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  1. Yeah, and you could say the same thing about there's something called beat detective, which is something that drummers the world over hate. So it's the same sort of a thing for drummers. So you can track something, record something in a studio, and then they will artificially adjust everything to a grid. And if someone's lazy about it, they just snap it to the grid and it just gets very stiff and computer-like because that's what it's been turned into.

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  2. Yes, so the new thing with that share song was they used Different key signature to auto tune it. So it way overcorrected itself. And that's what got that weird now T pain sort of sound. And Drake and now, so like As something that was an experiment, now currently changed the way music is, the software itself has now changed the art form and to the point where I'll have producer friends of mine tracking someone doing vocals in their 20s. And they're like, hey, why does my voice sound weird? And they're like, that's what your voice sounds like. That's actually what it sounds like. Uncorrected. They expect it to sound like auto-tuned. So the technology has now affected the art change.

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  3. Yeah, yeah. He loved puns and he was kind of a quirky, weird dude. So the whole idea of that phrase is that the medium with which information is submitted to you is more important than the actual information itself. So an example I like to use is Something like auto tune. So for people who don't know what auto-tune is, if you think of that share song like, do you believe and laugh after love? Like whatever that was like 20 years ago. And so auto-tune is a software that people use to correct someone's voting.

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  4. I know. Well, because they screwed up when they were printing it originally and he thought it was hilarious. And he's like, just leave it. It's fine. So it was supposed to be the medium as the message, but it's actually the medium as the massage. And he's like, that's great.

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  5. Yeah, and the interesting thing about him is he would spout off all sorts of inflammatory, crazy things, and people would get furious about certain things or pick things apart and he would contradict himself all the time and make these grand statements. That maybe would have been something that would have bothered me years ago, but now as long as there are gems throughout and he hits the nail on the head in certain areas and I can take away things that shift my perspective as a whole, that's all that matters to me. So the medium is the message. This is actually the medium is the massage because they screwed up when they were placed.

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  6. So Marshall McLuhan was a really interesting and very popular social and media theorist in the 50s and 60s. So I find it really fascinating that he's not a household name now, being that media is such a massive part of everyone's life now, especially people who do their own thing. Like we have to have Instagram and Twitter and all that stuff. You don't have a choice, right? I just find societal issues and media and how we process and consume media very interesting. And this dude was so ahead of everyone by decades. It's almost creepy.

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  7. Hit the nail on the head, man. And that is exactly, that's the kind of stuff that I find so exciting is are those carryovers. When you hit a home run, when you smash a baseball, it doesn't feel like you did anything. Like nothing, how did I, that doesn't feel, whereas if you hit it like wonky, you're like, you know what I mean? Like, it feels terrible. And it's the same thing with drums. When you hit them right, the energy should be going out. Not back in. And it's the same with anything else, any athletic movement.

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  8. And what's amazing about this is we're playing an electronic kit. We're not playing an acoustic kit. So even though you're hearing sounds, Theoretically, it shouldn't really sound any different because it's not real. You know what I mean? But that's what's even cooler about this being on electronic kit is like once we got you relaxing and getting those, you know, those techniques happening and trimming the fat, your vibe and your feel was like totally different.

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  9. Exactly. The bullets flying by. It's exactly the same thing. And that's what got me hooked that. Yeah, that matrix thing. And you can use that in any discipline.

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  10. That space, and we were talking about this last night. Everyone that talks about being in the zone or being on fire, that kind of thing is a state that you can willingly inhabit. It's not really a thing. And when I'm having these out of body experiences when I'm playing music, which is what gets you to do it in the first place, sort of time slows down and unfolds in front of you and you see what you're going to play.

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  11. For instance, if you're really getting in your head, we'll stick with the tennis analogy in a match and you need a device to overcome that self-won. Because like I was saying earlier, if you think about physiologically what you're doing in terms of movement, you use a different structure in your brain and you'll botch it. So if you're serving a tennis ball, you throw the ball up and you go, I throw the ball up, then I move my, you're fucked. You're going to hit the net every time. So, in order to not do that, he'll say, focus on the laces of the ball. As it's coming at you, or focus on the WAP of the sound when you get like a good hit and just focus on those things in and of themselves and that will take you into that.

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  12. A lot of times. And the brilliant thing with this book is it's very easy to understand anyone can pick it up and learn. You just replace tennis with any other thing, any other discipline. The brilliant thing with this book is it takes you somewhere and then he's like, yeah, so, you know, this is a plateau you have to overcome. And this is how you do it. And that happens multiple times.

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  13. Hey, I'm just trying to make this happen here. And the whole idea is calming down the critical analytical self. One, your self-talk, right? And letting self-two, the automatic subconscious take over. And if you let that happen, everything will just happen automatically. So what's interesting is what I do with so many people is very technique-oriented. And this book can be described as like an anti-technique because it's sort of the opposite way of coming about it. But what's interesting about this is with the Zen stuff, they will lead you down a path and then just leave you there

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  14. Yeah, so So, the book talks about essentially these two selves that we have, self one and self two. So self-one is the analytical, cruel self-talk, harsh critic who you hit the ball in the net if we're going to stick with the tennis analogy and self-one's like, ah, you fucking piece of shit. Like, come on, get it together. And self two is your subconscious automatic self that's just.

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  15. Sure. So, this is a book called The Inner Game of Tennis by Timothy Galway. It came out in 1974. Sort of one of those books where people are like, oh yeah, that book, it had a huge effect. And there's all sorts of spin-offs like the intergovernmental music actually is a book. And the amazing thing with this book is I've read, both of us have read a lot about Zen Buddhism. And the thing about Zen Buddhism is by the very nature of what it is, it's very difficult to pin down and point at directly and define because it's so different. And this is the first thing I ever read where he nails it down in the context of tennis. It's easier to do that way.

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  16. That's why I was so excited about doing this with you because I knew there were going to be tons of carryover from different disciplines. And that's what I really love. And so you telling me, oh, yeah, if you relax your tongue, you'll relax your whole face and your jaw. I was like, of course. That's huge. And that's the way I'm going to present it to people from now on because that's a better way to teach it.

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  17. So I had to literally learn how to take a full breath because I didn't, you know, from just getting kicked in the balls over and over again in daily life, your breathing gets shallow. So that was massive for me. So as far as the rituals, that's huge. Even if I don't have time to sit down and fully do the meditation, I'll try and get into that headspace because if you start your day with that, you can very easily go back and access that mindset later on. It's much easier for me to go, okay, feeling stressed. Okay, there's the full breath. Whereas, like, if I didn't start off my day doing that, I might not physically be able to access that full breath.

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  18. Yeah, my breathing was because I was driving to the studio and I was recording this record with this band anti-mask I did with Omar and Cedric from the Mars Volta after the Mars Volta and Flea was playing bass on it from the chili peppers and I had just finished doing the killer be killed record which was a metal band I was in and then and I had to learn the Miley set after being in the studio all day with Anti-Mask. So I was driving to the studio and I was white knuckling the steering wheel and I was holding my breath and I realized oh my God like am I doing this all the time? Is this my normal? Yeah, this is crazy. And then I started paying attention to it and I realized I was holding my breath all the time. And when I started doing that short guided meditation, I realized oh my God, I don't know how to breathe anymore.

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  19. But yeah, as long as you put the time in, and when I'm working with someone, I make sure they put the time in. And usually it's a lot of guys who have been in bands for a long time. They have an ample amount of a month of rehearsals. So it's not really about, do I know this material? It's maybe some other issue. But I tell everyone. Do the Sam Harris guide to meditation, especially people who don't or aren't familiar with that? Because when I first started doing it, I literally had to relearn how to breathe.

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  20. My advice is what I try to live by in that if you put the time in and you know the material, there's nothing to be nervous about because you know what you're doing. And as soon as you get on stage, After about five minutes, and the adrenaline wears off, you should be comfortable because you're like, I've put in so much, I couldn't have put more time in. Like I put the time in. I know what I'm doing. This is fine. What's really scary is when you don't have the time to put the work in, then that's freaky, which I try to never put myself in those situations.

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  21. Bongle, whatever I'm doing, but skipping rope gets my head in that mindset. And it also gets me warmed up. So yeah, it's just a lot of pacing. I don't drink coffee or red bowls or anything because I know my heart rate's already going to be insane. So I try to actually not do that. And yeah, do you...

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  22. In the zone because skipping rope Is the same The same exact thing as playing a musical instrument in terms of focus. It's like a detached focus. If you think about what you're doing, you use a different part of your brain and neurologically and you'll screw up whatever you're doing. If it's a highly learned embedded task, right? So if you're skipping rope and you think about What you're doing, you'll hit your feet and screw it all up. If I'm playing a show, I have to either be totally zenned out, not thinking about anything at all, or I have to be like thinking about what I'm eating after the show or like doing laundry or whatever. I can't think, oh, here comes this part or like right, right, left, left, just I'll immediately.

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  23. If I'm feeling really anxious, I'll do it right before. One of the things that took me years of touring to figure out is a lot of people will, you know, drumming is an incredibly physical instrument, especially with how hard I can hit at times. And you have to really treat yourself like an athlete. And a lot of people will just sit there and quote unquote warm up like on a rubber pad and kind of gingerly hit it around for 10 or 15 minutes. And then they go on on stage and their feet are cold. So I started bringing a jump rope on tour with me. And I was just like, oh my God, how did I not figure this out earlier? And so I skipped rope for maybe 10 or 15 minutes and that gets the blood flowing. So when I walk out on stage, I feel like I'm three songs in already, which is a game changer physiologically. So I'll do that kind of gets your head.

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  24. Yeah, but the hour before the show, I've done like the Sam Harris Guided Meditation. I've just been, I just go to an area by myself and sit down and breathe and just try and stay as relaxed as possible.

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  25. It's extremely stressful, and a lot of these situations, it's funny, I was thinking about how to sort of present this to the layman. And it's like your first day on the job. It's some really, you got like a giant promotion or like you're at a new company, different, different title, different role, and you roll in and you meet everyone, you pick five random people out of the office, and you say great, you guys are going to go on stage in front of 30,000 people together. You just met, or you're going to spend the next month in a bus together, waking up next to each other. It's a very weird situation. And who knows how that's going to work out as far as personalities and everything.

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  26. Mercenary. Yeah, it's extremely stressful. You're waking up in the middle of the night going, ha, how does that bridge go? Like, you know, like freaking out because you have the weight of the world on your shoulders

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  27. Yeah. And I was like, and the bass pair is like, it's cool, man. You got it. It's all good. You don't need those. And I didn't.

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  28. Not normal. Not normal. So why did you do that? So I put it on my left so I could put my notes. On the left, and no one, I thought, didn't think anyone would see him. And I go to the bathroom after the first set and I come back, it's all gone.

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  29. When you hear Perfect. I couldn't have done that better myself. Yes, so you have a rack tom up top straight in front of you, which is going to be the higher pit. It's like, do, do, do, do, and then you go down further, and you get bigger drums which are sitting on the floor, floor toms, right? Yeah.

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  30. Tomatoes or beer or beer bottles. Like at that moment, you have to know everything so well that that's not going to phase you. So it takes a long time. And I'm in there for 10 or 12 hours at the beginning. But that type of preparation is huge. And what's funny is when I went to Amsterdam to rehearse the set with them, I set up an extra floor tom on my left side, which you normally wouldn't do that. They're on your right side. Are you going to

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  31. Yeah. So I'm hearing nothing, and I have to know it so well that I can get through the whole song in my head hearing everything. And that's an insane amount of work. But the deal is, is when you get on stage and there's 30,000 people screaming and like with Miley, like people throwing bras and underwear at me.

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  32. And just play with the notes. And then the next step is music no notes. And then the final step is just to click track, nothing else. So just a metronomy.

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  33. And it would just come out. It's in your bones. And I prepare in that regard like an insane amount, like a ridiculous amount. So I'll play the song I don't know, like five or ten times with my notes. And then I'm starting like, okay, I think I got it now. Then I'll put my notes away and just play, no, sorry, then I'll play with just the notes, no music, and then I'll play as you play.

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  34. It feels like you've given a lot of talks, right? You rehearse it enough and you're like, yeah, I don't need these notes. You know what in your core. It's like when you memorize your timestables or whatever. It's that same type of thing. You don't have to gear up to get it going.

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  35. I will just go through one song over and over and over and over and over again until I know it really well. And this is huge. Practicing not in regards to time, but in regards to goals. So the amount of people who go to music school and they go, yeah, I practice eight hours a day. Like, you know, it's not about how much time. It's about what you're getting done and having specific goals and writing that down and go, I need to get this from here to here once I get that done. I'm done. Check moving on. A lot of people go, I need to work on this thing for an hour. That doesn't mean anything. It's not a tangible goal. An hour for you and an hour for me are completely different. One person could get it in 20 minutes, another person takes two hours. And it's unbelievable how everyone structures things in terms of time.

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  36. Totally, that's a very real thing. And that's a real thing also when people are doing method book work, like out of a drum book, let's say. Like I might have them learn the entire page. This happens all the time. And I'm like, cool, let me hear you start from the end. And they're like, so that actually is a very important point, and that comes later in the process, at the end of the process.

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  37. No, no, no. I mean, like within the set list itself. So someone would play the first song and then the second song and then the third song all in a row. And then they can't remember anything because they're working on all the songs at the same time.

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  38. Because you're switching songs all the time. So, what I would do is I would take the first song in the set list and I would have my notes and the music and I would play through it. As many times as it took for me to be like, I know this really well, but the same thing on repeat. Most people would just go, I'm just going to go through the set. And then it's not.

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  39. I would go through, it's all about how you approach this stuff, right? So a lot of people would go, I'm going to play through the set list just bang, bang, bang, down, down the line. But you're constantly distracted. You're constantly switching the targets moving so you can't get deep. So what I would do.

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  40. So, this is something that I do with a lot of people that I work with Just showing them how to properly chart out a song because so many people write out way too much nonsense and then it's way too much to navigate. And learning music at the last minute and having to play it is, you know, that does happen quite a bit, whether it's like a coffee house or a huge shore or whatever. Most people will write out everything and then they go to look at it and they have no idea what they can't read their handwriting. And so meaning like what I do with people is it's just the roadmap you're not writing out notation. You're not writing out. It's just like intro eight bars first sixteen bars chorus sixteen it's just that that's it like and I might say where my right hand is ride symbol crash high hat but it's very minimalistic and so I made those charts for all the songs and I would

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  41. Because I'm going ape shit. Fuck you. Standing up, kicking stuff over, you know, like just going nuts. I think it's really important to put on a show so people are like, holy shit. This is insane, you know, and so yeah, I'm standing up and hitting super hard. And it's visually entertaining. But the most important part of that is the playing has to be happening. If you go nuts and then you screw something up, there's no point. So, the playing has to be on point, and then I'm going to stand up and kick something over.

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  42. Catch it. Yeah, yeah, yeah. And, you know, there's a long drum solo every night. So you have to really be on point. So I would set up a camera behind me every night to just be like, I need to know what this actually sounds like. Because in the heat of the moment, you could think you're killing it and then you watch a video and you're like, whoops, or the opposite's also true always. I could be like, I really, really, you know, that didn't sound good at all. And then I watch the video. I'm like, oh, that was actually okay. So that level of cognitive disconnect is in that scenario is huge. So I would go back to my hotel room after the show and watch the video and, you know, take mental notes about things that worked and things that didn't work. And for me, it's always been very important to put on a visual show. There's nothing worse than going to see a show and just watching someone looks like they're doing their taxes.

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  43. Yes, exactly. And so I flew to Europe, met the band, we ran through the two and a half hour set twice, and then we're on tour. And this is like, for people who aren't familiar with the band, it's extremely complex music. Lots of like Omar the guitar player, lots of hand signals and eyebrows and cues.

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  44. So the Mars Volta was the first big situation that I was in like that. I got that gig when I was twenty-five. They called hundreds of people to do it. People are sending a video auditions and all kinds of stuff. And When they asked me to do it, I. I said, yeah, sure. You know, in your hits, one of them, I'm sure you've had this experience before. They're like, great, this sounds great. Do you want to do it? And in my head, I'm like, no, no, no, no, no. And then I was just like, yes, yes just comes out of your mouth. And I feel like every important life decision I've ever made that happens. And it's super important to just do it no matter how gross.

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  45. Yeah, exactly. And so, you know, with the Mars Volta, with Miley Cyrus, with 1975, with M83, you walk into a room, you go, nice to meet you guys. And you might run through the set once, and then you're playing in front of 15, 20, 30,000 people. And it's a very unique situation to be in. The amount of pressure is unbelievable. Because as a drummer, if you drop the ball, the whole show collapses in on top of you. It's not like, you know, guitar where you can just like, whoops, flub that, and then you can just kind of keep playing. Do it twice and play in Jack.

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  46. So, the video is me playing with the Mars Volta Big Day Out Festival in Sydney, Australia in two thousand ten, early 2010. And I would videotape all of the shows that we played. I'd set up a little camera behind me because When you're in the heat of battle, you know, as you could say, you have no idea how it's actually coming across. So if I backtrack a little bit With this situation, and a lot of situations that I get called for, I've sort of developed this reputation as a bit of a mercenary in that when someone breaks their arm or someone gets fired or someone needs someone to do a tour like last minute. No rehearsals, little rehearsal, whatever. They call me and I have to learn everything last minute. And it's funny.

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  47. Eight blood tests. Yeah, yeah, absolutely. And people love it, and they get whatever they want out of it. And it can mean all sorts of different things, you know?

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  48. If you don't approach it slowly, your brain has no idea what your body's doing. So all these people try and rush through something and they physiologically have no idea what's going on and also do it again because the sheer amount of repetition you have to do to really plug in that muscle memory. And it's fun. I made it just kind of as a joke kind of, you know. And then people would come up to me on the street and be like, oh, I'd love that shirt because people get whatever sort of meaning they want.

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  49. Absolutely. So I'm wearing one of my t shirts that I make in are available on my website that say slow down on the front and do it again on the back. And it came from me having to say that over and over and over again to people as I was teaching them. So I just got tired of yelling at people and saying the same shit over and over again. So I just point at my shirt now and I just go come on, slow it down because so many people It's not about what you're trying to learn as much as it is about how you approach learning it, which is obviously a universal concept. And so many people try to just rush through things so quickly. And especially when you're doing something that's so physically and mentally demanding as drumming,

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