is always greener. So that stuff's constantly swirling around in my head.

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  45. And it could be like Rogue Olive Garden. I don't know. Man, I don't know if I can answer that without getting in trouble.

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  46. That they revis But Yeah, I think through enough experience and through having enough success outside of that situation. I can definitely see that happening if it's like that's your one shot and that's the only amount of success you've ever had but I've done a lot of other things and I did things after that before and so it's like oh that was just that one thing and it wasn't like oh you fucked it up It was just like you're too distracting.

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  47. And so, you know, that was, they got my buddy Freddie, who was doing it for the week until I got there, Freddie Sheed, who's a really great drummer in the UK. They got him to do it again until George could come back. And Freddie's great, and he's a really good buddy of mine. He did a great job. And I was just, at the time, I was like so bummed.

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  48. And then I sat down with Maddie at a certain singer, and he was like, you know, man, we have to do Glastonbury and some BBC One stuff. And it's really important that this band sounds like the 1975. And right now it sounds like the 1975 with Dave Ealich. Your personality is just huge The time I was like, fuck. I was so bummed because I really like Maddie. I really like George, all those guys, and I really like the music a lot. And I was just like, fuck, man. And then I was like, wait, this is like the best compliment anyone could ever give me. Because having an identity is the most important thing when you're making art. And I was like, you know what? That's fucking awesome.

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  49. Yeah, so line check is like kick, kick, kick drum, snare drum, guitar, you know, like checking everything's working, right? And then he was Maddie, the singer, like, Can we do this song? Let's do this song. And we just did like a couple songs. And he was like, okay, great. And then it's just showtime. Yeah. And so everyone was like, because that's the type of situation where it's a band. And you have to come in and the very difficult thing is you have to assume someone else's character. And try to make everyone feel comfortable enough to where it's comfortable. Yeah. Right. So. They were like, you know, how do you play the parts? But you can have some fun. And so I threw in things here and there, and they were like laughing and into it. And it was super fun. And so we did that run for about a month.

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  50. Yeah, long legs, long arms, long everything. So I had to rearrange his kit. A lot of times you have to sit down and just play it, which can present some problems. But I had to rearrange things because it was like impossible. And so yeah, outdoor stage in Toronto, 10,000 people, and you just have to go for it.

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